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Captain Obvious
02-02-2015, 08:08 AM
If this happened in the private sector, a CEO presented a spend-thrift budget to the BOD of a struggling company that CEO would be out on his ass by lunchtime.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/02/02/383149509/obamas-budget-proposal-lifts-2013-caps-adds-billions-in-spending


President Obama is calling for tens of billions of dollars in new government spending, setting up a clear contrast with the new Republican Congress.

The president's $3.99 trillion budget proposal, released Monday, would lift the automatic spending caps imposed in 2013.

"Let's take a scalpel and not a meat cleaver," Obama told Democratic members of Congress in Philadelphia last week. "And let's make sure that we're funding the things that we know help American families succeed. That's a smart thing to do."



http://moonbattery.com/Spend-like-drunken-sailors.jpg

donttread
02-02-2015, 08:34 AM
Why limit spending to revenue?

Captain Obvious
02-02-2015, 08:36 AM
Why limit spending to revenue?

Debt

hanger4
02-02-2015, 08:43 AM
I'm more impressed with the fact that Obama even released

a budget. Isn't this like the first or second budget proposal

this WH has even put to paper ?? Isn't it even constitutionally

mandated ??

Chris
02-02-2015, 08:44 AM
"And let's make sure that we're funding the things that we know help American families succeed."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhYJS80MgYA

Captain Obvious
02-02-2015, 08:46 AM
I'm more impressed with the fact that Obama even released

a budget. Isn't this like the first or second budget proposal

this WH has even put to paper ?? Isn't it even constitutionally

mandated ??

Great point.

I guess the blatant arrogance has worn off and not as much fun in lame duck as it was before.

Keep in mind though, he's trying to look as presidential as he can, for the benefit of the party and his "legacy".

Captain Obvious
02-02-2015, 08:47 AM
"And let's make sure that we're funding the things that we know help American families succeed."

Translation for the establishment liberal impaired:

"We need to fund entitlements as much as possible to keep the lower-class voters dependent on gubmint, ensuring the long-term success of the DNC"

evince
02-02-2015, 08:49 AM
guys he will go down in history as one of the greats.


the obstruction he has faced is at an all time historical level.



the history will be written that your republican party was having a racists ceasure for 8 years

Chris
02-02-2015, 08:49 AM
I'm more impressed with the fact that Obama even released

a budget. Isn't this like the first or second budget proposal

this WH has even put to paper ?? Isn't it even constitutionally

mandated ??


I think he was releasing them but the Dems were sitting on them rather than bringing them to a vote. Obstructionists!

hanger4
02-02-2015, 08:57 AM
guys he will go down in history as one of the greats.


the obstruction he has faced is at an all time historical level.



the history will be written that your republican party was having a racists ceasure for 8 years

Must be a snow day somewhere and the kids are stuck inside.

Captain Obvious
02-02-2015, 09:00 AM
Must be a snow day somewhere and the kids are stuck inside.

:biglaugh:

Was thinking the same thing.

He'll be here alllllllllday long too, until mom gets home from work at least.

evince
02-02-2015, 09:16 AM
Must be a snow day somewhere and the kids are stuck inside.

what you have not heard that this congress has been the most obstructive in history?



how can that be?

Captain Obvious
02-02-2015, 09:18 AM
what you have not heard that this congress has been the most obstructive in history?



how can that be?

You mean the primarily democratic congress. The GOP controlled congress is barely a month old.

evince
02-02-2015, 09:19 AM
so you don't even know you have controlled the house for years?


really?

Captain Obvious
02-02-2015, 09:23 AM
so you don't even know you have controlled the house for years?


really?

You realize "congress" isn't just the house, right?

Captain Obvious
02-02-2015, 09:23 AM
How did I get stuck babysitting this kid?

Where's Mac, he's better fool fodder.

evince
02-02-2015, 09:25 AM
congress is both when you talk of the entire system dude.


