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protectionist
01-26-2015, 01:09 AM
Non-Muslim ‘no-entry’ zones have been multiplying all over Europe and even popping up in numerous cities here in the U.S. This should heighten every American’s awareness concern antennae immensely. Once established they are unsafe for non-Muslims to inhabit, or even to walk through the neighborhood.

It starts off innocently and ambiguous to the untrained eye. They want to share a neighborhood with like-minded, religious thinking community dwellers. They grow larger and incorporate more Muslims into the area buying up property as fast as it becomes available or leasing it. Then they install their own courts, government, justice and punishment system, Sharia law. At that point threats are aimed at anyone living in the neighborhood that is non-Muslim. These areas have been formed with ‘ethnic cleansing’ harassment tactics; forcing existing residents out of their homes by Muslim provocation and fear of property damage and physical harm.

They declare it by hanging signs that say: “You are entering a Sharia controlled zone, Islamic rules enforced.” Do not enter unless you are willing to submit to Islamic Sharia law, government orders! Only this is strict Muslim ideology rules, not the rules of the host country or state they are residing in. They are now self-governing in a “voluntary apartheid” by shutting themselves into closed societies and then demanding immunity from our criticism and our courts.

Even worse than all this is the terrorist training going on in these jihadist camps. After thousands of US troops gave up their lives in Afghanistan to stop al Qaeda from holding training camps like thisw, we should now allow this right here in our own backyard ? This is madness.
There is no question that terror training camps (AKA "enclaves) exist across the U.S. according to a documentary, “Homegrown Jihad: The Terrorist Camps Around the U.S.” There are about 36 Islamic terrorist training compounds around the U.S. operating under the name, Muslims of the Americas. The documentary states: “Under the leadership of a radical Pakistani cleric, Sheik Mubarak Gilani, Muslims of the Americas has thousands of devoted followers who are being groomed for homegrown Jihad.”

Training includes instructions in “explosives, kidnapping, murder, firing weapons and guerrilla warfare”. The recruitment video shows American converts to Islam being instructed in the operation of AK-47 rifles, rocket launchers, machine guns and C4 explosives. It provided instruction in how to kidnap Americans, kill them and conduct sabotage and subversive operations.

State Police and Army National Guard units should go into these enclaves, confiscate weapons, arrest those committing crime, and bust up the enclaves. Forget Obama. People need to start acting, while ignoring Obama (like John Boehner did by inviting Netanyahu here). If Obama can ignore Congress as he and his Muslim ass-kissing DOJ does, so can the states and the people. Two can play this game.

Homegrown No-Go Zones - None Dare Call It Jihad Terrorist Training Camps PatriotUpdate.com patriotupdate patriotupdate (http://patriotupdate.com/articles/homegrown-go-zones-none-dare-call-itjihad-terrorist-training-camps/)

No go zones The Counter Jihad Report (http://counterjihadreport.com/tag/no-go-zones/)

Muslim Enclaves U.S.A. FrontPage Magazine - Part 2 (http://www.frontpagemag.com/2010/ryan-mauro/munslim-enclaves-u-s-a/2/)

Did You Know There Are Muslim 8216 No-Go 8217 Zones In The USA Truth Uncensored (http://truthuncensored.net/there-are-muslim-no-go-zones-in-the-usa/)

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 02:48 AM
Okay, so I read your entire OP and I clicked on all your links to inspect your sources, but all I found were four blogs with very scant evidence that there exists Islamic "no-go" zones in America. The example of an alleged "no-go" zone given by your first and fourth sources is Dearborn, Michigan, but there are more white people in Dearborn than there are Arab Muslims, so I'm not sure how the latter group managed to turn the city into a Sharia enclave right under all those white people's noses. What is so horrible that these Muslims are doing in Dearborn, according to your sources? Private religious schools. Exercising second amendment rights. Electing individuals from their community to local government offices. Building things on their private property.

In the U.S., Dearborn, Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into their first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law). The new idea of ‘no-go’ and ‘no-entry’ is significant, and shockingly being upheld. They provide weapons and guards and government officials in their own societies. They build what they want on their compounds. They have schools inside that their kids are educated in. They are taught their religion in school. No separation of Church (mosque) and State.

In other words, stuff that white Christians do all the time, but suddenly becomes very scary and ominous when Muslims do it. Next you're going to scare everyone with a fact like: They write their own contracts! Or: They have their own political agenda!

Scary stuff man!

Howey
01-26-2015, 03:36 AM
There are no no-go zones in the US. What there is, however, are lots of scared Islamophobes.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 03:55 AM
Okay, so I read your entire OP and I clicked on all your links to inspect your sources, but all I found were four blogs with very scant evidence that there exists Islamic "no-go" zones in America. The example of an alleged "no-go" zone given by your first and fourth sources is Dearborn, Michigan, but there are more white people in Dearborn than there are Arab Muslims, so I'm not sure how the latter group managed to turn the city into a Sharia enclave right under all those white people's noses. What is so horrible that these Muslims are doing in Dearborn, according to your sources? Private religious schools. Exercising second amendment rights. Electing individuals from their community to local government offices. Building things on their private property.

In the U.S., Dearborn, Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into their first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law). The new idea of ‘no-go’ and ‘no-entry’ is significant, and shockingly being upheld. They provide weapons and guards and government officials in their own societies. They build what they want on their compounds. They have schools inside that their kids are educated in. They are taught their religion in school. No separation of Church (mosque) and State.

In other words, stuff that white Christians do all the time, but suddenly becomes very scary and ominous when Muslims do it. Next you're going to scare everyone with a fact like: They write their own contracts! Or: They have their own political agenda!

Scary stuff man!

Absolutely, it is scary.

I would guess that a liberal wouldn't have a clue about anything pertaining to Islamization. Not when all your media sources exclude the subject entirely, so how would you know anything ? Here's a little education for you. After you finish that, let me know if you'd care to take my Islamization Quiz. It's excellent for teaching liberals how much they don't know about Islamization (of which the US no go zones are just one example)

There are at last count about 36 (for years) WELL-DOCUMENTED no go zones in America. They are all over the US. The Department of Homeland Security says (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/31/politics/31threat.html) that Muslims of the Americas is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra (http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/terroristoutfits/jamaat-ul-fuqra.htm), a Pakistani terrorist group. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorism report (http://terrorisminfo.mipt.org/pdf/1998pogt.pdf) in 1998 described ul-Fuqra as an “Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.” Other fronts for the group include the International Quranic Open University (http://www.iqou-moa.org/), the United Muslim-Christian Forum (http://www.umcforum.org/), the Islamic Post (http://www.islamicpostonline.com/) newspaper, the Muslim Scouts of America (http://www.iqou-moa.org/muslim_scouts/index.htm), the Hands to Hands (http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/1613) charity, Muslim Vets (http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/militant-muslims-of-america-pulling-out-all-stops-for-ny-parade/), the American Muslim Medical and Relief Team (http://www.iqou-moa.org/relief/amirt.htm), and the Islamic Naat Group (http://www.al-adaab.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=64:islamic-naat-group-productions&Itemid=63). A few examples of these no go zones are >>

1. Dearborn Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into our first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law).

2. Islamberg, Hancock, NY - Islamberg is the 70-acre headquarters of Muslims of the Americas (http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/muslims-americas-moa), the International Quranic Open University (http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/international-quranic-open-university) and the United Muslim Christian Forum (http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/united-muslim-christian-forum). These organizations are led by a radical cleric in Pakistan named Sheikh (http://www.clarionproject.org/glossary/sheikh/) Mubarak Ali Gilani.
Islamberg originally had a connection to the Muslim Brotherhood

3. Gwynn Oak, Baltimore, Maryland, consisting of Muslim immigrants and African-American converts. The project is led by John Yahya Cason, director of the Islamic Education and Community Development Initiative. Cason explained that the neighborhood is a response to the problem that “Muslim communities are ruled by Western societal tenets, many of which clash with Islamic norms.” In his opinion, there is a need for communities with “the totality of the essential components of Muslim social, economic, and political structure.” As such, the Gwynn Oak enclave follows specific moral rules based on Islam and people there speak Arabic. On September 13, 2009, the construction of its three-story mosque began (http://www.muslimlinkpaper.com/index.php/community-news/community-news/1915-welcome-to-the-neighborhood-gwynn-oak-muslims-break-ground-for-historic-masjid.html). Approximately 400 Muslims now live in the vicinity.

4. Islamic Center for Human Excellence, Little Rock, Arkansas - receives funding from the United Arab Emirates. In August 2004, it was granted permission (http://www.meforum.org/920/the-islamist-challenge-to-the-us-constitution) to build a Muslim neighborhood in Little Rock, Arkansas, complete with a mosque, school, and 22 homes; it would not allow the presence of alcohol. The goal was for Muslims to find an area to escape the alleged crime and depravity of American life, although the imam behind the effort said that non-Muslims are welcome to join. (if they become Muslims)

5. Holy Islamville, York County, SC - A 2004 report funded by the Justice Department identifies York County, S.C. as a “training compound” for Muslims of the Americas.[3] (http://www.usmessageboard.com/file://server/profiles/msvirsky/Documents/Ryan%20Mauro/Islamville.docx) A 2006 report for law enforcement on the organization also said that York County, S.C. is home to one of at least seven “covert paramilitary training compounds.”[4] (http://www.usmessageboard.com/file://server/profiles/msvirsky/Documents/Ryan%20Mauro/Islamville.docx) In 2010, nearby residents told a local newspaper that they had seen armed guards patrolling Islamville and that they sometimes heard gunfire at night.[5] (http://www.usmessageboard.com/file://server/profiles/msvirsky/Documents/Ryan%20Mauro/Islamville.docx) The sound of gunfire coming from Islamville was recorded in November 2009, March 2011 and May 2011. A local resident reported the sounds of explosions on January 26, 2012 and April 6, 2012.[6] (http://www.usmessageboard.com/file://server/profiles/msvirsky/Documents/Ryan%20Mauro/Islamville.docx)

6. Aliville, Odum, GA - a commune with a street named “Mecca Circle” that is believed to be run by Muslims of the Americas (http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/muslims-americas-moa).

Others exist in >>

7.Red House, VA,

8.Hyattsville, MD, Falls Church, VA,

9. Macon, GA,

10. Dover, TN,

11. Buena Vista, CO,

12. Talihina, OK

13. Tulare Country, CA

14. Commerce. CA

15. Onalaska, WA

16. Sherman, PA Just to name a few

PS - I don't believe you read the links (and their links)

protectionist
01-26-2015, 04:02 AM
There are no no-go zones in the US. What there is, however, are lots of scared Islamophobes.

So you rebuff the US govt's reports ? On what basis ?

Green Arrow
01-26-2015, 04:16 AM
No such thing as a "no-go" zone in America. If you're too chicken shit to go there, that's your problem.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 07:55 AM
In other words, stuff that white Christians do all the time,

but suddenly becomes very scary and ominous when Muslims do it. Next you're going to scare everyone with a fact like: They write their own contracts! Or: They have their own political agenda!



White Christians are not waging jihad all over the world.

Muslims are.

Mr. Right
01-26-2015, 08:20 AM
I'd like to know how many White Christians and Black Christians are in high governmental positions in Islamic nations.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 08:22 AM
I'd like to know how many Muslims are in high governmental positions in Islamic nations.

Im more worried about Muslims in high positions here in America.

Muslims are the new communists.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 08:29 AM
White Christians are not waging jihad all over the world.

Muslims are.

You sure about that?

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 08:32 AM
You sure about that?

I'm sure.

Crepitus
01-26-2015, 08:41 AM
Didn't some guy from Faux news recently get laughed off the air for saying similar stuff about Europe?

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 08:46 AM
Didn't some guy from Faux news recently get laughed off the air for saying similar stuff about Europe?

The euros deny it but there do seem to be parts of Europe where the authorities have little control.

maineman
01-26-2015, 08:56 AM
muslims chose to live together and worship together and school their children together.... I don't see a problem with that. If you don't want to go to that neighborhood, don't go. No one is telling you that you CAN'T go there. If there is a "no-go" nature to any neighborhood, it is self imposed by the people who do not wish to go there. The folks living IN those areas are not keeping anyone from going there.

maineman
01-26-2015, 08:57 AM
The euros deny it but there do seem to be parts of Europe where the authorities have little control.


according to Faux News, anyhow.

PolWatch
01-26-2015, 09:01 AM
according to Faux News, anyhow.

The network & the reporter who made the no-go statement have all apologized and issued a retraction. Funny how it doesn't seem to have attracted the attention or belief that the original report did.

Mr. Right
01-26-2015, 09:03 AM
muslims chose to live together and worship together and school their children together.... I don't see a problem with that. If you don't want to go to that neighborhood, don't go. No one is telling you that you CAN'T go there. If there is a "no-go" nature to any neighborhood, it is self imposed by the people who do not wish to go there. The folks living IN those areas are not keeping anyone from going there.

I got an idea, MM, grab a Budweiser, pop the top, and take a stroll past a mosque in Dearborn.. ya ready?

del
01-26-2015, 09:05 AM
I got an idea, MM, grab a Budweiser, pop the top, and take a stroll past a mosque in Dearborn.. ya ready?

what do you think will happen?

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 09:20 AM
according to Faux News, anyhow.

I guess it depends on how much control muslims must have to qualify as a Muslim no-go zone.

Claiming that an entire city like Birmingham England has converted to islam may not be strictly accurate.

But according to Rueters Birmingham has Avery large islamo population so certainly there can be entire neighborhoods where no on Muslim is welcome.

maineman
01-26-2015, 09:36 AM
I guess it depends on how much control muslims must have to qualify as a Muslim no-go zone.

