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texan
02-04-2015, 09:36 PM
Interestingly I was called to task by Cigar on this point earlier and now this is coming out.
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx
It is Gallup people not exactly the Tea Party.
:but:
Peter1469
02-04-2015, 09:50 PM
I have been saying that for a while.
Green Arrow
02-04-2015, 09:56 PM
Call-outs are against the rules. Take Cigar out of your title and OP or I'll do it, and if I have to do it I won't be happy. You won't like me when I'm not happy.
texan
02-04-2015, 11:23 PM
Don't see how to take it out, so please go ahead. It came off like I was calling him out but that was not really my intentions, I regret the title.
PolWatch
02-04-2015, 11:34 PM
Title edited
Howey
02-05-2015, 12:04 AM
Interestingly I was called to task by Cigar on this point earlier and now this is coming out.
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx
It is Gallup people not exactly the Tea Party.
:but:
It's nice that Mr Clifton was able to do express his personal opinion. Hopefully he was able to poll the 10,000 baby boomers retiring every day before doing so and realizes that there were underemployed long before he started his business.
Cigar
02-05-2015, 09:15 AM
Interestingly I was called to task by Cigar on this point earlier and now this is coming out.
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx
It is Gallup people not exactly the Tea Party.
:but:
So what you're saying is ... 5.6% Unemployment was a Lie back when it was 5.6% Unemploymet during a Republican Presidency :laugh:
Captain Obvious
02-05-2015, 09:22 AM
I have been saying that for a while.
Same here.
Shift from F/T to P/T isn't taken into consideration (less hours worked and loss of benefits) nor are the stagnant wages taken into account also. Working more for less isn't an ideal employment market.
I'm not one of those RW bucket luggers that's going to say the economy is still in the shitter, the employment arena definitely has had significant improvements albeit slow in the process but there are some strings attached no doubt. And some smoke and mirrors but that goes without saying with this administration.
PolWatch
02-05-2015, 09:23 AM
Same here.
Shift from F/T to P/T isn't taken into consideration (less hours worked and loss of benefits) nor are the stagnant wages taken into account also. Working more for less isn't an ideal employment market.
I'm not one of those RW bucket luggers that's going to say the economy is still in the shitter, the employment arena definitely has had significant improvements albeit slow in the process but there are some strings attached no doubt. And some smoke and mirrors but that goes without saying with this administration.
sheesh...do you really expect politicians to tell the truth? :rollseyes:
Captain Obvious
02-05-2015, 09:23 AM
Call-outs are against the rules. Take Cigar out of your title and OP or I'll do it, and if I have to do it I won't be happy. You won't like me when I'm not happy.
http://www.troll.me/images2/undertaker/you-wont-like-me-when-im-angry.jpg
Captain Obvious
02-05-2015, 09:25 AM
sheesh...do you really expect politicians to tell the truth? :rollseyes:
No, but I'm insulted actually as a citizen and as a human being when the sheep buy into it.
I'm further insulted when the "buying into it" is wholly selective, based on where your political spectrum is set.
It's really stunning to see how blind and stupid a very large segment of our voting public are.
Cigar
02-05-2015, 09:27 AM
FACT: The Unemployment Calculations and Reporting Structure is the same during a Democatic Administration as it is for a Republican Administration.
Deal with it. :laugh:
Captain Obvious
02-05-2015, 09:32 AM
FACT: The Unemployment Calculations and Reporting Structure is the same during a Democatic Administration as it is for a Republican Administration.
Deal with it. :laugh:
Yes, it was fucked up back then too.
Thanks for the shocking revelation there, nostradumbass.
Cigar
02-05-2015, 09:47 AM
Yes, it was $#@!ed up back then too.
Thanks for the shocking revelation there, nostradumbass.
I just wanted to dispel the myth that it's Obama's or The Democrats fault, thanks for confirming Cap, couldn't do it without you :wink:
Cigar
02-05-2015, 09:48 AM
US jobless applications rise, but levels point to job growth
WASHINGTON (AP) — More people sought unemployment benefits last week, but the number of applicants remained near historic lows in a positive sign for job growth.
The Labor Department said Thursday that weekly applications rose 11,000 to a seasonally adjusted 278,000. The four-week average, a less volatile measure, fell 6,500 to 292,750. That average has plunged 15 percent over the past 12 months.
