Romneys Response to Supreme Court Ruling.....

[MMC]

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MITT ROMNEY: “What the Court did not do on its last day in session, I will do on my first day if elected President of the United States. And that is I will act to repeal Obamacare.

“Let’s make clear that we understand what the Court did and did not do. What the Court did today was say that Obamacare does not violate the Constitution. What they did not do was say that Obamacare is good law or that it’s good policy.

“Obamacare was bad policy yesterday. It’s bad policy today. Obamacare was bad law yesterday. It’s bad law today. Let me tell you why I say that. Obamacare raises taxes on the American people by approximately $500 billion. Obamacare cuts Medicare, cuts Medicare, by approximately $500 billion. And even with those cuts, and tax increases, Obamacare adds trillions to our deficits and to our national debt and pushes those obligations on to coming generations. Obamacare also means that for up to 20 million Americans, they will lose the insurance they currently have, the insurance that they like and they want to keep. Obamacare is a job killer. Businesses across the country have been asked what the impact is of Obamacare. Three quarters of those surveyed by the Chamber of Commerce said Obamacare makes it less likely for them to hire people. And perhaps most troubling of all, Obamacare puts the federal government between you and your doctor.“

And so this is now a time for the American people to make a choice. You can choose whether you want to have a larger and larger government, more and more intrusive in your life—separating you and your doctor—whether you’re comfortable with more deficits, higher debt that we pass onto the coming generations. Whether you’re willing to have the government put in place a plan that potentially causes you to lose the insurance that you like or whether instead you want to return to a time when the American people will have their own choice in healthcare. Where consumers will be able to make their choices as to what kind of health insurance they want.....snip~

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/06/28/transcript-of-romneys-remarks-on-the-supreme-court-ruling/
June 28, 2012, 1:30 PM

[Cigar]

Replace with What Mitt-Liar?

Got a plan you'd like to share?

[Shoot the Goose]

This ruling still keeps it as a huge club. However, had they ruled it part Unconstitutional, while leaving most, I think that would have been the best position for Romney, as he could point to SCOTUS saying it was part Constitutionally flawed, and the rest bad. For some in the middle on the issue, it would have undermined Obama a little bit more.

TAX is sure an ugly word though. And Romney will surely use that to paint it as one huge charade of lies by Obama.

Put a third way. If it was an anchor around Obama's neck yesterday, the SCOTUS left it there today.

[Cigar]

Mitt Romney had an opportunity to rise to the occasion today and tell the American people specifically how he would move the nation forward on health care and ensure people get the care they need. Yet, once again, he squandered that opportunity. Instead of explaining how he would ensure costs don’t go up and health benefits are protected, Romney promised to repeal the President’s health reform law and take America back to the same old political battles of the past. He is completely unmoved by what that would do to millions of middle-class families, women, seniors and young Americans who are today benefiting from the law. Romney’s promise to repeal the law would give insurance companies free rein to exploit Americans through the worst industry abuses, strip 86 million Americans of often life-saving preventive care, cost 3.1 million young Americans of their coverage by kicking them off their parents’ plans, allow insurance companies to discriminate against kids with preexisting conditions, and increase prescription drug costs for seniors on Medicare.

Just six years ago, before Mitt Romney decided to run for president, he passed a law in Massachusetts that achieved universal coverage for the citizens of that state through an individual mandate and tax penalty. That law became the model for the President’s health reform law. Now, as he is running for president, Romney has run away from his accomplishment in Massachusetts, callously promising to repeal national reform and “kill it dead.” He owes the American people a clear, non-parsed explanation of why he believes his decisions in Massachusetts are wrong for the country, and exactly what he would do to help the American people get the health care they need.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1104027/-Obama-camp-Romney-missed-opportunity-to-move-country-forward-with-his-callous-statement?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+(Daily+Kos) (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1104027/-Obama-camp-Romney-missed-opportunity-to-move-country-forward-with-his-callous-statement?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29)

[roadmaster]

I want to know what type of strain this puts on middle and poor class Americans. Will they have to decide on paying the water or electricity bill or food for the family? Will they put them in jail if they can't? Too many 99ers out their stuck in mim wage jobs right now. The ones who do have insurance, will it get where they can't afford insurance? Too many questions.