Claiming that an entire city like Birmingham England has converted to islam may not be strictly accurate.

But according to Rueters Birmingham has Avery large islamo population so certainly there can be entire neighborhoods where no on Muslim is welcome.

have you ever been IN a muslim neighborhood in Europe?

PolWatch
01-26-2015, 09:36 AM
If they had more money they could build fences & hire guards to keep others out of their neighborhoods...like some areas in this country.

maineman
01-26-2015, 09:37 AM
I got an idea, MM, grab a Budweiser, pop the top, and take a stroll past a mosque in Dearborn.. ya ready?

in a heartbeat. I have lived in muslim countries and have never felt intimidated or pressured into changing my lifestyle in any way. What's YOUR experience with muslims, beyond hearing Rush and Sean rant about them?

domer76
01-26-2015, 09:49 AM
Non-Muslim ‘no-entry’ zones have been multiplying all over Europe and even popping up in numerous cities here in the U.S. This should heighten every American’s awareness concern antennae immensely. Once established they are unsafe for non-Muslims to inhabit, or even to walk through the neighborhood.

It starts off innocently and ambiguous to the untrained eye. They want to share a neighborhood with like-minded, religious thinking community dwellers. They grow larger and incorporate more Muslims into the area buying up property as fast as it becomes available or leasing it. Then they install their own courts, government, justice and punishment system, Sharia law. At that point threats are aimed at anyone living in the neighborhood that is non-Muslim. These areas have been formed with ‘ethnic cleansing’ harassment tactics; forcing existing residents out of their homes by Muslim provocation and fear of property damage and physical harm.

They declare it by hanging signs that say: “You are entering a Sharia controlled zone, Islamic rules enforced.” Do not enter unless you are willing to submit to Islamic Sharia law, government orders! Only this is strict Muslim ideology rules, not the rules of the host country or state they are residing in. They are now self-governing in a “voluntary apartheid” by shutting themselves into closed societies and then demanding immunity from our criticism and our courts.

Even worse than all this is the terrorist training going on in these jihadist camps. After thousands of US troops gave up their lives in Afghanistan to stop al Qaeda from holding training camps like thisw, we should now allow this right here in our own backyard ? This is madness.
There is no question that terror training camps (AKA "enclaves) exist across the U.S. according to a documentary, “Homegrown Jihad: The Terrorist Camps Around the U.S.” There are about 36 Islamic terrorist training compounds around the U.S. operating under the name, Muslims of the Americas. The documentary states: “Under the leadership of a radical Pakistani cleric, Sheik Mubarak Gilani, Muslims of the Americas has thousands of devoted followers who are being groomed for homegrown Jihad.”

Training includes instructions in “explosives, kidnapping, murder, firing weapons and guerrilla warfare”. The recruitment video shows American converts to Islam being instructed in the operation of AK-47 rifles, rocket launchers, machine guns and C4 explosives. It provided instruction in how to kidnap Americans, kill them and conduct sabotage and subversive operations.

State Police and Army National Guard units should go into these enclaves, confiscate weapons, arrest those committing crime, and bust up the enclaves. Forget Obama. People need to start acting, while ignoring Obama (like John Boehner did by inviting Netanyahu here). If Obama can ignore Congress as he and his Muslim ass-kissing DOJ does, so can the states and the people. Two can play this game.

Homegrown No-Go Zones - None Dare Call It Jihad Terrorist Training Camps PatriotUpdate.com patriotupdate patriotupdate (http://patriotupdate.com/articles/homegrown-go-zones-none-dare-call-itjihad-terrorist-training-camps/)

No go zones The Counter Jihad Report (http://counterjihadreport.com/tag/no-go-zones/)

Muslim Enclaves U.S.A. FrontPage Magazine - Part 2 (http://www.frontpagemag.com/2010/ryan-mauro/munslim-enclaves-u-s-a/2/)

Did You Know There Are Muslim 8216 No-Go 8217 Zones In The USA Truth Uncensored (http://truthuncensored.net/there-are-muslim-no-go-zones-in-the-usa/)

I think there was a Muslim no-go zone in the vicinity, not at, Ground Zero. There was also an attempt to make a place in Murfreesboro, TN a Muslim no-go zone. The courts had to step in on that one.

I suspect there are many more instances that we can find in reliable sources versus the extremist sites you provide. Man, you really do read paranoid shit! Get out of the bunker, dude!

Common Sense
01-26-2015, 10:17 AM
Every time I log back into this site, I'm reminded that idiocy is alive and well in the world. Thanks Protectionist.

Howey
01-26-2015, 10:59 AM
So you rebuff the US govt's reports ? On what basis ?
What government reports? All you post (over and over) is silly conspiracy theories.

Howey
01-26-2015, 10:59 AM
I think there was a Muslim no-go zone in the vicinity, not at, Ground Zero. There was also an attempt to make a place in Murfreesboro, TN a Muslim no-go zone. The courts had to step in on that one.

I suspect there are many more instances that we can find in reliable sources versus the extremist sites you provide. Man, you really do read paranoid $#@!! Get out of the bunker, dude!

That was a mosque.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 11:02 AM
That was a mosque.

Right.

Incubators for terrorism.

Howey
01-26-2015, 11:04 AM
Im more worried about Muslims in high positions here in America.

Muslims are the new communists.

I posted the other day that crazed radicals like you and protectionist are a far greater danger to our country.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 11:06 AM
I posted the other day that crazed radicals like you and @protectionist (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1054) are a far greater danger to our country.

But you were mistaken.

domer76
01-26-2015, 11:22 AM
That was a mosque.

Exactly. The efforts were to prohibit them building their own houses of worship. Muslim no go zones

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 11:27 AM
Exactly. The efforts were to prohibit them building their own houses of worship. Muslim no go zones

Incubators of terrorism.

maineman
01-26-2015, 12:32 PM
no further comment, Mr. Right?


in a heartbeat. I have lived in muslim countries and have never felt intimidated or pressured into changing my lifestyle in any way. What's YOUR experience with muslims, beyond hearing Rush and Sean rant about them?

Howey
01-26-2015, 12:36 PM
But you were mistaken.

Not at all. Most domestic terrorism is at the hands of home grown nutcases like you, Mac-7 and protectionist.

Mister D
01-26-2015, 12:37 PM
Not at all. Most domestic terrorism is at the hands of home grown nutcases like you, @Mac-7 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1014) and @protectionist (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1054).

Most domestic terrorism is at the hands of environmentalist loons.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 12:38 PM
Not at all. Most domestic terrorism is at the hands of home grown nutcases like you, @Mac-7 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1014) and @protectionist (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1054).

These are local mosques correct?

Howey
01-26-2015, 12:48 PM
These are local mosques correct?

Do you think Christians aren't allowed to visit local mosques?

iustitia
01-26-2015, 01:04 PM
I'm sure.

http://thedailyblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/The-righteus-drone-strike.jpg

...you sure?

Private Pickle
01-26-2015, 01:08 PM
Okay, so I read your entire OP and I clicked on all your links to inspect your sources, but all I found were four blogs with very scant evidence that there exists Islamic "no-go" zones in America. The example of an alleged "no-go" zone given by your first and fourth sources is Dearborn, Michigan, but there are more white people in Dearborn than there are Arab Muslims, so I'm not sure how the latter group managed to turn the city into a Sharia enclave right under all those white people's noses. What is so horrible that these Muslims are doing in Dearborn, according to your sources? Private religious schools. Exercising second amendment rights. Electing individuals from their community to local government offices. Building things on their private property.

In the U.S., Dearborn, Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into their first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law). The new idea of ‘no-go’ and ‘no-entry’ is significant, and shockingly being upheld. They provide weapons and guards and government officials in their own societies. They build what they want on their compounds. They have schools inside that their kids are educated in. They are taught their religion in school. No separation of Church (mosque) and State.

In other words, stuff that white Christians do all the time, but suddenly becomes very scary and ominous when Muslims do it. Next you're going to scare everyone with a fact like: They write their own contracts! Or: They have their own political agenda!

Scary stuff man!

So your whole argument is based on the fact that Christians do the same thing?

The Sage of Main Street
01-26-2015, 01:36 PM
So you rebuff the US govt's reports ? On what basis ? Because it is the government's duty to exterminate foreign fighters, so this just seems to be a scare story to blame everything on "liberals." Whoever financed it doesn't care about American security any more than any other Chickenhawk; he just wants to trick us into voting in those who only care about Tax Cuts for the Rich.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 01:42 PM
Do you think Christians aren't allowed to visit local mosques?

Why should they want to?

It is the anti American Islamo kooks who hang around the mosques.

The Sage of Main Street
01-26-2015, 02:05 PM
muslims chose to live together and worship together and school their children together.... I don't see a problem with that. If you don't want to go to that neighborhood, don't go. No one is telling you that you CAN'T go there. If there is a "no-go" nature to any neighborhood, it is self imposed by the people who do not wish to go there. The folks living IN those areas are not keeping anyone from going there. It against the will of the majority that any Moslems live here at all. Therefore, they have no legal right to be here, unless you believe that The Rule of Law Must Be the Law of the Rulers. When a law passes 1% for, 51+% against, something's wrong. But that's what the rulers say we are stuck with in their rethuglic.

The Sage of Main Street
01-26-2015, 02:08 PM
I got an idea, MM, grab a Budweiser, pop the top, and take a stroll past a mosque in Dearborn.. ya ready?


what do you think will happen? Kumbaya goes KABOOM.

The Sage of Main Street
01-26-2015, 02:16 PM
Im more worried about Muslims in high positions here in America.

Muslims are the new communists. Then the Fifth Column has nothing to worry about, because tough-talking flag-wavers refused to fight in the war against the Communists.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 02:28 PM
I think Islam is a false religion, and even backward in some respects, but let's be real. If Islam was a violent religion we'd be dead. The same goes Christianity, both of which comprise about 3 billion people all together. When I go to the gas station down the street the same guy is always there, waves at me and greets me with a smile. I'm always served respectfully and never have to worry about being beheaded, hitting an IED, or bombs in my car. The terrorism aimed at the west is radical and Islamic, yes. It's also usually by pissed off, poor, third worlders resisting western imperialism. Or it's western Muslims who sympathize with those overseas. And even if that weren't true, you're talking about thousands out of billions. Statistically irrelevant.

Let's be real, if Muslim birthrates, immigration and sense of community are a challenge to America or Europe then it's our fault. Less birthrates, dying customs and culture, stupid quotas, and a growing secularization have stunted western civilization more than poor immigrants or Muslims active in their community and children's education.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 02:31 PM
Then the Fifth Column has nothing to worry about, because tough-talking flag-wavers refused to fight in the war against the Communists.

Ok if you say so.

A lot of Americans did fight and they are the flag wavers today.

Admittedly you can find some dems who did serve and some repubs who didn't.

But many Americans you never heard of did fight and they still proudly wave the flag while clinging to their God and their guns.

Mr. Right
01-26-2015, 02:48 PM
I think Islam is a false religion, and even backward in some respects, but let's be real. If Islam was a violent religion we'd be dead. The same goes Christianity, both of which comprise about 3 billion people all together. When I go to the gas station down the street the same guy is always there, waves at me and greets me with a smile. I'm always served respectfully and never have to worry about being beheaded, hitting an IED, or bombs in my car. The terrorism aimed at the west is radical and Islamic, yes. It's also usually by pissed off, poor, third worlders resisting western imperialism. Or it's western Muslims who sympathize with those overseas. And even if that weren't true, you're talking about thousands out of billions. Statistically irrelevant.

Let's be real, if Muslim birthrates, immigration and sense of community are a challenge to America or Europe then it's our fault. Less birthrates, dying customs and culture, stupid quotas, and a growing secularization have stunted western civilization more than poor immigrants or Muslims active in their community and children's education.

Sir, while in principal I agree with some of your analogy, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen (to name a few), don't have the problem of Christians moving to their nations and bringing their pigs, and bikini clad daughters into their neighborhoods. If I were to go over there and
attempt to open a bar or a strip club, recon how long that would fly?
We had this conversation regarding a muzzie woman who was offended b/c a breakfast eatery featured bacon. When a muzzie community pops up, the first thing that happens is they whine about accepted western culture, and begin forcing their culture upon everyone around them. It's how they roll.

maineman
01-26-2015, 02:55 PM
Why should they want to?

It is the anti American Islamo kooks who hang around the mosques.

have you ever been in a mosque?

Green Arrow
01-26-2015, 03:12 PM
Sir, while in principal I agree with some of your analogy, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen (to name a few), don't have the problem of Christians moving to their nations and bringing their pigs, and bikini clad daughters into their neighborhoods. If I were to go over there and
attempt to open a bar or a strip club, recon how long that would fly?
We had this conversation regarding a muzzie woman who was offended b/c a breakfast eatery featured bacon. When a muzzie community pops up, the first thing that happens is they whine about accepted western culture, and begin forcing their culture upon everyone around them. It's how they roll.

It's how everyone rolls.

Mister D
01-26-2015, 03:22 PM
I think Islam is a false religion, and even backward in some respects, but let's be real. If Islam was a violent religion we'd be dead. The same goes Christianity, both of which comprise about 3 billion people all together. When I go to the gas station down the street the same guy is always there, waves at me and greets me with a smile. I'm always served respectfully and never have to worry about being beheaded, hitting an IED, or bombs in my car. The terrorism aimed at the west is radical and Islamic, yes. It's also usually by pissed off, poor, third worlders resisting western imperialism. Or it's western Muslims who sympathize with those overseas. And even if that weren't true, you're talking about thousands out of billions. Statistically irrelevant.

