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TrueBlue
03-22-2015, 12:22 AM
Ted Cruz to announce 2016 presidential bid on Monday
By Ashley Killough, CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/politics/ted-cruz-2016-announcement/index.html


"While popular in conservative and tea party circles, Cruz has a long way to go in terms of broader support in the GOP base, according to public opinion polls. A CNN/ORC International survey conducted this month (http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/03/17/poll.2016.pdf) of the hypothetical Republican primary showed Cruz came in with 4% support among Republicans and independents who lean Republican."


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Thanks to CNN for this report. Well if that doesn't beat all. The First-Time Senator from Texas thinks he's ready to become president, of all things. Who told him that he could? He trails other Republicans with a very low SINGLE Digit number. And with his philosophy on matters important to most Americans we can write this one off at this early juncture. He obviously doesn't have a prayer or the support to get anywhere near the Republican nomination.

pjohns
03-22-2015, 12:42 AM
I like Ted Cruz; but I am not sure I would want him to be the Republican nominee for president. That is because he would not be likely to draw many votes from the independents, who typically settle presidential elections.

I think the so-called "Buckley Rule" (named for the late William F. Buckley Jr.) comes into play here: One should support the rightmost candidate who has a serious chance of winning.

Perhaps Scott Walker is the ideal candidate, in this regard: He could probably count upon the votes of both Tea Party Republicans and Establishment Republicans, as well as a significant number of independents' votes...

PolWatch
03-22-2015, 12:46 AM
I think the man is wasting his time. Ted Cruz is associated with leading the government shutdown last year....not a good thing. He will appeal greatly to the far left of the party but I suspect he will scare off the middle of the road repubs and independents. Buckley was right.

Ransom
03-22-2015, 06:27 AM
"scare off" into not voting for him perhaps, what harm there? And why is it a 'scare' anyway, is the man proposing tax hikes? Does he oppose taxpayers funding abortions? Or the really frightening policy of opposing Obamacare? Why so afraid, PolWatch, who causes or convinces you to wet your pants if you hear or see a more conservative thought process or opinion? War? Afraid Cruz is going to ask Congress for an AUMF to go fight ISIS or something? You afraid of a stagnant economy or losing your health insurance plan and/or doctor?

I was earlier scolding about third parties.....the topics in here often veer off on the weaknesses of our two party system, no one gets a voice, a third and fourth alternative needed or more independent voices...... but that is only if you agree with that new party or independent voice. The Tea Party excoriated and labeled racist from its' inception, it was a grass roots movement. Not a splinter from Washington, it today still has no official leader. Targeted by the IRS, the Left's reaction was 'we got em', not 'how dare you', the cover up was aided and abetted by Democrats..... cries that they support third party politics fall on deaf ears in this camp. Today... it's primary season kick off, the election is next fall. Money needs to be raise, this is where voices are heard, whether you agree with Cruz or not, this is healthy American free speech politics ad election process...... and yet some people claim to be scared..... others warning is that this process might 'scare independents off', bother some Republicans.

Disingenuous at best.

Common
03-22-2015, 07:09 AM
Good, I want them all to announce their running so they can eat each other alive during the primary.

What makes every republican think they should run for president ?

del
03-22-2015, 07:14 AM
someone call orly taitz

Green Arrow
03-22-2015, 07:14 AM
Ted Cruz to announce 2016 presidential bid on Monday
By Ashley Killough, CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/politics/ted-cruz-2016-announcement/index.html



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Thanks to CNN for this report. Well if that doesn't beat all. The First-Time Senator from Texas thinks he's ready to become president, of all things. Who told him that he could? He trails other Republicans with a very low SINGLE Digit number. And with his philosophy on matters important to most Americans we can write this one off at this early juncture. He obviously doesn't have a prayer or the support to get anywhere near the Republican nomination.

Assuming Cruz won the nomination, he would have been in the U.S. Senate for three years when he takes office, the exact same amount of time as Barack Obama.

