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protectionist
02-05-2015, 11:13 PM
He's done it again. Now the enemy in chief has attacked Christians saying they "committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ." But we haven't heard him say that Muslims are killing people in the name of Mohammed. Or Allah. Or Islam.

And this latest outrage comes right after a secret meeting held in the White House with Muslim leaders. Nobody seems to know WHO these Muslim leaders were. Muslim leaders ? Or Muslim Brotherhood leaders ? My guess is that's who they were, and I would like for somebody to explain why the public isn't being told who these guys were, or what was discussed at that meeting.

One thing is consistent though. Just about everything Obama does regarding Islam, is good for radical Muslims, and bad for the American people. America (and the rest of the sane/moral world) is at war with ISIS, and all the other global jihadists. But there are some people in America who are not on America's side. They are on the side of the jihadists. And one of them is Barrack Obama.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/05/outrage-after-obama-compares-isis-to-the-crusades-national-prayer-breakfast/21139559/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-speech-at-prayer-breakfast-called-offensive-to-christians/2015/02/05/6a15a240-ad50-11e4-ad71-7b9eba0f87d6_story.html

Redrose
02-05-2015, 11:24 PM
Barack H. Obama, deep down, in his heart of hearts, believes in Islam. If anyone can't see that by now, they're blind.

He chokes on the words "Islamic Terrorism", but the words "Christians killed in the name of Christ" rolls right off his tongue. He doesn't let the little fact that the Crusades were 1000 years ago, and IS burned the pilot to death last month. Minor detail, he's never been one to let facts get in the way of his philosophical BS. I resent professor Urkel giving us history lessons instead of being a strong leader. I wish he'd stayed in front of the blackboard, he would have done a lot less damage there.

The Xl
02-05-2015, 11:27 PM
He's so pro Islam that he's continued this ridiculous foreign policy and butchered countless Muslims. Makes sense.

protectionist
02-05-2015, 11:29 PM
Correct. By this time in 2015, it has become routine to hear Obama say some of the most things any president has ever said, and do the most outrageous things any president has ever done, when it comes to Islam. And this includes his outrageous INaction as well, such as his refusal to fight ISIS to any meaningful degree.

Didn't he just refuse to help the Jordanians to fight ISIS, by refusing to give them more military armaments ?

protectionist
02-05-2015, 11:30 PM
He's so pro Islam that he's continued this ridiculous foreign policy and butchered countless Muslims. Makes sense.

If only he would do that to ISIS, but he won't. Even his own wife once asked him "Whose side are you on ? "

Howey
02-05-2015, 11:31 PM
SECRET MEETING? It was the goddamned National Prayer Breakfast!

lol.

The Xl
02-05-2015, 11:35 PM
If only he would do that to ISIS, but he won't. Even his own wife once asked him "Whose side are you on ? "


Isis is a regional problem, no matter how moist your panties get at the prospect of conflict with them. Don't worry, I'm sure Neocobama will find a way to quench your thirst for bloodlust, don't count him out yet.

In any case, he's still murdered enough muslims to render this thread retarded

Reason10
02-05-2015, 11:53 PM
Well, you're right.

Safety
02-05-2015, 11:57 PM
LoL, Obama has killed more Muslims with drone strikes than Protectionist has brain cells.

protectionist
02-06-2015, 03:56 AM
SECRET MEETING? It was the $#@!ed National Prayer Breakfast!

lol.

Yeah, lol is right. That's what you get when you think you can come tumbling in here with really bad guesswork, instead of havng some notion of what you're talking about.

EARTH TO HOWEY: NO, it was NOT the National Prayer Breakfast (lol), which the press was all over. The completely separate thing was a secret meeting, with Muslims, which was closed to the press. Too bad you didn't just believe me as I said it in the OP. Then you wouldn't be here with a dunce cap on your head, having just made a fool out of yourself (in Post # 6). That's OK. I, and probably most posters here, wasn't really expecting too much from you to begin with.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/04/the-white-house-wont-reveal-who-attended-obamas-secret-meeting-with-muslim-leaders/

PS - don't even think about slamming Brietbart. If you do, I'll post another link on the press-closed meeting, from Daily Beast, written by Dean Obeidallah, a leftist Muslim, who was at the secret meeting. :icon_biggrin:

protectionist
02-06-2015, 04:03 AM
LoL, Obama has killed more Muslims with drone strikes than Protectionist has brain cells.

1. So you are with Howey, and what he said in Post # 6 ? :smiley_ROFLMAO:

2. Obama has killed a FEW jihadists with drone strikes, but that isn't comparable to fighting a WAR. What needs to be killed to EVERY SINGLE ISIS idiot. ALL 30,000 of them. Get it ?

protectionist
02-06-2015, 04:06 AM
Isis is a regional problem, no matter how moist your panties get at the prospect of conflict with them. Don't worry, I'm sure Neocobama will find a way to quench your thirst for bloodlust, don't count him out yet.

In any case, he's still murdered enough muslims to render this thread retarded

1. He has NOT killed anywhere near enough of the right Muslims (ISIS, Taliban, Boko Haram, Hamas, and the creeps he let go from Gitmo)

2. I have counted him out, for dozens of reasons which you don't have the foggiest idea about.

Redrose
02-06-2015, 05:08 AM
He's done it again. Now the enemy in chief has attacked Christians saying they "committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ." But we haven't heard him say that Muslims are killing people in the name of Mohammed. Or Allah. Or Islam.

And this latest outrage comes right after a secret meeting held in the White House with Muslim leaders. Nobody seems to know WHO these Muslim leaders were. Muslim leaders ? Or Muslim Brotherhood leaders ? My guess is that's who they were, and I would like for somebody to explain why the public isn't being told who these guys were, or what was discussed at that meeting.

One thing is consistent though. Just about everything Obama does regarding Islam, is good for radical Muslims, and bad for the American people. America (and the rest of the sane/moral world) is at war with ISIS, and all the other global jihadists. But there are some people in America who are not on America's side. They are on the side of the jihadists. And one of them is Barrack Obama.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/05/outrage-after-obama-compares-isis-to-the-crusades-national-prayer-breakfast/21139559/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-speech-at-prayer-breakfast-called-offensive-to-christians/2015/02/05/6a15a240-ad50-11e4-ad71-7b9eba0f87d6_story.html


Well he did say he side with Islam if the need arose. That was one of the few times he told the truth.

Mac-7
02-06-2015, 05:14 AM
Like most libs of the liberal persuasion Obama is more anti America than pro Muslim.

most Americans are Christian, most liberals are anti Christian, and most muslims are anti Christian.

so in the Arab tradition the enemy of obumers enemy is his friend.

Thus libs are sympathetic to the islams.

Cigar
02-06-2015, 08:18 AM
:smiley_ROFLMAO:

protectionist
02-06-2015, 01:39 PM
Well he did say he side with Islam if the need arose. That was one of the few times he told the truth.

He has kept his word on that one. Even so far as to slam Christians.

protectionist
02-06-2015, 01:41 PM
Like most libs of the liberal persuasion Obama is more anti America than pro Muslim.

most Americans are Christian, most liberals are anti Christian, and most muslims are anti Christian.

so in the Arab tradition the enemy of obumers enemy is his friend.

Thus libs are sympathetic to the islams.

I think it's more than that. He hasn't been wearing that Shehada ring for 30+ years for nothing.

Cigar
02-06-2015, 01:43 PM
:grin: Feeling a little out of control?

silvereyes
02-06-2015, 03:34 PM
I think it's more than that. He hasn't been wearing that Shehada ring for 30+ years for nothing.
Hes what? Oh dear god.

Common Sense
02-06-2015, 05:13 PM
Hes what? Oh dear god.

Some idiotic conspiracy nonsense that was debunked years ago. Only some die hard loons hold on to it. They're ranked somewhere below birthers on the relevance scale.

Redrose
02-06-2015, 05:25 PM
I had never heard of it before but here is a photo. You decide.

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The inscription states, "No other God but Allah"

It's called a Shahada ring, often worn by Muslim men as a wedding ring so they say.

Common Sense
02-06-2015, 05:26 PM
I had never heard of it before but here is a photo. You decide.



The inscription states, "No other God but Allah"

It's called a Shahada ring, often worn by Muslim men as a wedding ring so they say.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/weddingring.asp

Here's a close up...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/obamaring2.jpg

There's nothing written on it.

Redrose
02-06-2015, 05:35 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/weddingring.asp

Here's a close up...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/obamaring2.jpg

There's nothing written on it.


It's a pretty ring, it does look very Middle Eastern to me, Egyptian maybe. I have some handmade pieces from Turkey, gorgeously made, and some have a similar design worked through the detail, no words just fancy work on earrings and bracelets.

It may have other details we can't see, but regardless it does look Arabic to me.

If he's from Hawaii, and his father was from Kenya, mom was American and he says he's a Christian, why would he wear an Arabic wedding ring? Maybe he just liked the pattern. ?????

gamewell45
02-06-2015, 05:39 PM
He's done it again. Now the enemy in chief has attacked Christians saying they "committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ." But we haven't heard him say that Muslims are killing people in the name of Mohammed. Or Allah. Or Islam.

And this latest outrage comes right after a secret meeting held in the White House with Muslim leaders. Nobody seems to know WHO these Muslim leaders were. Muslim leaders ? Or Muslim Brotherhood leaders ? My guess is that's who they were, and I would like for somebody to explain why the public isn't being told who these guys were, or what was discussed at that meeting.

One thing is consistent though. Just about everything Obama does regarding Islam, is good for radical Muslims, and bad for the American people. America (and the rest of the sane/moral world) is at war with ISIS, and all the other global jihadists. But there are some people in America who are not on America's side. They are on the side of the jihadists. And one of them is Barrack Obama.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/05/outrage-after-obama-compares-isis-to-the-crusades-national-prayer-breakfast/21139559/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-speech-at-prayer-breakfast-called-offensive-to-christians/2015/02/05/6a15a240-ad50-11e4-ad71-7b9eba0f87d6_story.html

If only the Christians hadn't screwed up and had the Crusades, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

Common Sense
02-06-2015, 05:43 PM
It's a pretty ring, it does look very Middle Eastern to me, Egyptian maybe. I have some handmade pieces from Turkey, gorgeously made, and some have a similar design worked through the detail, no words just fancy work on earrings and bracelets.

It may have other details we can't see, but regardless it does look Arabic to me.

If he's from Hawaii, and his father was from Kenya, mom was American and he says he's a Christian, why would he wear an Arabic wedding ring? Maybe he just liked the pattern. ?????

Apparently it's Indonesian...

Redrose
02-06-2015, 05:45 PM
Apparently it's Indonesian...


Really? That's quite possible. Where did you find that info? It's a pretty ring, I'd like to read more about it.

Alyosha
02-06-2015, 05:46 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/weddingring.asp

Here's a close up...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/graphics/obamaring2.jpg

There's nothing written on it.


First, you can only see one side of it but the pattern looks to be wider on the underside hence the two bands after the serpentine and then four visible on the one below the second serpentine.

The design is not "Islamic" they are particular in what they can and cannot design. You'd be more apt to see vines if it were Islamic. It's also not Greek.

It's more Sumerian in feel which is strange coming from a dude in Chicago. If he were going back to his ethnic roots it would be either African designed (its not) or Islam (at a stretch).

Interesting choice.

Common Sense
02-06-2015, 05:47 PM
Really? That's quite possible. Where did you find that info? It's a pretty ring, I'd like to read more about it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/29/barack-obamas-indonesian_n_339069.html

Common Sense
02-06-2015, 05:48 PM
First, you can only see one side of it but the pattern looks to be wider on the underside hence the two bands after the serpentine and then four visible on the one below the second serpentine.

The design is not "Islamic" they are particular in what they can and cannot design. You'd be more apt to see vines if it were Islamic. It's also not Greek.

It's more Sumerian in feel which is strange coming from a dude in Chicago. If he were going back to his ethnic roots it would be either African designed (its not) or Islam (at a stretch).

Interesting choice.

Other side...

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-10-29-ring1.jpg

Again, apparently it's from Indonesia. So it could be a "muslim" ring.