Let's be real, if Muslim birthrates, immigration and sense of community are a challenge to America or Europe then it's our fault. Less birthrates, dying customs and culture, stupid quotas, and a growing secularization have stunted western civilization more than poor immigrants or Muslims active in their community and children's education.

Regarding that last bit I must agree. Immigration has been a negative phenomenon but our identity crisis is not the fault of economic migrants.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 04:53 PM
have you ever been in a mosque?

No.

there are lots of places have not been.

But we know that muslim terrorists visit them regularly.

Howey
01-26-2015, 04:56 PM
No.

there are lots of places have not been.

But we know that muslim terrorists visit them regularly.

We do?

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 05:12 PM
We do?

I don't know how informed you are.

But according to news reports mosques have been a recruiting center for generations.

Howey
01-26-2015, 05:17 PM
I don't know how informed you are.

But according to news reports mosques have been a recruiting center for generations.

They have?

Are they next door to the homo recruiting stations?

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 05:28 PM
They have?

Are they next door to the homo recruiting stations?

Don't ask me.

I don't like homos any better than Muslim terrorists.

Mister D
01-26-2015, 05:31 PM
Don't ask me.

I don't like homos any better than Muslim terrorists.

lol

Green Arrow
01-26-2015, 05:43 PM
Private religious schools. Exercising second amendment rights. Electing individuals from their community to local government offices. Building things on their private property.

If that is all these "no-go" zones are, then every group in America should have no-go zones.

maineman
01-26-2015, 05:55 PM
No.

there are lots of places have not been.

But we know that muslim terrorists visit them regularly.

"we"? do you have a mouse in your pocket?

"You all" seem to know a lot about mosques even though you've never been in one. Did Rush tell you?

Howey
01-26-2015, 06:02 PM
Don't ask me.

I don't like homos any better than Muslim terrorists.

Who do you like besides straight white Christian males?

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 06:24 PM
Who do you like besides straight white Christian males?

Straight white Christian females.

Howey
01-26-2015, 06:39 PM
Straight white Christian females.

Shame you can't find one.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 06:44 PM
Shame you can't find one.

Ha!

But nice try.

William
01-26-2015, 07:28 PM
I've been inside a Mosque, both in England and in Australia, and I've been inside a Jewish temple and a Buddhist temple. None of them were scary, and people were just praying - no one was being recruited.

I heard all this rubbish about Birmingham being a Muslim city, and parts of Paris being no-go zones for non-Muslims. Except for blogs and and rants from Fox News, there is no evidence to support it in either the UK or France. British law and French law doesn't recognise such things, and if people were prevented from going to those zones, those who stop them would be arrested. That hasn't happened.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 07:29 PM
Sir, while in principal I agree with some of your analogy, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Yemen (to name a few), don't have the problem of Christians moving to their nations and bringing their pigs, and bikini clad daughters into their neighborhoods. If I were to go over there and
attempt to open a bar or a strip club, recon how long that would fly?
We had this conversation regarding a muzzie woman who was offended b/c a breakfast eatery featured bacon. When a muzzie community pops up, the first thing that happens is they whine about accepted western culture, and begin forcing their culture upon everyone around them. It's how they roll.

So how we treat immigrants should be based on how we're treated in said immigrants' homeland that they chose to leave?

"When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God."

That's from fucking Leviticus. Leviticus. I'm not going to treat people like shit because they're "muzzies". Or brown. Or from another country. Super faggy lisps? Sure. Weird hole things in their ears so they look like elephants or under their lips so you can see their teeth? Absolutely. But not because of where they were born. That's rude.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:00 PM
There are no no-go zones in the US. What there is, however, are lots of scared Islamophobes.

There is no such thing as Islamaphobia. A phobia is an irrational fear. But it is not irrational to fear Islam. Not after 25,000 attacks in the name of Islam around the world, including about 100 in the USA + thousands of instances of Islamization (which liberals are oblivious to because their media doesn't speak about it).

As for the no go zones, they have been documented for years, but the liberals are oblivious. Ho hum. What else is new. yawn****

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:04 PM
No such thing as a "no-go" zone in America. If you're too chicken $#@! to go there, that's your problem.

He comes in and says there aren't any no go zones, after I listed them 2 posts earlier. Is there a doctor in the house ? :rolleyes20:

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:08 PM
Didn't some guy from Faux news recently get laughed off the air for saying similar stuff about Europe?

Anybody can laugh at somebody. But knowing what they're laughing at is another matter. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:11 PM
muslims chose to live together and worship together and school their children together.... I don't see a problem with that. If you don't want to go to that neighborhood, don't go. No one is telling you that you CAN'T go there. If there is a "no-go" nature to any neighborhood, it is self imposed by the people who do not wish to go there. The folks living IN those areas are not keeping anyone from going there.

They most certainly ARE.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:12 PM
according to Faux News, anyhow.

According to the European govts themselves.

http://sig.ville.gouv.fr/Atlas/ZUS/

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:22 PM
The network & the reporter who made the no-go statement have all apologized and issued a retraction. Funny how it doesn't seem to have attracted the attention or belief that the original report did.

Of course not. It shouldn't. The apologies and retractions were all false, the result of routine Islamization litigation pressure. This has been going on for years. Only Islamization-ignorant liberals (whose media doesn't mention Islamization) wouldn't know this.

Fox News is a BUSINESS which operates 24/7. They are under constant pressure to produce shows on very little time. This rush, rush MO is mainly what caused Fox to issue apologies where none were really needed. This is actually a quite common phenomena (par of Islamization) gone on for years, with a long list of media people who have apologized, been fired from jobs (ex. Michael Graham WMAL-AM radio, Major Stephen Coughlin, the Pentagon), fired from universities (Thomas Klocek, DePaul Univ., changed plots of movies (ex. Sum of All Fears-Paramount Pictures), etc. Others vilified/smeared are Cal Thomas (columnist), Paul Harvey (radio personality), Brigitte Gabriel (author), Virgil Goode (US Congressman), FOX's TV show 24, etc

The companies are on tight time budgets, are constantly racing to produce shows, and don't have time to fart around with Islamists pushing their agenda and threatening lawsuits, boycotts, smear campaigns, etc Litigation can strangle media shows, and they'll do most anything just to make it go away. Ho hum. Some old thing.

But the people who pick up on these "apologies" and think they have a grain of validity, are the real laughingstocks. Some of them are pretenders pushing hatred of media they don't like (and often fear). Others really are ignorant of Islamization and its methodology, and are oblivious to what's actually happening, the result of lack of education about Islamization, and a complete blackout of it in the liberal media they only view. http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/shakeshead.gif

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 08:25 PM
Absolutely, it is scary.

But only when Muslims do it, right?


I would guess that a liberal wouldn't have a clue about anything pertaining to Islamization. Not when all your media sources exclude the subject entirely, so how would you know anything ? Here's a little education for you. After you finish that, let me know if you'd care to take my Islamization Quiz. It's excellent for teaching liberals how much they don't know about Islamization (of which the US no go zones are just one example)

I already read your sources and they do not support your hysterical claims in the slightest.


There are at last count about 36 (for years) WELL-DOCUMENTED no go zones in America.

Well-documented by who? I haven't seen any "documents" from you or your sources that establish the existence of an Islamic "no-go" zone anywhere in America. Please provide us with these documents up front instead of expecting us to go fishing around your kook blogs looking for them.


They are all over the US. The Department of Homeland Security says (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/31/politics/31threat.html) that Muslims of the Americas is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra (http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/terroristoutfits/jamaat-ul-fuqra.htm), a Pakistani terrorist group. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorism report (http://terrorisminfo.mipt.org/pdf/1998pogt.pdf) in 1998 described ul-Fuqra as an “Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.” Other fronts for the group include the International Quranic Open University (http://www.iqou-moa.org/), the United Muslim-Christian Forum (http://www.umcforum.org/), the Islamic Post (http://www.islamicpostonline.com/) newspaper, the Muslim Scouts of America (http://www.iqou-moa.org/muslim_scouts/index.htm), the Hands to Hands (http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/1613) charity, Muslim Vets (http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/militant-muslims-of-america-pulling-out-all-stops-for-ny-parade/), the American Muslim Medical and Relief Team (http://www.iqou-moa.org/relief/amirt.htm), and the Islamic Naat Group (http://www.al-adaab.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=64:islamic-naat-group-productions&Itemid=63). A few examples of these no go zones are >>

1. Dearborn Michigan: Over 100,000 Muslims, 45% of the city has settled into our first ‘no-go’ zone. The city and police officials have been sued in many cases that allege discrimination “against Christians” effectively by the authorities applying Sharia law. Dearborn-Dar-al-Islam, (a place governed by Islamic Sharia law).

I already disproved this claim. You haven't provided a shred of documentation or evidence to suggest that Dearborn (a majority WHITE city) is an Islamic "no-go" zone. And since this claim is demonstrably false and unsupportable, I think we can safely assume that the rest of your claims are equally false and unsupportable.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 08:26 PM
So you rebuff the US govt's reports ? On what basis ?

Which one of the US government's reports documents the existence of an Islamic "no-go" zone in America? Cite the specific document and text.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 08:27 PM
White Christians are not waging jihad all over the world.

Debatable.


Muslims are.

Every Muslim in the world is waging a Jihad? That's news to me.

maineman
01-26-2015, 08:30 PM
They most certainly ARE.


and you know this...how? Have YOU actually been prevented from walking down a sidewalk or driving down a street in a muslim neighborhood in any US City?

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 08:35 PM
I got an idea, MM, grab a Budweiser, pop the top, and take a stroll past a mosque in Dearborn.. ya ready?

Do you have any evidence that non-Muslims aren't allowed to walk past a mosque in Dearborn? Let's see it.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:36 PM
Which one of the US government's reports documents the existence of an Islamic "no-go" zone in America? Cite the specific document and text.
You just posted in the quote box a few posts ago. Are you blind, or maybe you are so ignorant on this subject you dont't even know what your're reading. Let's try this again shall we ?

They are all over the US. The Department of Homeland Security says (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/31/politics/31threat.html) that Muslims of the Americas is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra (http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/terroristoutfits/jamaat-ul-fuqra.htm), a Pakistani terrorist group. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorism report (http://terrorisminfo.mipt.org/pdf/1998pogt.pdf) in 1998 described ul-Fuqra as an “Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.” Other fronts for the group include the International Quranic Open University (http://www.iqou-moa.org/), the United Muslim-Christian Forum (http://www.umcforum.org/), the Islamic Post (http://www.islamicpostonline.com/) newspaper, the Muslim Scouts of America (http://www.iqou-moa.org/muslim_scouts/index.htm), the Hands to Hands (http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/1613) charity, Muslim Vets (http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/militant-muslims-of-america-pulling-out-all-stops-for-ny-parade/), the American Muslim Medical and Relief Team (http://www.iqou-moa.org/relief/amirt.htm), and the Islamic Naat Group (http://www.al-adaab.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=64:islamic-naat-group-productions&Itemid=63).

EARTH TO E: you do know that MOA is the governing group over almost all the enclaves don't you ? Well there you have it. Are you just trying to avoid this ? And dude, it doesn't matter if there are US govt reports to not. That not a big deal at all. There are tons of information about the enclaves. You are just trying to be a smart ass about this. And don't give me that crap tat my links don't show no go zones. YES THEY DO.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:37 PM
Do you have any evidence that non-Muslims aren't allowed to walk past a mosque in Dearborn? Let's see it.
How about a video of them being stoned by Muslims ? (when they didn't even walk past that mosque) Would that wet your appetite ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBaTVwIJH-E

http://www.clarionproject.org/news/american-muslims-stone-christians-dearborn-michigan

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 08:37 PM
I guess it depends on how much control muslims must have to qualify as a Muslim no-go zone.

Claiming that an entire city like Birmingham England has converted to islam may not be strictly accurate.

But according to Rueters Birmingham has Avery large islamo population so certainly there can be entire neighborhoods where no on Muslim is welcome.

Let us know when you find some evidence to support your claims.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 08:38 PM
Dearborn is a strange place. 30-40 years ago it was a white haven where blacks did not live. Regardless, it is not under Sharia law. Someone should fact check before posting.

However, I would be loathe to spend time there as it is very hostile towards women in parts, much like Detroit is hostile to human life.

PolWatch
01-26-2015, 08:39 PM
Let us know when you find some evidence to support your claims.

evidence is not necessary to support hysteria

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:42 PM
Let us know when you find some evidence to support your claims.

You're full of crap. You know damn well these no go zones exist, and your coming in here pretending you don't. You have the integrity of a wart hog.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 08:43 PM
You just posted in the quote box a few posts ago. Are you blind, or maybe you are so ignorant on this subject you dont't even know what your're reading. Let's try this again shall we ?

They are all over the US. The Department of Homeland Security says (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/31/politics/31threat.html) that Muslims of the Americas is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra (http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/terroristoutfits/jamaat-ul-fuqra.htm), a Pakistani terrorist group. The State Department’s Patterns of Global Terrorism report (http://terrorisminfo.mipt.org/pdf/1998pogt.pdf) in 1998 described ul-Fuqra as an “Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.” Other fronts for the group include the International Quranic Open University (http://www.iqou-moa.org/), the United Muslim-Christian Forum (http://www.umcforum.org/), the Islamic Post (http://www.islamicpostonline.com/) newspaper, the Muslim Scouts of America (http://www.iqou-moa.org/muslim_scouts/index.htm), the Hands to Hands (http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/1613) charity, Muslim Vets (http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/militant-muslims-of-america-pulling-out-all-stops-for-ny-parade/), the American Muslim Medical and Relief Team (http://www.iqou-moa.org/relief/amirt.htm), and the Islamic Naat Group (http://www.al-adaab.org/home/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=64:islamic-naat-group-productions&Itemid=63).