[Cigar]

I want to know what type of strain this puts on middle and poor class Americans. Will they have to decide on paying the water or electricity bill or food for the family? Will they put them in jail if they can't? Too many 99ers out their stuck in mim wage jobs right now. The ones who do have insurance, will it get where they can't afford insurance? Too many questions.

Are they the same Americans (Police, Firemen and Teachers) Mitt was laughing at last week? :)

[roadmaster]

Are they the same Americans (Police, Firemen and Teachers) Mitt was laughing at last week? :)

Don't follow and have no idea what he said. I do know many poor and middle class that can't afford insurance much less visit the dentist.

[MMC]

Are they the same Americans (Police, Firemen and Teachers) Mitt was laughing at last week? :)

No its all the Unemployed Americans that keep swelling the ranks that will not be able to afford insurance nor get vouches all for being in a Catch 22 and inbetween jobs. Like for more than 2 years. Guess the left didn't see that coming.....huh? Or did they and did it anyways intentionally. :undecided:

[Cigar]

No its all the Unemployed Americans that keep swelling the ranks that will not be able to afford insurance nor get vouches all for being in a Catch 22 and inbetween jobs. Like for more than 2 years. Guess the left didn't see that coming.....huh? Or did they and did it anyways intentionally. :undecided:



Wow ... I'm touched ... Conservative now care about these people?

[coolwalker]

Replace with What Mitt-Liar?

Got a plan you'd like to share?
Yes, go to www.mittromney.com (http://www.mittromney.com) and try reading, you will see his plan.

[coolwalker]

Wow ... I'm touched ... Conservative now care about these people?

Conservatives have always cared, to help, not carry.

[roadmaster]

Wow ... I'm touched ... Conservative now care about these people?

I always have. Let a person with catastrophic illness and most companies will find a way to let them go. Insurance companies won't touch them or claim pre-existing conditions and leave them out to dry. I have seen people lose their homes that worked all their lives.

[Cigar]

I always have. Let a person with catastrophic illness and most companies will find a way to let them go. Insurance companies won't touch them or claim pre-existing conditions and leave them out to dry. I have seen people lose their homes that worked all their lives.

You mean you're NOT going to Boooo ....

[MMC]

Wow ... I'm touched ... Conservative now care about these people?

Wow.....:shocked: that you believe Obama cares. Especially with all those stats on how much he has helped those of the Black Vote that fell for his Cool in You Image. At least the bruthas and sistas are waking up to this fact. Especially as that Unemployment for them continues to rise.

[roadmaster]

You mean you're NOT going to Boooo ....

I am an independent con. I believe everyone that is legal in the US should have affordable health insurance and not let them deny a person based on what they make for a living or cut them off because of an illness. Just don't want to see people put in jail for not being able to afford this.

[MMC]

In the hours after the Supreme Court ruling, Romney aides were quick to tout a spike in fundraising. According to the campaign, more than $300,000 rolled into the Romney Victory Fund within the first 90 minutes after the ruling. A spokeswoman said the money was raised "organically" and not through a specific fundraising plea.

During his news conference, Romney was also silent on Chief Justice John Roberts, who surprised many Republicans by providing the crucial fifth vote needed to uphold the health care law and prompted some conservatives to call for his impeachment (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77947.html).

It has begun!