Common
03-22-2015, 07:19 AM
Assuming Cruz won the nomination, he would have been in the U.S. Senate for three years when he takes office, the exact same amount of time as Barack Obama.

Same with Rand Paul and Marco Rubio its going to be fun reminding the right that they dont have enough experience.

Green Arrow
03-22-2015, 07:26 AM
Same with Rand Paul and Marco Rubio its going to be fun reminding the right that they dont have enough experience.

I don't really give much of a shit about experience, honestly. No job out there prepares you for the unique challenges of the presidency, the closest you can get is governor, and even that only handles the domestic side on a small scale. I'm more concerned with whether or not they have the right ideas.

del
03-22-2015, 07:39 AM
ideas without the skills to implement them are useless, imo

PolWatch
03-22-2015, 08:01 AM
Ideals are good but DC is a snake pit. If you don't know how to handle the snakes....we suffer. Handling other politicians requires skill & guile. I think Jimmy Carter was/is a truly good person with the best of intentions. However, my father always said the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

exotix
03-22-2015, 08:37 AM
Is the raging asshole gonna shutdown the Whitehouse as his campaign platform ?

Green Arrow
03-22-2015, 01:14 PM
ideas without the skills to implement them are useless, imo

Our last few Presidents were educated at Harvard, Columbia, Yale, and one was a Rhodes Scholar. All save Obama were governors. Clinton was AG before becoming governor.

So far, that whole experience thing hasn't been working out so well for us.

Peter1469
03-22-2015, 01:32 PM
Well, you have to have the ideas. But I think that executive experience is also important.

PolWatch
03-22-2015, 01:36 PM
Nixon had experience as a senator & vp....Carter had experience as governor. go figure

Bo-4
03-22-2015, 01:39 PM
I was hoping for that.. a 5 star addition to the clown parade!

But i'd honestly trade with Canada: Ted for Justin Bieber -- permanently. I think as dangerous as The Biebs may be.. he's capable of doing less harm to our country.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f9/ec/91/f9ec9151b7f06fe2c4275a194ef4cfd7.jpg

TrueBlue
03-22-2015, 03:06 PM
Well now, we have a man wanting to run for president who:

* Was for a government shutdown despite his rhetoric.

Ted Cruz: ‘I Didn’t Shutdown The Government, Obama Did’
Author: Greg Miller
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/01/26/ted-cruz-didnt-shutdown/

* Is Against Abortion

* Is Against Gay Marriage

* Is Against the Environment

* Is For raising the retirement age on Social Security

In addition:

Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean Company During 2012 Campaign
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cruz-failed-to-disclose-ties-to-caribbean-company-during-2012-campaign

Obstructing government, from Huey Long to Ted Cruz
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/opinion/mills-cruz-obstruction/index.html

And there's MUCH More!

TrueBlue
03-22-2015, 03:22 PM
Cruz, of course, is a Tea Party Republican with an extreme far-right philosophy and agenda.

In addition:

Peter King: Ted Cruz 'is a fraud'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/20/peter-king-ted-cruz-is-a-fraud/?hpt=hp_t2

Brown: Cruz is 'absolutely unfit' for office
By Eric Bradner, CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/politics/ted-cruz-2016-election-global-warming-jerry-brown/index.html

TrueBlue
03-22-2015, 03:32 PM
And there's Much More!

Obstructing government, from Huey Long to Ted Cruz
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/opinion/mills-cruz-obstruction/index.html

Houston: We have a problem, his name is Ted Cruz
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/16/houston-we-have-a-problem-his-name-is-ted-cruz/?hpt=hp_bn3


(http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/16/houston-we-have-a-problem-his-name-is-ted-cruz/?hpt=hp_bn3)

Green Arrow
03-22-2015, 03:38 PM
TrueBlue, why do you care so much?

TrueBlue
03-22-2015, 03:39 PM
And there's Much More!