EARTH TO E: you do know that MOA is the governing group over almost all the enclaves don't you ? Well there you have it. Are you just trying to avoid this ? And dude, it doesn't matter if there are US govt reports to not. That not a big deal at all. There are tons of information about the enclaves. You are just trying to be a smart ass about this. And don't give me that crap tat my links don't show no go zones. YES THEY DO.

None of your links contain a US government report documenting the existence of an Islamic "no-go" zone anywhere in America. That is why you cannot cite the specific text confirming your allegation. Because it doesn't exist. Your dishonesty is truly incredible.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:45 PM
evidence is not necessary to support hysteria

He has seen the evidence and so have you. This isn't a question. You're not fooling anybody. You're also off topic. The topic isn't whether no go zones exist. We all know they do. Some of them are listed on page 1. The topic is how to go about getting rid of the US ones.

PolWatch
01-26-2015, 08:46 PM
your hysteria on the subject is on topic....try again

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:46 PM
Let us know when you find some evidence to support your claims.

Let us know when you're going to stop bullshitting.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:48 PM
Not at all. Most domestic terrorism is at the hands of home grown nutcases like you, @Mac-7 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1014) and @protectionist (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1054).
So you're saying that I am a terrorist ?

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:50 PM
Because it is the government's duty to exterminate foreign fighters, so this just seems to be a scare story to blame everything on "liberals." Whoever financed it doesn't care about American security any more than any other Chickenhawk; he just wants to trick us into voting in those who only care about Tax Cuts for the Rich.

So you're saying the enclaves I listed on page 1 don't exist ?

http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Islamville,_South_Carolina

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/muslims-americas-odum-georgia

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/islamberg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTeydKRyZ36QDRTH_nmChGSMKanAPJ5c sH6YNZ9iGotXXUJCDGH (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgatesofvienna.blogspot.com%2F2005 %2F10%2Fjamaat-ul-fuqra-in-virginia-part-1.html&ei=qvHGVP2-B7iNsQSqtYDwDA&bvm=bv.84349003,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNG6nro4gvz99daWOzm3TOj9VL00RQ&ust=1422410419330126) Red House, VA enclave

http://theprepperproject.com/tactical-training-courses/

I had more maps and aerial photos but the forum wouldn't let them in (Note; other 2 forums did - this forum is deficient)

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 08:51 PM
How about a video of them being stoned by Muslims ? (when they didn't even walk past that mosque) Would that wet your appetite ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBaTVwIJH-E

http://www.clarionproject.org/news/american-muslims-stone-christians-dearborn-michigan

More blatant dishonesty from the resident hysteric.

1. They were throwing plastic bottles, not stones.
2. One small confrontation between Muslims and Christians in Dearborn does not prove that the entire city of Dearborn is an Islamic "no-go" zone.
3. I'm done clicking on your links. They never say what you claim they say.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 08:53 PM
evidence is not necessary to support hysteria

Whenever these hysterics lack evidence, they just muddy the waters by throwing a bunch of links and blocks of text at you and hoping that no one will take the time to thoroughly scrutinize their sources and claims. Protectionist has this down to a science.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:54 PM
More blatant dishonesty from the resident hysteric.

1. They were throwing plastic bottles, not stones.
2. One small confrontation between Muslims and Christians in Dearborn does not prove that the entire city of Dearborn is an Islamic "no-go" zone.
3. I'm done clicking on your links. They never say what you claim they say.

More dishonesty from our resident baldfaced LIAR. They were throwing stones and this isn't the only video or report about it.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 08:55 PM
Whenever these hysterics lack evidence, they just muddy the waters by throwing a bunch of links and blocks of text at you and hoping that no one will take the time to thoroughly scrutinize their sources and claims. Protectionist has this down to a science.

You GOT tons of evidence . Shut up, fool. Stop lying.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 08:57 PM
You're full of crap.

No, that would be you. It's basically coming out of your ears.


You know $#@! well these no go zones exist, and your coming in here pretending you don't.

Actually, I know they don't exist, because you cannot provide a shred of evidence in support of your claims. Every source or link you've provided is nothing more than some kook blog engaging in hysterics and exaggeration. There are no US government reports that document the existence of an Islamic "no-go" zone anywhere in America, despite your insistence to the contrary. If there were, you would just produce the report and cite the relevant text for everyone to see.


You have the integrity of a wart hog.

That's more than I can say for you.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 08:58 PM
From the Detroit Free Press:

http://www.freep.com/article/20121211/NEWS06/121211091/Muslim-rights-group-warns-against-anti-sharia-bill


Walid said that aside from undermining the rights and well-being of Muslims, the bill creates an atmosphere unfriendly to international investment and the immigration of people who can promote Michigan’s economic development. Supporters have cited 50 appellate cases in 23 states that involve conflicts between sharia law and U.S. state laws, including foreign judgments on divorces and child custody that were allowed to stand. The cases they cite do not include any in Michigan.

Several other groups also have expressed concern, including the Michigan Catholic Conference and Arab social and civil rights organizations in metro Detroit, which has one of the largest populations of Arabs and Muslims in the country.


So we have a handful of cases (none in Michigan oddly) and no official implementation of Sharia law.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 08:58 PM
He has seen the evidence and so have you. This isn't a question. You're not fooling anybody. You're also off topic. The topic isn't whether no go zones exist. We all know they do. Some of them are listed on page 1. The topic is how to go about getting rid of the US ones.

Your claims that they exist are not evidence that they exist. They are just the claims of some random internet hysteric that have nothing to back them up.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 08:59 PM
More dishonesty from our resident baldfaced LIAR. They were throwing stones and this isn't the only video or report about it.

You should probably calm down. None of your links go to credible news sources, are fact-checked, or lead to anything other than a blog that got its information from a satirical website that made a blog entry on this topic.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:00 PM
Let us know when you're going to stop bullshitting.

Let us know when you can produce that report from the US government documenting the existence of an Islamic "no-go" zone anywhere in America.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:01 PM
So you're saying that I am a terrorist ?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 09:01 PM
I don't necessarily trust the government to report on an inconvenient topic, but I know Fox News and if there was such a thing you'd see several videos of it on Youtube right now.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 09:03 PM
protectionist

http://www.law.msu.edu/library/substantive/local.html

Click on Dearborn or Detroit and read the city codes/ordinances.

PolWatch
01-26-2015, 09:04 PM
I'm sure we will soon see prot's ultimate proof....red print to start any minute now.....

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:05 PM
More dishonesty from our resident baldfaced LIAR. They were throwing stones and this isn't the only video or report about it.

You're probably the biggest liar on the entire forum, so I will take that as an indication that I'm on the right track.

And, unlike you, I actually watched the video all the way through, and they were clearly throwing empty plastic bottles, not stones. That's why at 1:57 of the video, a man asks the cop, "Where were you when the BOTTLES were flying?"

Not a single claim you've made so far has been true. You must have even less integrity than a warthog.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 09:10 PM
All cities have their legal codes online now. If you think your city lives under Sharia law look up the laws of the city. This isn't rocket science. Find a code that says homosexuality puts you in jail or women must walk behind the male.

You want to see REAL Sharia:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-preacher-who-raped-and-tortured-his-five-yearold-daughter-to-death-is-released-after-paying-blood-money-8480440.html

Saudi preacher who 'raped and tortured' his five -year-old daughter to death is released after paying 'blood money'

A ‘celebrity’ Saudi preacher accused of raping, torturing and killing his five-year-old daughter has reportedly been released from custody after agreeing to pay ‘blood money’.Fayhan al-Ghamdi had been accused of killing his daughter Lama, who suffered multiple injuries including a crushed skull, broken back, broken ribs, a broken left arm and extensive bruising and burns. Social workers say she had also been repeatedly raped and burnt.
Fayhan al-Ghamdi admitted using a cane and cables to inflict the injuries after doubting his five-year-old daughter’s virginity and taking her to a doctor, according to the campaign group Women to Drive.


Rather than getting the death penalty or receiving a long prison sentence for the crime, Fayhan al-Ghamdi served only a few months in jail before a judge ruled the prosecution could only seek ‘blood money’.


We do not have this bullshit barbarity in the US. In fact, I'm almost certain the Muslims who live here come to escape that.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:11 PM
You GOT tons of evidence .

I already read all your sources. Not a single one of them contain any evidence that there are Islamic "no-go" zones anywhere in America. And after I challenged you to produce a US government report documenting their existence, you cited a report that links Jamaat-ul-Fuqra to Muslims of America, which is not what I asked for, nor is it what you have been claiming the entire time. You are nothing more than a brazen liar and hysteric.


Shut up, fool. Stop lying.

You should probably take your own advice.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:15 PM
Whenever these hysterics lack evidence, they just muddy the waters by throwing a bunch of links and blocks of text at you and hoping that no one will take the time to thoroughly scrutinize their sources and claims. Protectionist has this down to a science.

http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Is...South_Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Islamville,_South_Carolina)

http://www.clarionproject.org/analys...s-odum-georgia (http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/muslims-americas-odum-georgia)

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/islamberg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTeydKRyZ36QDRTH_nmChGSMKanAPJ5c sH6YNZ9iGotXXUJCDGH (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgatesofvienna.blogspot.com%2F2005 %2F10%2Fjamaat-ul-fuqra-in-virginia-part-1.html&ei=qvHGVP2-B7iNsQSqtYDwDA&bvm=bv.84349003,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNG6nro4gvz99daWOzm3TOj9VL00RQ&ust=1422410419330126) Red House, VA enclave

http://theprepperproject.com/tactical-training-courses/

I had more maps and aerial photos but the forum wouldn't let them in (Note; other 2 forums did - this forum is deficient)

http://www.clarionproject.org/sites/default/files/MOA-Odum-GA-Aliville-IP.jpg

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 09:17 PM
LOL I went to the first link, here's the site map:


Main Menu

Home (http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/index.html)
News and Events (http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/news/)
Internet Links (http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/links/)
Site Map (http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/sitemap.html)
Guestbook (http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/guestbook.html)
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Crepitus
01-26-2015, 09:17 PM
Anybody can laugh at somebody. But knowing what they're laughing at is another matter. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif
Well, the people doing the laughing certainly seemed to know......... What's your point?

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:19 PM
Protectionist claims that a US government report has documented the existence of Islamic "no-go" zones in America. I challenged him to produce that report and cite the specific text supporting his claims. Here is what he provided:


Homeland Report Says Threat From Terror-List Nations Is Declining (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/31/politics/31threat.html)

By ERIC LIPTON

Published: March 31, 2005

WASHINGTON, March 30 - A Department of Homeland Security internal report that assesses terrorist organizations, their anticipated targets and preferred weapons concludes that the threat to the United States presented by North Korea and several other countries long described as "state sponsors of terrorism" is declining.

"In the post-9/11 environment, countries do not appear to be facilitating or supporting terrorist groups intent on striking the U.S. homeland," says the draft report, which is intended to help the Homeland Security agency define its spending priorities through 2011.

Of the six nations identified by the State Department as terrorist sponsors, five of them - North Korea, Sudan, Syria, Libya and Cuba - are described by Homeland Security as a "diminishing concern." Iran, the final country on the list, alone is described as a potential threat over the next five years.

"Only Iran appears to have the possible future motivation to use terrorist groups, in addition to its own state agents, to plot against the U.S. homeland," the report says, adding that "ideologically driven nonstate actors" are the biggest threat.

Terrorism experts said Wednesday that while the assessment seemed accurate, it was an unusual statement for the Bush administration, which has often called North Korea and several other nations serious threats.

"The administration has been very reluctant to accept that state sponsorship is a waning phenomenon," said Daniel Benjamin, a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and a co-author of "The Age of Sacred Terror."

This is the first time the two-year-old department has prepared what will now be an annual Integrated Planning Guidance Report, a document that is listed as "sensitive" but not classified, meaning it was not intended to be released publicly.

The goal, said Brian Roehrkasse, a department spokesman, is to better focus the department's $40 billion in annual spending toward the most serious threats.

Al Qaeda, not unexpectedly, tops a list of adversaries in the report, although the authors question if the group can still pull off attacks similar in scale to those of Sept. 11, 2001.

Other predicted possible sponsors of attacks include Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a Pakistani-based group that has been linked to Muslims of America; Jamaat al Tabligh, an Islamic missionary organization that has a presence in the United States; and the American Dar Al Islam Movement. Representatives for the organizations could not be reached Wednesday for comment or did not respond to telephone or e-mail messages.

The report, which was first disclosed last week on the Congressional Quarterly Web site, identifies animal rights activists and radical environmentalists as possible backers of plots. But it does not mention any domestic extremist groups, like World Church of the Creator, Aryan Nations or anti-abortion activists, which have previously been identified by federal officials as domestic terrorist threats.

In assessing the most likely targets, the report says that "visual symbols" - like the White House, the Capitol, the Pentagon and the C.I.A. headquarters - as well as "American popular culture icons" - including the Golden Gate Bridge, George Washington Bridge and the Statue of Liberty - top the list.

The report says increasing security may simply force a change in the weapons terrorists would try to use, for example mortars or rockets to attack from a distance. Truck bombs and small boats packed with explosives are identified as other extremely likely weapons of choice.

Nowhere in this article, which is almost TEN YEARS OLD, does it mention or even allude to the existence of an Islamic "no-go" zone anywhere in America.