[Peter1469]

Mitt Romney had an opportunity to rise to the occasion today and tell the American people specifically how he would move the nation forward on health care and ensure people get the care they need. Yet, once again, he squandered that opportunity. Instead of explaining how he would ensure costs don’t go up and health benefits are protected, Romney promised to repeal the President’s health reform law and take America back to the same old political battles of the past. He is completely unmoved by what that would do to millions of middle-class families, women, seniors and young Americans who are today benefiting from the law. Romney’s promise to repeal the law would give insurance companies free rein to exploit Americans through the worst industry abuses, strip 86 million Americans of often life-saving preventive care, cost 3.1 million young Americans of their coverage by kicking them off their parents’ plans, allow insurance companies to discriminate against kids with preexisting conditions, and increase prescription drug costs for seniors on Medicare.

Just six years ago, before Mitt Romney decided to run for president, he passed a law in Massachusetts that achieved universal coverage for the citizens of that state through an individual mandate and tax penalty. That law became the model for the President’s health reform law. Now, as he is running for president, Romney has run away from his accomplishment in Massachusetts, callously promising to repeal national reform and “kill it dead.” He owes the American people a clear, non-parsed explanation of why he believes his decisions in Massachusetts are wrong for the country, and exactly what he would do to help the American people get the health care they need.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1104027/-Obama-camp-Romney-missed-opportunity-to-move-country-forward-with-his-callous-statement?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+(Daily+Kos)


No mention of the Constitution..., no wonder. You and the majority of SCOTUS don't care about that. We live in a post Constitutional society. I would encourage all to read the dissent. It is a very good explanation of what the Constitution really means.

[Goldie Locks]

Mitt Romney had an opportunity to rise to the occasion today and tell the American people specifically how he would move the nation forward on health care and ensure people get the care they need. Yet, once again, he squandered that opportunity. Instead of explaining how he would ensure costs don’t go up and health benefits are protected, Romney promised to repeal the President’s health reform law and take America back to the same old political battles of the past. He is completely unmoved by what that would do to millions of middle-class families, women, seniors and young Americans who are today benefiting from the law. Romney’s promise to repeal the law would give insurance companies free rein to exploit Americans through the worst industry abuses, strip 86 million Americans of often life-saving preventive care, cost 3.1 million young Americans of their coverage by kicking them off their parents’ plans, allow insurance companies to discriminate against kids with preexisting conditions, and increase prescription drug costs for seniors on Medicare.

Just six years ago, before Mitt Romney decided to run for president, he passed a law in Massachusetts that achieved universal coverage for the citizens of that state through an individual mandate and tax penalty. That law became the model for the President’s health reform law. Now, as he is running for president, Romney has run away from his accomplishment in Massachusetts, callously promising to repeal national reform and “kill it dead.” He owes the American people a clear, non-parsed explanation of why he believes his decisions in Massachusetts are wrong for the country, and exactly what he would do to help the American people get the health care they need.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1104027/-Obama-camp-Romney-missed-opportunity-to-move-country-forward-with-his-callous-statement?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+(Daily+Kos)



I knew you didn't write that as all the words were spelled correctly and the grammar was perfect.

[Peter1469]

Just six years ago, before Mitt Romney decided to run for president, he passed a law in Massachusetts that achieved universal coverage for the citizens of that state through an individual mandate and tax penalty. That law became the model for the President’s health reform law. Now, as he is running for president, Romney has run away from his accomplishment in Massachusetts, callously promising to repeal national reform and “kill it dead.” He owes the American people a clear, non-parsed explanation of why he believes his decisions in Massachusetts are wrong for the country, and exactly what he would do to help the American people get the health care they need.

Except it is causing Mass to go broke! Greece here they come! Don't ask Virginia to bail you out.

[Goldie Locks]

Except it is causing Mass to go broke! Greece here they come! Don't ask Virginia to bail you out.


The whole system will collapse in a matter of time...when I don't know, but within the next few years. Better stock up on food, water, guns, ammo...etc.