Alyosha
02-06-2015, 05:49 PM
He's done it again. Now the enemy in chief has attacked Christians saying they "committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ." But we haven't heard him say that Muslims are killing people in the name of Mohammed. Or Allah. Or Islam.

And this latest outrage comes right after a secret meeting held in the White House with Muslim leaders. Nobody seems to know WHO these Muslim leaders were. Muslim leaders ? Or Muslim Brotherhood leaders ? My guess is that's who they were, and I would like for somebody to explain why the public isn't being told who these guys were, or what was discussed at that meeting.

One thing is consistent though. Just about everything Obama does regarding Islam, is good for radical Muslims, and bad for the American people. America (and the rest of the sane/moral world) is at war with ISIS, and all the other global jihadists. But there are some people in America who are not on America's side. They are on the side of the jihadists. And one of them is Barrack Obama.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/05/outrage-after-obama-compares-isis-to-the-crusades-national-prayer-breakfast/21139559/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-speech-at-prayer-breakfast-called-offensive-to-christians/2015/02/05/6a15a240-ad50-11e4-ad71-7b9eba0f87d6_story.html


It was pretty shitty but he said one good thing:


Obama emphasized the need to respect minorities in his speech Thursday, saying it was part of the obligation Americans face as members of a diverse and open society, “And if, in fact, we defend the legal right of a person to insult another’s religion, we’re equally obligated to use our free speech to condemn such insults — and stand shoulder to shoulder with religious communities, particularly religious minorities who are the targets of such attacks.”


He's saying we still have the right and that our response should be personal.

Alyosha
02-06-2015, 05:52 PM
If only the Christians hadn't screwed up and had the Crusades, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

Do you recall what the crusades were in response to? Was it the voluntary conversion of Jews and Christians in the ME?

gamewell45
02-06-2015, 05:56 PM
Do you recall what the crusades were in response to? Was it the voluntary conversion of Jews and Christians in the ME?

It really makes no difference what they were in response to; it was wrong nonetheless. There can be no justification for what they did, just like there is no justification what the Muslim Extremists are doing.

Common Sense
02-06-2015, 05:57 PM
Do you recall what the crusades were in response to? Was it the voluntary conversion of Jews and Christians in the ME?

It's not quite as simple as that. Christians were coming and going freely for a very long time. It wasn't until the Seljuk Turks started fucking with pilgrims did Urban call for the crusades.

protectionist
02-06-2015, 09:33 PM
It really makes no difference what they were in response to; it was wrong nonetheless. There can be no justification for what they did, just like there is no justification what the Muslim Extremists are doing.

Qualifies for top 10 of GIVE US A BREAK. Of course it makes a difference. If you shot somebody, does it make a difference if they were coming at you full speed with a knife ? Man! This forum has some of the absolute most absurd things ever spoken. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/geez.gif (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0)) Posts like this show how apt people are to mouth off in a forum like this, while not having the foggiest idea what they're talking about.

EARTH TO GAMEWELL: The Crusades were similar to the coalition battle now engaging ISIS. Just like the coalition warriors (now being led by Jordan), the Crusaders, back in 1099, fought against imperialist, lunatic Muslims, who by then had been attacking and conquering a vast area of Asia, southern Europe, and North Africa for 477 years.

The only question about the Crusaders that might be asked is >> why did they wait so long to stop these marauding, Muslim maniacs ?

Captain Obvious
02-06-2015, 09:36 PM
Qualifies for top 10 of PURE IDIOCY. Of course it makes a difference. If you shot somebody, does it make a difference if they were coming at you full speed with a knife ? Man! This forum has some of the absolute DUMBEST things ever spoken. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/geez.gif (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0)) Posts like this show how apt people are to mouth off in a forum like this, while not having the foggiest idea what they're talking about.

EARTH TO GAMEWELL: The Crusades were similar to the coalition battle now engaging ISIS. Just like the coalition warriors (now being led by Jordan), the Crusaders, back in 1099, fought against imperialist, lunatic Muslims, who by then had been attacking and conquering a vast area of Asia, southern Europe, and North Africa for 477 years.

The only question about the Crusaders that might be asked is >> why did they wait so long to stop these marauding, Muslim maniacs ?

Fuck off, asswipe.

Peter1469
02-06-2015, 09:40 PM
Warning: Please don’t call members names.

protectionist
02-06-2015, 09:40 PM
It's not quite as simple as that. Christians were coming and going freely for a very long time. It wasn't until the Seljuk Turks started $#@!ing with pilgrims did Urban call for the crusades.


That, and many other things could truly be said about 1099 AD, when the Crusades started. The important thing is that finally, after 477 way too long years, somebody finally stepped up to the plate, and acted to put a stop to jihadist insanity. That is now being done by King Abdullah of Jordan, while all the spineless other "leaders" of the West slowly follow after him (including Obama-still reluctantly and sickeningly minimally)

Bob
02-06-2015, 09:41 PM
He's done it again. Now the enemy in chief has attacked Christians saying they "committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ." But we haven't heard him say that Muslims are killing people in the name of Mohammed. Or Allah. Or Islam.

And this latest outrage comes right after a secret meeting held in the White House with Muslim leaders. Nobody seems to know WHO these Muslim leaders were. Muslim leaders ? Or Muslim Brotherhood leaders ? My guess is that's who they were, and I would like for somebody to explain why the public isn't being told who these guys were, or what was discussed at that meeting.

One thing is consistent though. Just about everything Obama does regarding Islam, is good for radical Muslims, and bad for the American people. America (and the rest of the sane/moral world) is at war with ISIS, and all the other global jihadists. But there are some people in America who are not on America's side. They are on the side of the jihadists. And one of them is Barrack Obama.

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/02/05/outrage-after-obama-compares-isis-to-the-crusades-national-prayer-breakfast/21139559/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-speech-at-prayer-breakfast-called-offensive-to-christians/2015/02/05/6a15a240-ad50-11e4-ad71-7b9eba0f87d6_story.html

You can witness Obama on CSPAN at the prayer meeting.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?324188-1/2015-national-prayer-breakfast

Green Arrow
02-06-2015, 09:41 PM
Captain Obvious has been banned from this thread. Please don't respond to his posts.

protectionist
02-06-2015, 09:43 PM
$#@! off, asswipe.

This is what happens when one devoid of relevant commentary, spills his emotions out and pollutes the pages of Political Forums. Not a problem. Kind of like the occasional fruit fly that get into your kitchen. :rollseyes:

Sorry. I didn't see the mod post until after I had posted here.

Bob
02-06-2015, 09:45 PM
Barack H. Obama, deep down, in his heart of hearts, believes in Islam. If anyone can't see that by now, they're blind.

He chokes on the words "Islamic Terrorism", but the words "Christians killed in the name of Christ" rolls right off his tongue. He doesn't let the little fact that the Crusades were 1000 years ago, and IS burned the pilot to death last month. Minor detail, he's never been one to let facts get in the way of his philosophical BS. I resent professor Urkel giving us history lessons instead of being a strong leader. I wish he'd stayed in front of the blackboard, he would have done a lot less damage there.

I live in the hell hole called Democratville, CA

Even the Democrat managed media mentioned that Obama did this to Christians.

Me, i saw part of the prayer breakfast and decided each speaker intended to say one more prayer and did something else.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?324188-1/2015-national-prayer-breakfast

protectionist
02-06-2015, 09:47 PM
You can witness Obama on CSPAN at the prayer meeting.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?324188-1/2015-national-prayer-breakfast

But we CANNOT witness him and his Muslim buddies at the secret White House meeting he held, that was closed to the press. And we haven't even been allowed to know WHO those Muslims were, that attended.

When the White House hides what they are doing, you can bet it's something the American people don't approve of.

Redrose
02-06-2015, 10:02 PM
Obama keeps proving me wrong. Just when I think he can't sink any lower, he does.

If he felt the need to defer criticism off of Islam and ISIS by bringing up the Christians in the Crusades, doing so at the National Prayer Breakfast shows just how insensitive, uncouth and unpresidential he really is.

Peter1469
02-06-2015, 10:04 PM
Just think, often times groups of Christians joined groups of Muslims during the years of the Crusader kingdoms to fight other groups of Christians and Muslims.

gamewell45
02-06-2015, 10:14 PM
Qualifies for top 10 of GIVE US A BREAK. Of course it makes a difference. If you shot somebody, does it make a difference if they were coming at you full speed with a knife ? Man! This forum has some of the absolute most absurd things ever spoken. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/geez.gif (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0)) Posts like this show how apt people are to mouth off in a forum like this, while not having the foggiest idea what they're talking about.

EARTH TO GAMEWELL: The Crusades were similar to the coalition battle now engaging ISIS. Just like the coalition warriors (now being led by Jordan), the Crusaders, back in 1099, fought against imperialist, lunatic Muslims, who by then had been attacking and conquering a vast area of Asia, southern Europe, and North Africa for 477 years.

The only question about the Crusaders that might be asked is >> why did they wait so long to stop these marauding, Muslim maniacs ?

I took you seriously until the end of your first sentence.

protectionist
02-06-2015, 10:37 PM
I took you seriously until the end of your first sentence.

explanation please >>>

Safety
02-06-2015, 10:56 PM
Qualifies for top 10 of GIVE US A BREAK. Of course it makes a difference. If you shot somebody, does it make a difference if they were coming at you full speed with a knife ? Man! This forum has some of the absolute most absurd things ever spoken. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/geez.gif (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0)) Posts like this show how apt people are to mouth off in a forum like this, while not having the foggiest idea what they're talking about.

EARTH TO GAMEWELL: The Crusades were similar to the coalition battle now engaging ISIS. Just like the coalition warriors (now being led by Jordan), the Crusaders, back in 1099, fought against imperialist, lunatic Muslims, who by then had been attacking and conquering a vast area of Asia, southern Europe, and North Africa for 477 years.

The only question about the Crusaders that might be asked is >> why did they wait so long to stop these marauding, Muslim maniacs ?


http://youtu.be/hkodTydUR0E

protectionist
02-06-2015, 11:29 PM
http://youtu.be/hkodTydUR0E

Well, you just made yourself a little dumber by ludicrously trying to deny the obvious, which everyone knows (except fools who walk around programmed by idiotic liberal media) So, in all, as you know, I often say >>
NOT MY PROBLEM. :icon_biggrin:

AGAIN: The only question about the Crusaders that might be asked is >> why did they wait so long to stop these marauding, Muslim maniacs ? (477 years)

Note to Safety _ in case you missed the memo, your try to portray Protectionist as dumb, is a symptom of the terror you feel when you know my posts are going to crucify you, and your gross lack of knowledge about Islam and Islamization. Hey! When are you gong to take the Islamization Quiz, so you can show us all how much you don't know ? :icon_biggrin:

Safety
02-06-2015, 11:36 PM
Well, you just made yourself a little dumber by ludicrously trying to deny the obvious, which everyone knows (except fools who walk around programmed by idiotic liberal media) So, in all, as you know, I often say >> NOT MY PROBLEM. :icon_biggrin:

Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error....

domer76
02-06-2015, 11:51 PM
Well he did say he side with Islam if the need arose. That was one of the few times he told the truth.

Your post is such a distortion of the truth, it borders on a lie. Why don't you share, if you know that is, the entire content and context of what he said.

If you do know, your post is a lie. If you don't really know, it is bullshit. Neither one is a pretty picture, is it?

Redrose
02-06-2015, 11:58 PM
Your post is such a distortion of the truth, it borders on a lie. Why don't you share, if you know that is, the entire content and context of what he said.

If you do know, your post is a lie. If you don't really know, it is bullshit. Neither one is a pretty picture, is it?



I know the full quote well. The synopsis I gave was not in quotes, and is by no means a distortion of that quote. Greater minds than I have attributed the same understanding, some using the very same words as I did, to Obama's comment. If you fail to comprehend what he was saying in that famous statement, it is not my problem.

domer76
02-07-2015, 12:02 AM
I know the full quote well. The synopsis I gave was not in quotes, and is by no means a distortion of that quote. Greater minds than I have attributed the same understanding, some using the very same words as I did, to Obama's comment. If you fail to comprehend what he was saying in that famous statement, it is not my problem.

So then your post WAS a lie. Got it.

But for the edification of others, he was talking about AMERICAN CITIZENS, and here is the quote:

"In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I don't see the word "Muslim" once, do you?