Nice try, Protectionist, but we weren't born yesterday.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 09:19 PM
From the Wiki:


Holy Islamvilleunincorporated community (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unincorporated_area) in York County (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/York_County,_South_Carolina), South Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina), United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States). Founded by Mubarak Ali Gilani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mubarak_Ali_Gilani) in 1983, it is a branch of Muslims of the Americas Inc. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaat_ul-Fuqra). The community is currently in the process of expanding the Baitun-Noor Holy Khanqah, the shrine of the Sufis.

It is an unincorporated community. This sounds like my neighborhood. Wow! If this is proof, folks there is anarchism now in the US! It's here in VA.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 09:21 PM
LOL I went to the first link, here's the site map:


Main Menu



Home (http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/index.html)
News and Events (http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/news/)
Internet Links (http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/links/)
Site Map (http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/sitemap.html)
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:smiley_ROFLMAO:

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:23 PM
I already read all your sources. Not a single one of them contain any evidence that there are Islamic "no-go" zones anywhere in America. And after I challenged you to produce a US government report documenting their existence, you cited a report that links Jamaat-ul-Fuqra to Muslims of America, which is not what I asked for, nor is it what you have been claiming the entire time. You are nothing more than a brazen liar and hysteric.

You should probably take your own advice.

Yes they do. For someone to come in here and say the enclaves don't exist is the height of idiocy, and is just crazy. You act like this enclave issue is something new . Maybe to you, in your Islamization ignorance, like most liberals who never get this info from your liberal media that don't speak about it. But to the rest of us, we've been talking about these no go zone enclaves for 15 years.

You're just another liberal who's ignorant of this and most everything else about Islamization. Want to take the Islamization Quiz and find out how much you don't know ? http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:24 PM
http://www.holyislamvillesc.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Is...South_Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Islamville,_South_Carolina)

http://www.clarionproject.org/analys...s-odum-georgia (http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/muslims-americas-odum-georgia)

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/islamberg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTeydKRyZ36QDRTH_nmChGSMKanAPJ5c sH6YNZ9iGotXXUJCDGH (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgatesofvienna.blogspot.com%2F2005 %2F10%2Fjamaat-ul-fuqra-in-virginia-part-1.html&ei=qvHGVP2-B7iNsQSqtYDwDA&bvm=bv.84349003,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNG6nro4gvz99daWOzm3TOj9VL00RQ&ust=1422410419330126) Red House, VA enclave

http://theprepperproject.com/tactical-training-courses/

I had more maps and aerial photos but the forum wouldn't let them in (Note; other 2 forums did - this forum is deficient)

http://www.clarionproject.org/sites/default/files/MOA-Odum-GA-Aliville-IP.jpg

Oh, look, more gibberish and kook blogs for us to waste our time with.

I would strongly advise the forum community to refrain from clicking on any of Protectionist's links. The ones he provides are either broken, not credible, or not supportive of his views. I wouldn't be surprised either if they were infested with malware.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 09:24 PM
Nice try, Protectionist, but we weren't born yesterday.

All that cheap generic Viagra without a prescription must be affecting the blood flow to his thinky-thinky parts!

:smiley_ROFLMAO:

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:27 PM
Images from Dearborn >>

http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/sharia-zone-pamphel11.jpg (http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/sharia-zone-pamphel11.jpg) http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/20110730-d0434-450x288.jpg (http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/20110730-d0434.jpg)

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:27 PM
All that cheap generic Viagra without a prescription must be affecting the blood flow to his thinky-thinky parts!

:smiley_ROFLMAO:
US no go zones are long-established fact. If you have only been viewing liberal media, which intentionally screens this info out, that's YOUR problem, not the readers of this forum.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:28 PM
Yes they do.

Maybe you think unsubstantiated claims made by some kook with a blog is evidence, but reasonable people know better.


For someone to come in here and say the enclaves don't exist is the height of idiocy, and is just crazy. You act like this enclave issue is something new . Maybe to you, in your Islamization ignorance, like most liberals who never get this info from your liberal media that don't speak about it. But to the rest of us, we've been talking about these no go zone enclaves for 15 years.

You've been talking about something that doesn't exist then.


You're just another liberal who's ignorant of this and most everything else about Islamization. Want to take the Islamization Quiz and find out how much you don't know ? http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

I already wasted my time reading your collection of kook blogs, broken links, and irrelevant stories, why would I waste even more of my time taking some moronic quiz that was created by a known liar?

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:29 PM
If it were put to a vote Americans would vote overwhelmingly to bust up the enclaves, root out the terrorists, and convert the compounds into amusement parks, or some beneficial use. This is especially true now that terrorism is the # 1 top priority concern among Americans (Pew Research Center)

In France, the newspaper France Soir published (http://archive.francesoir.fr/actualite/societe/sondage-l-armee-en-banlieue-oui-108821.html) poll results showing that nearly 60% of French citizens are in favor of sending the army into troubled no go zone suburbs to restore order.

Sondage L arm e en banlieue Oui France Soir (http://archive.francesoir.fr/actualite/societe/sondage-l-armee-en-banlieue-oui-108821.html)

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:30 PM
US no go zones are long-established fact. If you have only been viewing liberal media, which intentionally screens this info out, that's YOUR problem, not the readers of this forum.

Still waiting for you to produce that US government report documenting the existence of Islamic "no-go" zones in America.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:31 PM
If it were put to a vote Americans would vote overwhelmingly to bust up the enclaves, root out the terrorists, and convert the compounds into amusement parks, or some beneficial use. This is especially true now that terrorism is the # 1 top priority concern among Americans (Pew Research Center)

In France, the newspaper France Soir published (http://archive.francesoir.fr/actualite/societe/sondage-l-armee-en-banlieue-oui-108821.html) poll results showing that nearly 60% of French citizens are in favor of sending the army into troubled no go zone suburbs to restore order.

Sondage L arm e en banlieue Oui France Soir (http://archive.francesoir.fr/actualite/societe/sondage-l-armee-en-banlieue-oui-108821.html)

More deluded rambling from a proven liar and fraud. You really are a waste of my time.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 09:32 PM
Dearborn Michigan protectionist does NOT have Sharia Law. I posted the legal codes. Does it have HUGE Muslim population? ... yes! Do they self-police their Muslim communities? YES. Does that mean if I go get coffee in Dearborn with my friends that I have to wear a headscarf? No.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:35 PM
Maybe you think unsubstantiated claims made by some kook with a blog is evidence, but reasonable people know bette
You've been talking about something that doesn't exist then
I already wasted my time reading your collection of kook blogs, broken links, and irrelevant stories, why would I waste even more of my time taking some moronic quiz that was created by a known liar?

http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/dearborn-no-go-zone-where-islam-rules-and-christians-are-stoned

http://truthuncensored.net/there-are-muslim-no-go-zones-in-the-usa/

http://counterjihadreport.com/tag/no-go-zones/

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2010/ryan-mauro/munslim-enclaves-u-s-a/

http://patriotupdate.com/articles/homegrown-go-zones-none-dare-call-itjihad-terrorist-training-camps/

http://www.truthandaction.org/muslim-no-go-zones-inside-america/

No lack of evidence about the no go zone enclaves in America.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:40 PM
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/dearborn-no-go-zone-where-islam-rules-and-christians-are-stoned

http://truthuncensored.net/there-are-muslim-no-go-zones-in-the-usa/

http://counterjihadreport.com/tag/no-go-zones/

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2010/ryan-mauro/munslim-enclaves-u-s-a/

http://patriotupdate.com/articles/homegrown-go-zones-none-dare-call-itjihad-terrorist-training-camps/

http://www.truthandaction.org/muslim-no-go-zones-inside-america/

No lack of evidence about the no go zone enclaves in America.

Nobody is interested in reading your kook blogs. Let us know when you can produce something more credible.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:42 PM
More deluded rambling from a proven liar and fraud. You really are a waste of my time.

YOU are a waste of MY time. You know NOTHING about this subject or anything else about Islamization. Want to take my Islamization Quiz and find out how much you don't know ? Of course not. You know if you did you'd be exposed for the Islamization know-nothing, and FRAUD that you are. So keep talking, while you cowardly punk out from the Quiz. In the meantime, you get a ZERO on it by default.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:44 PM
What kind of total moron applauds and excuses disgusting, stinking muslims who want them dead? Oh yeah, LIBERALS.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 09:44 PM
Images from Dearborn >>

http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/sharia-zone-pamphel11.jpg (http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/sharia-zone-pamphel11.jpg) http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/20110730-d0434-450x288.jpg (http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/20110730-d0434.jpg)

I followed the image's host and got to here-

http://truthuncensored.net/there-are-muslim-no-go-zones-in-the-usa/

Wouldn't you know it, the image didn't actually have a caption or reference to it being Dearborn. So I decided to check for citations and wouldn't you know...


Photos courtesy of Google.com
Mail OnLine (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541635/Murders-rapes-going-unreported-no-zones-police-minority-communities-launch-justice-systems.html)
Patriot Update (http://patriotupdate.com/articles/homegrown-go-zones-none-dare-call-itjihad-terrorist-training-camps/)
Sharia Unveiled (http://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/2014/02/08/london-britain-first-acquires-armoured-military-equipment-and-are-conducting-christian-patrols-of-muslim-districts/)



I followed all those links to blogs and none of them sported the image. Oh wait, photos courtesy of Google? Well shit.

Using Google's infamous image searching ability, I pasted the url of the image you took from a loony blog, and used the "search by image" option. Everything from more nutty blogs to Allen West came up. Eventually I came upon what I believe is the original source-

http://www.demotix.com/photo/772274/muslims-march-sharia-law-zones-uk


Around 70 men from Muslims Against Crusades marched in London calling for the setting up of Sharia law controlled zones in which Islamic rules would be enforced. The ENA and others demonstrated against them. 30 July 2011

So four years ago some assholes were protesting in the UK and some other assholes protested them. It's not from Dearborn and you're a goddamn liar.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:45 PM
INVALIDATION is hard-wired into Islamapologiststs.

As for Emerson, he is a longtime EXCELLENT protectionist, and I could give examples of where he has exposed Islamists, if not raked them over the coals (available on request). So he made a slight mistake in his wording about Birmingham. That's not a big deal. Everybody makes these little mistakes from time to time. Let he who is 100% correct, always, cast the first stone.

What the silly critics are missing, is that Emerson's statement, was very meaningful, with or without his slight error. Birmingham DOES have many no-go zones. Hardly matters if ALL of it is no go, or just parts of it. NONE of it should be no go zones

William
01-26-2015, 09:46 PM
I'm sure we will soon see prot's ultimate proof....red print to start any minute now.....

LOL, I read each of his links in the OP, and not one is from a reputable news source. Like whoever heard of 'Patriot Update', or 'The Counter Jihad Report' or 'Frontpage Mag' ("Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.")? Totally childish, or what?

The Sharia is practiced by many Muslim communities throughout the world, but it has no power over British, Australian, or any European laws. It is a voluntary code, a bit like the Jewish Beth Din, and neither can go against the national laws.

This is what most Brits think about all the panic.


How we laughed, this weekend when Fox News security 'expert' Steve Emerson made his ludicrous claim that Birmingham was a “Muslim-only city". But strip away the laughter and what remains is a deeply dangerous thesis, rapidly gaining purchase in the US as established fact, that Europe is being progressively colonised by Muslims following some Islamic master plan.

With the repetition of this absurd canard by Nigel Farage yesterday, again on Fox News, it is now clear that this myth is spreading. It has jumped the Atlantic pond and, unless we are very careful, is about to infect our own politics with the same toxic mix of half-truth and downright ignorance.
http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2015/01/15/comment-the-myth-of-muslim-no-go-areas-is-being-used-to-turn
(http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2015/01/15/comment-the-myth-of-muslim-no-go-areas-is-being-used-to-turn)

The mayor of Paris plans to sue Fox News for its reporting on the city in the wake of the attack on the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo...

She was responding to remarks on Fox News that there were “no-go zones” in Paris where non-Muslims and even police were afraid to go. Fox and Friends even broadcast a map outlining seven such zones...

Previously, Steve Emerson, a “terrorism expert” talking-head also on Fox News, went one step further, labelling Birmingham – a city of more than a million people – as being a place where “non-Muslims simply don’t go in”...

UK prime minister David Cameron told ITV news that he “choked on his porridge” when he first heard the comments, before saying that Emerson was “clearly an idiot”.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/20/paris-mayor-anne-hidalgo-muslim-no-go-zones

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:46 PM
YOU are a waste of MY time. You know NOTHING about this subject or anything else about Islamization. Want to take my Islamization Quiz and find out how much you don't know ? Of course not. You know if you did you'd be exposed for the Islamization know-nothing, and FRAUD that you are. So keep talking, while you cowardly punk out from the Quiz. In the meantime, you get a ZERO on it by default.

You are a pathetic nutjob. I doubt anyone takes you seriously.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:47 PM
What kind of total moron applauds and excuses disgusting, stinking muslims who want them dead? Oh yeah, LIBERALS.

