Condoleezza Rice leads potential 2016 U.S. Senate hopefuls in California

[Cigar]

Former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice polled at the head of a crowded pool of potential candidates to succeed long-time Senator Barbara Boxer, according to a Field Poll released on Wednesday.

The poll showed that when likely California voters were asked whether they would vote for or against 18 prominent possible candidates in 2016, 49 percent of likely California voters said they would be inclined to support Rice, a Republican.

Rice's support was significantly stronger among likely Republican voters, with almost three-quarters saying they would back her. The next closest Republican candidate, former State Senator Phil Wyman, saw only 51 percent support from Republicans.

California Attorney General Kamala Harris, who is a Democrat and the only person listed in the poll who has formally announced they are running, saw the most support of any Democrat, with about three-quarters of likely voters in her party saying they would back her.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/18/us-usa-politics-california-candidates-idUSKBN0LM1AT20150218

Actually I think she could be a good senator ... but I can see the best campaign ad against her are her own words to the 9/11 Commission (to whom she also lied through her face) when the families of 9/11 victims gasped in horror when she read the title of that infamous PDB.

[Captain Obvious]

I always liked Condi.

[Common Sense]

She's a smart woman. Shame about the company she kept.

[Cigar]

She's a smart woman. Shame about the company she kept.

I remeber reading that Colin Powell tried to warn her not to fall into the same traps he did.

I'd Vote Republican for Colin Powell ... the Man knows his stuff.

[del]

we need more neocons in govt, right?

[Mac-7]

She is a more reasonable person than either of the current California senators.

[PolWatch]

she will never be elected on a repub ticket...too many rumors about her sexual orientation....

[del]

people think she's straight?

[Mac-7]

she will never be elected on a repub ticket...too many rumors about her sexual orientation....

Coming from libs like you.

[Captain Obvious]

she will never be elected on a repub ticket...too many rumors about her sexual orientation....

I'd pay good money to see a sex scene with her and Mia Love.

[Mac-7]

I'd pay good money to see a sex scene with her and Mia Love.

I thought you were too cheap to pay for your porn?

[Captain Obvious]

I thought you were too cheap to pay for your porn?

Yeah, but that wouldn't be porn, it'd be entertainment.

[PolWatch]

Coming from libs like you.

yeap...does this mean you would vote for someone that might be gay? even if you think they have no right to exist? amazing....

[Mac-7]

yeap...does this mean you would vote for someone that might be gay? even if you think they have no right to exist? amazing....

Thats really none of your business.

Your job is to smear Rice and let the readers decide in the privacy of the voting booth.

[TrueBlue]

Before the people of California and other places get too excited about her they need to read this article written by a University History Professor and author.

Condoleezza Rice’s Misguided ‘Values’

https://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/01/condoleezza-rices-misguided-values/


"Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice cites her personal climb to power as a shining example of how civil rights benefited a worthy African-American, but her Faustian bargain for success within George W. Bush’s administration meant death for many Iraqis, notes Lawrence Davidson."

[maineman]

I'd pay good money to see a sex scene with her and Mia Love.

and I'd pay a couple of dollars to see a live sex scene with her and a Tijuana donkey... if I'd had enough tequila first.

[PolWatch]

Thats really none of your business.

Your job is to smear Rice and let the readers decide in the privacy of the voting booth.

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608012063567841655&w=124&h=108&c=7&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=rolling+on+floor+laughing+emoticon&id=41BF5C3C86C77E03F08505DCA2E44CDA3869DA2F&FORM=IQFRBA)

[Captain Obvious]

yeap...does this mean you would vote for someone that might be gay? even if you think they have no right to exist? amazing....

If OBL got the GOP nomination, guess who'd vote for him?

:biglaugh:

[Captain Obvious]

Before the people of California and other places get too excited about her they need to read this article written by a University History Professor and author.

Condoleezza Rice’s Misguided ‘Values’

https://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/01/condoleezza-rices-misguided-values/

"Here - read this smear article"

:biglaugh:

[Cigar]

she will never be elected on a repub ticket...too many rumors about her sexual orientation....

I don't care about her sexual orientation, just as long as he's getting it regular and happy with what she's getting.

Afterall, I like women also, and two twice as much. :laugh:

God knows you don't want a frustrated woman making important decisions.

[TrueBlue]

"Here - read this smear article"

:biglaugh:
Afraid of what the good professor has to say, Cap?

[Captain Obvious]

Afraid of what the good professor has to say, Cap?

Yes, terrified...

[TrueBlue]

Yes, terrified...
So I see. Here's your selfie. http://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/confused/9.gif

[PolWatch]

http://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/confused/9.gif - cool smilie! (she got ya that time Capt)

[silvereyes]

Coming from libs like you.

Ummmmmm, no.

[silvereyes]

Thats really none of your business.

Your job is to smear Rice and let the readers decide in the privacy of the voting booth.
Quit being rude. Id be shocked if pol smeared anyone.

[Captain Obvious]

Quit being rude. Id be shocked if pol smeared anyone.

Pol smear?

Brother of pap?

[silvereyes]

Pol smear?

Brother of pap?
I swear my toenail polish is more mature than you. Get yer mind outta da gutter. ;)

[birddog]

The fact that Condi is often rumored to be a homosexual might help her get elected in California.:wink:

[silvereyes]

The fact that Condi is often rumored to be a homosexual might help her get elected in California.:wink:
Annnnd? One down....how many to go?