Redrose
02-07-2015, 12:18 AM
So then your post WAS a lie. Got it.

But for the edification of others, he was talking about AMERICAN CITIZENS, and here is the quote:

"In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I don't see the word "Muslim" once, do you?


You are making yourself look foolish. People who throw the words lie and liar around as easily as you do are usually guilty of it themselves.

domer76
02-07-2015, 01:31 AM
You are making yourself look foolish. People who throw the words lie and liar around as easily as you do are usually guilty of it themselves.
The difference between a liar and a bullshitter is that the liar knows the truth and intentionally distorts it. You indicated you knew exactly what Obama had said, yet you stated something that was not true. That would, by definition, make you a liar in this case.

A bullshitter, however, may or may not know the truth, but that knowledge is irrelevent. They just have no regard for it one way or the other. They simply don't care.

Plead ignorance of his actual statement, the one I quoted, and you can revert to being just a bullshitter. Maintain your knowledge of the content of the quote, and you retain the privilege of lying about it.

Your choice, of course. I really don't give a shit. I merely provided his exact words so that we'd all be clear on what he really said.

texan
02-07-2015, 02:02 AM
SECRET MEETING? It was the $#@!ed National Prayer Breakfast!

lol.

Learn to read with comprehension Howey!

I could read that and comprehend what was said, I was not aware so I searched it,

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/04/the-white-house-wont-reveal-who-attended-obamas-secret-meeting-with-muslim-leaders/



LOL at your abilities to read.

protectionist
02-07-2015, 02:38 AM
Any man can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error....

Well, if you want to call yourself an idiot, that's up to you. But you clearly are persisting in your error of thinking the readers of this thread are being snowed by your little deflection game. You know you can't compete with my knowledge of Islam/Islamization so to avoid being shown as the Islamization know-nothing that you are (like all liberals whose media won't speak about it), you (and your Islamapologist cohorts) all pretend I am the ignorant one.

Just one problem with your scheme, not-so-safe Safety. I challenged you to take my Islamization Quiz. You punked out on it (as did your fellow know-nothings). So you can pretend until doomsday, but the readers of this forum will only be hoodwinked by your little game if they're incredibly stupid. Having been in this forum for a year or more, I can assess they're not that stupid.

And the only ones coming out looking stupid is you Islamization Quiz ZEROS, by pretending you are the knowledgable ones. And the longer you pretend, the dumber you look.

So here's the situation. You persist in your error, and take the consequences of that, or you come clean, admit you never watch Fox News, don't read Breibart, Jihadwatch, Daniel Pipes, Act for America, etc, and thus don't know squat about this topic. Then, you can start learning about it and not have to put on your little show, with nothing behind it.

Here's your first part of your quiz > Who are Lina Morales, Omar Mohammedi, and Kevin James, all of whom have relations to Islamization ? And how are they related to it ? Game is over safety. You can cut and run again, persist, pretend some more, but readers won't buy it, and your little gang won't matter either. You got 3 questions. Go.

protectionist
02-07-2015, 02:48 AM
So then your post WAS a lie. Got it.

But for the edification of others, he was talking about AMERICAN CITIZENS, and here is the quote:

"In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

I don't see the word "Muslim" once, do you?

Of course we see it.. We all do. Obama rarely, if ever, says the word "Muslim". He, and his whole adninistration, also don't say "terrorist, Islamist, jihadist" either. And all these words have been stricken/purged from FBI counterterrorism training manuals. That's official Obama policy.

But we all know who Obama is talking about when he says "Arab & Pakistani Americans". Same as we know who British officials are talking about, when they say "Asians" (the British cover word for Muslims). Who did you think Obama was talking about when he said "Arab & Pakistani Americans" ? Jews ? Mormons ?

protectionist
02-07-2015, 02:56 AM
Learn to read with comprehension Howey!

I could read that and comprehend what was said, I was not aware so I searched it,

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/02/04/the-white-house-wont-reveal-who-attended-obamas-secret-meeting-with-muslim-leaders/

LOL at your abilities to read.

I exposed him on it, back on page 1 (Post # 10) - same link. That's OK. Howey could stand to be reminded of it, so he doesn't make the same :lame: mistake again. :icon_biggrin:

protectionist
02-07-2015, 03:17 AM
Every day Obama makes himself more and more of an enemy of America , and more and more a friend to the global jihad. Now he sent his National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, out to say >> "Yes, there is a lot going on. Still, while the dangers we face may be more numerous and varied, they are not of the existential nature we confronted during World War II or during the Cold War.”

This is a baldfaced LIE. In a private conversation (before it went public), Obama confided to actor George Clooney that the one thing that keeps him awake at night is "Pakistan"

Well of course. That's because Pakistan is a 90% Muslim country, loaded with active jihadists, who have tried repeatedly to get their hands on Pakistan's arsenal of 100+ NUCLEAR warheads, and has even discussed with Pentagon brass, the idea of going into Pakistan to grab the nukes, and remove them to a safe place.

This is a threat that threatens the entire EXISTENCE of the USA, and this is an EXISTENTIAL threat. And it is one that did NOT EXIST during World War II.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/the-pentagon-s-secret-plans-to-secure-pakistan-s-nuclear-arsenal-20111104

There is also an EXISTENTIAL THREAT from ISIS, with already a $2 Billion cache, and as we all know, if you've got enough money, you can buy just about anything. That includes a NUCLEAR arsenal, and team of scientists.

Howey
02-07-2015, 04:40 AM
I exposed him on it, back on page 1 (Post # 10) - same link. That's OK. Howey could stand to be reminded of it, so he doesn't make the same :lame: mistake again. :icon_biggrin:

Oh. I'm sorry. It was a small blurb in a big story about the prayer breakfast. Where he reiterated the topics of the meeting.

Here's the story on the so-called secret meeting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obama-participates-in-long-requested-meeting-with-muslim-americans/2015/02/06/4fe1d45a-ae10-11e4-abe8-e1ef60ca26de_story.html

Just as a heads up, the next meeting, a full one, will be Feb 18th.
Get your tin hats ready!

William
02-07-2015, 04:46 AM
But we all know who Obama is talking about when he says "Arab & Pakistani Americans". Same as we know who British officials are talking about, when they say "Asians" (the British cover word for Muslims). Who did you think Obama was talking about when he said "Arab & Pakistani Americans" ? Jews ? Mormons ?

Sorry, I grew up in Britain - the British do not use the word 'Asians' to mean Muslims (neither do the Australians). The word Asians is used to mean people who come from Asia, from China to South-East Asia (Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, etc.) and people who come from the Indian sub-continent - it doesn't matter what their religion is (they can be Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, or Christians).

Peter1469
02-07-2015, 04:50 AM
They call them Pakis. :smiley:

William
02-07-2015, 04:58 AM
They call them Pakis. :smiley:

LOL, only those from India or Pakistan, and only the ignorant Brits (or Aussies) do that. Yonks ago, when I was like nine, I called some guy at my school a Paki when I was talking about him at home, and you won't believe the trouble I got into with my mum and dad. I never used that word since. :laugh:

domer76
02-07-2015, 08:38 AM
Of course we see it.. We all do. Obama rarely, if ever, says the word "Muslim". He, and his whole adninistration, also don't say "terrorist, Islamist, jihadist" either. And all these words have been stricken/purged from FBI counterterrorism training manuals. That's official Obama policy.

But we all know who Obama is talking about when he says "Arab & Pakistani Americans". Same as we know who British officials are talking about, when they say "Asians" (the British cover word for Muslims). Who did you think Obama was talking about when he said "Arab & Pakistani Americans" ? Jews ? Mormons ?
It was in his 2006 book about the aftermath of 9/11 when American citizens were facing retribution for those attacks. If, because of your twisted kind of xenophobia, you can't understand what he meant, I can't help you.

Safety
02-07-2015, 08:54 AM
It was in his 2006 book about the aftermath of 9/11 when American citizens were facing retribution for those attacks. If, because of your twisted kind of xenophobia, you can't understand what he meant, I can't help you.

ABCmouse.com can't even help him.

Mac-7
02-07-2015, 08:57 AM
It was in his 2006 book about the aftermath of 9/11 when American citizens were facing retribution for those attacks. If, because of your twisted kind of xenophobia, you can't understand what he meant, I can't help you.

America did not mistreat the Muslims after 9-11.

We have stupidly allowed millions to immigrate to America since then.

protectionist
02-07-2015, 03:10 PM
They call them Pakis. :smiley:

Maybe so, but does this mean you are unaware of the common use of the word "Asians" to describe Muslims in Britain ?

protectionist
02-07-2015, 03:13 PM
Sorry, I grew up in Britain - the British do not use the word 'Asians' to mean Muslims (neither do the Australians). The word Asians is used to mean people who come from Asia, from China to South-East Asia (Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, etc.) and people who come from the Indian sub-continent - it doesn't matter what their religion is (they can be Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Sikhs, or Christians).

Sorry, it doesn't matter where you grew up. The Brits very commonly use the word "Asians" to describe Muslims. That is a FACT, not opinion. Would you like a long list of links to articles where the word Asians is used in place of Muslims. Do you have to be shown ?

PS - 14 is too young to be in a forum like this.

protectionist
02-07-2015, 03:16 PM
Oh. I'm sorry. It was a small blurb in a big story about the prayer breakfast. Where he reiterated the topics of the meeting.

Here's the story on the so-called secret meeting.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obama-participates-in-long-requested-meeting-with-muslim-americans/2015/02/06/4fe1d45a-ae10-11e4-abe8-e1ef60ca26de_story.html

Just as a heads up, the next meeting, a full one, will be Feb 18th.
Get your tin hats ready!

EARTH TO HOWEY: I POSTED the link about the secret meeting already back on page 1 (Post # 10), and YOU KNOW THAT, because you just posted that in your quote, so why do you post a link that YOU KNOW has already been posted ? (and then was posted again by Texan in Post # 55)

Trying to take the credit for what someone else has already done ? (as well as deflect attention from your error)

protectionist
02-07-2015, 03:24 PM
It was in his 2006 book about the aftermath of 9/11 when American citizens were facing retribution for those attacks. If, because of your twisted kind of xenophobia, you can't understand what he meant, I can't help you.

If, because of your twisted kind of Islamapology, which results from tuning out all conservative media, leaving you with only liberal media, which blacks out Islamization entirely, leaving you with a major ignorance of it, you can't understand what he meant, I CAN help you a great deal. Click the link >>

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/38980-Protectionist-s-Political-LIFE-STORY-(You-ll-be-Amazed)

protectionist
02-07-2015, 03:30 PM
ABCmouse.com can't even help him.

Still going with the pathetic demean the messenger, when you can't defeat the message tactic, huh Safety ? Well you're not safe at all doing that. You exposed yourself when you punked out from the Islamization Quiz, showing your insults to be nothing more than a paper shield to cover up your lack of knowledge on this issue. (and your fear of me)

The Quiz is right here. See Post # 8 Want to find out how much you don't know ? >>> http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/38980-Protectionist-s-Political-LIFE-STORY-(You-ll-be-Amazed)

Peter1469
02-07-2015, 03:46 PM
Maybe so, but does this mean you are unaware of the common use of the word "Asians" to describe Muslims in Britain ?

I have not heard it. But Pakistan is in Southwest Asia....

William
02-07-2015, 10:18 PM
Sorry, it doesn't matter where you grew up. The Brits very commonly use the word "Asians" to describe Muslims. That is a FACT, not opinion. Would you like a long list of links to articles where the word Asians is used in place of Muslims. Do you have to be shown ?

Do you live in the UK - we did til like two and a half years ago. I never heard anyone call Muslims 'Asians' just cos they are Muslims, and I went to school with Muslim kids.

And BTW, it is rude to use all caps in a word - that is the same as shouting at someone when you are talking.

Sure, post your links (I'm interested), but there are lots of Muslims in sub-Saharan Africa, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Turkey, Syria, Algeria, Morocco, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Yemen, Russia and Bosnia, as well as the Asian countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, and China. So it just doesn't make any sense to call all Muslims 'Asians', and most Brits don't (doesn't matter how many caps you use :grin:).


PS - 14 is too young to be in a forum like this.