What kind of total moron believes in the existence of Islamic "no-go" zones in America? Oh, yea, PROTECTIONIST.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:49 PM
Their ludicrous ideology (masquerading as a religion) shouldn't even be allowed in America at all. Not only should the enclaves be shut down, but so should every mosque, and every Koran should be removed from every library, school, bookstore, etc. That's because Islam is ILLEGAL in the US, and has been for 226 years, by virtue of Article 6, Section 2 of the Constitution (the Supremacy Clause), as well as US Codes 2384 & 2385 (Seditious Conspiracy & Overthrow of Govt)

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:49 PM
Their ludicrous ideology (masquerading as a religion) shouldn't even be allowed in America at all. Not only should the enclaves be shut down, but so should every mosque, and every Koran should be removed from every library, school, bookstore, etc. That's because Islam is ILLEGAL in the US, and has been for 226 years, by virtue of Article 6, Section 2 of the Constitution (the Supremacy Clause), as well as US Codes 2384 & 2385 (Seditious Conspiracy & Overthrow of Govt)

If anyone shouldn't be allowed in America, it's lunatics like you. You are a dangerous, dishonest, hysterical fraud.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:50 PM
Here are some suggestions for what could be done with the former Muslim buildings and land in the no go zone enclaves. The enclaves would be destroyed, of course, but there's no need to destroy perfectly good buildings.
The could be cleaned up, and gutted, and restored as any one of a variety of useful things. Homeless shelters, animal shelters, low cost or free medical/dental clinics for those without insurance, libraries (without Korans of course), nightclubs, parks, ice skating (in northern states), bowling alleys, batting cages, golf courses.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 09:50 PM
He's pretty funny tho. Especially when he uses the ALL CAPS and sends us to Islamic sites that sell generic viagra.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:52 PM
If anyone shouldn't be allowed in America, it's lunatics like you. You are a dangerous, dishonest, hysterical fraud.

What a coincidence! That's exactly what I was thinking about YOU. Except I'll add coward, ignoramus, and Islamist to the list.

maineman
01-26-2015, 09:52 PM
Islam is illegal in the US?

wow.

someone opened the doors to the nuthouse, and a whole bunch of crazy folk made it out of there and onto here.

I am stunned.... stunned and giggling, to be sure, but stunned.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:53 PM
If American courts were not under threat of Sharia law we would not be having to fight for ALAC to be put through. What is ALAC? American Law for American Courtrooms. One would think this is a given but because of Sharia trying to come in - we are forced to shut it out with ALAC. Once again, the OP is right, and people shouldn't get hung up on the details. The agenda is clear. Their prophet gave them the command from the beginning to dominate the world (Islam) and this is one way they are trying to take over.

France should send their military into the no go zones and shut them down, and the US govt should do the same here - deport those who are there to Islamic Sharia Law Nations where they will feel more at home. That is the way to handle it.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 09:53 PM
He's pretty funny tho. Especially when he uses the ALL CAPS and sends us to Islamic sites that sell generic viagra.

Woah now, don't undersell it. It's also cheap and without a prescription!

maineman
01-26-2015, 09:54 PM
protectionist. I have some questions for you: have you personally ever been prevented from entering any muslim neighborhoods in America? Have you ever been to a muslim neighborhood in America? Have you ever met a muslim American citizen?

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 09:54 PM
What a coincidence! That's exactly what I was thinking about YOU. Except I'll add coward, ignoramus, and Islamist to the list.

I'm sure you'll show us from the legal code of Dearborn the Sharia-style laws since I provided you with the link and everything.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 09:55 PM
Woah now, don't undersell it. It's also cheap and without a prescription!

God bless Sharia!

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ah0VsnHU0Y&x-yt-ts=1422040409&feature=player_embedded&x-yt-cl=84637285

maineman
01-26-2015, 09:55 PM
Woah now, don't undersell it. It's also cheap and without a prescription!

come to Mexico. you can get ANY prescription drug with the exception of narcotics and antibiotics over the counter with no prescription needed.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:56 PM
Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/members/863-Alyosha) is on my ignore list. I haven't seen anything she's posted.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 09:58 PM
Islam is illegal in the US?

.

no, but I wish it could be.

maineman
01-26-2015, 09:58 PM
Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/members/863-Alyosha) is on my ignore list. I haven't seen anything she's posted.

I guess if you can't stand the heat, you should get out of the kitchen, perhaps.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 09:58 PM
Did you see where the Muslim refuses entry to the Islamic Jihadist camp he is guarding? He threatens them with violence and says Go! Go! He is telling them they cannot enter there and as the car is driving away he is beating it with a bat. It is what is known as a no - go zone for those who are unaware of no go zones in America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ah0VsnHU0Y&x-yt-cl=84637285&x-yt-ts=1422040409&feature=player_embedded

You want to know why this is going on? Because our government refuses to do anything about it when the FBI and law enforcement report on it. They would rather bury the evidence than deal with it. That's why. If Americans ever permit themselves to be stripped of 2nd Amendment rights - it will be an open slaughter. It's what they are waiting for. Rent the movie Rwanda and realize that is what happens to unarmed citizens in a Muslim take over - In Rwanda the Hutu Muslims slaughtering Tutsi Christians had machetes - in America? They have AK - 47's. Time to wake up.

maineman
01-26-2015, 09:58 PM
no, but I wish it could be.

if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 09:59 PM
What a coincidence! That's exactly what I was thinking about YOU. Except I'll add coward, ignoramus, and Islamist to the list.

Unlike you, I've actually been to war and fought against AQ. You are just a loudmouth SOB with too much time on his hands.

Common
01-26-2015, 10:00 PM
Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/members/863-Alyosha) is on my ignore list. I haven't seen anything she's posted.

I dont blame ya, she would blow your brains out with facts, actually thats a good move on your part.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 10:01 PM
Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/members/863-Alyosha) is on my ignore list. I haven't seen anything she's posted.

That may be a mistake.

There are a lot of libs just as bad as her posting here and I think we learn more by reading their insane bs than by ignoring them.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:01 PM
Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/members/863-Alyosha) is on my ignore list. I haven't seen anything she's posted.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/4f0bd9a81b9e69baea8925a1bbf1de5c/tumblr_mne0qbTGUn1rosb88o1_500.gif



Devastated!

iustitia
01-26-2015, 10:03 PM
Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/members/863-Alyosha) is on my ignore list. I haven't seen anything she's posted.

https://33.media.tumblr.com/4f0bd9a81b9e69baea8925a1bbf1de5c/tumblr_mne0qbTGUn1rosb88o1_500.gif



Devastated!

Alyosha's devastated, @protectionist (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1054).

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:03 PM
Islam is illegal in the US?

wow.

someone opened the doors to the nuthouse, and a whole bunch of crazy folk made it out of there and onto here.

I am stunned.... stunned and giggling, to be sure, but stunned.

What's the matter ? Don't you understand the Constitution ? It includes the Supremacy Clause (Article 6, Section 2) which bans all supremacist ideologies (Islam included) Try reading the Constitution, and then you won't have to be "stunned"

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding."

As I already stated early in the thread, the 1st amendment is perhaps the weakest part of the Constitution, riddled with exceptions. In contrast, the Supremacy Clause (Article 6, Section 2) is the strongest part of the Constitution, and it has never had any exceptions (for 226 years), and that hasn't changed just for Islam, which is not a religion, and it wouldn't matter if it was. Nothing trumps the Constitution, including religions.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 10:05 PM
This is how the military-industrial complex is a thing. It thrives off paranoid hysterical idiots.

maineman
01-26-2015, 10:06 PM
nothing about Islam prevents the duly constituted government of the US from enforcing the constitution as the supreme law of the land.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:08 PM
Unlike you, I've actually been to war and fought against AQ. You are just a loudmouth SOB with too much time on his hands.

Nope. I'm a veteran too, and did see some combat > riots in the National Guard, after 2 years in the US Army. And if you challenged me with a quiz of some kind, I'd take it. I wouldn't punk out from it, like you're doing now, and trying to cover it up with you veteran status, MR QUIZ ZERO.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:10 PM
Nope. I'm a veteran too, and did see some combat > riots in the National Guard, after 2 years in the US Army. And if you challenged me with a quiz of some kind, I'd take it. I wouldn't punk out from it, like you're doing now, and trying to cover it up with you veteran status, MR QUIZ ZERO.

http://www.dragofficial.com/uploads/1/9/3/9/19395567/1120985_orig.gif

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:11 PM
nothing about Islam prevents the duly constituted government of the US from enforcing the constitution as the supreme law of the land.

That's correct. And that the existing ban on Islam from the Supremacy Clause has not been enforced for 226 years, does not in any way stop the US govt from enforcing that Article 6, Section 2, right now. The founding fathers put it there to PROTECT us from supremacism. They didn't put it there for their health.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:12 PM
This is how the military-industrial complex is a thing. It thrives off paranoid hysterical idiots.

Neville Chamberlin would be proud. http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Ethereal
01-26-2015, 10:12 PM
Nope. I'm a veteran too, and did see some combat > riots in the National Guard, after 2 years in the US Army. And if you challenged me with a quiz of some kind, I'd take it. I wouldn't punk out from it, like you're doing now, and trying to cover it up with you veteran status, MR QUIZ ZERO.

You probably saw it from behind your desk.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:12 PM
That's correct. And that the existing ban on Islam from the Supremacy Clause has not been enforced for 226 years, does not in any way stop the US govt from enforcing that Article 6, Section 2, right now. The founding fathers put it there to PROTECT us from supremacism. They didn't put it there for their health.


http://24.media.tumblr.com/a7c09aca5bb37365f093f2d2f04537a9/tumblr_mszfdbZc691rosb88o1_500.gif

This is fun!

iustitia
01-26-2015, 10:14 PM
Nope. I'm a veteran too, and did see some combat > riots in the National Guard, after 2 years in the US Army. And if you challenged me with a quiz of some kind, I'd take it. I wouldn't punk out from it, like you're doing now, and trying to cover it up with you veteran status, MR QUIZ ZERO.http://www.dragofficial.com/uploads/1/9/3/9/19395567/1120985_orig.gif
protectionist you look like shit and it's not funny evidently.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:14 PM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/28b3927420bb638c95396f754755db70/tumblr_mjwqq1rNRa1rjble0o1_500.gif



Neville Chamberlin would be proud.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 10:17 PM
http://www.dragofficial.com/uploads/1/9/3/9/19395567/1120985_orig.gif

She does not look so great either.

I'm guessing about 25 going on 40.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 10:17 PM
Neville Chamberlin would be proud. :icon_biggrin:

Neville Chamberlain declared war you fucking idiot.



That's correct. And that the existing ban on Islam from the Supremacy Clause has not been enforced for 226 years, does not in any way stop the US govt from enforcing that Article 6, Section 2, right now. The founding fathers put it there to PROTECT us from supremacism. They didn't put it there for their health.http://24.media.tumblr.com/a7c09aca5bb37365f093f2d2f04537a9/tumblr_mszfdbZc691rosb88o1_500.gif

This is fun!

Alyosha thinks you should have a seat, protectionist.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:17 PM
You probably saw it from behind your desk.

Only thing I'm seeing from behind my desk is a coward who refuses to do what 30-40 other Islamapologists have done. They took a shot at the quiz. None of them got better than 5% (most got zero). But at least they took a shot at it, and didn't sit around like a gutless coward, afraid of it.

maineman
01-26-2015, 10:18 PM
That's correct. And that the existing ban on Islam from the Supremacy Clause has not been enforced for 226 years, does not in any way stop the US govt from enforcing that Article 6, Section 2, right now. The founding fathers put it there to PROTECT us from supremacism. They didn't put it there for their health.

Muslims think their faith is the correct one, just like Christians do.... nothing about how they practice their faith is an affront to the Constitution or, in any way, ILLEGAL or UNCONSTITUTIONAL

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:19 PM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/28b3927420bb638c95396f754755db70/tumblr_mjwqq1rNRa1rjble0o1_500.gif



Only thing I'm seeing from behind my desk is a coward who refuses to do what 30-40 other Islamapologists have done. They took a shot at the quiz. None of them got better than 5% (most got zero). But at least they took a shot at it, and didn't sit around like a gutless coward, afraid of it.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 10:19 PM
She does not look so great either.

I'm guessing about 25 going on 40.

...

Good enough to fool you apparently...

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:19 PM
Neville Chamberlain declared war you $#@!ing idiot.

Alyosha thinks you should have a seat, @protectionist (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1054).

Neville Chamberlain appeased Hitler, instead of standing up to him. Like you do with jihadists. And I give a rats ass what Alyosha wants.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:20 PM
...

Good enough to fool you apparently...

Come on that's Mac's type of gal!

maineman
01-26-2015, 10:20 PM
yo...projectionist.... care to answer these?


protectionist. I have some questions for you: have you personally ever been prevented from entering any muslim neighborhoods in America? Have you ever been to a muslim neighborhood in America? Have you ever met a muslim American citizen?

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:20 PM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/28b3927420bb638c95396f754755db70/tumblr_mjwqq1rNRa1rjble0o1_500.gif



Neville Chamberlain appeased Hitler, instead of standing up to him. Like you do with jihadists. And I give a rats ass what Alyosha wants.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 10:20 PM
...

Good enough to fool you apparently...

Too much speed or paint in a paper bag.

libs have no respect for themselves much less others.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:21 PM
Muslims think their faith is the correct one, just like Christians do.... nothing about how they practice their faith is an affront to the Constitution or, in any way, ILLEGAL or UNCONSTITUTIONAL

Of course it is. It is a supremacism, you boob. And it's not a "faith".. Islam is a violent, immoral ideology masquerading as a religion.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 10:22 PM
Neville Chamberlain appeased Hitler, instead of standing up to him. Like you do with jihadists. And I give a rats ass what Alyosha wants.

He declared war on him. And 'appeasement' deprived Hitler of an ethnic war of vengeance. You are retarded.

Common
01-26-2015, 10:22 PM
There are flaws in both sides of this argument. Other than WW2 no other enemy has attacked us on our own soil and murdered americans <911> There is no doubt there is recruiting going on inside the country turning americans into traitors.

Do I believe theres no go zones all over the place, NO I do not and I do not believe all muslims are bad people. The problem is no one has ever been able to tell me how to identify a good muslim from one that wants to cut my head off. So I guess you can understand my having reservations about embracing all of them.

I think both sides make good points and both sides take their side to an extreme, I dont believe we have to worry about all muslims and no go zones but I do believe we must be vigilant and concerned about muslims that are here and realize what some are capable of.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:23 PM
yo...projectionist.... care to answer these?

1. No.

2. No.

3. Many.

PS - notice how I don't punk out from a quiz.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:26 PM
He declared war on him. And 'appeasement' deprived Hitler of an ethnic war of vengeance. You are retarded.
Stop talking stupid. Chamberlain is KNOWN for his appeasement of Hitler in the late 30s in Munich, I think I recall it was. But what is a thread with islamapologist liberals without a few rewritings of history, right ?

PS- this isn't a history thread, so get back on topic and stay there.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 10:27 PM
Come on that's Mac's type of gal!

Boy was I wrong!

http://www.peoplesniper.com/image/people/small/1212/murica-its-just-murica-diabetes-obese-people-pic-1354895306.jpg

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:27 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/74/33/cd/7433cd1758e8e1e3870cdc28cb0d0d32.jpg



Stop talking stupid. Chamberlain is KNOWN for his appeasement of Hitler in the late 30s in Munich, I think I recall it was. But what is a thread with islamapologist liberals without a few rewritings of history, right ?

PS- thias isn't a history thread, so get back on topic and stay there.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:27 PM
There are flaws in both sides of this argument. Other than WW2 no other enemy has attacked us on our own soil and murdered americans <911> There is no doubt there is recruiting going on inside the country turning americans into traitors.

Do I believe theres no go zones all over the place, NO I do not and I do not believe all muslims are bad people. The problem is no one has ever been able to tell me how to identify a good muslim from one that wants to cut my head off. So I guess you can understand my having reservations about embracing all of them.

I think both sides make good points and both sides take their side to an extreme, I dont believe we have to worry about all muslims and no go zones but I do believe we must be vigilant and concerned about muslims that are here and realize what some are capable of.

Have you seen the videos of the U enclaves ?

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:30 PM
Have you seen the videos of the U enclaves ?

http://misterscandal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/willam-belli-beatdown-mister-scandal1.gif

iustitia
01-26-2015, 10:39 PM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/28b3927420bb638c95396f754755db70/tumblr_mjwqq1rNRa1rjble0o1_500.gif
protectionist, is it true that you're a bottom, boy?

protectionist
01-26-2015, 10:40 PM
The jihadists who we capture from the enclaves should be interrogated to the point of having their brains fall out. Anybody see Jack Bauer ripping up those ragheads in the CTU interrogation room ? I can think of a better way to get them to talk. Put them in a cage next to a hungry grizzly bear with their arm sticking into the big boy's cage. Let him chew on the arm for a while. If the jihad loons really want to go see Allah and get their 72 virgins, let's have them do it the hard way - if they won't give us the information we need (TO SAVE INNOCENT LIVES)

BTW - Hey ragheads! They made a mistake about those 72 virgins.
It wasn't 72 virgins. It was one virgin. 72 YEARS OLD. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/smiley_ROFLMAO.gif (http://www.usmessageboard.com/javascript<strong></strong>:void(0))

iustitia
01-26-2015, 10:42 PM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/74/33/cd/7433cd1758e8e1e3870cdc28cb0d0d32.jpg
protectionist I've been informed that it's like a Taiwanese gentleman using an oversized condom, in that they're not compatible. Your thoughts?

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:43 PM
The jihadists who we capture from the enclaves should be interrogated to the point of having their brains fall out. Anybody see Jack Bauer ripping up those ragheads in the CTU interrogation room ? I can think of a better way to get them to talk. Put them in a cage next to a hungry grizzly bear with their arm sticking into the big boy's cage. Let him chew on the arm for a while. If the jihad loons really want to go see Allah and get their 72 virgins, let's have them do it the hard way - if they won't give us the information we need (TO SAVE INNOCENT LIVES)

BTW - Hey ragheads! They made a mistake about those 72 virgins.
It wasn't 72 virgins. It was one virgin. 72 YEARS OLD. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/smiley_ROFLMAO.gif (http://www.usmessageboard.com/javascript<strong></strong>:void(0))


http://www.dragofficial.com/uploads/1/9/3/9/19395567/8072950_orig.gif

Common
01-26-2015, 10:44 PM
Have you seen the videos of the U enclaves ?

No I havent

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 10:46 PM
No I havent

Because they don't exist :roflmao:

Common
01-26-2015, 10:47 PM
That may be a mistake.

There are a lot of libs just as bad as her posting here and I think we learn more by reading their insane bs than by ignoring them.

Yeah and youre just the brightest bulb on the tree arent you LMAO

iustitia
01-26-2015, 10:47 PM
http://www.dragofficial.com/uploads/1/9/3/9/19395567/8072950_orig.gif
protectionist, she seems to be finished with your tootsie faggot ass. I think in this circumstance you should either say "thank you" or "more please" depending on your point of view.

maineman
01-26-2015, 11:10 PM
Of course it is. It is a supremacism, you boob. And it's not a "faith".. Islam is a violent, immoral ideology masquerading as a religion.

again... many very intelligent people disagree with you. And why haven't you answered my questions? have you ever been refused entrance to any muslim neighborhood in the US? Have you ever been to a muslim neighborhood in the US? Have you ever met a muslim? Have you ever been outside the US? Do you even have a passport? Do you have your GED?

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:27 PM
@protectionist (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1054) I've been informed that it's like a Taiwanese gentleman using an oversized condom, in that they're not compatible. Your thoughts?
Well, since the thread is about Islamists segregating themselves from American society because of their extreme incompatiblity with that American society, I'd simply say, yes, they are as incompatible as could be. And when they train young jihadists to fight and kill Americans as they been doing (see the videos), then they've brought incompatibility to new heights.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 11:30 PM
Well, since the thread is about Islamists segregating themselves from American society because of their extreme incompatiblity with that American society, I'd simply say, yes, they are as incompatible as could be. And when they train young jihadists to fight and kill Americans as they been doing (see the videos), then they've brought incompatibility to new heights.

Ew, dude. Not everything has to be about sex. Could you be more lowbrow?

PolWatch
01-26-2015, 11:30 PM
'(Note; other 2 forums did - this forum is deficient)'

you're a busy little boy...posting this same drivel on 3 forums...any better luck getting other folks to believe it?

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:31 PM
@protectionist (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1054), she seems to be finished with your tootsie $#@! ass. I think in this circumstance you should either say "thank you" or "more please" depending on your point of view.

I'd say it doesn't deserve the dignity of a response (other than just to say that) http://www.usmessageboard.com/styles/smilies/slap.gif

iustitia
01-26-2015, 11:33 PM
I'd say it doesn't deserve the dignity of a response (other than just to say that) http://www.usmessageboard.com/styles/smilies/slap.gif

Ew, gross dude. There are young people here. You need to control yourself. Amirite, @Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)?

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:34 PM
again... many very intelligent people disagree with you. And why haven't you answered my questions? have you ever been refused entrance to any muslim neighborhood in the US? Have you ever been to a muslim neighborhood in the US? Have you ever met a muslim? Have you ever been outside the US? Do you even have a passport? Do you have your GED?

On the Supremacy Clause there is no agreement or disagreement. The Constitution's supremacy is FACT, not opinion.

Other than that, I'm not here to grant your wishes, Mr. Question Mark.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:35 PM
Ew, gross dude. There are young people here. You need to control yourself. Amirite, @Alyosha (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=863)?

Yeah. You're perfectly right. For someone without sanity.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 11:36 PM
Yeah. You're perfectly right. For someone without sanity.

Fucking gross, bro. That's not appropriate for a forum.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:41 PM
$#@!ing gross, bro. That's not appropriate for a forum.

Please don't say "gross" to me. It makes you be....."gross"

maineman
01-26-2015, 11:42 PM
On the Supremacy Clause there is no agreement or disagreement. The Constitution's supremacy is FACT, not opinion.

Other than that, I'm not here to grant your wishes, Mr. Question Mark.

and as much as you would like to think otherwise, nothing in Islam attempts to circumvent or contravene the Constitution. I only ask you those questions because it seems to me that you have not really thought out your opposition to Islam...apparently have no personal experiences with Islam that would cause you to be negatively predisposed to them, and seem to be parroting the thoughts and beliefs of some philosophical mentor of yours without a lot of filtering.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:45 PM
What the Senators, Congressmen, Governors need to push for is the Military to go in and find Sheik Gehlani and find out why he is writing poems encouraging the mass murder of American citizens which he refers to as Kafirs.

Then all the Muslims who have been living on his compounds and have been training in jihad, should be taken to Gitmo for investigation, and if there is nothing there? Send them back to the country they came from. It is sheer insanity to permit over 2 dozen jihadist training camps on American soil to continue on until the day they use their skills against the American people. They need to find out who these people are and the Pakistani leader definitely needs to be investigated

iustitia
01-26-2015, 11:46 PM
Please don't say "gross" to me. It makes you be....."gross"

Would you please stop posting graphic, immature pictures and messages? Seriously.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:47 PM
and as much as you would like to think otherwise, nothing in Islam attempts to circumvent or contravene the Constitution. I only ask you those questions because it seems to me that you have not really thought out your opposition to Islam...apparently have no personal experiences with Islam that would cause you to be negatively predisposed to them, and seem to be parroting the thoughts and beliefs of some philosophical mentor of yours without a lot of filtering.

You don't know that Islam is a SUPREMACIST ideology ?

EARTH TO MAINEMAN: It IS the MOST supremacist ideology that has ever existed in human history.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:48 PM
Would you please stop posting graphic, immature pictures and messages? Seriously.

Get on topic or shut the hell up. No one wants to hear your idiocy, trollpunk.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 11:50 PM
You don't know that Islam is a SUPREMACIST ideology ?

EARTH TO MAINEMAN: It IS the MOST supremacist ideology that has ever existed in human history.

http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1365706390403697_animate.gif

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:50 PM
Now what is needed is a clearer definition of what is a no go zone. I believe people are getting hung up on the terminology rather than examining the danger that Americans are facing right now.

PolWatch
01-26-2015, 11:51 PM
^^^love the hat!

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:52 PM
The Somali Muslims are definitely on the watch list I would think. They are in the Falls church, VA enclave. Somalia was a hot zone for the most radical Muslims - consider the Hutu Muslims of Rwanda from 94' and the ISIS butchers in Iraq moving into your cities and you don't know who is who. It's a recipe for disaster. D.C. had better keep their eye on them. They know who is who. The FBI is not stupid.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:52 PM
The maps show enclaves in Orlando and Tampa, Florida. I will be calling my state legislators today to ask them to consider deploying the state police and National Guard, to gut these cancers, and get rid of them.

iustitia
01-26-2015, 11:53 PM
You don't know that Islam is a SUPREMACIST ideology ?

EARTH TO MAINEMAN: It IS the MOST supremacist ideology that has ever existed in human history.


http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1365706390403697_animate.gif
@protectionist (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1054), Alyosha is sick of your attitude. Just an FYI.

Mac-7
01-26-2015, 11:54 PM
http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1365706390403697_animate.gif

Where do libs find these stupid video clips?

They must hang around some extremely retarded websites.

PolWatch
01-26-2015, 11:54 PM
The maps show enclaves in Orlando and Tampa, Florida. I will be calling my state legislators today to ask them to consider deploying the state police and National Guard, to gut these cancers, and get rid of them.

I'm sure your state legislators will give your recommendations the attention it deserves....
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608000750600585737&w=92&h=71&c=7&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=smiley+rolling+on+floor+laughing&id=E7A35715C88373ABC7961DA96FD2608A3B2F5797&FORM=IQFRBA)

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:55 PM
Acknowledging Sharia law by installing foot baths at airports, provisions for taxi cab drivers that discriminate against certain passengers, separate work out rooms, swimming pools for Muslim women is actually permitting Sharia law to be followed. It should never happen. If they want Sharia law then let them move to an Islamic State that rules by Sharia law. America's law for America's courtrooms. American Constitution - abide by - or leave.

Alyosha
01-26-2015, 11:55 PM
The maps show enclaves in Orlando and Tampa, Florida. I will be calling my state legislators today to ask them to consider deploying the state police and National Guard, to gut these cancers, and get rid of them.

http://www.votersopinion.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Alexis-Carrington.jpg

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:57 PM
What about the US military that has been gunned down here in America? The American sniper and his closest buddy - also a sniper were both shot in the back while trying to help out a young man who it appears had converted to Islam. What was their mistake? Turning their back on the enemy and not realizing WHO the enemy was. Interesting fact - they didn't call the ambulance for 3 hours after both men were shot - there had been 3 other snipers killed by gunfire on that range before them. Coincidence? I think not. We've got the enemy living here in America and even our gun ranges are no longer safe.
http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2013/02/04/suspect_c0-139-1000-721_s326x190.jpg?e1067ec1d047d342b4f82c2a0f9524d2e f4cf83a
This is Eddie Routh. Man who confessed to murdering Kris Kyle - the American Sniper which Hollywood turned his story into a movie -it is no 1 box office hit - he also murdered his military buddy who was on the range with him. Both men had their backs turned to Eddie Routh when they were shot in the back. There was no call for an ambulance until 3 hours after the shooting. Note the uneven new beard he was growing at time of shooting? There are some military who suspect Routh was a recent convert to Islam. Needless to say the sniper called the legend was a high target for the terrorists and they were looking for a way to kill him. Perhaps this is how they got away with it. It was the 3rd or 4th such murder by gunfire on that shooting range of one of our military guys. Highly suspicious. I would advise ex military to look elsewhere for target practice. Our gun ranges are no longer safe or private. Times have changed. 57 Navy Seals have been killed since 9/11. Kris Kyle makes 58.

protectionist
01-26-2015, 11:58 PM
Ad hominem, hollow, silly attack posts have about as much impact as a rock in the bottom of a pond. I, et al here, have given SUBSTANCE (with links) to the notion of busting up the no go zone enclaves. And in response, we get a bunch of Islamists mouthing off worthless, hot air rhetoric. This thread is as powerful now as when the OP when first written, and plenty more than that now. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/yepp.gif

del
01-26-2015, 11:59 PM
Acknowledging Sharia law by installing foot baths at airports, provisions for taxi cab drivers that discriminate against certain passengers, separate work out rooms, swimming pools for Muslim women is actually permitting Sharia law to be followed. It should never happen. If they want Sharia law then let them move to an Islamic State that rules by Sharia law. America's law for America's courtrooms. American Constitution - abide by - or leave.

no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace

PolWatch
01-26-2015, 11:59 PM
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace
no foot baths, no peace

smelly feet is an American right!