[Peter1469]

I here you

[Shoot the Goose]

Mitt Romney had an opportunity to rise to the occasion today and tell the American people specifically how he would move the nation forward on health care and ensure people get the care they need. Yet, once again, he squandered that opportunity. Instead of explaining how he would ensure costs don’t go up and health benefits are protected, Romney promised to repeal the President’s health reform law and take America back to the same old political battles of the past. He is completely unmoved by what that would do to millions of middle-class families, women, seniors and young Americans who are today benefiting from the law. Romney’s promise to repeal the law would give insurance companies free rein to exploit Americans through the worst industry abuses, strip 86 million Americans of often life-saving preventive care, cost 3.1 million young Americans of their coverage by kicking them off their parents’ plans, allow insurance companies to discriminate against kids with preexisting conditions, and increase prescription drug costs for seniors on Medicare.

Just six years ago, before Mitt Romney decided to run for president, he passed a law in Massachusetts that achieved universal coverage for the citizens of that state through an individual mandate and tax penalty. That law became the model for the President’s health reform law. Now, as he is running for president, Romney has run away from his accomplishment in Massachusetts, callously promising to repeal national reform and “kill it dead.” He owes the American people a clear, non-parsed explanation of why he believes his decisions in Massachusetts are wrong for the country, and exactly what he would do to help the American people get the health care they need.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/28/1104027/-Obama-camp-Romney-missed-opportunity-to-move-country-forward-with-his-callous-statement?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+(Daily+Kos)

Liberal dumbass parasite jackasses. MA is a state. Let the states function, for better or worse, within their own laws. They can't print money. They cannot restrict their borders.

And I am growing weary of lard-ass posters in mommy's basement pretending they are other than that.

Busted.

[Goldie Locks]

What part of the constitution will they usurp next???

[Peter1469]

What else is there to usurp? Under Obamacare, Congress can now do whatever they want, so long as the Court later says it is really a tax even if Congress said it wasn't a tax to get it passed into law.

FRAUD.

[Goldie Locks]

What else is there to usurp? Under Obamacare, Congress can now do whatever they want, so long as the Court later says it is really a tax even if Congress said it wasn't a tax to get it passed into law.

FRAUD.

Yep, you're right, it's over...America is over...on to socialism.

[RollingWave]

Mitt's response is actually very level headed and good, I'm lukewarm on the legislation as well, though obviously one can not ignor the irony of him feeling that a not too different law in Massachucases was not bad legislation .

[Peter1469]

Mitt's response is actually very level headed and good, I'm lukewarm on the legislation as well, though obviously one can not ignor the irony of him feeling that a not too different law in Massachucases was not bad legislation .

States actually have the authority to make this sort of legislation.

Despite SCOTUS's ruling, I maintain that the federal government has no such authority.

[RollingWave]

States actually have the authority to make this sort of legislation.

Despite SCOTUS's ruling, I maintain that the federal government has no such authority.
very valid point of course, unfortunately the debate have largely not been around that.

From an economics POV though, scale matter in this and having individual states do it seems problematic in this regard. especially for the smallest onces like Wyoming / Vermont / North D etc

[Peter1469]

very valid point of course, unfortunately the debate have largely not been around that.

From an economics POV though, scale matter in this and having individual states do it seems problematic in this regard. especially for the smallest onces like Wyoming / Vermont / North D etc


Agreed. And our Founders were bright bulbs. They included a provision in the Constitution to add or subtract from it. The Amendment process. But we ignore that.

[Cigar]

States actually have the authority to make this sort of legislation.

Despite SCOTUS's ruling, I maintain that the federal government has no such authority.


ACA long term effect, beyond healthcare.

It appears many of the 26 Republican lead states will not set up there exchanges and turn down the Medicare funds. This will mean 24 states will have the full coverage and the rest some variation. Now lets look a few years beyond 2014. Lets say the ACA is not overturned or weakened by congress. Will the citizens of the 26 states which are still having health care issues start to demand being full participants of the ACA? Will this mean a Democratic take over of politics in some of these states? Could this be the progressive wave we have been hoping for?


Hummm ... you know the old saying, it's better to have Love and Lost than never to have Loved at all ...

Can you imagine the backlash The Republicans Party will get when they try to take away Healthcare from people who have it.

YeaaaaaaaDoggy :afro: