Angry Republicans

[Cigar]

Something I found a couple years ago ... the writer I'm not sure, but the write has to say is interesting. No naturally any self respecting Republican will deny and denounce every word; and that would be everything I would expect.

Enjoy and let me know if you recolonize any pattern :)

August 3, 2010
Why are Republicans so angry? They don’t argue with Democrats; they vilify them. Instead of disagreeing with President Obama’s policies, they call him a Hitler, a Stalin, a terrorist, a socialist, a communist, the anti-Christ, someone who hates whites - the list is endless. Republicans spew the same kind of ravenous rage towards Nancy Pelosi and other prominent Democrats. Why?

People say politics is a contact sport. Maybe it is. But the way Republicans approach it it is not a sport. In athletic sports we insist you follow the rules and that you respect the winner. Well, the winner is Barack Obama. At the very beginning of this administration, Rush Limbaugh, the titular hear of the Republican Party, said he wanted Obama to fail. All the luminaries on Fox News immediately followed his lead, spitting daily invective against Obama, Democrats and anything even remotely related to Democrats. Republican legislators in Congress followed suit.

Pundits say it has always been this way. No, it has not always been this way. Sure, during election season the parties would throw calamitous dirt at each other. But after winners were chosen, the mud-slinging would diminish. There was a certain amount of respect each side had for the other side.

But in the last decade or so, Republicans have become emotional and irrational.

(full article at link)
http://www.watchblog.com/democrats/archives/007162.html

[Cigar]

Well ... when someone sent me this, they said it would shut Republicans up because they have no retort.

Mission accomplished :)

[Peter1469]

Each of those "laws" may sometimes be true, and sometimes wrong.

We need regulation. Just not overburdening regulation.

We need taxes to run government; just enough to run a limited government, not a totalitarian State like you and your ilk desire.

[URF8]

Well ... when someone sent me this, they said it would shut Republicans up because they have no retort.

Mission accomplished :)

I'm not angry. I'm only interested in destroying what you want to build. Building is difficult. Destroying is easy.

Btw, I'm not a Republican. Republicans aren't sufficiently focused.

[Goldie Locks]

I'm not a republican either, I'm a Constitutionalist. We are just trying to save the Republic is all. Something you wouldn't know or even care about. Ubama has been called those names because that is what he is....a Stateist, commie, socialist and he is a racist. Gawd do some fucking research on the guy. His friends, associates, his cabinet, his mentors. You have your head stuck so far up your ass it's a wonder you can even survive.

Angry, Hell yes I'm angry!!! I'm angry that there are so many ignorant people in this country that they can't even see what is happening right in front of their face.

[Aristophanes]

Something I found a couple years ago ... the writer I'm not sure, but the write has to say is interesting. No naturally any self respecting Republican will deny and denounce every word; and that would be everything I would expect.

Enjoy and let me know if you recolonize any pattern :)


Why are Republicans so angry? They don’t argue with Democrats; they vilify them. Instead of disagreeing with President Obama’s policies, they call him a Hitler, a Stalin, a terrorist, a socialist, a communist, the anti-Christ, someone who hates whites - the list is endless. Republicans spew the same kind of ravenous rage towards Nancy Pelosi and other prominent Democrats. Why?

People say politics is a contact sport. Maybe it is. But the way Republicans approach it it is not a sport. In athletic sports we insist you follow the rules and that you respect the winner. Well, the winner is Barack Obama. At the very beginning of this administration, Rush Limbaugh, the titular hear of the Republican Party, said he wanted Obama to fail. All the luminaries on Fox News immediately followed his lead, spitting daily invective against Obama, Democrats and anything even remotely related to Democrats. Republican legislators in Congress followed suit.


Pundits say it has always been this way. No, it has not always been this way. Sure, during election season the parties would throw calamitous dirt at each other. But after winners were chosen, the mud-slinging would diminish. There was a certain amount of respect each side had for the other side.


But in the last decade or so, Republicans have become emotional and irrational. Since Obama's election, Republicans have become hysterical. Just listen to the ridiculous stuff spouted by Limbaugh's lieutenants: Palin, Beck and Bachmann.
Why are Republicans hysterically angry? Why do people, in general, get angry? Because things do not work out the way they expected. Or because they don't know what to do in a crisis. Or because they realize that what they believed all their life is not true; this is sometimes called congnitive dissonance.


It seems to me that Republicans are faced with cognitive dissonance. Ever since Reagan, they believed in 2 immutable "laws":


1. Deregulation will produce a booming economy
2. Tax cuts will increase government revenue


Although they may not admit it, those Republicans who have a brain can see that neither of these two "laws" is true. It should be obvious to them by now that adhering to these two "laws" was a big cause, perhaps the most important cause, of the current terrible depression.