The weekly increase comes after applications plummeted 42,000 in the prior week to 267,000. There has been volatility in recent reports due to the end of the holiday shopping season and the recent Martin Luther King Jr. holiday, when state unemployment offices were closed. The government tries to adjust for such seasonal patterns, but isn't always able to do so perfectly.
Weekly applications are a proxy for layoffs. The decline indicates that companies are keeping their workers and potentially looking to hire on the expectation that the economy will continue growing.
http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/ap/304295693922-Unemployment_Benefits_20150205.jpeg
In this Friday, Jan. 23, 2015 photo, instructor Lavinda Young, left, helps Fabian Perez, center, and Lazaro Chaviano, right, with their resumes during a job fair at the Hospitality Institute, in Miami. The U.S. Labor Department reports on the number of people who applied for unemployment benefits for the week ending Jan. 24 on Thursday, Feb. 5, 2015. (AP Photo/Lynne Sladky)
Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150205/us--unemployment_benefits-917b97c913.html
Captain Obvious
02-05-2015, 09:52 AM
I just wanted to dispel the myth that it's Obama's or The Democrats fault, thanks for confirming Cap, couldn't do it without you :wink:
Who said anything was anyone's fault?
See, small minds like you try to make everything into a political pissing contest because that's how you amuse yourselves.
In reality there is contributory negligence here. GW teed up the crash by spending, Wall Street enabled it by overextending it's risk, the democrats allowed it to drag out by spending like drunken sailors and using the crisis (never let a crisis go to waste) as a conduit to further increase spending (and dependence) and bloat the system with devalued money, then point to inaccurate data in order to exaggerate the recovery.
I just want truth and accuracy, you're just a cheerleader ready to believe anything and everything that makes your team look good or makes the opposition team look bad. That's the big difference between you and I and I sometimes feel sorry for you in your state of ignorance.
texan
02-05-2015, 09:54 AM
It's nice that Mr Clifton was able to do express his personal opinion. Hopefully he was able to poll the 10,000 baby boomers retiring every day before doing so and realizes that there were underemployed long before he started his business.
Ah the liar liar pants on fire defense, I expected to see this make a quick appearance ...........Facts are a bitch, this administration has had to restate so many numbers over 6 years its troublesome. This is yet another example of their Chicago style mob mentality. Just lie about the numbers we are not on Wallstreet we can't go to jail for doing it! Oh yes and under this admin no one on Wallstreet went down as promised either. Two peas in a pod when it comes to numbers.
Matty
02-05-2015, 09:58 AM
sheesh...do you really expect politicians to tell the truth? :rollseyes:
It is sad when you so readily accept being lied to.
Captain Obvious
02-05-2015, 10:00 AM
It is sad when you so readily accept being lied to.
Sadder when it's ignored.
Cigar
02-05-2015, 10:05 AM
It is sad when you so readily accept being lied to.
So tell us what the Lie is?
Tell us that you know more than than The Department of Labor
So ... what exactly are the Unemploymet figures from your expert analysis.
:grin: I'll wait to see the figures
nic34
02-05-2015, 10:17 AM
Interestingly I was called to task by Cigar on this point earlier and now this is coming out.
http://www.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx
It is Gallup people not exactly the Tea Party.
:but:
You're right, all the jobs there were before Obama were good high paying ones.
Also did you miss the part about it being an OPINION by Jim Clifton?
Cigar
02-05-2015, 10:22 AM
Ah the liar liar pants on fire defense, I expected to see this make a quick appearance ...........Facts are a $#@!, this administration has had to restate so many numbers over 6 years its troublesome. This is yet another example of their Chicago style mob mentality. Just lie about the numbers we are not on Wallstreet we can't go to jail for doing it! Oh yes and under this admin no one on Wallstreet went down as promised either. Two peas in a pod when it comes to numbers.
.... and the REAL Unemployment Number is what? :laugh:
Captain Obvious
02-05-2015, 10:25 AM
.... and the REAL Unemployment Number is what? :laugh:
That's a good question.
Like anything else, depends on who you ask.
Peter1469
02-05-2015, 10:38 AM
Google u6 unemployment.
Cigar
02-05-2015, 10:40 AM
Google u6 unemployment.
Tell us, are those numbers higher, lower or the same as they were in 2009?
Peter1469
02-05-2015, 10:46 AM
Tell us, are those numbers higher, lower or the same as they were in 2009?
I assume lower. Probably not by a lot though.