[maineman]

Annnnd? One down....how many to go?

too much of that less than fresh free government cheese can mess some people up.... take that into account.

[silvereyes]

too much of that less than fresh free government cheese can mess some people up.... take that into account.
Oh. Snap. True.

[Mac-7]

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.608012063567841655&w=124&h=108&c=7&rs=1&qlt=90&pid=3.1&rm=2 (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=rolling+on+floor+laughing+emoticon&id=41BF5C3C86C77E03F08505DCA2E44CDA3869DA2F&FORM=IQFRBA)

I'll take that as a yes.

[Mac-7]

Quit being rude. Id be shocked if pol smeared anyone.

She's smearing Rice.

[PolWatch]

how did I smear Rice? Because I said I would be surprised if the repub party would back anyone that has rumors about their sexual orientation?

[Mac-7]

how did I smear Rice? Because I said I would be surprised if the repub party would back anyone that has rumors about their sexual orientation?

Spreading rumors about her sex life.

I thought libs wanted everyone to stay out of people's bedrooms yet there you are peeking through the keyhole.

[PolWatch]

yeap....if you say so....

[zelmo1234]

yeap...does this mean you would vote for someone that might be gay? even if you think they have no right to exist? amazing....

Wow now republicans don't think that Gay people have the right to exist?

Is that like all Democrat hate everyone that earns an honest living

[zelmo1234]

Before the people of California and other places get too excited about her they need to read this article written by a University History Professor and author.

Condoleezza Rice’s Misguided ‘Values’

https://consortiumnews.com/2011/11/01/condoleezza-rices-misguided-values/

So he is racist right????

[Redrose]

she will never be elected on a repub ticket...too many rumors about her sexual orientation....


I don't believe that at all. Many Republicans would have supported her for president. The small percentage of right wingers who are locked into narrowmindedness over sexual orientation, and skin color make a lot of noise and make headlines, but they are not a true reflections of the vast majority of Republicans and Tea Party supporters. People forget, there are gay Republicans, and Republicans who have gay children.

[PolWatch]

maybe I'm just used to hearing those with the loudest voices....I always think of the repub party as stressing the extreme conservative social issues...

[silvereyes]

I don't believe that at all. Many Republicans would have supported her for president. The small percentage of right wingers who are locked into narrowmindedness over sexual orientation, and skin color make a lot of noise and make headlines, but they are not a true reflections of the vast majority of Republicans and Tea Party supporters. People forget, there are gay Republicans, and Republicans who have gay children.
I hope and wish that were true.

[silvereyes]

Spreading rumors about her sex life.

I thought libs wanted everyone to stay out of people's bedrooms yet there you are peeking through the keyhole.
Quit ATTEMPTING to put words in her fingers.

[PolWatch]

Quit ATTEMPTING to put words in her fingers.

words in my fingers? only you Silver...only you! :rollseyes:

[silvereyes]

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj122/christamaria-2008/smiley_giggle.gif (http://s271.photobucket.com/user/christamaria-2008/media/smiley_giggle.gif.html)

[Ransom]

and I'd pay a couple of dollars to see a live sex scene with her and a Tijuana donkey... if I'd had enough tequila first.
Just cannot help defining yourself.

[Mac-7]

Quit ATTEMPTING to put words in her fingers.

Polwatch spread that nasty rumor about Rice on this forum.

So I haven't put any words in her fingers.

She did that herself.

[Redrose]

I hope and wish that were true.


If the media would stop it's biased tendencies, and let the real GOP message out, more people would realize how accurate my comment is.

Just like the hatchet job it did on the Tea Party. Most on the left truly believe all the awful lies being told and the hateful image falsly painted of them.

[Ransom]

maybe I'm just used to hearing those with the loudest voices....I always think of the repub party as stressing the extreme conservative social issues...

Extreme social issues? For example?

[PolWatch]

The image I have is people talking about legitimate rape and people defending his crazy ideas. Its hard to form an opinion of a rational group of people when that is what is representing them.

I don't understand why anyone want someone to sign a pledge of how they will vote on something. Not only before they are elected, but before they know what they are pledging to ignore....all presented by someone who isn't the voter but the money man.

I don't get my information from mainstream media...I may hear it from mainstream but I always research to find out if something is true.

Look at the posters here who present themselves as conservatives. Read their remarks about gays and suspected gays. Are you surprised that I wonder if any questions about Rice would be a problem?

[PolWatch]

FYI: this is the conservative who said I was smearing Rice:

'No one is allowed to have a critical opinion about gay perversion?'

[Captain Obvious]

FYI: this is the conservative who said I was smearing Rice:



Only if you overcook it with too much water.

[Common]

Ive always liked Condoleeza Rice, Ive always felt she was incredibly bright and capable. I never gave it a thought whether she was gay or not, nor do I care. I dont care if anyone is gay, I care when they keep rubbing it in my face.

[Mac-7]

Ive always liked Condoleeza Rice, Ive always felt she was incredibly bright and capable. I never gave it a thought whether she was gay or not, nor do I care. I dont care if anyone is gay, I care when they keep rubbing it in my face.

It seems to matter very much to PolWatch, who is also hoping it matters to republican voters.

[silvereyes]

She's smearing Rice.

Where?

[silvereyes]

It seems to matter very much to PolWatch, who is also hoping it matters to republican voters.
Keep lying. Shows your character to perfection.

[Common]

It seems to matter very much to PolWatch, who is also hoping it matters to republican voters.

lol she just did to you what you do to others, she played you and yanked your chain. Cast out the hook reel in a fish

[Mac-7]

lol she just did to you what you do to others, she played you and yanked your chain. Cast out the hook reel in a fish

Not my chain.

our favorite lib was hoping to drum up opposition to Rice based on rumors but it didn't work.

[silvereyes]

Not my chain.

our favorite lib was hoping to drum up opposition to Rice based on rumors but it didn't work.
Please show specifically where and what she said that smeared rice's name. She mentioned rumors....rumors she did NOT start nor specify.

[Reason10]

Former U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice polled at the head of a crowded pool of potential candidates to succeed long-time Senator Barbara Boxer, according to a Field Poll released on Wednesday.

The poll showed that when likely California voters were asked whether they would vote for or against 18 prominent possible candidates in 2016, 49 percent of likely California voters said they would be inclined to support Rice, a Republican.

Rice's support was significantly stronger among likely Republican voters, with almost three-quarters saying they would back her. The next closest Republican candidate, former State Senator Phil Wyman, saw only 51 percent support from Republicans.

California Attorney General Kamala Harris, who is a Democrat and the only person listed in the poll who has formally announced they are running, saw the most support of any Democrat, with about three-quarters of likely voters in her party saying they would back her.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/18/us-usa-politics-california-candidates-idUSKBN0LM1AT20150218

Actually I think she could be a good senator ... but I can see the best campaign ad against her are her own words to the 9/11 Commission (to whom she also lied through her face) when the families of 9/11 victims gasped in horror when she read the title of that infamous PDB.

Compared to that lying sack of manure Barbara Boxer, Rice is Mother Teresa.
Oh, and Rice did NOT lie at the 9-11 commission. Liberal drive by media types LIED about that. Rice doesn't follow the typical left wing narrative.

I hope she gets elected.

[Mac-7]

Please show specifically where and what she said that smeared rice's name. She mentioned rumors....rumors she did NOT start nor specify.

She spread the rumor.

On this thread it was her rumor.

[maineman]

She spread the rumor.

On this thread it was her rumor.

are you suggesting that it is not common knowledge?

[birddog]

I would rather have a homosexual Rice as President than a murdering, bi-sexual Clinton any time! At least, Rice has positive accomplishments for our country, the Hildebeast has none!

[Cigar]

I would rather have a homosexual Rice as President than a murdering, bi-sexual Clinton any time! At least, Rice has positive accomplishments for our country, the Hildebeast has none!

Can you please list those positive accomplishments for our country, I must have been out of the office that day. :laugh:

[PolWatch]

I would rather have a homosexual Rice as President than a murdering, bi-sexual Clinton any time! At least, Rice has positive accomplishments for our country, the Hildebeast has none!
Mac-7 - here's ya another smear you can worry about! enjoy!

[birddog]

@Mac-7 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1014) - here's ya another smear you can worry about! enjoy!

It's not a smear when it's factual and well known.

[birddog]

Can you please list those positive accomplishments for our country, I must have been out of the office that day. :laugh:

You must have been out of your office on many days.

[maineman]

It's not a smear when it's factual and well known.

except your post was not factual. I know this is tough for you to comprehend... and maybe too much of that poor quality free government cheese has truly addled your brain, but your opinions are not synonymous with facts.

[silvereyes]

I would rather have a homosexual Rice as President than a murdering, bi-sexual Clinton any time! At least, Rice has positive accomplishments for our country, the Hildebeast has none!
Speaking of vicious rumor-mongering.....

[silvereyes]

She spread the rumor.

On this thread it was her rumor.

Streeeeeeettttttcccccchhhhhh....

[silvereyes]

It's not a smear when it's factual and well known.

Oh mymymymymy, gubmint cheese must be chock-full of lsd these days. Any more visions that youve had youd like to share with the rest if us working class?

[Cigar]

Hows that List coming ... ?

[Mac-7]

are you suggesting that it is not common knowledge?

Its the first I heard about it.

And it was first time mentioned on this thread.

[maineman]

Its the first I heard about it.

And it was first time mentioned on this thread.

so because you live in a cave, the rest of us are supposed to refrain from talking about issues that we have heard about and talked about on many forums for many years? got it.

google "condoleezza rice lesbian" and go see how old some of the 111,000 links actually are

[Mac-7]

so because you live in a cave, the rest of us are supposed to refrain from talking about issues that we have heard about and talked about on many forums for many years? got it.

google "condoleezza rice lesbian" and go see how old some of the 111,000 links actually are

What evidence has the pervert class dug up to prove that Rice is a lesbian?

[silvereyes]

Its the first I heard about it.

And it was first time mentioned on this thread.
You dont live in a cave and i dont believe you.

[Mac-7]

You dont live in a cave

I also don't live in a sewer which may explain why the libs here heard the story first.

[Common]

I also don't live in a sewer which may explain why the libs here heard the story first.

Theres lots of scumbag teatards that live in sewars and in chris christies ass and ted cruzs and Scott walkers. Thats where teatards breed and give birth, all teatards start out as dingleberries

[maineman]

What evidence has the pervert class dug up to prove that Rice is a lesbian?

who said anybody PROVED anything???

... just that it was a long and well established rumor. The fact that you hadn't heard that particular rumor really doesn't change the fact that it was long and well established.

[silvereyes]

I also don't live in a sewer which may explain why the libs here heard the story first.

Im saying that youre lying but.....need a hose to put out your pants?

[Mac-7]

who said anybody PROVED anything???

... just that it was a long and well established rumor. The fact that you hadn't heard that particular rumor really doesn't change the fact that it was long and well established.

Only in the places that libs hang out.

[maineman]

Only in the places that libs hang out.

you know this because you happen to hang out in every OTHER place?

I mean... wow... your speed reading skills have got to be extraordinary... like a superpower almost. You read all 111,000 links and can verify that none of them are conservative leaning websites?

impressive!

[maineman]

ya know,mac.... whenever I get into a battle of wits with you, I feel like the guy who brought a gun to the knife fight.

[Bob]

She's a smart woman. Shame about the company she kept.

Rice does not agree with your smear.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ruBKulyXQs

[Bob]

ya know,mac.... whenever I get into a battle of wits with you, I feel like the guy who brought a gun to the knife fight.

ha ha you forgot the bullets. lol

[maineman]

ha ha you forgot the bullets. lol

Is "I'm rubber you're glue" next on your gag list?

[silvereyes]

ha ha you forgot the bullets. lol

How so? Do you really believe macs denials?

[Safety]

How so? Do you really believe macs denials?

birds of a feather, and all that jazz.

[Bob]

How so? Do you really believe macs denials?

Better question is.... Do I believe your denials?

[silvereyes]

Better question is.... Do I believe your denials?

What fucking denials? What have i denied? Oh thats right. Nothing.

[silvereyes]

birds of a feather, and all that jazz.

I know. I know.

[sachem]

I like Condi.

[Bob]

What fucking denials? What have i denied? Oh thats right. Nothing.

That is how I felt when you accused Mac of denials.

[silvereyes]

That is how I felt when you accused Mac of denials.

He is denying things. Blatantly so.

[Mac-7]

He is denying things. Blatantly so.

No you are.

The libs here tried to smear Rice with homosexual innuendo just because they don't like her political views.

[maineman]

I could care less if Condi likes to munch the carpet.... I wouldn't vote for her because of her politics, not her sexual preference. The point we have tried to make big Mac is that these rumors have been around a long time and, the issue will be, how the idea of a black lesbian will sit with the party of angry white men? Her political orientation will stop her from getting my vote in the general election, but her sexual orientation will stop her in the GOP primaries.

[Ransom]

I like Condi.

So do I

[Private Pickle]

I could care less if Condi likes to munch the carpet.... I wouldn't vote for her because of her politics, not her sexual preference. The point we have tried to make big Mac is that these rumors have been around a long time and, the issue will be, how the idea of a black lesbian will sit with the party of angry white men? Her political orientation will stop her from getting my vote in the general election, but her sexual orientation will stop her in the GOP primaries.

Condi Rice is highly respected in the GOP. If McCain would have selected her instead of Palin I think it would have been a much closer race (Obama still probably would have won).

Which exact politics do you disagree with on Condi? She is not a NeoCon. She is a centrist with right leaning tendencies regarding foreign policy.

[Ransom]

What political views don't they like?

Watch this.... teachable moment 9,460 coming up. Getting warmer the further south I get.

[Private Pickle]

What political views don't they like?

Watch this.... teachable moment 9,460 coming up. Getting warmer the further south I get.

I can't figure this out. Is this a slight on me or someone else? Either way it's a slight and is exactly what I'm talking about with you bro. If you could find a way to restrain yourself, wait until they post and then post a rebuttal in good faith you would kick ass on this forum.

[maineman]

Condi Rice is highly respected in the GOP. If McCain would have selected her instead of Palin I think it would have been a much closer race (Obama still probably would have won).

Which exact politics do you disagree with on Condi? She is not a NeoCon. She is a centrist with right leaning tendencies regarding foreign policy.

I disagree with the platform she would stand upon. Why is that so hard for folks to understand?

[maineman]

Condi Rice is highly respected in the GOP. If McCain would have selected her instead of Palin I think it would have been a much closer race (Obama still probably would have won).

Which exact politics do you disagree with on Condi? She is not a NeoCon. She is a centrist with right leaning tendencies regarding foreign policy.

and I don't think you fully appreciate how bloody the GOP primaries can get. Everybody will have lots of money to play with thanks to Citizens United, and they all will want to win, so they will be doing opposition research on every other GOP candidate in the field and trying to exploit their weaknesses. If Condi isn't rock solid with her hetero- street cred... if there are whispers of gayness... the social conservatives in the GOP base will devour her early, imho.

[PolWatch]

This is acceptable: 'I would rather have a homosexual Rice as President than a murdering, bi-sexual Clinton any time! At least, Rice has positive accomplishments for our country, the Hildebeast has none! '

This is unacceptable: 'she will never be elected on a repub ticket...too many rumors about her sexual orientation'

go figure...

[maineman]

well said.

the irrational virulence from the far right is really almost inexplicable.

[Private Pickle]

and I don't think you fully appreciate how bloody the GOP primaries can get. Everybody will have lots of money to play with thanks to Citizens United, and they all will want to win, so they will be doing opposition research on every other GOP candidate in the field and trying to exploit their weaknesses. If Condi isn't rock solid with her hetero- street cred... if there are whispers of gayness... the social conservatives in the GOP base will devour her early, imho.

All depends on the polls. I think most of the legacy GOPers are dying off (no offense to any who may be on the Boomer Generation). A new Conservative is emerging. Some call them Libertarians but are completely incorrect as these new GOPers, while socially progressive are still globally focused and anti-protectionist.

Condi is one of this breed. The problem I see for her is her association with Bush but easily overcome given Obama hasn't done anything different than the former President.

This election will be interesting. I hope both Condi and Rand run.

In my opinion, outside of Hillary, the Democrats have dick. I think they have some idea in their head that anyone Obama endorses is going to win.

My predication: GOP wins the Presidential giving them 2 years of control of all 3 branches if: the GOP puts someone in front of Hillary that speaks to current generations. Rand does that. And lets face it. The worst thing that will happen is the GOP "base" of boomers don't go to the polls (history shows they will go to the polls no matter what) and the Indi's swing "Libertarian".

[del]

rand paul has no chance

the money's going to jeb, and what's left seems to be going to walker

[Private Pickle]

This is acceptable: 'I would rather have a homosexual Rice as President than a murdering, bi-sexual Clinton any time! At least, Rice has positive accomplishments for our country, the Hildebeast has none! '

This is unacceptable: 'she will never be elected on a repub ticket...too many rumors about her sexual orientation'

go figure...

Hyperbole. You just gotta ignore the bullshit and step back. Take a look at what the American populace is attracted to and everything else is plain smoke and mirrors. More and more people don't give a shit about your sexual orientation and are just looking for good leadership.

[Private Pickle]

rand paul has no chance

the money's going to jeb, and what's left seems to be going to walker

Potentially. Rand certainly has a shot. The people like him and don't like Jeb. The next year will be the GOP ramming Jeb and a couple of other workable candidates. We will see if Rand hangs in there or is portrayed in the right wing media as a pariah.

[Private Pickle]

well said.

the irrational virulence from the far right is really almost inexplicable.

Dude...it comes from both sides...please...

[maineman]

Hyperbole. You just gotta ignore the bull$#@! and step back. Take a look at what the American populace is attracted to and everything else is plain smoke and mirrors. More and more people don't give a $#@! about your sexual orientation and are just looking for good leadership. you seem to discount the power of social conservatives in the GOP base, imo.

[maineman]

Dude...it comes from both sides...please...

dude... if you can find one post from me that is anything near what birddog puts out every single time he logs on, that would be real nice. I don't see ANY leftie on this site that is as virulent and hateful as the righties first string boys here.

[Private Pickle]

you seem to discount the power of social conservatives in the GOP base, imo.

I do...cause they are all dying off... 10 years from now and it's a new chapter...

[maineman]

Dude...it comes from both sides...please...

and if it DID come from both sides, I would not find the virulence inexplicable when it came from the left.... ;)

[maineman]

I do...cause they are all dying off... 10 years from now and it's a new chapter...

what does 10 years from now have to do with Condi and her sexual orientation problem with the GOP base in 2016?

[Private Pickle]

dude... if you can find one post from me that is anything near what birddog puts out every single time he logs on, that would be real nice. I don't see ANY leftie on this site that is as virulent and hateful as the righties first string boys here.

Why would you want me to compare you with Birddog? Set your goals higher man...

Do you want to compare hateful? Are you saying that while both sides are hateful the Conservative side is more hateful so the Liberal side wins? I mean really? That's what you're going with?

[Redrose]

I disagree with the platform she would stand upon. Why is that so hard for folks to understand?


That is a great answer. That is your view and I respect it.

I disagree with Obama's platform, and I would hope his supporters would understand that and respect my view.

[maineman]

Why would you want me to compare you with Birddog? Set your goals higher man...

Do you want to compare hateful? Are you saying that while both sides are hateful the Conservative side is more hateful so the Liberal side wins? I mean really? That's what you're going with?

partisan politics in America has always fostered hateful diatribes from both sides. do you really see that changing anytime in the next, say, two hundred years? really?

I don't believe that my side has gotten as down and dirty as regularly as the other side.... and I know that for me, I have kept it a lot higher than the average mouth breathing knuckle dragging birddog... I can't vouch for everyone on my side, but I can hold myself to a higher standard and do.

[Private Pickle]

what does 10 years from now have to do with Condi and her sexual orientation problem with the GOP base in 2016?

Well because the writing is on the wall and the GOP up and comers know it...

Let's face it. The GOP base is going to show up at the polls and they will vote GOP. History and precedence tell us the main reason GOPers win elections is because their base turns out regardless of who is running. Every year... Without fail.

Now you have Condi. Sexual orientation is questionable but not attackable. Not by the Dems at least and if the Conservatives do it then they can write off their nomination chances. And lets say the legacy GOPers do attack her... Not only would the independents defend her but I am willing to bet that there would be a fair amount of Democrats that would vote for her on basic principle.

She is solid and staying quiet. My guess is she won't go full presidential. She will make a vice-presidential bid. I think it's a mistake but that's what I'm guessing.

[Private Pickle]

partisan politics in America has always fostered hateful diatribes from both sides. do you really see that changing anytime in the next, say, two hundred years? really?

I don't believe that my side has gotten as down and dirty as regularly as the other side.... and I know that for me, I have kept it a lot higher than the average mouth breathing knuckle dragging birddog... I can't vouch for everyone on my side, but I can hold myself to a higher standard and do.

Well we all have our biases...

[maineman]

That is a great answer. That is your view and I respect it.

I disagree with Obama's platform, and I would hope his supporters would understand that and respect my view.

when you talk about your disagreement with platforms, I am completely in agreement... when you start with your weird unsubstantiated stuff about Obama's grandfather... you lose me and you do mortal damage to all your other positions with that sort of nonsense.....

[Private Pickle]

That is a great answer. That is your view and I respect it.

I disagree with Obama's platform, and I would hope his supporters would understand that and respect my view.

Now ask him what platform he is talking about...

[maineman]

Well because the writing is on the wall and the GOP up and comers know it...

Let's face it. The GOP base is going to show up at the polls and they will vote GOP. History and precedence tell us the main reason GOPers win elections is because their base turns out regardless of who is running. Every year... Without fail.

Now you have Condi. Sexual orientation is questionable but not attackable. Not by the Dems at least and if the Conservatives do it then they can write off their nomination chances. And lets say the legacy GOPers do attack her... Not only would the independents defend her but I am willing to bet that there would be a fair amount of Democrats that would vote for her on basic principle.

She is solid and staying quiet. My guess is she won't go full presidential. She will make a vice-presidential bid. I think it's a mistake but that's what I'm guessing.

ten years from now is not today. today, the social conservatives are still a powerful bloc in the GOP base. The next GOP nominee will undoubtedly be one who passes muster with that bloc.

[Private Pickle]

when you talk about your disagreement with platforms, I am completely in agreement... when you start with your weird unsubstantiated stuff about Obama's grandfather... you lose me and you do mortal damage to all your other positions with that sort of nonsense.....

10548

[Private Pickle]

ten years from now is not today. today, the social conservatives are still a powerful bloc in the GOP base. The next GOP nominee will undoubtedly be one who passes muster with that bloc.

You missed my point. The GOP can run anyone and the "social conservatives" as you have mislabeled, will still vote GOP. in 10 years they will be gone and the GOP knows this. They know they need to reinvent themselves quickly.

Synopsis: The GOP may just run and support a Rand Paul because they know the Conservatives of yesteryear will be unelectable in 10 years.

With me?

[del]

10548

how's that non-judgmental thing working for you?

[maineman]

and why would that be? Where have you seen me posting things about Condi's grandparents being communists, or Rand Paul being a bi-sexual murderer? You can call me any fucking thing you want... but my conscience is clear.

[Redrose]

Now ask him what platform he is talking about...


Not that important to me. I like her views, style, intelligence, background, persona, and speech delivery.

[Ransom]

how's that non-judgmental thing working for you?

Speakin of pot meet kettle, what up Del?

[Private Pickle]

how's that non-judgmental thing working for you?

Poorly as usual. But I didn't make a character call...just called out his conflicting viewpoints... I'm sure he is a nice guy.

[Private Pickle]

Not that important to me. I like her views, style, intelligence, background, persona, and speech delivery.

Yeah...but he doesn't...

[del]

Speakin of pot meet kettle, what up Del?

take a left, speedracer, take a left!

lol

[Mac-7]

I could care less if Condi likes to munch the carpet.... I wouldn't vote for her because of her politics, not her sexual preference. The point we have tried to make big Mac is that these rumors have been around a long time and, the issue will be, how the idea of a black lesbian will sit with the party of angry white men? Her political orientation will stop her from getting my vote in the general election, but her sexual orientation will stop her in the GOP primaries.

Because you don't like her politics libs like you are hoping that people who do agree with her on policy will bite on the lesbian smear and reject her for that.

[maineman]

Because you don't like her politics libs like you are hoping that people who do agree with her on policy will bite on the lesbian smear and reject her for that.

I don't pretend to be able to influence the GOP primary process in any way, nor would I care to even try. It is pure comedy gold from my perspective and I think that the divergent blocs within the GOP base will arrange themselves in a circular firing squad like they have the past two elections and do themselves in. It's just fun to watch from an outsider's perspective. I would imagine that, being arrayed in that circle as a member of one of those core blocs would be somewhat bothersome.

[Bob]

I know. I know.

Your flock are victims.

[Bob]

I don't pretend to be able to influence the GOP primary process in any way, nor would I care to even try. It is pure comedy gold from my perspective and I think that the divergent blocs within the GOP base will arrange themselves in a circular firing squad like they have the past two elections and do themselves in. It's just fun to watch from an outsider's perspective. I would imagine that, being arrayed in that circle as a member of one of those core blocs would be somewhat bothersome.

It pleases me the left wingers are so cocky.

They were in 2010 and 2012 as well.

[silvereyes]

Dude...it comes from both sides...please...

Except mac didnt bitch about what was said about hillary. Whys that? And it was pure d smearing.

[Mac-7]

I don't pretend to be able to influence the GOP primary process in any way, nor would I care to even try. It is pure comedy gold from my perspective and I think that the divergent blocs within the GOP base will arrange themselves in a circular firing squad like they have the past two elections and do themselves in. It's just fun to watch from an outsider's perspective. I would imagine that, being arrayed in that circle as a member of one of those core blocs would be somewhat bothersome.

Since the lesbian smear is just an unproven lib lie the firing squad is not necessary.

[Mac-7]

Except mac didnt $#@! about what was said about hillary. Whys that? And it was pure d smearing.

I'm a partisan.

But PolWatch claims to be non partisan yet here she is acting like the democrat lib shill that I always believed she was.

[silvereyes]

Because you don't like her politics libs like you are hoping that people who do agree with her on policy will bite on the lesbian smear and reject her for that.
Which no one did. Ill give you a dollar for any you find.

[silvereyes]

Your flock are victims.

Lol. What are you rambling about?

[Redrose]

Yeah...but he doesn't...


That's his right. OK by me.

[silvereyes]

I'm a partisan.

But PolWatch claims to be non partisan yet here she is acting like the democrat lib shill that I always believed she was.
Yep, a hypocrite partisan.

Care to take the jackass who said those things about hil to task? Of course not.

Dismissed until you treat all the same.

[Mac-7]

Which no one did. Ill give you a dollar for any you find.

Post #13.


yeap...does this mean you would vote for someone that might be gay? even if you think they have no right to exist? amazing....

[Mac-7]

Yep, a hypocrite partisan.

Care to take the jackass who said those things about hil to task? Of course not.

Dismissed until you treat all the same.

I don't care what anyone says about Hillary.


But I'm a partisan republican.

Polwatch however claims to be non partisan.

And btw, most of the libs smearing Rice claim to be pro homosexual.

[silvereyes]

I don't care what anyone says about Hillary.


But I'm a partisan republican.

Polwatch however claims to be non partisan.

And btw, most of the libs smearing Rice claim to be pro homosexual.
Wait. It just occured to me. You think possibly being homosexual is a smear. No, its not....especially if true. Theres nothing with being gay. Only anti-gays think that way.

That onus is on YOU.

[silvereyes]

Post #13.

Explain how thats a smear on rice.

[Bob]

Not that important to me. I like her views, style, intelligence, background, persona, and speech delivery.

Condi is brilliant and extremely well thought of. But she has not governed a state yet. Working with Bush no doubt was good training and that may be enough since she worked both with him directly then ran State.

Her being in the race could sure not hurt.

[Hal Jordan]

Explain how thats a smear on rice.

He can't, because it's clearly not.

[Bob]

Wait. It just occured to me. You think possibly being homosexual is a smear. No, its not....especially if true. Theres nothing with being gay. Only anti-gays think that way.

That onus is on YOU.

Clearly homosexuality is an enormous defect in humans. Nothing about it acts to preserve the human beings. By making it appear normal, you seem to approve the defective humans.

Now, politically that is not likely to harm Condi. And she is brilliant, accomplished and one fine person.

[Safety]

Clearly homosexuality is an enormous defect in humans. Nothing about it acts to preserve the human beings. By making it appear normal, you seem to approve the defective humans.

Now, politically that is not likely to harm Condi. And she is brilliant, accomplished and one fine person.

It is not your nor my place to approve anything in regards to another person's feelings or pursuit of happiness. The simple fact that you think someone is a defect because they are homosexual is not only arrogant but also douchy. You claim to be a person of faith, so why don't you show some candor when speaking about a person who has no control over how they were born.

Grow up, Bob.

[silvereyes]

Still no bitching about the nastiness about hillary either. None.

[Bob]

Still no bitching about the nastiness about hillary either. None.

A retired FBI agent blew the whistle on Hillary in his book called Unlimited Access.

http://www.amazon.com/Unlimited-Access-Agent-Inside-Clinton/dp/0895264064#customerReviews

Live in DC ... teach H.S. ....and .. a past tense Democrat (http://www.amazon.com/review/R2356XXX33J5RZ/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0895264064&nodeID=283155&store=books)
By A Customer on December 16, 1999
Format: HardcoverThis book made me angry .. yet I couldn't put it down. Rumors from many sources had reached me prior to reading this book .. the Monica bit made me sick .. yet I've noted that this book was written prior to the Monica affair...most curious for a "fabrication"as some would like us to believe. Living here in DC folks often come in contact with those who give you "tidbits".. when I add up the tidbits .. and the known facts, this mess slams me in the face. An interesting note.. at present, Clinton is immune from prosecution and civil suits until he leaves office...BUT what if his wife becomes a Senator? Isn't a Senator's spouse immune too? Seems a convenient way to avoid prosecution. I guess what makes me even angrier is that I am trying to teach my students to be good citizens, to have faith in the system ... how do I answer their challenges when the White House has so little reguard for common decency? I'm A single parent who works hard, pays taxes, and finds that my dollars are squandered. This book is REAL .. that's the scary part .. and it's only the tip of the iceburg. This is a must on the read list .. thank you Gary for having the guts to write this ... most are too afraid.

If you don't want your bubble busted about the Clinton years, don't read this. (http://www.amazon.com/review/RVMB614D7V7Y/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0895264064&nodeID=283155&store=books)
By Steven Smith (http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A30E5DMAQWHTLG/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp) on March 30, 2006
Format: PaperbackAs a career FBI officer, Gary Aldrich was at the pinnacle of his career. Having served with Pres. Reagan and Bush, he found the Clinton Administration to be a stark, horrible contrast.

As one of two FBI agents permanently assigned to the White House, one of his responsibilities was to do the background checks on White House staff and advisors. At almost every turn, he was stonewalled and not allowed to do even perfunctory checks of Clinton's friends and associates... Though it is supposed to be complete within 90 days of the new President assuming office, many people never did get properly "vetted".

Another major disappointment was the crude and vulgar language used by Clinton and his First Lady, the "F" word being quite popular.

Then there was the revulsion he experienced when asked to help decorate the White House Christmas tree, only to discover that the majority of the "ornaments" were sex toys.

There are many other examples of the appaling lack of character exhibited by the Clintons and their cronies... so much so that Aldrich finally had enough, and retired early...