When Democrats like me denounce deregulation and tax cuts for the rich, Republicans have no rational retort. Their emotions run wild and crazy. They go ballistic criticizing Democrats.
To my angry Republican friends I say, Calm down and start using your head. It may help you build a more rational Republican program.Maybe the left should have considered the hereafter during the ChimpyBushitler years.

The left has the corner on hate and vitriol, and now the shoe's on the other foot. How does it feel?

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[roadmaster]

The hard liberals, you know the ones who hate America and the freedoms we have left are the ones that should be sent to foreign countries. I remember the ones who spit on our soldiers coming home from Vietnam. They say it didn't happen but I remember seeing it on TV.

[Cigar]

The hard liberals, you know the ones who hate America and the freedoms we have left are the ones that should be sent to foreign countries. I remember the ones who spit on our soldiers coming home from Vietnam. They say it didn't happen but I remember seeing it on TV.


You are kidding; you are going back to the 60s for this Thread?

Thats your argument?

Thats a lot of anger for a long time.

Welcome to the Club.

[Trinnity]

Is that anger or a memory? Sounds like a memory to me.

[Chris]

But in the last decade or so, Republicans have become emotional and irrational.

That's natural, from a liberal, and it would be just as natural for a conservative to say the same of a Democrat.

John Haidt, a psychologist at the University of Virginia, has been studying this. Here's a decent summary fromScience Asks: Why Can't We All Just Get Along? (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/03/science-asks-why-cant-we-all-just-get-along/254644/). His theory says
Political liberals tend to rely primarily on the moral foundation of care/harm, followed by fairness/cheating and liberty/oppression. Social conservatives, in contrast, use all six foundations. They are less concerned than liberals about harm to innocent victims, but they are much more concerned about the moral foundations that bind groups and nations together, i.e., loyalty (patriotism), authority (law and order, traditional families), and sanctity (the Bible, God, the flag as a sacred object). Libertarians, true to their name, value liberty more than anyone else, and they value it far more than any other foundation.He explains
Morality binds and blinds. This is not just something that happens to people on the other side. We all get sucked into tribal moral communities. We circle around sacred values and then share post hoc arguments about why we are so right and they are so wrong. We think the other side is blind to truth, reason, science, and common sense, but in fact everyone goes blind when talking about their sacred objects. Morality binds us into ideological teams that fight each other as though the fate of the world depended on our side winning each battle. It blinds us to the fact that each team is composed of good people who have something important to say.One other finding: Liberals aren't really able to understand conservatives. Thus we see things wirtten like the OP.

[Cigar]

Is that anger or a memory? Sounds like a memory to me.

Well ... if we're going to talk Memory and going Backwards .. why not go back 400+ years for the truth?

My Grandparents taught me a lot about the way it really was, so let not go there today.

This Tread is about Angry Republicans ... today. :)

[patrickt]

Rachel Maddow, Howard Dean, Ed Schultz, Debbie Wasserman, Chris Mathews, Martin Bashir, President Obama, Al Sharpton, George Soros, Donald Trumpka, and many others represent the Democrat Party. So civil, rational, loyal, decent, honest. So unlike the nasty Republicans. We can see the face...well, maybe it's not the face...of the Democrats in the civil, rational, knowledgable, gentle people in OWS.

So, I wish Cigar well on his fraudlent journey. Maybe he'll get a show on MSNBC. Lord knows they're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

[Cigar]

Rachel Maddow, Howard Dean, Ed Schultz, Debbie Wasserman, Chris Mathews, Martin Bashir, President Obama, Al Sharpton, George Soros, Donald Trumpka, and many others represent the Democrat Party. So civil, rational, loyal, decent, honest. So unlike the nasty Republicans. We can see the face...well, maybe it's not the face...of the Democrats in the civil, rational, knowledgable, gentle people in OWS.

So, I wish Cigar well on his fraudlent journey. Maybe he'll get a show on MSNBC. Lord knows they're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Just give me 15 minutes ... and I will scrape the bottom. :)

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[Carygrant]

But in the last decade or so, Republicans have become emotional and irrational.


As an innocent abroad , I have often wondered if most Republicans are old .
The voice that reaches me is a sad one , weary and full of bile .
I don't know if I want to hear about young ones being present because this is surely a species close to extinction already .
Won't the young ones feel so lonely as the world moves on but they are left huddled together whining and moaning ?
Should Democrats treat them more kindly , knowing their inevitable demise?