Howey
02-05-2015, 10:55 AM
Ah the liar liar pants on fire defense, I expected to see this make a quick appearance ...........Facts are a $#@!, this administration has had to restate so many numbers over 6 years its troublesome. This is yet another example of their Chicago style mob mentality. Just lie about the numbers we are not on Wallstreet we can't go to jail for doing it! Oh yes and under this admin no one on Wallstreet went down as promised either. Two peas in a pod when it comes to numbers.
Here's a little edumacation for you since you're so badly ill-informed. I'll only quote some highlights that prove you horribly wrong and me incredibly intelligent.
Perry told “Meet the Press” host David Gregory: “I’m really worried about those 90 million people that are out of work.” That would mean Perry is worried about retirees not working, as well as high-school students. In fact, only 6 million of that figure are people who “want a job,” according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
and who else?
The vast majority don’t want a job, and for good reason. For instance, the 92.6 million figure includes 36 million Americans of retirement age — 65 and older — 17 million of whom were 75 and older. It also includes 11 million teenagers — age 16 to 19 — many of whom aren’t looking for jobs. It includes 6.8 million 20- to 24-year-olds, some of whom are in college. Those not in the labor force would also include millions of stay-at-home parents, early retirees and anyone else who didn’t need or want to work.
Oh. Look! Thanks, Obama!
Another gauge of Americans’ employment would be the employment-population ratio, which is the percentage of the total population, 16 and older, that is employed. That figure was 58.9 percent in April, down from 60.6 percent when Obama took office in January 2009. In fact, the employment-population ratio has been below 60 percent for most of Obama’s presidency, and previously, it hadn’t dipped below that mark since July 1985.
And what'd I tell ya?
Beyond the economy, there is some impact from the aging of the population. Those 65 and older made up 12.4 percent of the U.S. population in 2000, and 13 percent in 2010. That’s expected to jump to 16.1 percent by 2020, according to Census data.
huh. What's that, Howey?
BLS projections through 2022, in fact, show the labor force participation rate will continue to decline because the movement of baby boomers into older age groups “will exert heavy pressure on the overall participation rate.”...A major factor responsible for this downward pressure on the overall labor force participation rate is the aging of the baby-boom generation.”
And how 'bout dem wimmen?
...the rate for women peaked in early 2000 (at 60.3 percent) and has been declining since. Part of the reason, again, is the aging of the population. BLS expects the decline to continue.
So let's just mark this one down as the best spanking ever imposed on your ass there, red-headed stepchild texan.
http://i.imgur.com/6NAbXiu.gif
Now take your marbles and get off our playground.
Cigar
02-05-2015, 10:56 AM
I assume lower. Probably not by a lot though.
... and there you have it folks :laugh:
Peter1469
02-05-2015, 11:17 AM
... and there you have it folks :laugh:
What do you have?
Cigar
02-05-2015, 11:21 AM
What do you have?
According to your math, the unemployment figers are better, not worse or the same.
Reason10
02-05-2015, 11:21 AM
So what you're saying is ... 5.6% Unemployment was a Lie back when it was 5.6% Unemploymet during a Republican Presidency :laugh:
President Bush's employment numbers weren't massaged by a left wing media. The Huffington Douchebag Press is doing everything they can to make the KENYAN VILLAGE IDIOT look good, when most of us realize he is the WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.
Peter1469
02-05-2015, 11:23 AM
According to your math, the unemployment figers are better, not worse or the same.
That doesn't tell a story. The U-6 number may be 4 percent better than it was. It still sucks at near 11%.
Reason10
02-05-2015, 11:25 AM
That doesn't tell a story. The U-6 number may be 4 percent better than it was. It still sucks at near 11%.
The employment numbers aren't telling the whole story. And they aren't documenting how many of those jobs were lost because of Obamacare.
Cigar
02-05-2015, 11:25 AM
That doesn't tell a story. The U-6 number may be 4 percent better than it was. It still sucks at near 11%.
Would it Suck more at 15% ?
Cigar
02-05-2015, 11:26 AM
The employment numbers aren't telling the whole story. And they aren't documenting how many of those jobs were lost because of Obamacare.
link please
Reason10
02-05-2015, 11:26 AM
Would it Suck more at 15% ?
Obama was close to making that happen before the adults took over the House and Senate.
Howey
02-05-2015, 11:31 AM
The employment numbers aren't telling the whole story. And they aren't documenting how many of those jobs were lost because of Obamacare.
Oh, goodness.
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/gops-job-killing-whopper-again-2/
texan
02-05-2015, 11:40 AM
Everyone in America knows its about 10%, everyone.