Ted Cruz Embarrasses Himself and His Party
http://progressiveerupts.blogspot.com/2013/09/ted-cruz-embarrasses-himself-and-his.html

Ted Cruz advises Trayvon Martin's mom to just chill and take one for Team Black http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/29/ted-cruz-advises-trayvon-martins-mom-to-take-one-for-team-black/

TrueBlue
03-22-2015, 03:42 PM
@TrueBlue (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1308), why do you care so much?
Because he's the very wrong guy for the job, Green. People may tend to support him without fully knowing or realizing what he's done and what he's all about. Therefore, they need to learn more about him.

Green Arrow
03-22-2015, 03:44 PM
Because he's the very wrong guy for the job, Green. People may tend to support him without fully knowing or realizing what he's done and what he's all about. Therefore, they need to learn more about him.

There are a lot of people that are potentially running that are wrong for the job. There have been people who ran, and people who won (like Obama and Bush Jr.), that are/were wrong for the job. That doesn't mean we need to waste keystrokes on them.

And let's just be honest here, the people that would support Ted Cruz will support him no matter what you or I say. Our comments won't erode his support base.

Mini Me
03-22-2015, 03:56 PM
I think the man is wasting his time. Ted Cruz is associated with leading the government shutdown last year....not a good thing. He will appeal greatly to the far left of the party but I suspect he will scare off the middle of the road repubs and independents. Buckley was right.

The far left of the Rethug party? I think you mean far right, as in to the right of Atilla the Hun!

And there is no middle there. Just muddle.

TrueBlue
03-22-2015, 03:58 PM
Of course there's always more but I think you get the picture.

Ted Cruz assails fellow Republicans senators for 'trickery' http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/20/ted-cruz-slams-gop-leadership-for-show-vote-on-debt-ceiling/comment-page-1/#comments

Ted Cruz Is Under Fire, And He Doesn't Care
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/ted-cruz-is-under-fire-and-he-doesnt-care/

It's time to get Texas off Cruz Control
http://texasoncruzcontrol.com/

Howey
03-22-2015, 04:01 PM
Ted Cruz to announce 2016 presidential bid on Monday
By Ashley Killough, CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/politics/ted-cruz-2016-announcement/index.html



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Thanks to CNN for this report. Well if that doesn't beat all. The First-Time Senator from Texas thinks he's ready to become president, of all things. Who told him that he could? He trails other Republicans with a very low SINGLE Digit number. And with his philosophy on matters important to most Americans we can write this one off at this early juncture. He obviously doesn't have a prayer or the support to get anywhere near the Republican nomination.

I can't wait for someone to ask him what three government agencies he'd like to eliminate. He'll probably implode worse than Rick Perry. Oh! Ask him what newspapers he's read lately! Ask him what it's like to be against immigration when his father bribed someone to come to America!

Howey
03-22-2015, 04:01 PM
This should be fun. He won't last long...

Mini Me
03-22-2015, 04:23 PM
I can't wait for someone to ask him what three government agencies he'd like to eliminate. He'll probably implode worse than Rick Perry. Oh! Ask him what newspapers he's read lately! Ask him what it's like to be against immigration when his father bribed someone to come to America!

Cruz wills say; eliminate the Senate, the House, and the Judiciary!

The corporate crooks can't operate when you have a functioning government.

Howey
03-22-2015, 05:32 PM
There are a lot of people that are potentially running that are wrong for the job. There have been people who ran, and people who won (like Obama and Bush Jr.), that are/were wrong for the job. That doesn't mean we need to waste keystrokes on them.

And let's just be honest here, the people that would support Ted Cruz will support him no matter what you or I say. Our comments won't erode his support base.

And lucky for us there's not enough of them to get him elected.

Green Arrow
03-22-2015, 05:33 PM
And lucky for us there's not enough of them to get him elected.

I think you're right on that.

Howey
03-22-2015, 05:35 PM
I think you're right on that.

Dude...Mo's never wrong!

TrueBlue
03-22-2015, 09:19 PM
What history says about Ted Cruz' chances
By Julian Zelizer

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/opinions/zelizer-cruz-history-barry-goldwater/index.html

"This coming election will be tough for Republicans. As all the experts have shown, the electoral college math does not favor the GOP. Some experts have predicted that Democrats have over an 80% chance of winning the Electoral College. According to the Washington Post, if one looks at the states where the margin was narrow (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/28/a-big-electoral-college-advantage-for-the-democrats-is-looming/%20https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/report/2015/01/06/101605/the-changing-face-of-americas-electorate/) in the 2012 election, five currently favor Democrats (Florida, Iowa, Minnesota, Ohio and Pennsylvania) while in others, like Colorado, Democrats have a very good chance of winning as a result of demographic trends, namely growing minority populations that favor their party's nominee. Barring any dramatic changes in the coming months, Democrats will also have a very strong and seasoned nominee in Hillary Clinton."



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Thanks to CNN for this most excellent report! So, things look pretty great for the Democrats in 2016. That is awesome news! In the end, America will vote for the party that is most aligned with them, that is, with those who are not rich and with the party that will continue to help them instead of CUT from them and that does not believe in giving tax cuts to the rich and that is the Democratic Party.

MisterVeritis
03-22-2015, 09:25 PM
I like Ted Cruz; but I am not sure I would want him to be the Republican nominee for president. That is because he would not be likely to draw many votes from the independents, who typically settle presidential elections.

I think the so-called "Buckley Rule" (named for the late William F. Buckley Jr.) comes into play here: One should support the rightmost candidate who has a serious chance of winning.

Perhaps Scott Walker is the ideal candidate, in this regard: He could probably count upon the votes of both Tea Party Republicans and Establishment Republicans, as well as a significant number of independents' votes...
Right. So we get McCain, the only one who can win. And we get Romney, the only one who can win.

No. Let's go for a Reagan. He cannot win, except for those two landslide victories. Nominate a Constitutional Conservative. Screw the RINOs. They never win. Why choose the socialist-lite when you can have a real Marxist?

Captain Obvious
03-22-2015, 09:25 PM
I fart in Cruz's general direction...

MisterVeritis
03-22-2015, 09:26 PM
I think the man is wasting his time. Ted Cruz is associated with leading the government shutdown last year....not a good thing. He will appeal greatly to the far left of the party but I suspect he will scare off the middle of the road repubs and independents. Buckley was right.
That is what idiots believe. After the government shutdown Republicans replaced socialists, I mean Democrats in droves.

Green Arrow
03-22-2015, 10:37 PM
What history says about Ted Cruz' chances
By Julian Zelizer

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/opinions/zelizer-cruz-history-barry-goldwater/index.html


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Thanks to CNN for this most excellent report! So, things look pretty great for the Democrats in 2016. That is awesome news! In the end, America will vote for the party that is most aligned with them, that is, with those who are not rich and with the party that will continue to help them instead of CUT from them and that does not believe in giving tax cuts to the rich and that is the Democratic Party.

But pretty much all the Democrats in government are rich.

Bob
03-22-2015, 10:51 PM
Ted Cruz to announce 2016 presidential bid on Monday
By Ashley Killough, CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/politics/ted-cruz-2016-announcement/index.html



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Thanks to CNN for this report. Well if that doesn't beat all. The First-Time Senator from Texas thinks he's ready to become president, of all things. Who told him that he could? He trails other Republicans with a very low SINGLE Digit number. And with his philosophy on matters important to most Americans we can write this one off at this early juncture. He obviously doesn't have a prayer or the support to get anywhere near the Republican nomination.

He has roughly the same experience Obama had to run for president. Now you claim you see how foolish it is. Go figure.

Bob
03-22-2015, 10:53 PM
That is what idiots believe. After the government shutdown Republicans replaced socialists, I mean Democrats in droves.