Some boards will not let you join if you are under 13 - dunno about this one - but that's why I waited til I turned 14 before joining. I don't think being 14 is against the rules, and neway I will be 15 later this year.

So what's the prob with my age? And like I could have told porkies and said I was 25 or something, but I was honest about it. If you don't like what I say then you can (a) tell me what's wrong, or (b) not read or reply to my posts. Nobody else here says "Go away - you're too young!" :embarrassed:

Safety
02-07-2015, 10:34 PM
Do you live in the UK - we did til like two and a half years ago. I never heard anyone call Muslims 'Asians' just cos they are Muslims, and I went to school with Muslim kids.

And BTW, it is rude to use all caps in a word - that is the same as shouting at someone when you are talking.

Sure, post your links (I'm interested), but there are lots of Muslims in sub-Saharan Africa, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Turkey, Syria, Algeria, Morocco, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Yemen, Russia and Bosnia, as well as the Asian countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, and China. So it just doesn't make any sense to call all Muslims 'Asians', and most Brits don't (doesn't matter how many caps you use :grin:).



Some boards will not let you join if you are under 13 - dunno about this one - but that's why I waited til I turned 14 before joining. I don't think being 14 is against the rules, and neway I will be 15 later this year.

So what's the prob with my age? And like I could have told porkies and said I was 25 or something, but I was honest about it. If you don't like what I say then you can (a) tell me what's wrong, or (b) not read or reply to my posts. Nobody else here says "Go away - you're too young!" :embarrassed:

He's upset that a 14yo is kicking his ass in a debate.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 01:19 AM
I have not heard it. But Pakistan is in Southwest Asia....

In Britain, the Liberal Brit call Muslims "Asians" even if they are from South America. It has nothing to do with geography. I tis the liberal fanaticism with, at all costs, not saying or doing anything that could be interpreted as racist or anti-Muslim.

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 02:01 AM
Sorry, it doesn't matter where you grew up. The Brits very commonly use the word "Asians" to describe Muslims. That is a FACT, not opinion. Would you like a long list of links to articles where the word Asians is used in place of Muslims. Do you have to be shown ?

PS - 14 is too young to be in a forum like this.

I personally want every link you can find that confirms this...

PS Age does not define maturity...

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 02:02 AM
He's upset that a 14yo is kicking his ass in a debate.

I may not have been posting regularly long, but somehow that doesn't surprise me...

protectionist
02-08-2015, 02:05 AM
Do you live in the UK - we did til like two and a half years ago. I never heard anyone call Muslims 'Asians' just cos they are Muslims, and I went to school with Muslim kids.

And BTW, it is rude to use all caps in a word - that is the same as shouting at someone when you are talking.

Sure, post your links (I'm interested), but there are lots of Muslims in sub-Saharan Africa, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Turkey, Syria, Algeria, Morocco, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Yemen, Russia and Bosnia, as well as the Asian countries like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, and China. So it just doesn't make any sense to call all Muslims 'Asians', and most Brits don't (doesn't matter how many caps you use :grin:).

Some boards will not let you join if you are under 13 - dunno about this one - but that's why I waited til I turned 14 before joining. I don't think being 14 is against the rules, and neway I will be 15 later this year.

So what's the prob with my age? And like I could have told porkies and said I was 25 or something, but I was honest about it. If you don't like what I say then you can (a) tell me what's wrong, or (b) not read or reply to my posts. Nobody else here says "Go away - you're too young!" :embarrassed:

1. No I don't live in the UK, and that is irrelevant to the issue of Brits using "Asians" as a cover word for Muslims. This is so well known that it is almost incomprehensible that anyone is even questioning it (but in this forum, anything is possible) It must be because those on the liberal side are reading totally different reports. It's like we're living in 2 separate worlds. Problem comes in when liberals expect us Conservatives to be in the same game as them, when due to their media blackouts, they haven't even arrived a the ballpark.

2. No. It's not rude to use caps, and it has nothing to do with shouting. That's just your misinterpretation. The caps are useful in a written format to express stress words, that in speech, ordinarily would be stressed by a variance of the voice. Since there is no voice here, caps take the place of those audible variances. You may have noticed that I also use italics and colors too. They also have reason. The italics are used to show the name of a book or movie or a quotation. For quotations of mine, blue is used. For quotation of others, I use blue or red. Blue for those I agree with. Red for those I don't. All this makes the posting more understandable, and is why they are there to begin with.

3. I think forums like this should be adults only. You'll have plenty of time for this. Right now, you would probably be better off reading your school textbooks, or watching your assigned videos.

4. As for what nobody else here says, that's OK, I say 1000 things that nobody else here says. LOL.

5. http://therightscoop.com/code-words-much-daily-mail-reports-on-asians-who-sexually-exploited-1400-girls-in-one-town-in-england/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9314448/Its-time-to-stop-using-the-word-Asians.html

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Asian_or_Muslim

http://europenews.dk/en/node/82574

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100821055005AAEB1tV

http://www.fahrenheit211.net/2014/11/19/the-correct-word-to-use-is-not-asian-but-muslim/

protectionist
02-08-2015, 02:08 AM
He's upset that a 14yo is kicking his ass in a debate.

You're going deeper and deeper into decline every time you post, Mr. QUIZ ZERO. By now everyone knows your attacks on me are nothing but you shitting in your pants, and trying to cover it up, as best you can (and not doing a very good job of it) I'll give you one thing though. You're pretty good at talking while you're running away as fast as you can. Still afraid of the quiz ?

protectionist
02-08-2015, 02:11 AM
I personally want every link you can find that confirms this...

PS Age does not define maturity...

Like you couldn't find any on your own, right ? HA HA.

EARTH TO HAL: Google this >> British word Asians -meaning Muslims. I did, and got 1,840,000 hits. Here's the Google link > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=British+word+Asians+-meaning+Muslims

PS - age has a lot to do with maturity. Only idiots don't know that. And regardless of maturity, this isn't a cool place for a 14 year old kid.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 02:14 AM
I may not have been posting regularly long, but somehow that doesn't surprise me...

Somehow you're going to be another jerk in this forum, if you aren't already.

Redrose
02-08-2015, 02:17 AM
The Daily Mail refers to them as "Asians" and the Middle East nations are in Asia, so I can't see why there is any discussion with the use of that name. Russians would be Asians too. It's a generalized term for anyone who lives on the continent of Asia.

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 02:36 AM
2. No. It's not rude to use caps, and it has nothing to do with shouting. That's just your misinterpretation. The caps are useful in a written format to express stress words, that in speech, ordinarily would be stressed by a variance of the voice. Since there is no voice here, caps take the place of those audible variances. You may have noticed that I also use italics and colors too. They also have reason. The italics are used to show the name of a book or movie or a quotation. For quotations of mine, blue is used. For quotation of others, I use blue or red. Blue for those I agree with. Red for those I don't. All this makes the posting more understandable, and is why they are there to begin with.
Actually, on the internet, where you have access to tools such as italics and bold, it is considered shouting.



5. http://therightscoop.com/code-words-much-daily-mail-reports-on-asians-who-sexually-exploited-1400-girls-in-one-town-in-england/

Pakistan is in Asia. Use of Asian is acceptable.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9314448/Its-time-to-stop-using-the-word-Asians.html

Again, Pakistan is in Asia. Usage makes sense.


http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Asian_or_Muslim

Again, It is talking about Pakistanis. It does mention Afghanistan, which is in Asia... Also, it has an update that the media source in question no longer uses that term...


http://europenews.dk/en/node/82574

Just more of the same...


https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100821055005AAEB1tV

Again, more of the same...


http://www.fahrenheit211.net/2014/11/19/the-correct-word-to-use-is-not-asian-but-muslim/

This is the only link where a location is not named, but it is from a clearly biased source, with no real evidence...

Try again... More links, please...

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 02:48 AM
Like you couldn't find any on your own, right ? HA HA.

EARTH TO HAL: Google this >> British word Asians -meaning Muslims. I did, and got 1,840,000 hits. Here's the Google link > https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=British+word+Asians+-meaning+Muslims

PS - age has a lot to do with maturity. Only idiots don't know that. And regardless of maturity, this isn't a cool place for a 14 year old kid.

First, those hits, when they actually refer to Muslims as being Asian, all refer to location, so that is accurate... There are many links in that search that don't refer to the British calling Muslims Asian at all... Of course, I stopped at the third page of the search because if I was going to find something that supported your claim, at least one of the links there should have it...

PS I've seen 14 year olds with more maturity than some 90 year olds... Only idiots would think that maturity comes from age. I completely disagree. If they are mature enough to hold their own in an intellectual debate in a political forum, by all means, let them. If they are wrong, they can learn a lot from this forum. Either way, we can all learn much from the youth. Jesus respected the youth, why shouldn't you?

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 02:50 AM
Somehow you're going to be another jerk in this forum, if you aren't already.

If by jerk you mean someone that doesn't blindly follow what someone else says,

10399

Dr. Who
02-08-2015, 02:51 AM
1. No I don't live in the UK, and that is irrelevant to the issue of Brits using "Asians" as a cover word for Muslims. This is so well known that it is almost incomprehensible that anyone is even questioning it (but in this forum, anything is possible) It must be because those on the liberal side are reading totally different reports. It's like we're living in 2 separate worlds. Problem comes in when liberals expect us Conservatives to be in the same game as them, when due to their media blackouts, they haven't even arrived a the ballpark.

2. No. It's not rude to use caps, and it has nothing to do with shouting. That's just your misinterpretation. The caps are useful in a written format to express stress words, that in speech, ordinarily would be stressed by a variance of the voice. Since there is no voice here, caps take the place of those audible variances. You may have noticed that I also use italics and colors too. They also have reason. The italics are used to show the name of a book or movie or a quotation. For quotations of mine, blue is used. For quotation of others, I use blue or red. Blue for those I agree with. Red for those I don't. All this makes the posting more understandable, and is why they are there to begin with.

3. I think forums like this should be adults only. You'll have plenty of time for this. Right now, you would probably be better off reading your school textbooks, or watching your assigned videos.

4. As for what nobody else here says, that's OK, I say 1000 things that nobody else here says. LOL.

5. http://therightscoop.com/code-words-much-daily-mail-reports-on-asians-who-sexually-exploited-1400-girls-in-one-town-in-england/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9314448/Its-time-to-stop-using-the-word-Asians.html

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Asian_or_Muslim

http://europenews.dk/en/node/82574

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100821055005AAEB1tV

http://www.fahrenheit211.net/2014/11/19/the-correct-word-to-use-is-not-asian-but-muslim/

Young William is correct about the use of caps. Internet etiquette equates the use of caps with yelling. The use of special colors to punctuate your post is beyond yelling - it is using a loudspeaker to convey your point of view. Both are considered rather rude and offensive to people who are accustomed to internet protocol.

William
02-08-2015, 04:08 AM
1. No I don't live in the UK, and that is irrelevant to the issue of Brits using "Asians" as a cover word for Muslims. This is so well known that it is almost incomprehensible that anyone is even questioning it (but in this forum, anything is possible)...

Actually, I asked three people - my mum and dad over here, and my uncle in London, about this before I posted. They all agreed with what I have heard when we lived there. People use the word 'Asians' to mean everyone from India, China, the Middle East, and places like that, specially when they are brown, and we don't know exactly where they are from. But they would never call an African from Nigeria, or someone from Bosnia and Herzegovina an Asian, even if they know he/she is Muslim.


3. I think forums like this should be adults only. You'll have plenty of time for this. Right now, you would probably be better off reading your school textbooks, or watching your assigned videos.

I respectfully don't agree. In the two months I've been posting here, I've learned loads of cool stuff, and some of it has actually helped me with my assignments. And you might not think so, but at my age I'm no longer a kid. We've had sex ed and all that stuff, so I'm not going to be gob-smacked by anything I read here.