You have the Obama excuse makers that will parrot whatever he says, too much invested.
BTW I love a guy that has to prove how smart he is contrary to his posts which pretty well tell the story. Sell it somewhere else we are all stocked up on crazy here.
Howey
02-05-2015, 11:42 AM
Everyone in America knows its about 10%, everyone.
.
Prove it, red headed stepchild.
PolWatch
02-05-2015, 11:49 AM
Prove it, red headed stepchild.
as the founder & only member of the National Association for the Advancement of Redheads, I must ask you to cease & desist...or I'm gonna show you why we have the reputation for being evil-tempered....:rollseyes:
it is a joke...just in case some people can't tell...
Captain Obvious
02-05-2015, 11:53 AM
Everyone in America knows its about 10%, everyone.
You have the Obama excuse makers that will parrot whatever he says, too much invested.
BTW I love a guy that has to prove how smart he is contrary to his posts which pretty well tell the story. Sell it somewhere else we are all stocked up on crazy here.
That's what RWHackRadio throws around so that's what the sheep graze on.
My generally 100% accurate opinion is that the truth is somewhere in between, it usually is.
Cigar
02-05-2015, 11:54 AM
Everyone in America knows its about 10%, everyone.
You have the Obama excuse makers that will parrot whatever he says, too much invested.
BTW I love a guy that has to prove how smart he is contrary to his posts which pretty well tell the story. Sell it somewhere else we are all stocked up on crazy here.
What was it in 2009 and 2010? :grin:
Reason10
02-05-2015, 11:59 AM
link please
http://godfatherpolitics.com/8034/thousands-losing-jobs-due-to-obamacare/
Welsh Allyn - who will be laying off 275 employees, roughly 10% of their workforce over the next three years.
Dana Holding Corp. - warned employees of potential layoffs due to cost of $24 million over the next six years in additional health coverage expenses due to Obamacare. They currently employ 25,500 workers worldwide.
Stryker - announced that they are planning on eliminating 5% of the global workforce, approximately 1170 jobs, to offset the medical device tax. They are one of those largest manufacturers of medical devices in the world.
Boston Scientific - announced two years ago that the proposed taxes in additional costs of healthcare contained in Obamacare would force the company to cut between 1200 and 1400 jobs. They added that the additional costs may force them to move workers and investments overseas to China.
Medtronic - they also manufacture medical devices and have already cut 500 jobs this past summer due to Obamacare costs and plan on cutting an additional 500 jobs by the end of 2013.
Smith & Nephew - are looking at laying off 770 employees.
Abbott Labs - are looking at laying off 700 employees.
Covidien - are looking at laying off 595 employees.
http://dailysignal.com/2013/03/11/ten-stories-of-job-loss-as-consequences-of-obamacare/
Medical Device Tax
1,000 jobs lost: “Stryker Corporation Confirms Obamacare Layoffs (http://thecoloradoobserver.com/2012/11/stryker-corportation-confirms-obamacare-layoffs/).”
275 jobs lost: “Medical Device Tax Blamed for Welch Allyn Layoffs (http://www.mddionline.com/article/medical-device-tax-blamed-welch-allyn-layoffs).”
100 jobs lost: “Latest Obamacare Casualty: 100 Workers at Smith and Nephew (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/1/latest-obamacare-casualty-100-workers-smith-nephew/).”
The 2.3 percent excise tax on the sale of medical devices, one of the 18 tax hikes (http://dailysignal.com/2012/08/20/obamacares-18-new-tax-hikes/) in Obamacare, is estimated to cost the industry over $29 billion between 2013 and 2022. Many employers in the industry are compensating for the tax hike by reducing their labor costs.
Medicare Payment Cuts
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950 jobs lost: “Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center Reengineers Cost Structure, Eliminate Positions (http://www.wakehealth.edu/News-Releases/2012/Wake_Forest_Baptist_Medical_Center_Reengineers_Cos t_Structure,_Eliminates_Positions.htm).”
Up to 400 jobs lost: “Orlando Health to Cut Record Number of Jobs to Save Money (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-11-19/news/os-orlando-health-layoffs-20121116_1_orlando-health-sherrie-sitarik-readmission-rates).”
52 Jobs lost: “Delaware Hospice Lays Off 52 Workers amid Federal Changes (http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130110/BUSINESS13/301100062/Delaware-Hospice-lays-off-52-workers-amid-federal-changes?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1).”