Now where is your proof the republicans on congress have been working with the rest of government to effect progress for our system?

evince
02-02-2015, 09:27 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/28/congress-unproductive_n_2371387.html




According to a Huffington Post review of all the bills (http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/legislation) that hit President Barack Obama's desk this session, Obama has signed 219 bills passed by the 112th Congress into law. With less than a week to go in the year, there are currently another 20 bills pending presidential action. In comparison, the last Congress passed 383 bills (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/28/15518240-congress-to-make-history-but-for-the-wrong-reason?lite), while the one before it passed 460.
The 104th Congress (1995-1996) currently (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/28/15518240-congress-to-make-history-but-for-the-wrong-reason?lite) holds the ignominious distinction of being the least productive session of Congress, according to the U.S. House Clerk's Office (http://library.clerk.house.gov/resume.aspx), which has records going back to 1947. Just 333 bills became law during that two-year period, meaning the 112th Congress needs to send nearly 100 more bills to Obama's desk in the next few days if it wants to avoid going down in history -- an unlikely prospect, considering that both chambers are squarely focused on averting the "fiscal cliff" before the new year.
The 112th Congress has done far less than the 80th Congress (1947-1948), which President Harry Truman infamously dubbed (http://www.trumanlibrary.org/publicpapers/index.php?pid=1956) the "Do-Nothing Congress." Those lawmakers passed 906 bills (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/28/15518240-congress-to-make-history-but-for-the-wrong-reason?lite) that became law.
While Obama has signed several pieces of large, consequential legislation in the past two years -- such as sanctions on Iran (http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2012/08/13/obama-signs-new-iran-sanctions-into-law/) and the National Defense Authorization Act (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/with-reservations-obama-signs-act-to-allow-detention-of-citizens/), allowing the indefinite detention of terrorism suspects without charge -- many of the bills passed by Congress have been small and noncontroversial.

hanger4
02-02-2015, 09:53 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/28/congress-unproductive_n_2371387.html




According to a Huffington Post review of all the bills (http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/legislation) that hit President Barack Obama's desk this session, Obama has signed 219 bills passed by the 112th Congress into law. With less than a week to go in the year, there are currently another 20 bills pending presidential action. In comparison, the last Congress passed 383 bills (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/28/15518240-congress-to-make-history-but-for-the-wrong-reason?lite), while the one before it passed 460.
The 104th Congress (1995-1996) currently (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/28/15518240-congress-to-make-history-but-for-the-wrong-reason?lite) holds the ignominious distinction of being the least productive session of Congress, according to the U.S. House Clerk's Office (http://library.clerk.house.gov/resume.aspx), which has records going back to 1947. Just 333 bills became law during that two-year period, meaning the 112th Congress needs to send nearly 100 more bills to Obama's desk in the next few days if it wants to avoid going down in history -- an unlikely prospect, considering that both chambers are squarely focused on averting the "fiscal cliff" before the new year.
The 112th Congress has done far less than the 80th Congress (1947-1948), which President Harry Truman infamously dubbed (http://www.trumanlibrary.org/publicpapers/index.php?pid=1956) the "Do-Nothing Congress." Those lawmakers passed 906 bills (http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/28/15518240-congress-to-make-history-but-for-the-wrong-reason?lite) that became law.
While Obama has signed several pieces of large, consequential legislation in the past two years -- such as sanctions on Iran (http://blogs.wsj.com/corruption-currents/2012/08/13/obama-signs-new-iran-sanctions-into-law/) and the National Defense Authorization Act (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/with-reservations-obama-signs-act-to-allow-detention-of-citizens/), allowing the indefinite detention of terrorism suspects without charge -- many of the bills passed by Congress have been small and noncontroversial.

Why do we ignore Harry Reid's 113th Senate ??

evince
02-02-2015, 09:58 AM
they didn't.


why do you pretend they didn't factor them in?



because you don't like the truth

hanger4
02-02-2015, 10:03 AM
they didn't.


why do you pretend they didn't factor them in?



because you don't like the truth

Seeing as how your HuffPo link is dated 12/28/2012 I'm pretty

sure they DIDN'T factor the 113th in. Of course they could be

Psychic, ya think ??