5. http://therightscoop.com/code-words-much-daily-mail-reports-on-asians-who-sexually-exploited-1400-girls-in-one-town-in-england/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9314448/Its-time-to-stop-using-the-word-Asians.html

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Asian_or_Muslim

http://europenews.dk/en/node/82574

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100821055005AAEB1tV

http://www.fahrenheit211.net/2014/11/19/the-correct-word-to-use-is-not-asian-but-muslim/

Well thanks for those links, but as Hal Jordan said in his post, none of them prove that Brits use the word 'Asians' for all Muslims. Also some of those are just blogs (we are never allowed to use blogs as reference sources in our assignments). :smiley:

protectionist
02-08-2015, 04:20 AM
If by jerk you mean someone that doesn't blindly follow what someone else says,

10399

Yes, I am right. No need for the confirmation, but it's the thought that counts.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 04:25 AM
Actually, I asked three people - my mum and dad over here, and my uncle in London, about this before I posted. They all agreed with what I have heard when we lived there. People use the word 'Asians' to mean everyone from India, China, the Middle East, and places like that, specially when they are brown, and we don't know exactly where they are from. But they would never call an African from Nigeria, or someone from Bosnia and Herzegovina an Asian, even if they know he/she is Muslim.

I respectfully don't agree. In the two months I've been posting here, I've learned loads of cool stuff, and some of it has actually helped me with my assignments. And you might not think so, but at my age I'm no longer a kid. We've had sex ed and all that stuff, so I'm not going to be gob-smacked by anything I read here.

Well thanks for those links, but as Hal Jordan said in his post, none of them prove that Brits use the word 'Asians' for all Muslims. Also some of those are just blogs (we are never allowed to use blogs as reference sources in our assignments). :smiley:

1. Millions of liberals, and some conservatives too, don't know that liberal Brits call Muslims "Asians". when it comes to Islamization, people not knowing about it is VERY common.

2. You'll still be a "kid" 20 years from now. I don't consider anyone under 35 mature. Why do you think that is the requirement to be president of the USA ?

3. Of course the links prove it. Trouble with this forum is people getting in the habit of saying the sky isn't blue, and expecting to get away with it. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/geez.gif (javascript:void(0))

protectionist
02-08-2015, 04:28 AM
Young William is correct about the use of caps. Internet etiquette equates the use of caps with yelling. The use of special colors to punctuate your post is beyond yelling - it is using a loudspeaker to convey your point of view. Both are considered rather rude and offensive to people who are accustomed to internet protocol.

I've been posting the way I post for 10 years, and in my other forums, I've received compliments on it. I regard these, and what I said in Post # 78, as the correct analysis. You can call it however you please.

Your interpretation also is inferior to my style because it has no way of compensating for the lack of audible stressing, and thus is deficient in its communication level. You would be better to come UP to my communication standards, rather than be having me drop DOWN to yours.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 04:37 AM
First, those hits, when they actually refer to Muslims as being Asian, all refer to location, so that is accurate... There are many links in that search that don't refer to the British calling Muslims Asian at all... Of course, I stopped at the third page of the search because if I was going to find something that supported your claim, at least one of the links there should have it...

PS I've seen 14 year olds with more maturity than some 90 year olds... Only idiots would think that maturity comes from age. I completely disagree. If they are mature enough to hold their own in an intellectual debate in a political forum, by all means, let them. If they are wrong, they can learn a lot from this forum. Either way, we can all learn much from the youth. Jesus respected the youth, why shouldn't you?

Do you think you're going to get away with coming on this forum an LYING to me ? NO you're not. The Google link I gave you has LOTS of links talking about Brits referring to Mulsims as Asians. Every link I gave William does that.

Don't ever come in this forum and try to bullshiit me aqain. You're new here. A word of advice. If you come in here and start trolling, you're going to get your ass handed to you, newbie boy.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 04:42 AM
The Daily Mail refers to them as "Asians" and the Middle East nations are in Asia, so I can't see why there is any discussion with the use of that name. Russians would be Asians too. It's a generalized term for anyone who lives on the continent of Asia.

Of course. But it is also used by ultra-liberal Brits to avoid using the word Muslims. Click the link >>

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=British+word+Asians+-meaning+Muslims

and you'll find almost 2 million hits on this subject.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 04:51 AM
Actually, on the internet, where you have access to tools such as italics and bold, it is considered shouti
Pakistan is in Asia. Use of Asian is accept
Again, Pakistan is in Asia. Usage makes sense.
Again, It is talking about Pakistanis. It does mention Afghanistan, which is in Asia... Also, it has an update that the media source in question no longer uses that term
Just more of the same
Again, more of the same.
This is the only link where a location is not named, but it is from a clearly biased source, with no real evidence..
Try again... More links, please...

NO. I don't have to try again, nor do I have to give more links. I did all that was needed and much more. ALL the links I gave William showed the point of Brits calling Muslims Asians, and anyone can easily see that just by reading them. I don't need to do anything more just to accomodate a filthy, stinking LIAR > YOU.

You're asking for trouble, boy, and that's just what you're gonna get.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 04:57 AM
Actually, on the internet, where you have access to tools such as italics and bold, it is considered shouting.

Pakistan is in Asia. Use of Asian is acceptable.

Again, Pakistan is in Asia. Usage makes sense.

Again, It is talking about Pakistanis. It does mention Afghanistan, which is in Asia... Also, it has an update that the media source in question no longer uses that term...

Just more of the same..

Again, more of the same..

This is the only link where a location is not named, but it is from a clearly biased source, with no real evidence...

Try again... More links, please...

The very first one I looked up (right scoop) proves you a LIAR. The very first 4 words in the title says just what I was talking about >> "AFRAID TO SAY MUSLIM ?"

Here's the whole title >> AFRAID TO SAY MUSLIM? Daily Mail reports on ‘Asians’ who sexually exploited 1400 girls in one town in England (http://therightscoop.com/code-words-much-daily-mail-reports-on-asians-who-sexually-exploited-1400-girls-in-one-town-in-england/)

Notice they put the word "Asians" in quotation marks. Guess why they did that, Mr Fraud ?

Oh just talking about being from Pakistan, huh ? Well, if that were the case, then right in the heart of the text of the article, they wouldn't have said THIS, would they ? >>>

"Yeah, these men aren’t just Asian, they’re Muslim and the Daily Mail is afraid to say it. And what’s amazing is this case isn’t new. Just google it and you’ll find many sites talking about this Muslim pedophile gang from Rotherham.
So there’s your irony. Social Workers didn’t save these girls for fear of being racist and the Daily Mail doesn’t want to be racist either, so they use the code word ‘Asian’ for Muslim."

OK. Lets take another link that you tried to get away with saying only referred to people from Asia. AGAIN, same thing. There it is right in the title >> again quotation marks around Asians, because the usage of the word is being questioned. This is OBVIOUS. And your deceit is just as obvious. Boy, are we ever going to have to keep our eyes on you.

Title of the UK Telegraph article >>>

It's time to stop using the word 'Asians'

In the wake of the Rochdale grooming convictions, it's time to stop lumping Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus together as 'Asians', argues Hardeep Singh.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9314448/Its-time-to-stop-using-the-word-Asians.html

William
02-08-2015, 06:43 AM
1. Millions of liberals, and some conservatives too, don't know that liberal Brits call Muslims "Asians". when it comes to Islamization, people not knowing about it is VERY common.

TBH, I don't totally understand who Americans call 'liberals'. Do you think my mum and dad (and my uncle in London) are 'liberals'? And if you do - why?

And how is it bad to be a 'liberal'? When I look up the definition of 'liberal' it says -

1.
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
"liberal views towards divorce"

favourable to or respectful of individual rights and freedoms.
"liberal citizenship laws"

2.
(of education) concerned with broadening a person's general knowledge and experience, rather than with merely technical or professional training.

How can any of that be bad? :huh:


2. You'll still be a "kid" 20 years from now. I don't consider anyone under 35 mature. Why do you think that is the requirement to be president of the USA ?

LOL! So you think my mum and dad have only just become 'mature'? My mum turns 36 next birthday, and my dad is a year older - and my uncle is still a 'kid' cos he is only 32? Can't wait to tell them - my dad and my uncle will be really peed off! :grin:


3. Of course the links prove it. Trouble with this forum is people getting in the habit of saying the sky isn't blue, and expecting to get away with it. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/geez.gif (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0))

With respect, the links don't. What they prove is something I already know - that Brits often call people 'Asians' when they don't really know where they are from - cos they look 'brown'. OK, some newspaper might use 'Asians' instead of 'Muslims' to avoid giving offence (and they shouldn't do that cos they offend non-Muslim Asians,) but it is not the word that all Brits use for Muslims. Ask some Brits, don't just take the word of a blog.

Mac-7
02-08-2015, 06:57 AM
TBH, I don't totally understand who Americans call 'liberals'. Do you think my mum and dad (and my uncle in London) are 'liberals'? And if you do - why?

And how is it bad to be a 'liberal'? When I look up the definition of 'liberal' it says -

1.
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
"liberal views towards divorce"

favourable to or respectful of individual rights and freedoms.
"liberal citizenship laws"

2.
(of education) concerned with broadening a person's general knowledge and experience, rather than with merely technical or professional training.

How can any of that be bad? :huh:



LOL! So you think my mum and dad have only just become 'mature'? My mum turns 36 next birthday, and my dad is a year older - and my uncle is still a 'kid' cos he is only 32? Can't wait to tell them - my dad and my uncle will be really peed off! :grin:



With respect, the links don't. What they prove is something I already know - that Brits often call people 'Asians' when they don't really know where they are from - cos they look 'brown'. OK, some newspaper might use 'Asians' instead of 'Muslims' to avoid giving offence (and they shouldn't do that cos they offend non-Muslim Asians,) but it is not the word that all Brits use for Muslims. Ask some Brits, don't just take the word of a blog.


All i I can tell you about your static textbook definition of liberals is that in America most people avoid the label for themselves.

It has become a toxic symbol for most people.

there are libs working tirelessly in academia and the democrat party for an antidote to being called a liberal.

PolWatch
02-08-2015, 08:21 AM
William - your teachers are correct in not allowing blogs to be used as a reference. Blogs are opinions....some people don't realize that or else they believe because its on the internet, its got to be true. The only time a blog should be used as a reference is an example of how far-fetched some ideas are.

Don't let the remarks about age bother you. I was concerned when you first started posting here (old ladies are allowed to worry) but I am fairly certain your parents have checked the site. You have proven to be an intelligent, mature poster. You contribute to the forum and we are glad to have you here. Some people use age as another criteria to discount new or different ideas....they are sort who use race or religion as an excuse to ignore another person's opinions. Its called being a grumpy old git...(see? I have learned from you)

Even I (not the most computer savvy person in the world), know that using all caps, colored or oversized font is rude behavior. Some people just don't care. Another symptom of being a git....

midcan5
02-08-2015, 08:40 AM
The truth is often a tough pill to swallow. Any intelligent reader of history would face the reality that all groups engage in groupthink and it is always the other who is evil. "We first kill people with our minds, before we kill them with weapons. Whatever the conflict, the enemy is always the destroyer. We're on God's side; they're barbaric. We're good, they're evil. War gives us a feeling of moral clarity that we lack at other times." Sam Keen

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/02/14/10-outrageous-reasons-black-people-were-lynched-in-america/

"The southern Christian churches conducted something like a genocide against the slaves. British North America and then the USA kidnapped and enslaved about 500,000 persons from 1600 to 1808. In addition, the North American slavers killed off about 200,000 Africans trying to capture people in Africa or let them die in the unsanitary holds of the Middle Passage across the Atlantic. Once they were on the plantations, the slaves were often worked to death; in 1830-1860 only 10 percent were over 50 years old. Their children were kidnapped from them and sold. Women and men who formed common law unions were separated and sold. Ten to 20 percent of what became over time 4 million slaves had been Muslim but their religion was stolen from them and they were forcibly converted to Christianity. Southern Christian seminaries produced an endless stream of theological writing upholding all these criminal acts. It was done very much in the name of the Bible." http://www.juancole.com/2015/02/standard-christian-atrocities.html

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/26728-This-is-on-my-news-for-the-past-few-days?p=633891&viewfull=1#post633891


"The devil is an optimist if he thinks he can make people worse than they are." Karl Kraus

silvereyes
02-08-2015, 11:41 AM
Some idiotic conspiracy nonsense that was debunked years ago. Only some die hard loons hold on to it. They're ranked somewhere below birthers on the relevance scale.
Thank you. I thought id missed out on my own handy-dandy secret society ring. I guess i can stop practicing the "my precious" mantra. Darn! And i was getting so good at it!

silvereyes
02-08-2015, 11:49 AM
Warning: Please don’t call members names.

Ahhhhmmmm...im telling mom....Now lookit what you went and did capn. You made dad bust out with the dreaded sign. At least he picked the purty pink one.

silvereyes
02-08-2015, 11:52 AM
http://m.digitaljournal.com/article/334716

silvereyes
02-08-2015, 12:12 PM
Do you think you're going to get away with coming on this forum an LYING to me ? NO you're not. The Google link I gave you has LOTS of links talking about Brits referring to Mulsims as Asians. Every link I gave William does that.

Don't ever come in this forum and try to bullshiit me aqain. You're new here. A word of advice. If you come in here and start trolling, you're going to get your ass handed to you, newbie boy.
Who the heck died and made you forum boss? Thats probably the rudest thing ive read in a long time. Hes welcome here. Very welcome. Hes always polite, eloquent and gives well thought out replies.....unlike you. He doesnt stand on a soap box and weller and beller....unlike you.

silvereyes
02-08-2015, 12:14 PM
William - your teachers are correct in not allowing blogs to be used as a reference. Blogs are opinions....some people don't realize that or else they believe because its on the internet, its got to be true. The only time a blog should be used as a reference is an example of how far-fetched some ideas are.

Don't let the remarks about age bother you. I was concerned when you first started posting here (old ladies are allowed to worry) but I am fairly certain your parents have checked the site. You have proven to be an intelligent, mature poster. You contribute to the forum and we are glad to have you here. Some people use age as another criteria to discount new or different ideas....they are sort who use race or religion as an excuse to ignore another person's opinions. Its called being a grumpy old git...(see? I have learned from you)

Even I (not the most computer savvy person in the world), know that using all caps, colored or oversized font is rude behavior. Some people just don't care. Another symptom of being a git....
Lmao......hahahahaha! Silver laughs while william frantically googles the word git. :laughing7:

protectionist
02-08-2015, 01:45 PM
TBH, I don't totally understand who Americans call 'liberals'. Do you think my mum and dad (and my uncle in London) are 'liberals'? And if you do - why?

And how is it bad to be a 'liberal'? When I look up the definition of 'liberal' it says -

1.
willing to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own; open to new ideas.
"liberal views towards divorce"

favourable to or respectful of individual rights and freedoms.
"liberal citizenship laws"

2.
(of education) concerned with broadening a person's general knowledge and experience, rather than with merely technical or professional training.

How can any of that be bad? :huh:

LOL! So you think my mum and dad have only just become 'mature'? My mum turns 36 next birthday, and my dad is a year older - and my uncle is still a 'kid' cos he is only 32? Can't wait to tell them - my dad and my uncle will be really peed off! :grin:

With respect, the links don't. What they prove is something I already know - that Brits often call people 'Asians' when they don't really know where they are from - cos they look 'brown'. OK, some newspaper might use 'Asians' instead of 'Muslims' to avoid giving offence (and they shouldn't do that cos they offend non-Muslim Asians,) but it is not the word that all Brits use for Muslims. Ask some Brits, don't just take the word of a blog.

1. I generally don't respond to stuff straying off the topic currently discussed (Brits calling Muslims, "Asians")

2. Yeah, I think your mum and dad have only just become 'mature'. And so does the US govt. And maybe they still aren't mature if they know you're on this computer board and are letting you do it. Tell them I said "Hey! Watch your kid."

3. With respect, the links DO, and that was proved beyond any doubt in Post # 94. Listen kid. You're only 14, and you can pick up some very bad habits in this forum. One of them is lying to try to get your way. I would strongly advise you to not copy the trash put forth here by Hal Jordan, who I suspect is a Muslim Islamist (if not full-blown cyber-jihadist), propagandizing with an American sounding name.
No lying was ever more clearly exposed than his, as I exposed it in Post # 94.
As for all Brits I didn't say ALL Brits call Muslims "Asians".. I've been saying all along that SOME of them do. The ultra-liberal ones, who are afraid of being called a racist. Of course, all Brits don't do it, and the links didn't say ALL Brits did either.

Like the quote I posted in Post # 94, it says >> the Daily Mail doesn’t want to be racist either, so they use the code word ‘Asian’ for Muslim." OK. Its talking about the Daily Mail (that's not ALL Brits), and even that is jus the head honchos of the DM, which makes everyone there have to say it, if they want to keep their jobs.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 01:48 PM
@William (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1351) - your teachers are correct in not allowing blogs to be used as a reference. Blogs are opinions....some people don't realize that or else they believe because its on the internet, its got to be true. The only time a blog should be used as a reference is an example of how far-fetched some ideas are.

Don't let the remarks about age bother you. I was concerned when you first started posting here (old ladies are allowed to worry) but I am fairly certain your parents have checked the site. You have proven to be an intelligent, mature poster. You contribute to the forum and we are glad to have you here. Some people use age as another criteria to discount new or different ideas....they are sort who use race or religion as an excuse to ignore another person's opinions. Its called being a grumpy old git...(see? I have learned from you)

Even I (not the most computer savvy person in the world), know that using all caps, colored or oversized font is rude behavior. Some people just don't care. Another symptom of being a git....

NO, you DON'T know it, and your posting is inferior as a result. You could make your thoughts better understood if you posted as I do, using the various tools available to you (color, italics, capitals, underlining, bold print, size, and fonts). Why do think they were put there ? Just for show ? And you shouldn't be giving children misinformation, and yes their parents are being negligent, you went wrong on that too.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 02:15 PM
The truth is often a tough pill to swallow. Any intelligent reader of history would face the reality that all groups engage in groupthink and it is always the other who is evil. "We first kill people with our minds, before we kill them with weapons. Whatever the conflict, the enemy is always the destroyer. We're on God's side; they're barbaric. We're good, they're evil. War gives us a feeling of moral clarity that we lack at other times." Sam Keen

http://atlantablackstar.com/2014/02/14/10-outrageous-reasons-black-people-were-lynched-in-america/

"The southern Christian churches conducted something like a genocide against the slaves. British North America and then the USA kidnapped and enslaved about 500,000 persons from 1600 to 1808. In addition, the North American slavers killed off about 200,000 Africans trying to capture people in Africa or let them die in the unsanitary holds of the Middle Passage across the Atlantic. Once they were on the plantations, the slaves were often worked to death; in 1830-1860 only 10 percent were over 50 years old. Their children were kidnapped from them and sold. Women and men who formed common law unions were separated and sold. Ten to 20 percent of what became over time 4 million slaves had been Muslim but their religion was stolen from them and they were forcibly converted to Christianity. Southern Christian seminaries produced an endless stream of theological writing upholding all these criminal acts. It was done very much in the name of the Bible." http://www.juancole.com/2015/02/standard-christian-atrocities.html

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/26728-This-is-on-my-news-for-the-past-few-days?p=633891&viewfull=1#post633891

"The devil is an optimist if he thinks he can make people worse than they are." Karl Kraus

This jibberish sounds like more of Obama's idiotic tirade against Christians referring to the Crusades, the Inquisition, slavery and Jim Crow. What a dumb post. Nothing could be dumber than to try to defend Muslims by talking about forcible conversions. At one time, none of the Middle East was Muslim. It was all Jewish and Christian. Now, it's almost all Muslim as is North Africa (which never was Muslim). All this became Muslim because of marauding Muslims, who killed 270 million people around the world to spread their filthy ideology (masquerading as a religion). They killed 120 Million Africans (and enslaved many more, hundreds of years before the first slave ship arrived in America). They killed 80 million Hindus, 60 million Christians, 10 million Buddhists, and they continue to commit their mass genocide today, all over the world.

Arab Muslims are the # 1 enslavers of all time. In fact, slavery is so entrenched in the Islamic world that the Arabic word for black (abed) also means slave (AKA abeed). Slavery is advocated in the Koran, and Mo the Pedophile himself had dozens of slaves, including women and children, whom he raped consistently (also advocated in the Koran). And slavery continues today in guess where. The Muslim north of Africa (Sudan, Mauritania, etc) Another one of my past readings I would recommend if the book Escape From Slavery by Francis Bok. Here is the introduction to it in the Amazon write-up >> "May 1986: Seven-year-old Francis Bok was selling his mother's eggs and peanuts near his village in southern Sudan when Arab raiders on horseback burst into the quiet marketplace, murdering men and gathering the women and young children into a group. Strapped to horses and donkeys, Francis and others were taken north into lives of slavery under wealthy Muslim farmers."

The Muslims who were converted to Christianity that this Islamapologist talks about, were probably only Muslims because, like almost all Muslims living today, they were Muslims only because their ancestors were killed, or forced to become Muslims at the point of a sword. Hell of a way for someone to call himself a Muslim.

http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Slavery-Captivity-Journey-Freedom/dp/0312306245

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeed

protectionist
02-08-2015, 02:28 PM
Some idiotic conspiracy nonsense that was debunked years ago. Only some die hard loons hold on to it. They're ranked somewhere below birthers on the relevance scale.

Liberals love to say that controversies that are current (if not increasing in information and discussion) have been debunked. Oh yeah. We're all supposed to sit back and take an Islamization know-nothing liberal's word for something about Islamization, right. Pheeeeeww!! (high-pitched whistle) :rollseyes: HA HA HA.

Obama's Islamism is not just revealed by his Shehada ring. It is revealed every time he opens up his mouth about anything that pertains to Muslims, as well as his actions (such as having Muslim Brotherhooders working in his White House, inviting more of them to his secret meeting at the White House a few days ago -closed to the press, supporting the MB Morsi govt in Egypt, before the Egyptians had the good sense to get rid of them, releasing dangerous Muslim terrorists from Gitmo, wanting to close Gitmo, backing EEOC lawsuits filed by Muslims against Americns and American companies, refusing to use the words Muslim, Islamic, jihadist, terrorist, etc, etc)

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/39021-Obama-Administration-the-Muslim-Brotherhood?p=954258#post954258

PolWatch
02-08-2015, 02:31 PM
I can tell its nap time....

Common
02-08-2015, 02:38 PM
Do you think you're going to get away with coming on this forum an LYING to me ? NO you're not. The Google link I gave you has LOTS of links talking about Brits referring to Mulsims as Asians. Every link I gave William does that.

Don't ever come in this forum and try to bullshiit me aqain. You're new here. A word of advice. If you come in here and start trolling, you're going to get your ass handed to you, newbie boy.

Did someone die and make you forum commandant, youre pretty new here yourself.
His post was courteous unlike yours.

silvereyes
02-08-2015, 02:42 PM
1. I generally don't respond to stuff straying off the topic currently discussed (Brits calling Muslims, "Asians")

2. Yeah, I think your mum and dad have only just become 'mature'. And so does the US govt. And maybe they still aren't mature if they know you're on this computer board and are letting you do it. Tell them I said "Hey! Watch your kid."

3. With respect, the links DO, and that was proved beyond any doubt in Post # 94. Listen kid. You're only 14, and you can pick up some very bad habits in this forum. One of them is lying to try to get your way. I would strongly advise you to not copy the trash put forth here by Hal Jordan, who I suspect is a Muslim Islamist (if not full-blown cyber-jihadist), propagandizing with an American sounding name.
No lying was ever more clearly exposed than his, as I exposed it in Post # 94.
As for all Brits I didn't say ALL Brits call Muslims "Asians".. I've been saying all along that SOME of them do. The ultra-liberal ones, who are afraid of being called a racist. Of course, all Brits don't do it, and the links didn't say ALL Brits did either.

Like the quote I posted in Post # 94, it says >> the Daily Mail doesn’t want to be racist either, so they use the code word ‘Asian’ for Muslim." OK. Its talking about the Daily Mail (that's not ALL Brits), and even that is jus the head honchos of the DM, which makes everyone there have to say it, if they want to keep their jobs.
And then you go on to denigrate his parents. Unfuckingbelievable. Hes a kid but hes way more respectful than you are. How low will you stoop?

Wow.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 02:45 PM
Did someone die and make you forum commandant, youre pretty new here yourself.
His post was courteous unlike yours.

Lying is not "courteous", and defending lying (as you're doing here) is equally non-courteous, if not worse. Clean up your own act.

PolWatch
02-08-2015, 02:47 PM
There is a topic...please get back to it

protectionist
02-08-2015, 02:50 PM
And then you go on to denigrate his parents. Unfuckingbelievable. Hes a kid but hes way more respectful than you are. How low will you stoop?

Wow.

I call it as I see it. His parents are also very young, and apparently immature to the point of being negligent, by letting him post on this forum, and you are equally out of order for supporting it publicly. When kids act irresponsibly like they are, that's why this whole country is going nuts like it is. They need to adopt better parenting skills.

protectionist
02-08-2015, 03:00 PM
If they clicked on the link in Post # 107,. and started talking about THAT, we WOULD be on topic. But they like to talk about me. It's a way of avoiding the topic which they are ignorant of.

So here's that link again, but will they discuss the content (Obama Administration = the Muslim Brotherhood)
or hide from it, with more insult, small talk ? We shall see.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/39021-Obama-Administration-the-Muslim-Brotherhood?p=954258#post954258

silvereyes
02-08-2015, 03:01 PM
I call it as I see it. His parents are also very young, and apparently immature to the point of being negligent, by letting him post on this forum, and you are equally out of order for supporting it publicly. When kids act irresponsibly like they are, that's why this whole country is going nuts like it is. They need to adopt better parenting skills.

Oh fuck off and mind your own backyard. His parents are doing a spectacular job. He has yet to lobby an insult at you...the fucked up adult. You cant say that, can you?

PolWatch
02-08-2015, 03:04 PM
Both of you...last warning

protectionist
02-08-2015, 03:11 PM
Both of you...last warning

See Post #114

protectionist
02-08-2015, 03:13 PM
Oh $#@! off and mind your own backyard. His parents are doing a spectacular job. He has yet to lobby an insult at you...the $#@!ed up adult. You cant say that, can you?

I won't answer this trash, other than to report it.

silvereyes
02-08-2015, 03:27 PM
Good we are even. You got reported for talking smack about a members family. Against the rules. Tsk, tsk.

William
02-08-2015, 05:03 PM
Lmao......hahahahaha! Silver laughs while william frantically googles the word git. :laughing7:

LOL, there's lots of stuff I have to Google, but I already know what a 'git' is. We used to call our Latin master at my old school that (but not when he was listening :grin:).

William
02-08-2015, 05:19 PM
All i I can tell you about your static textbook definition of liberals is that in America most people avoid the label for themselves.

It has become a toxic symbol for most people.

there are libs working tirelessly in academia and the democrat party for an antidote to being called a liberal.

Thanks for that, it explains a lot of stuff I read here and on the other boards where I lurk. :smiley:

I guess that word has a totally different meaning in America, but in Australia it is the very conservative political party which calls itself the Liberal Party.

I actually asked our English teacher about that, and he said that both the Australians and the Americans are using the word wrong. To call someone liberal is really a compliment, cos it means they flexible in their views, intelligent enough to change those views, and open to new ideas and better ways of doing things. He also warned me against taking too much notice of political speech - he says it is always spun to support an agenda - and I should make up my own mind about what I think is good for society.

William
02-08-2015, 05:38 PM
@William (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1351) - your teachers are correct in not allowing blogs to be used as a reference. Blogs are opinions....some people don't realize that or else they believe because its on the internet, its got to be true. The only time a blog should be used as a reference is an example of how far-fetched some ideas are.

Don't let the remarks about age bother you. I was concerned when you first started posting here (old ladies are allowed to worry) but I am fairly certain your parents have checked the site. You have proven to be an intelligent, mature poster. You contribute to the forum and we are glad to have you here. Some people use age as another criteria to discount new or different ideas....they are sort who use race or religion as an excuse to ignore another person's opinions. Its called being a grumpy old git...(see? I have learned from you)

Even I (not the most computer savvy person in the world), know that using all caps, colored or oversized font is rude behavior. Some people just don't care. Another symptom of being a git....

You are totally right, I told my mum and dad I was going to post here and at another place, and my dad had a look at both sites. He said it was OK to join here, but not the other place.

The only thing my mum and dad insist is that I don't give any information about myself that can let people contact me in RL. So William is my real name, but I don't give my surname or my address or mobile number to anyone. Even though I'm not really a kid any more, I think they are worried about paedos and stuff like that. My dad also warned me to always be polite in my posts and not to use some words only teens use. He says people take more notice of what you say if you say it politely and use good English.

And thanks for the nice things you said. :smiley:

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 06:30 PM
1. Millions of liberals, and some conservatives too, don't know that liberal Brits call Muslims "Asians". when it comes to Islamization, people not knowing about it is VERY common.

2. You'll still be a "kid" 20 years from now. I don't consider anyone under 35 mature. Why do you think that is the requirement to be president of the USA ?

3. Of course the links prove it. Trouble with this forum is people getting in the habit of saying the sky isn't blue, and expecting to get away with it. http://thepoliticsforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/geez.gif (http://javascript<strong></strong>:void(0))

Technically, it isn't... Technically, the sky is transparent... Here's a video to explain this! :smiley:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NafbGOQBlQs

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 06:32 PM
I've been posting the way I post for 10 years, and in my other forums, I've received compliments on it. I regard these, and what I said in Post # 78, as the correct analysis. You can call it however you please.

Your interpretation also is inferior to my style because it has no way of compensating for the lack of audible stressing, and thus is deficient in its communication level. You would be better to come UP to my communication standards, rather than be having me drop DOWN to yours.

There are plenty of ways to indicate stress on a word... For example, italics, bold, underline...

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 06:36 PM
Do you think you're going to get away with coming on this forum an LYING to me ? NO you're not. The Google link I gave you has LOTS of links talking about Brits referring to Mulsims as Asians. Every link I gave William does that.

Don't ever come in this forum and try to bullshiit me aqain. You're new here. A word of advice. If you come in here and start trolling, you're going to get your ass handed to you, newbie boy.

Not a single lie has been told by me. Looking through those links, Asian refers to location rather than religion. Find me some evidence of an African Muslim being called Asian and your theory may bear looking into further. As of this point, it does not.

I'm not doing any trolling. I'm just being factually accurate. Many people have tried to hand me my ass in a discussion. Not one has succeeded yet. Do you truly believe you will be the first?

Howey
02-08-2015, 06:36 PM
Here's the other forum protectionist posts on.

http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Blindness-Visual-Impairment/forum

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 06:42 PM
NO. I don't have to try again, nor do I have to give more links. I did all that was needed and much more. ALL the links I gave William showed the point of Brits calling Muslims Asians, and anyone can easily see that just by reading them. I don't need to do anything more just to accomodate a filthy, stinking LIAR > YOU.

You're asking for trouble, boy, and that's just what you're gonna get.

All of those links have reference to location and not religion. I asked politely for evidence that they are trying to replace Muslim with Asian. I have not seen any of that and I read each link of yours. Those that are trying to prove that it is the case are easily debunked when you look at the fact that in each one they are talking about location. If you are trying to prove that they are trying to use it to avoid saying Muslim, you need to show evidence that they are not simply referring to location. You can say that is what they prove all day, but as long as they don't prove that, I will call you on that all day.

You want to give me trouble? Bring it on. I ain't skeered.

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 06:52 PM
The very first one I looked up (right scoop) proves you a LIAR. The very first 4 words in the title says just what I was talking about >> "AFRAID TO SAY MUSLIM ?"

Here's the whole title >> AFRAID TO SAY MUSLIM? Daily Mail reports on ‘Asians’ who sexually exploited 1400 girls in one town in England (http://therightscoop.com/code-words-much-daily-mail-reports-on-asians-who-sexually-exploited-1400-girls-in-one-town-in-england/)

Notice they put the word "Asians" in quotation marks. Guess why they did that, Mr Fraud ?

Oh just talking about being from Pakistan, huh ? Well, if that were the case, then right in the heart of the text of the article, they wouldn't have said THIS, would they ? >>>

"Yeah, these men aren’t just Asian, they’re Muslim and the Daily Mail is afraid to say it. And what’s amazing is this case isn’t new. Just google it and you’ll find many sites talking about this Muslim pedophile gang from Rotherham.
So there’s your irony. Social Workers didn’t save these girls for fear of being racist and the Daily Mail doesn’t want to be racist either, so they use the code word ‘Asian’ for Muslim."

OK. Lets take another link that you tried to get away with saying only referred to people from Asia. AGAIN, same thing. There it is right in the title >> again quotation marks around Asians, because the usage of the word is being questioned. This is OBVIOUS. And your deceit is just as obvious. Boy, are we ever going to have to keep our eyes on you.

Title of the UK Telegraph article >>>

It's time to stop using the word 'Asians'

In the wake of the Rochdale grooming convictions, it's time to stop lumping Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus together as 'Asians', argues Hardeep Singh.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9314448/Its-time-to-stop-using-the-word-Asians.html

Your article did make those same accusations, but did not prove it in any way. It is readily transparent that it is an article written from a bias that does not prove their accusation in any way. Let's look again. What's this I see? It refers to the men as Pakistanis. Where is Pakistan? Asia. It talks about how the workers did not want to report it for fear of being racist. Why would they appear racist for pointing out Muslim men? Muslim isn't a race, as your article clearly forgets.

Muslim refers to a religion. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/muslim Can I list my race as Christian now? If Muslim is a race, Christian would be as well.

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 06:58 PM
Who the heck died and made you forum boss? Thats probably the rudest thing ive read in a long time. Hes welcome here. Very welcome. Hes always polite, eloquent and gives well thought out replies.....unlike you. He doesnt stand on a soap box and weller and beller....unlike you.

Thank you for those kind words... :smiley:

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 07:04 PM
1. I generally don't respond to stuff straying off the topic currently discussed (Brits calling Muslims, "Asians")

2. Yeah, I think your mum and dad have only just become 'mature'. And so does the US govt. And maybe they still aren't mature if they know you're on this computer board and are letting you do it. Tell them I said "Hey! Watch your kid."

3. With respect, the links DO, and that was proved beyond any doubt in Post # 94. Listen kid. You're only 14, and you can pick up some very bad habits in this forum. One of them is lying to try to get your way. I would strongly advise you to not copy the trash put forth here by Hal Jordan, who I suspect is a Muslim Islamist (if not full-blown cyber-jihadist), propagandizing with an American sounding name.
No lying was ever more clearly exposed than his, as I exposed it in Post # 94.
As for all Brits I didn't say ALL Brits call Muslims "Asians".. I've been saying all along that SOME of them do. The ultra-liberal ones, who are afraid of being called a racist. Of course, all Brits don't do it, and the links didn't say ALL Brits did either.

Like the quote I posted in Post # 94, it says >> the Daily Mail doesn’t want to be racist either, so they use the code word ‘Asian’ for Muslim." OK. Its talking about the Daily Mail (that's not ALL Brits), and even that is jus the head honchos of the DM, which makes everyone there have to say it, if they want to keep their jobs.

You say I lied, and you say you proved it, but you have proved nothing except your own ignorance. I find it quite funny that you think I'm a Muslim Islamist. I believe Jesus is the son of God, was crucified, and rose on the third day. Is this what a Muslim believes now? I think that there have been terrible things done in the name of Islam, but hatemongering will not solve any of that.

Hal Jordan
02-08-2015, 07:18 PM
William, it sounds like you have some good teachers...


You are totally right, I told my mum and dad I was going to post here and at another place, and my dad had a look at both sites. He said it was OK to join here, but not the other place.

The only thing my mum and dad insist is that I don't give any information about myself that can let people contact me in RL. So William is my real name, but I don't give my surname or my address or mobile number to anyone. Even though I'm not really a kid any more, I think they are worried about paedos and stuff like that. My dad also warned me to always be polite in my posts and not to use some words only teens use. He says people take more notice of what you say if you say it politely and use good English.

And thanks for the nice things you said. :smiley:

I'd say your parents have the right idea. Politeness is far more likely to be listened to, and I think you're doing a fine job of it. I hope you stick around.

Howey
02-08-2015, 07:46 PM
William, it sounds like you have some good teachers...



I'd say your parents have the right idea. Politeness is far more likely to be listened to, and I think you're doing a fine job of it. I hope you stick around.
I like William. Seems to be a smart kid.

protectionist
02-09-2015, 02:42 AM
Technically, it isn't... Technically, the sky is transparent... Here's a video to explain this! :smiley:



The sky is BLUE. Technically, or any other way. :icon_biggrin: But what could be more Islamist, than someone saying something isn't how we know it to be.

protectionist
02-09-2015, 02:44 AM
There are plenty of ways to indicate stress on a word... For example, italics, bold, underline...

All 3 of which I use repeatedly, and get criticized for it.

protectionist
02-09-2015, 02:47 AM
Not a single lie has been told by me. Looking through those links, Asian refers to location rather than religion. Find me some evidence of an African Muslim being called Asian and your theory may bear looking into further. As of this point, it does not.

I'm not doing any trolling. I'm just being factually accurate. Many people have tried to hand me my ass in a discussion. Not one has succeeded yet. Do you truly believe you will be the first?

Now you are lying more by saying you didn't lie before. Of course you did. One look at my Post # 94 and your post it responded to, shows it clearly. I handed you your ass, and YOU KNOW it (and you're lying about that too) :icon_biggrin:

protectionist
02-09-2015, 02:50 AM
Here's the other forum @protectionist (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1054) posts on.

http://www.dailystrength.org/c/Blindness-Visual-Impairment/forum

So now you're mocking the physically disabled too ? You sink to new lows every day. :slap2:

protectionist
02-09-2015, 02:54 AM
All of those links have reference to location and not religion. I asked politely for evidence that they are trying to replace Muslim with Asian. I have not seen any of that and I read each link of yours. Those that are trying to prove that it is the case are easily debunked when you look at the fact that in each one they are talking about location. If you are trying to prove that they are trying to use it to avoid saying Muslim, you need to show evidence that they are not simply referring to location. You can say that is what they prove all day, but as long as they don't prove that, I will call you on that all day.

You want to give me trouble? Bring it on. I ain't skeered.

You saw it, and you're lying. I showed the evidence and the evidence of your laughable, failed attempt at deceit. You can blabber all day about "location" or any other word you like. The links showed the word "Asians" being used as a code word for Muslims, and that's what they said >> "Social Workers didn’t save these girls for fear of being racist and the Daily Mail doesn’t want to be racist either, so they use the code word ‘Asian’ for Muslim."

http://therightscoop.com/code-words-much-daily-mail-reports-on-asians-who-sexually-exploited-1400-girls-in-one-town-in-england/

Nothing dumber than a lying poster who's been exposed, and then keeps on lying about it. http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/icon_clown.gif http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/geez.gif

protectionist
02-09-2015, 03:03 AM
Your article did make those same accusations, but did not prove it in any way. It is readily transparent that it is an article written from a bias that does not prove their accusation in any way. Let's look again. What's this I see? It refers to the men as Pakistanis. Where is Pakistan? Asia. It talks about how the workers did not want to report it for fear of being racist. Why would they appear racist for pointing out Muslim men? Muslim isn't a race, as your article clearly forgets.

Muslim refers to a religion. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/muslim Can I list my race as Christian now? If Muslim is a race, Christian would be as well.

It didn't make accusations, it just stated facts as they are. I sense you're a Muslim Islamist. and it is YOU who are biased. Also, Islam is not a religion. Most people around the world don't accept Islam to be a religion, and neither do some nations (ex. Italy)

It is true that Muslim is not a race. Of course it isn't. So why would workers fear being called a racist by saying "Muslims" ? Because Islamists make that absurd accusation, as part of their normal Islamization routine, and some people are stupid enough to cave in to it. Which they do here in America too.

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/0...s-tax-status-2 (http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/05/uncategorized/italy-islam-not-recognized-as-a-religion-denied-religious-tax-status-2)

http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

Islam Is Not A Religion, It Is Foreign Law (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27211)

Islam and the Definition of Religion (http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/islam-and-the-definition-of-religion.html)

Why Islam is Not a Religion > Rebecca Bynum (http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/100100/sec_id/100100)

Former Muslim, Wafa Sultan, says, "Islam is NOT a religion" | BARE NAKED ISLAM (http://www.barenakedislam.com/2010/08/14/former-muslim-wafa-sultan-says-islam-is-not-a-religion/)

?Allah is Dead ? Why Islam is Not a Religion? | Logan's Warning (http://loganswarning.com/2011/02/19/“allah-is-dead-–-why-islam-is-not-a-religion”/)

Islam Is Not A Religion, But A Dangerous Ideology | International (http://beforeitsnews.com/international/2013/02/islam-is-not-a-religion-but-a-dangerous-ideology-2451630.html)

Islam: not a religion? « The Immanent Frame (http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2010/07/28/islam-not-a-religion/)

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. « Avid Editor's Insights (http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/islam-is-not-a-religion-nor-is-it-a-cult-it-is-a-complete-system/)

Half Sigma: Islam not a religion? (http://www.halfsigma.com/2011/01/islam-not-a-religion.html)

Islam in Italy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Italy)

Comments from Former Muslims - WikiIslam (http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Comments_from_Former_Muslims)

The Patriot Factor: Islam is NOT a Religion (http://thepatriotfactor.blogspot.com/p/islkam-is-not-religion.html)

Why Islam Should NOT Be Protected Under the US Constitution! | CatchKevin.com (http://catchkevin.com/islam-not-protected/)

Islam: Politics In Religious Garb (http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina21228.htm)

Italy: Islam Not Recognized as a Religion -- Denied Religious Tax Status - Atlas Shrugs (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/italy-islam-not-recognized-as-a-religion-denied-religious-tax-status.html)

Info on Islam: Islam is not a religion (http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2011/03/islam-is-not-religion.html)

Islam Is Not A Religion It Is A Cult (http://www.knightscrusaders.com/Knights_Crusaders/The_Islamic_Honor_Killings_In_America.html)

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/...d-as-a-religion-denied-religious-tax-status-2 (http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/05/uncategorized/italy-islam-not-recognized-as-a-religion-denied-religious-tax-status-2)

Islam is NOT a Religion (http://www.awsg.us/islam-is-not-a-religion/)

Islam Does Not Qualify Under US Constitution ?Freedom of Religion? Rights « Northeast Intelligence NetworkNortheast Intelligence Network (http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/3062)

Asia Times - Asia's most trusted news source (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FH10Aa01.html)

Islam is a political system ? NOT a religion | Creeping Sharia (http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/islam-is-a-political-system-not-a-religion/)

Islam is not a religion, but a death cult of misogynistic pedophiles (http://www.onlinedebate.net/forums/showthread.php/25412-Islam-is-not-a-religion-but-a-death-cult-of-misogynistic-pedophiles)

protectionist
02-09-2015, 03:08 AM
There's a long list of lawsuits made by allegedly "offended " Muslims (HA HA HA), all supported by the Muslim ass-kissing Obama administration.

protectionist
02-09-2015, 03:15 AM
Who the heck died and made you forum boss? Thats probably the rudest thing ive read in a long time. Hes welcome here. Very welcome. Hes always polite, eloquent and gives well thought out replies.....unlike you. He doesnt stand on a soap box and weller and beller....unlike you.

He's a lousy liar, an infection of the forum, and you are just as bad for supporting him + all the other rude trash that you post. If you had an ounce of decency, you'd go back through this thread, and delete all the filth you've polluted it with.

Hal Jordan
02-09-2015, 12:27 PM
It didn't make accusations, it just stated facts as they are. I sense you're a Muslim Islamist. and it is YOU who are biased. Also, Islam is not a religion. Most people around the world don't accept Islam to be a religion, and neither do some nations (ex. Italy)

It is true that Muslim is not a race. Of course it isn't. So why would workers fear being called a racist by saying "Muslims" ? Because Islamists make that absurd accusation, as part of their normal Islamization routine, and some people are stupid enough to cave in to it. Which they do here in America too.

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/0...s-tax-status-2 (http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/05/uncategorized/italy-islam-not-recognized-as-a-religion-denied-religious-tax-status-2)

http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

Islam Is Not A Religion, It Is Foreign Law (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/27211)

Islam and the Definition of Religion (http://www.thecatholicthing.org/columns/2010/islam-and-the-definition-of-religion.html)

Why Islam is Not a Religion > Rebecca Bynum (http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/100100/sec_id/100100)

Former Muslim, Wafa Sultan, says, "Islam is NOT a religion" | BARE NAKED ISLAM (http://www.barenakedislam.com/2010/08/14/former-muslim-wafa-sultan-says-islam-is-not-a-religion/)

?Allah is Dead ? Why Islam is Not a Religion? | Logan's Warning (http://loganswarning.com/2011/02/19/“allah-is-dead-–-why-islam-is-not-a-religion”/)

Islam Is Not A Religion, But A Dangerous Ideology | International (http://beforeitsnews.com/international/2013/02/islam-is-not-a-religion-but-a-dangerous-ideology-2451630.html)

Islam: not a religion? « The Immanent Frame (http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2010/07/28/islam-not-a-religion/)

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. « Avid Editor's Insights (http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/islam-is-not-a-religion-nor-is-it-a-cult-it-is-a-complete-system/)

Half Sigma: Islam not a religion? (http://www.halfsigma.com/2011/01/islam-not-a-religion.html)

Islam in Italy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Italy)

Comments from Former Muslims - WikiIslam (http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Comments_from_Former_Muslims)

The Patriot Factor: Islam is NOT a Religion (http://thepatriotfactor.blogspot.com/p/islkam-is-not-religion.html)

Why Islam Should NOT Be Protected Under the US Constitution! | CatchKevin.com (http://catchkevin.com/islam-not-protected/)

Islam: Politics In Religious Garb (http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina21228.htm)

Italy: Islam Not Recognized as a Religion -- Denied Religious Tax Status - Atlas Shrugs (http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/08/italy-islam-not-recognized-as-a-religion-denied-religious-tax-status.html)

Info on Islam: Islam is not a religion (http://crombouke.blogspot.com/2011/03/islam-is-not-religion.html)

Islam Is Not A Religion It Is A Cult (http://www.knightscrusaders.com/Knights_Crusaders/The_Islamic_Honor_Killings_In_America.html)

http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/...d-as-a-religion-denied-religious-tax-status-2 (http://www.themuslimtimes.org/2012/05/uncategorized/italy-islam-not-recognized-as-a-religion-denied-religious-tax-status-2)

Islam is NOT a Religion (http://www.awsg.us/islam-is-not-a-religion/)

Islam Does Not Qualify Under US Constitution ?Freedom of Religion? Rights « Northeast Intelligence NetworkNortheast Intelligence Network (http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/3062)

Asia Times - Asia's most trusted news source (http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FH10Aa01.html)

Islam is a political system ? NOT a religion | Creeping Sharia (http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/islam-is-a-political-system-not-a-religion/)

Islam is not a religion, but a death cult of misogynistic pedophiles (http://www.onlinedebate.net/forums/showthread.php/25412-Islam-is-not-a-religion-but-a-death-cult-of-misogynistic-pedophiles)

You apparently decided to change from the discussion about race to posting links as to how "Islam is not a religion". Okay, fine, we can talk about that.

The links provided here, the ones that work, anyway, are all biased commentary, except for one or two that are discussing Italy not recognising it legally as an official religion. One of your links even harmed its own case by including the American legal system's definition of religion. Some of the links defined Islam as a cult, rather than a religions. None of these really work.

As your articles said, Italy is stricter on what it recognises as a religion. That doesn't mean it's not a religion, just that the country does not recognise it.

There's one huge reason it can not be a cult. Size. Cult is generally defined in this way.


a small religious group that is not part of a larger and more accepted religion and that has beliefs regarded by many people as extreme or dangerous

If you take out the size component, you can really get crazy with calling religions cults. I've heard a few atheists refer to Christianity as a cult.

One of your links said Judaism is not a religion either. Do you believe that as well?

I recommend you brush up on what a religion is... http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion

Another thing that proves your beliefs are faulty is the fact that if someone disagrees with you, they must be a Muslim! And lying!

Hal Jordan
02-09-2015, 12:28 PM
There's a long list of lawsuits made by allegedly "offended " Muslims (HA HA HA), all supported by the Muslim ass-kissing Obama administration.

Whether this is true or not, what does it have to do with anything?