58 jobs lost: “Hospital Layoffs and the Affordable Hea[l]th Care Act (http://www.whec.com/news/stories/s2916271.shtml).”
Obamacare reduces Medicare spending by $716 billion from 2013 to 2022, with a majority of the payment reductions hitting Medicare Part A providers, which includes hospitals, hospices, skilled nursing facilities, and nursing homes. As these providers are trying to do more with less federal reimbursement, they are laying off their employees to cut down costs.
If Obamacare’s rates remain law, the Medicare trustees predict (http://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Statistics-Trends-and-Reports/ReportsTrustFunds/Downloads/TR2012.pdf), “the lower Medicare payment rates would result in negative total facility margins for an estimated 15 percent of hospitals, skilled nursing facilities, and home health agencies by 2019, and this percentage would reach roughly 25 percent in 2030 and 40 percent by 2050.” The payment cuts are simply not sustainable.
Employer Mandate
At least 7,386 full-time jobs turned part-time: “State Grapples with Insurance Rules for Part-Time Workers (http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/virginia-politics/general-assembly/state-grapples-with-insurance-rules-for-part-time-workers/article_03136cab-9eab-5295-9359-89a19fae4a15.html).”
400 full-time jobs turned part-time: “Health Care Law Brings Double Dose of Trouble for CCAC Part-Time Profs (http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-city/health-care-law-brings-double-dose-of-trouble-for-ccac-part-time-profs-662697/#ixzz2MsaDCsUk).”
300 full-time jobs turned part-time: “Wendy’s Franchisee Slashes Employee Hours to Sidestep Obamacare (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/07/wendys-obamacare_n_2425066.html).”
Reason10
02-05-2015, 12:02 PM
link please
http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/100313-673712-obamacare-opposition-to-obamacare-reaches-new-high.htm
Nearly one in 10 said that either they or someone in their household has had their hours cut back because of ObamaCare. That translates into as many as 9 million people. Meanwhile, 6% say they or another household member has lost a job because of ObamaCare (http://news.investors.com/politics/obamacare.htm). In other words, the health law is responsible for as many as 7 million lost jobs.
SEVEN MILLION LOST JOBS.
How's that HOPEY CHANGEY thing working out for ya?
Peter1469
02-05-2015, 12:25 PM
Would it Suck more at 15% ?
Not relevant. It should not be at 11%
Cigar
02-05-2015, 02:39 PM
Not relevant. It should not be at 11%
Ok ... then what number should it be at and why?
texan
02-05-2015, 02:55 PM
That's what RWHackRadio throws around so that's what the sheep graze on.
My generally 100% accurate opinion is that the truth is somewhere in between, it usually is.
Still can't come to grips that it was GALLUP?
Not RWRADIO! You are a genius! Try and keep up its more fun for everyone.
texan
02-05-2015, 02:56 PM
What was it in 2009 and 2010? :grin:
probably about 15%......
Peter1469
02-05-2015, 04:57 PM
Ok ... then what number should it be at and why?
It would be back to its historical average several years ago had the government not gotten in the way of the recovery.
Cigar
02-05-2015, 05:00 PM
It would be back to its historical average several years ago had the government not gotten in the way of the recovery.
What year was that?
protectionist
02-05-2015, 05:03 PM
Call-outs are against the rules. Take Cigar out of your title and OP or I'll do it, and if I have to do it I won't be happy. You won't like me when I'm not happy.
We don't like you happy, sad, or in between. No bigee! http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/smiley_ROFLMAO.gif (javascript:void(0))
protectionist
02-05-2015, 05:05 PM
Immigration has completely demolished unemployment counting. Every immigrant working is counted as employed. They shouldn't be. They should be counted as UNEMPLOYMENT >> ie. all the Americans unemployed, who could/should be holding those jobs.
Another reason why unemployment numbers are a FARCE.
So what you're saying is ... 5.6% Unemployment was a Lie back when it was 5.6% Unemploymet during a Republican Presidency :laugh:
This time it IS DIFFERENT.
While I see your point, what you refuse to admit is that this time the jobs simply vanished. And that is why so many who are out of work exist because of food stamps, being homeless and on charity. They can't find a job. A lot of small business are no longer surviving and they were never counted as out of work. Almost every real estate agent is an independent contractor and unless they happen to be in a very good area, they too can't get a job. And they never could collect unemployment.
Look at how bloated the disabled part being paid is. So many learned to collect using disability it is a scandal in the making.
WalterSobchak
02-05-2015, 06:24 PM
Obama was close to making that happen before the adults took over the House and Senate.
Can you link to me just 1 bill the GOP "Adults" have passed and was able to get singed into law in these last 34 days since they have taken over that has improved the job situation in our Country? I would LOVE to see this miracle they performed in that short time.
Captain Obvious
02-05-2015, 06:26 PM
Can you link to me just 1 bill the GOP "Adults" have passed and was able to get singed into law in these last 34 days since they have taken over that has improved the job situation in our Country? I would LOVE to see this miracle they performed in that short time.
Stop being a stranger, Sobchak.
WalterSobchak
02-05-2015, 06:29 PM
Stop being a stranger, Sobchak.
I go on lock down during the NFL season. Now that it's over....Plus work is keeping me insanely busy these days.
sheesh...do you really expect politicians to tell the truth? :rollseyes:
Uhhhh, yes. Certainly they should tell the truth.
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Reason10 http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=949986#post949986)
Obama was close to making that happen before the adults took over the House and Senate.
Can you link to me just 1 bill the GOP "Adults" have passed and was able to get singed into law in these last 34 days since they have taken over that has improved the job situation in our Country? I would LOVE to see this miracle they performed in that short time.
Just trying to be helpful here, but can you show us where he said that? I read his comments over and found nothing that said a bill is passed and signed by the president. Obama is determined to be the obstacle.
Ransom
02-06-2015, 09:21 AM
Call-outs are against the rules. Take Cigar out of your title and OP or I'll do it, and if I have to do it I won't be happy. You won't like me when I'm not happy.
I like you when you're not happy, GA.
Cigar
02-06-2015, 09:25 AM
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Ransom
02-06-2015, 09:32 AM
Can you link to me just 1 bill the GOP "Adults" have passed and was able to get singed into law in these last 34 days since they have taken over that has improved the job situation in our Country? I would LOVE to see this miracle they performed in that short time.
Sure.
http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/elections-results-2014/
Howey
02-06-2015, 10:42 AM
Sure.
http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/elections-results-2014/
Try again.
Cigar
02-06-2015, 10:49 AM
Sure.
http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/elections-results-2014/
The link doesn't list any Bills, did you not understand the question, or where going in a different direction? :huh:
texan
02-06-2015, 09:35 PM
No response huh.
Hal Jordan
02-06-2015, 11:05 PM
Sure.
http://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/elections-results-2014/
I realise you're short on brain cells, but I figured even you would see that your link wasn't talking about bills passed...
PolWatch
02-06-2015, 11:08 PM
maybe it was an 'oops'
Safety
02-06-2015, 11:12 PM
I realise you're short on brain cells, but I figured even you would see that your link wasn't talking about bills passed...
LoL, oldest trick in the book...he was hoping no one would click on the link, too bad someone called his bluff....
domer76
02-06-2015, 11:20 PM
President Bush's employment numbers weren't massaged by a left wing media. The Huffington Douchebag Press is doing everything they can to make the KENYAN VILLAGE IDIOT look good, when most of us realize he is the WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY.
Tell us what you know about Millard Fillmore.
domer76
02-06-2015, 11:26 PM
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Hal Jordan
02-06-2015, 11:30 PM
As a chemist, and former drug chemist in a crime lab, Breaking Bad was my dream series. Few know how subtly beautiful his choice of Heisenberg as his name was. Looking forward to "Better Call Saul".
I thought it was fairly clear... I'm uncertain as to how it could have been missed...
Mac-7
02-07-2015, 04:03 AM
The interesting thing about this thread is the absolute denial of the Obama supporters.
for them a tidal wave that wiped out LA would be a political story that must be presented in a positive way for their obumer.
Its ALL political on the left.
In this case to poor economic performance of America under Obama is undeniable.
And real people, ordinary Americans, are suffering.
But all they - meaning Obama supporters - care about is not making Obama look bad no matter how absurd their denials are.
And the pro Obama lib news media are part of the coverup.
The Christian Science Monitor tells its readers that a rise in unemployment from 5.6 to 5.7 is a good thing.
Huh?
But I'll let those lib wacko refugees from journalism school explain why in their own words here:
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/new-economy/2015/0206/Unemployment-rate-rises-to-5.7-percent.-That-s-great-news.-video
Reason10
02-07-2015, 12:22 PM
Tell us what you know about Millard Fillmore.
Barak Saddam Hussein Obama makes Fillmore look like REAGAN in comparison.
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