The book isn't a literary masterpiece, it's a litany of the excesses, abuse of power, and moral turpitude of the persons we should be able to look to for leadership and moral courage.

Look at the link and closely read the third review of the book.

[Bob]

It is not your nor my place to approve anything in regards to another person's feelings or pursuit of happiness. The simple fact that you think someone is a defect because they are homosexual is not only arrogant but also douchy. You claim to be a person of faith, so why don't you show some candor when speaking about a person who has no control over how they were born.

Grow up, Bob.

Fine defect. You must grow up and not throw temper tantrums.

[Peter1469]

It is not your nor my place to approve anything in regards to another person's feelings or pursuit of happiness. The simple fact that you think someone is a defect because they are homosexual is not only arrogant but also douchy. You claim to be a person of faith, so why don't you show some candor when speaking about a person who has no control over how they were born.

Grow up, Bob.

You could probably also call it evil.

[Mac-7]

Wait. It just occured to me. You think possibly being homosexual is a smear. No, its not....especially if true. Theres nothing with being gay. Only anti-gays think that way.

That onus is on YOU.

Anti gay?

Certainly.

And lib spear carriers here are hoping that enough repubs are anti gay enough to keep Rice off the republican ticket and out of the senate.

Because the secret partisans here want the democrats to win.

[Mac-7]

Originally Posted by Safety
It is not your nor my place to approve anything in regards to another person's feelings or pursuit of happiness. The simple fact that you think someone is a defect because they are homosexual is not only arrogant but also douchy. You claim to be a person of faith, so why don't you show some candor when speaking about a person who has no control over how they were born.




That stirring defense of sexual abnormality will work just as well when libertines (aka libs) rally for acceptance of pedophilia, incest and beastiality.

[maineman]

It pleases me the left wingers are so $#@!y.

They were in 2010 and 2012 as well.

do you understand the basic difference between a series of regional elections and winning one big national election? It would seem not.

[maineman]

Since the lesbian smear is just an unproven lib lie the firing squad is not necessary.

you failed to understand the analogy. Condi won't be the only one shooting - or being shot at.

[silvereyes]

A retired FBI agent blew the whistle on Hillary in his book called Unlimited Access.

http://www.amazon.com/Unlimited-Access-Agent-Inside-Clinton/dp/0895264064#customerReviews

Live in DC ... teach H.S. ....and .. a past tense Democrat (http://www.amazon.com/review/R2356XXX33J5RZ/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0895264064&nodeID=283155&store=books)
By A Customer on December 16, 1999
Format: HardcoverThis book made me angry .. yet I couldn't put it down. Rumors from many sources had reached me prior to reading this book .. the Monica bit made me sick .. yet I've noted that this book was written prior to the Monica affair...most curious for a "fabrication"as some would like us to believe. Living here in DC folks often come in contact with those who give you "tidbits".. when I add up the tidbits .. and the known facts, this mess slams me in the face. An interesting note.. at present, Clinton is immune from prosecution and civil suits until he leaves office...BUT what if his wife becomes a Senator? Isn't a Senator's spouse immune too? Seems a convenient way to avoid prosecution. I guess what makes me even angrier is that I am trying to teach my students to be good citizens, to have faith in the system ... how do I answer their challenges when the White House has so little reguard for common decency? I'm A single parent who works hard, pays taxes, and finds that my dollars are squandered. This book is REAL .. that's the scary part .. and it's only the tip of the iceburg. This is a must on the read list .. thank you Gary for having the guts to write this ... most are too afraid.

If you don't want your bubble busted about the Clinton years, don't read this. (http://www.amazon.com/review/RVMB614D7V7Y/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=0895264064&nodeID=283155&store=books)
By Steven Smith (http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A30E5DMAQWHTLG/ref=cm_cr_dp_pdp) on March 30, 2006
Format: PaperbackAs a career FBI officer, Gary Aldrich was at the pinnacle of his career. Having served with Pres. Reagan and Bush, he found the Clinton Administration to be a stark, horrible contrast.

As one of two FBI agents permanently assigned to the White House, one of his responsibilities was to do the background checks on White House staff and advisors. At almost every turn, he was stonewalled and not allowed to do even perfunctory checks of Clinton's friends and associates... Though it is supposed to be complete within 90 days of the new President assuming office, many people never did get properly "vetted".

Another major disappointment was the crude and vulgar language used by Clinton and his First Lady, the "F" word being quite popular.

Then there was the revulsion he experienced when asked to help decorate the White House Christmas tree, only to discover that the majority of the "ornaments" were sex toys.

There are many other examples of the appaling lack of character exhibited by the Clintons and their cronies... so much so that Aldrich finally had enough, and retired early...

The book isn't a literary masterpiece, it's a litany of the excesses, abuse of power, and moral turpitude of the persons we should be able to look to for leadership and moral courage.

Look at the link and closely read the third review of the book.




Annnnnd? Youre dull point?

Mine remains. Calling hillary names and crapping on her is A-ok.

Hinting at rumors about rice baaaaaad.

H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.S.

[Safety]

Fine defect. You must grow up and not throw temper tantrums.

You mean what you do when someone compares your faith to another's? Yea, like I said, grow up.

[Safety]

That stirring defense of sexual abnormality will work just as well when libertines (aka libs) rally for acceptance of pedophilia, incest and beastiality.

Well, when you're ready to come out of the closet with your bestiality, incest and pedophilia, you probably need to find someone to come to your defense. I don't think "libs" will.