[Cigar]

As an innocent abroad , I have often wondered if most Republicans are old .
The voice that reaches me is a sad one , weary and full of bile .
I don't know if I want to hear about young ones being present because this is surely a species close to extinction already .
Won't the young ones feel so lonely as the world moves on but they are left huddled together whining and moaning ?
Should Democrats treat them more kindly , knowing their inevitable demise?

They are such a Loving and Inclusive Group of people, it's totally a mystery why they are so lonely and angry. :)

[Chris]

As an innocent abroad , I have often wondered if most Republicans are old .
The voice that reaches me is a sad one , weary and full of bile .
I don't know if I want to hear about young ones being present because this is surely a species close to extinction already .
Won't the young ones feel so lonely as the world moves on but they are left huddled together whining and moaning ?
Should Democrats treat them more kindly , knowing their inevitable demise?

In post #11 I explained some of Haidt's theory, that liberals really don't understand conservatives, just incapable. Instead, believing everyone must be like them, they project their own image and attitudes onto others, mistakenly.

[Chris]

They are such a Loving and Inclusive Group of people, it's totally a mystery why they are so lonely and angry. :)

Another case of projection.

[Cigar]

Another case of projection.

Ever hear of YouTube?

[Carygrant]

In post #11 I explained some of Haidt's theory, that liberals really don't understand conservatives, just incapable. Instead, believing everyone must be like them, they project their own image and attitudes onto others, mistakenly.


I suspect I am taking the subject with a bigger pinch of salt than you are .
Of course there are very nice individual Republicans , here and there . But it's when they start flocking together that something slips in their make up or brain reactions .Or both .
But every top boxer needs a useful sparring partner , and as long as they continue to realise their true position in the pecking order , we can continue working happily for all of us .

[Chris]

I suspect I am taking the subject with a bigger pinch of salt than you are .
Of course there are very nice individual Republicans , here and there . But it's when they start flocking together that something slips in their make up or brain reactions .Or both .
But every top boxer needs a useful sparring partner , and as long as they continue to realise their true position in the pecking order , we can continue working happily for all of us .

I suspect there's some in every crowd, Rep, Dem and whatnot. I post on another forum where if you describe a lib as a lib they take it as a pejorative and launch into personal attack and it's like disturbing a hornets nest bcause all the other libs jump in. But I understand, they think "conservative" is pejorative so "liberal" must be too.

[gamewell45]

I'm not a republican either, I'm a Constitutionalist. We are just trying to save the Republic is all. Something you wouldn't know or even care about. Ubama has been called those names because that is what he is....a Stateist, commie, socialist and he is a racist. Gawd do some fucking research on the guy. His friends, associates, his cabinet, his mentors. You have your head stuck so far up your ass it's a wonder you can even survive.

Angry, Hell yes I'm angry!!! I'm angry that there are so many ignorant people in this country that they can't even see what is happening right in front of their face.

One thing you need to keep in mind is whether your a Constitutionalist, Republican, Democrat, or other political party is that they are all members of the same hipocracy. The sooner you acknowledge and accept this the sooner you'll keep your anger and blood pressure down.

[Cigar]

I suspect there's some in every crowd, Rep, Dem and whatnot. I post on another forum where if you describe a lib as a lib they take it as a pejorative and launch into personal attack and it's like disturbing a hornets nest bcause all the other libs jump in. But I understand, they think "conservative" is pejorative so "liberal" must be too.

I take both literally by their definition and prefer to be called progressive, because at the end of the day, I'd like to actually get somewhere.

[Mainecoons]

What a bunch of BS. You lefties really don't have much to keep you busy, eh?

[Cigar]

What a bunch of BS. You lefties really don't have much to keep you busy, eh?

Are you kidding, we always have time to laugh at Conservatives, they are so funny.

[patrickt]

I'm impressed, Cigar. I didn't think anyone living in Illinois was laughing. Liberals and crooks, a redundancy, I know, rule in Illinois.

[Cigar]

I'm impressed, Cigar. I didn't think anyone living in Illinois was laughing. Liberals and crooks, a redundancy, I know, rule in Illinois.

Right after I get my cut ... :)

[Chris]

I take both literally by their definition and prefer to be called progressive, because at the end of the day, I'd like to actually get somewhere.

We'd all like to get somewhere, just that it helps to know where there is and how best to get there.


Progressive, liberal, socialist--by any other name would be as thorny.

[Cigar]

We'd all like to get somewhere, just that it helps to know where there is and how best to get there.


Progressive, liberal, socialist--by any other name would be as thorny.


When you're standing on the Tracks of Life ... what would you rather be?

[Trinnity]

Well ... if we're going to talk Memory and going Backwards .. why not go back 400+ years for the truth?

My Grandparents taught me a lot about the way it really was, so let not go there today.

This Tread is about Angry Republicans ... today. :) Your grandparents were not alive 400 years ago and neither were their grandparents.

What truth are you talking about?

[Cigar]

Your grandparents were not alive 400 years ago and neither were their grandparents.

What truth are you talking about?

Memories get handed down along with heritages ...

[MMC]

Right after I get my cut ... :)



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[MMC]

When you're standing on the Tracks of Life ... what would you rather be?


Right! :wink: :laugh:

[Cigar]

Right! :wink: :laugh:

Well ... even the people who are Dead Right is Right Once! :)

[Mainecoons]

This reminds me of what my buddy the smoker said the other day. He pointed out that 75 percent of the people don't smoke, and they die. Twenty five percent do smoke, and they also die. Therefore, if you don't smoke, you're three times as likely to die as a smoker.

I suggested to him that he apply to the Obama election team for the job of explaining how Obama has created so much prosperity.

He's thinking about it. I think he'd fit right in.

:grin:

[coolwalker]

I disagree with everything Obama says. He could call me at 10 o'clock and tell me it was 10 o'clock and I would first look at my watch before blindly believing him. Obama is a boil on our collective butts.

[Cigar]

This reminds me of what my buddy the smoker said the other day. He pointed out that 75 percent of the people don't smoke, and they die. Twenty five percent do smoke, and they also die. Therefore, if you don't smoke, you're three times as likely to die as a smoker.

I suggested to him that he apply to the Obama election team for the job of explaining how Obama has created so much prosperity.

He's thinking about it. I think he'd fit right in.

:grin:



I'm just surprised you have someone to call a Buddy ... :)

[Chris]

Right! :wink: :laugh:

You understood that question?!?!? :huh:

[Mainecoons]

I would be surprised if you have anything other than juvenile acne and too much time on your hands. You are a creative and entertaining troll though.

:grin:

[Cigar]

I would be surprised if you have anything other than juvenile acne and too much time on your hands. You are a creative and entertaining troll though.

:grin:


Brother you don't know the have of it ... just wait until you really get to know me. :)

[Mainecoons]

Don't flatter yourself. I wouldn't bother. Just stay in your bedroom and play with your computer and keep reminding us of how stupid liberals really are. It's entertaining.

[MMC]

You understood that question?!?!? :huh:


Well.....:undecided: there was only one answer! :wink:

[Chris]

Well.....:undecided: there was only one answer! :wink:

I thought he was asking about The Isley Brothers and which track on their Tracks of Life album. I couldn't decide. :-P

[URF8]

As an innocent abroad , I have often wondered if most Republicans are old .
The voice that reaches me is a sad one , weary and full of bile .
I don't know if I want to hear about young ones being present because this is surely a species close to extinction already .
Won't the young ones feel so lonely as the world moves on but they are left huddled together whining and moaning ?
Should Democrats treat them more kindly , knowing their inevitable demise?

What does a group do when it faces demise at the hands of its enemies? Does it go gently into that good night? No.

What did Tecumseh and Crazy Horse do? Did they accommodate the White invaders? No. They resisted. Sometimes one can choose the manner of one's death. Crazy Horse and Tecumseh had to be shot out of the saddle in order to stop their resistance.

But we are a much larger group than the First Peoples of North America. What does one do when one faces certain demise? What makes you think the polity known as the United States of America will continue to exist? Can that polity survive when it is sandbagged and backstabbed to the point of its own demise?

When a group faces demise at the hands of its enemies that group scorches the earth.

America's politics are now divided between two camps who view each other as one views a foreign enemy. One camp is primarily composed of white people and the other camp is primarily composed of non-white people.

Young white people are generally poorly educated. They face a poorer and meaner existence because America no longer produces the excess wealth it once did. In order for non-whites to move up the great mass of white people will have to move down the economic food chain. This will be explosive. As the Bard wrote:

And Caesar's spirit, raging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry "Havoc!" and let
slip the dogs of war,
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial.

Julius Caesar Act 3, scene
1, 270–275 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/jc-text/act-iii-scene-i?start=2#jul-3-1-293)

[URF8]

I'm just surprised you have someone to call a Buddy ... :)

Why do you bother to post personal attacks?

[Mainecoons]

Because he has so little of substance to offer?

[Goldie Locks]

Brother you don't know the have of it ... just wait until you really get to know me. :)


Do we half to?

[Cigar]

Why do you bother to post personal attacks?

I don't think you really know what a personal attack really is or what if feels like.