Cigar
02-02-2015, 10:06 AM
"And let's make sure that we're funding the things that we know help American families succeed."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhYJS80MgYA


Undeniable Fact: Ronald Reagan Raised Taxes 11 times as President of The United States :grin:

evince
02-02-2015, 10:06 AM
dude did they serve while Obama was president?


you republicans have made it so the congress does nothing



that is not what the founders planned

evince
02-02-2015, 10:07 AM
Undeniable Fact: Ronald Reagan Raised Taxes 11 times as President of The United States :grin:




if they had integrity they would be calling him a RINO

Chris
02-02-2015, 10:14 AM
Undeniable Fact: Ronald Reagan Raised Taxes 11 times as President of The United States :grin:


And just as undeniably that pitiful partisan point doesn't mean raising taxes is a good thing.

hanger4
02-02-2015, 10:16 AM
dude did they serve while Obama was president?


you republicans have made it so the congress does nothing



that is not what the founders planned

I never said Repubs weren't being obstructionists, but when you post

a link ignoring Harry Reid and his merry band of Dems controlled

113th Senate it kind a calls your credibility into question.

Both sides obstruct, always have, always will.

birddog
02-02-2015, 10:29 AM
We need to freeze spending per capita, and improve the business climate to increase jobs and tax income. Idiots on both sides of the aisle, especially the dims, will always overspend what is taken in if allowed. We need NO INCREASE IN NATIONAL DEBT!

Chris
02-02-2015, 10:35 AM
We need to freeze spending per capita, and improve the business climate to increase jobs and tax income. Idiots on both sides of the aisle, especially the dims, will always overspend what is taken in if allowed. We need NO INCREASE IN NATIONAL DEBT!

That sounds reasonable, all of it.

Chris
02-02-2015, 10:37 AM
I never said Repubs weren't being obstructionists, but when you post

a link ignoring Harry Reid and his merry band of Dems controlled

113th Senate it kind a calls your credibility into question.

Both sides obstruct, always have, always will.



And now Obama promises to obstruct with vetoes.

I hold however that the less the government does the better. Obstruction is a good thing, at least in a governing body.

evince
02-02-2015, 10:40 AM
the founders didnt agree with you.

Go start your own government if that is what you want

evince
02-02-2015, 10:41 AM
We need to freeze spending per capita, and improve the business climate to increase jobs and tax income. Idiots on both sides of the aisle, especially the dims, will always overspend what is taken in if allowed. We need NO INCREASE IN NATIONAL DEBT!


Um dude


You guys crashed the world wide economy with those ideas twice in one lifetime already

Chris
02-02-2015, 10:49 AM
the founders didnt agree with you.

Go start your own government if that is what you want


You talking to me? Hard to tell as you don't really say much that makes any sense. How could the founders 300 years ago possibly agree with me today?

The founders said this: "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

I agree with them.

hanger4
02-02-2015, 10:50 AM
the founders didnt agree with you.

Go start your own government if that is what you want

That's right, the founders set up three branches (four sort of) of

government so everybody could get along. :wtf20:

hanger4
02-02-2015, 10:54 AM
Um dude


You guys crashed the world wide economy with those ideas twice in one lifetime already

That housing bubble burst was a bipartisan effort (stupidity actually)

Blaming it all on one side shows a total lack of understanding.

evince
02-02-2015, 11:01 AM
why did Bush hold back the broker rules in GLB act for 8 years?

evince
02-02-2015, 11:02 AM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/38648-The-SEC-under-Bush-held-back-the-bank-broker-rules-in-GLBact


this was NOT bipartisan

Chris
02-02-2015, 11:15 AM
That housing bubble burst was a bipartisan effort (stupidity actually)

Blaming it all on one side shows a total lack of understanding.

Agree. It goes back far as FDR with Freddie and Fannie.

evince
02-02-2015, 11:18 AM
why did Bush refuse to implement the bank broker rules in GLB act for 8 long years while this housing mess was created?