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 12:00 AM
What about the US military that has been gunned down here in America? The American sniper and his closest buddy - also a sniper were both shot in the back while trying to help out a young man who it appears had converted to Islam. What was their mistake? Turning their back on the enemy and not realizing WHO the enemy was. Interesting fact - they didn't call the ambulance for 3 hours after both men were shot - there had been 3 other snipers killed by gunfire on that range before them. Coincidence? I think not. We've got the enemy living here in America and even our gun ranges are no longer safe.
http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2013/02/04/suspect_c0-139-1000-721_s326x190.jpg?e1067ec1d047d342b4f82c2a0f9524d2e f4cf83a
This is Eddie Routh. Man who confessed to murdering Kris Kyle - the American Sniper which Hollywood turned his story into a movie -it is no 1 box office hit - he also murdered his military buddy who was on the range with him. Both men had their backs turned to Eddie Routh when they were shot in the back. There was no call for an ambulance until 3 hours after the shooting. Note the uneven new beard he was growing at time of shooting? There are some military who suspect Routh was a recent convert to Islam. Needless to say the sniper called the legend was a high target for the terrorists and they were looking for a way to kill him. Perhaps this is how they got away with it. It was the 3rd or 4th such murder by gunfire on that shooting range of one of our military guys. Highly suspicious. I would advise ex military to look elsewhere for target practice. Our gun ranges are no longer safe or private. Times have changed. 57 Navy Seals have been killed since 9/11. Kris Kyle makes 58.


Holy Shit, if you have a beard now you're a Muslim????

Muslim

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Diego+Luna+Cesar+Chavez+Press+Conference+Berlin+Bf d_wTxvOgXl.jpg


Muslim

http://media.salon.com/2013/02/american_sniper2.jpg


Muslim

http://www.godisreal.today/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/jesus-christ7-740x405.jpg

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:00 AM
yo...projectionist.... care to answer these?

http://www.hip-hopvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Sway-answers-2.jpg

protectionist
01-27-2015, 12:00 AM
Did somebody say there wasn't a no go zone enclave in Falls Church, VA. just the most dangerous one, that's all.


Johari Abdul-Malik (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2286) is outreach director for the Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, VA, which Paul Sperry has called (http://www.amazon.com/Infiltration-Muslim-Subversives-Penetrated-Washington/dp/1595550038) America's most dangerous mosque due to its extensive terror ties (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/26/AR2008022603267.html). Malik publicly supported (http://archives2005.ghazali.net/html/muslim_cleric_found_guilty.html) Ali Al-Timimi, a Virginia-based cleric convicted of inciting his followers to wage war against the United States. In response to the arrest of Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, a congregant now serving time (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4461642.stm) for plotting to assassinate President Bush, Abdul-Malik simply lamented (http://pewforum.org/news/display.php?NewsID=4456) that "our whole community is under siege."

FBI watching Somali Muslims in D.C. (http://www.wnd.com/2009/05/98997/)

Articles Legendary Songwriter Now Marches to an Islamist Tune (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/11/legendary_songwriter_now_march.html)

Infiltration How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington Paul Sperry 9781595550033 Amazon.com Books (http://www.amazon.com/Infiltration-Muslim-Subversives-Penetrated-Washington/dp/1595550038)

Imam From Va. Mosque Now Thought to Have Aided Al-Qaeda (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/26/AR2008022603267.html)

Muslim cleric found guilty (http://archives2005.ghazali.net/html/muslim_cleric_found_guilty.html)

The way some try to distort the truth and cover up the mountains of information we're supplying here, is very characteristic of jihadist Muslims, engaging in deceitful taqiyya. So go ahead, Mohammeds. Squirm all you like. The truth is out there, and in this thread, and there's nothing you can do about it. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:03 AM
What about the US military that has been gunned down here in America? The American sniper and his closest buddy - also a sniper were both shot in the back while trying to help out a young man who it appears had converted to Islam. What was their mistake? Turning their back on the enemy and not realizing WHO the enemy was. Interesting fact - they didn't call the ambulance for 3 hours after both men were shot - there had been 3 other snipers killed by gunfire on that range before them. Coincidence? I think not. We've got the enemy living here in America and even our gun ranges are no longer safe.
http://media.washtimes.com/media/image/2013/02/04/suspect_c0-139-1000-721_s326x190.jpg?e1067ec1d047d342b4f82c2a0f9524d2e f4cf83a
This is Eddie Routh. Man who confessed to murdering Kris Kyle - the American Sniper which Hollywood turned his story into a movie -it is no 1 box office hit - he also murdered his military buddy who was on the range with him. Both men had their backs turned to Eddie Routh when they were shot in the back. There was no call for an ambulance until 3 hours after the shooting. Note the uneven new beard he was growing at time of shooting? There are some military who suspect Routh was a recent convert to Islam. Needless to say the sniper called the legend was a high target for the terrorists and they were looking for a way to kill him. Perhaps this is how they got away with it. It was the 3rd or 4th such murder by gunfire on that shooting range of one of our military guys. Highly suspicious. I would advise ex military to look elsewhere for target practice. Our gun ranges are no longer safe or private. Times have changed. 57 Navy Seals have been killed since 9/11. Kris Kyle makes 58.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/a9/a9ae493ede51c2549badc13ca687fd452b0024b1e4d704538a 0007607a32cafa.jpg

protectionist
01-27-2015, 12:06 AM
After we get the enclaves ripped up (but the buildings saved), I say we make them animal shelters for mostly homeless cats. They could also have provisions for spay & neuter clinic, and then release the cats back out , if they can't get adopted. The land could be made into public parks or sold in pieces to the public to bolster up the state treasuries.

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:06 AM
Did somebody say there wasn't a no go zone enclave in Falls Church, VA. just the most dangerous one, that's all.


Johari Abdul-Malik (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2286) is outreach director for the Dar Al-Hijrah Islamic Center in Falls Church, VA, which Paul Sperry has called (http://www.amazon.com/Infiltration-Muslim-Subversives-Penetrated-Washington/dp/1595550038) America's most dangerous mosque due to its extensive terror ties (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/26/AR2008022603267.html). Malik publicly supported (http://archives2005.ghazali.net/html/muslim_cleric_found_guilty.html) Ali Al-Timimi, a Virginia-based cleric convicted of inciting his followers to wage war against the United States. In response to the arrest of Ahmed Omar Abu Ali, a congregant now serving time (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4461642.stm) for plotting to assassinate President Bush, Abdul-Malik simply lamented (http://pewforum.org/news/display.php?NewsID=4456) that "our whole community is under siege."

FBI watching Somali Muslims in D.C. (http://www.wnd.com/2009/05/98997/)

Articles Legendary Songwriter Now Marches to an Islamist Tune (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2008/11/legendary_songwriter_now_march.html)

Infiltration How Muslim Spies and Subversives have Penetrated Washington Paul Sperry 9781595550033 Amazon.com Books (http://www.amazon.com/Infiltration-Muslim-Subversives-Penetrated-Washington/dp/1595550038)

Imam From Va. Mosque Now Thought to Have Aided Al-Qaeda (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/26/AR2008022603267.html)

Muslim cleric found guilty (http://archives2005.ghazali.net/html/muslim_cleric_found_guilty.html)

The way some try to distort the truth and cover up the mountains of information we're supplying here, is very characteristic of jihadist Muslims, engaging in deceitful taqiyya. So go ahead, Mohammeds. Squirm all you like. The truth is out there, and in this thread, and there's nothing you can do about it. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/484/OMMAOL.jpg

maineman
01-27-2015, 12:06 AM
And I would suggest that there is definitely something people can do - and are oviously doing - in response to you barrage of "information"... and that is to laugh at it.

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:07 AM
After we get the enclaves ripped up (but the buildings saved), I say we make them animal shelters for mostly homeless cats. They could also have provisions for spay & neuter clinic, and then release the cats back out , if they can't get adopted. The land could be made into public parks or sold in pieces to the public to bolster up the state treasuries.

http://rs1img.memecdn.com/muslim-bale_o_1413711.jpg

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 12:08 AM
After we get the enclaves ripped up (but the buildings saved), I say we make them animal shelters for mostly homeless cats. They could also have provisions for spay & neuter clinic, and then release the cats back out , if they can't get adopted. The land could be made into public parks or sold in pieces to the public to bolster up the state treasuries.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/ae037760a4df30ec5d08e060302a5210/tumblr_mmrh2nBE1L1sqghjko1_500.gif

protectionist
01-27-2015, 12:10 AM
I kind of like the idea of animal shelters (mostly for stray cats). These are always in short supply, and it would help to get the cats fixed, and keep the cat populations from getting too large, and out of control.

That reminds me. what do you think is the better idea of how to flush the jihadist dirtbags out of the enclaves ? Choose one of the following >>

1. State police

2. National Guard.

3. Pit bulls.

4. Biker gangs.

5. Skunks

I think I'd go with # 5 for starters .http://www.usmessageboard.com/styles/smilies/biggrin.gif http://www.usmessageboard.com/attachments/upload_2015-1-26_9-25-55-jpeg.36258/

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 12:10 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m06edwfD2K1rpbbq0o1_500.jpg

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:11 AM
I kind of like the idea of animal shelters (mostly for stray cats). These are always in short supply, and it would help to get the cats fixed, and keep the cat populations from getting too large, and out of control.

That reminds me. what do you think is the better idea of how to flush the jihadist dirtbags out of the enclaves ? Choose one of the following >>

1. State police

2. National Guard.

3. Pit bulls.

4. Biker gangs.

5. Skunks

I think I'd go with # 5 for starters .http://www.usmessageboard.com/styles/smilies/biggrin.gif http://www.usmessageboard.com/attachments/upload_2015-1-26_9-25-55-jpeg.36258/

https://islamwich.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/tally-ban.jpg

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 12:11 AM
http://i.imgur.com/XIxwqOW.jpg

protectionist
01-27-2015, 12:11 AM
And alternatively, well there's >>

http://thepoliticsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6912&d=1418261758&thumb=1 (http://thepoliticsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6912&d=1418261758) http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:11 AM
http://31.media.tumblr.com/ae037760a4df30ec5d08e060302a5210/tumblr_mmrh2nBE1L1sqghjko1_500.gif
protectionist I hear you have trouble controlling your weight.

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:12 AM
And alternatively, well there's >>

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/402/720/09a.jpg

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 12:13 AM
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/37/376c2880bf0a6197d67614266a2f8d1f583ebd159681135890 f6eec97038b44b.jpg

protectionist
01-27-2015, 12:13 AM
http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:14 AM
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/37/376c2880bf0a6197d67614266a2f8d1f583ebd159681135890 f6eec97038b44b.jpg

lol

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 12:14 AM
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/i-am-sikh-and-tired-of-being-called-a-muslim.jpg

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:14 AM
http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/1e/1ef822d005168326dbe4e459a689e004d195f08778602b0609 0726b45a15b999.jpg

protectionist
01-27-2015, 12:15 AM
lol

Doesn't look like much, but he's on the right track. More than I can say for the jimokes in this thread. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 12:16 AM
http://www.fb4islam.com/images/islamic memes muslim comment for facebook islam comments quotes graphics for facebook to share on fb status wall pinterest tumbler ummaland twitter funny wrong food not halal.jpg

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:17 AM
Doesn't look like much, but he's on the right track. More than I can say for the jimokes in this thread. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.troll.me/images/10-guy/how-stoned-are-you-muslim-women-in-bikini.jpg

PolWatch
01-27-2015, 12:18 AM
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608011518079205668&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 12:19 AM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/d8/d8b227650f61ce250b1a49b9e9af94c5441e9991f2d67f3902 890aaeee47eb55.jpg

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:20 AM
http://www.votersopinion.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Alexis-Carrington.jpg
protectionist, it would behoove you not to stand where you are.

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:20 AM
http://i.lvme.me/j2rxxxd.jpg

Alyosha
01-27-2015, 12:21 AM
http://urbanasian.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/slim-in-muslim.jpg



3-1-3 BITCHES!!!!!!

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:23 AM
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Ordinary+muslim+man+w+o+r+k+i+t_bc10da_3666042.jpg

PolWatch
01-27-2015, 12:23 AM
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608035677275684952&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

iustitia
01-27-2015, 12:26 AM
http://jokeoffice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/0cdaav0KvoW_460s.jpg