I really appreciate your gifts to the forum. Thanks a lot.

Bob
03-22-2015, 11:13 PM
I think the man is wasting his time. Ted Cruz is associated with leading the government shutdown last year....not a good thing. He will appeal greatly to the far left of the party but I suspect he will scare off the middle of the road repubs and independents. Buckley was right.

That would fly perhaps had he really shut down the government.

Raise your hands. Who buys the Democrats clap trap the Feds shut down the Government?

All in all, a tiny part got laid off. Rangers for instance. That hardly means the Government got shut down.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2014/12/03/the_government_shutdown_myth


Yeah, that shutdown last year, does anybody remember that shutdown? Do you remember when the government shut down last December, folks? I mean, we were all alive, and we were all paying attention. No, I'm serious. Do you remember when... (interruption) No, no. Do you remember when Congress closed? Do you remember when the DMV was? Do you remember when you couldn't get your welfare check? Do you remember when Social Security checks didn't show up? Do you remember when Medicare and Medicaid weren't working? Do you remember you couldn't get on the sleigh ride concession out at Yellowstone Park? That's my memory, all of that happened.
http://www.rushimg.com/cimages//media/images/gopblame3/1328479-1-eng-GB/GOPBlame.jpgThere wasn't any government shutdown. And they're calling it a partial shutdown now; they're calling it a partial shutdown then. Seventeen percent of government operations were shut down. This whole notion of a government shutdown is language that is being used once again to negatively impact the Republican Party and its fortunes. I ask anyone, do you remember when the government was shut down last December? Do you remember when whatever you need from government wasn't available? Do you remember a government office closed?

Common
03-23-2015, 12:30 AM
That is what idiots believe. After the government shutdown Republicans replaced socialists, I mean Democrats in droves.

Idiots cant figure out that winning state elections bought and paid for by millions of outside money from the koch bros and simon adelson and others, doesnttranslate into winning national elections.

If that was true how come ROMNEY won the last primary, the same romney that all the right wingers called a RINO and democrat and were all over the forums saying it was impossible for him to win the primary.

Ted Cruz has ZERO chance of being Potus

pjohns
03-23-2015, 12:51 AM
Same with Rand Paul and Marco Rubio its going to be fun reminding the right that they dont have enough experience.

Gee, on the Democratic side, just how much "experience" does Hillary have? (In sheer numerical terms, I believe it is eight years; but she left office in January 2009--which is a full eight years prior to January 2017, when she would take the oath of office as President of the United States, if she were elected.)

Green Arrow
03-23-2015, 12:55 AM
Gee, on the Democratic side, just how much "experience" does Hillary have? (In sheer numerical terms, I believe it is eight years; but she left office in January 2009--which is a full eight years prior to January 2017, when she would take the oath of office as President of the United States, if she were elected.)

She's technically already been President.

Bob
03-23-2015, 12:56 AM
Idiots cant figure out that winning state elections bought and paid for by millions of outside money from the koch bros and simon adelson and others, doesnttranslate into winning national elections.

If that was true how come ROMNEY won the last primary, the same romney that all the right wingers called a RINO and democrat and were all over the forums saying it was impossible for him to win the primary.

Ted Cruz has ZERO chance of being Potus

I happen to agree only on the Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio plus Rand Paul part.

We are not stupid enough to elect the next president from the pool of inexperienced Senators. You did it and look at the mess that caused.

Green Arrow
03-23-2015, 01:16 AM
I happen to agree only on the Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio plus Rand Paul part.

We are not stupid enough to elect the next president from the pool of inexperienced Senators. You did it and look at the mess that caused.

Americans will vote for whoever Americans want, and Americans have chosen their Presidents from a variety of careers, including Senators.

Cigar
03-23-2015, 07:12 AM
http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/TX-Senator-Ted-Cruz-Green-Eggs-and-Ham.jpg

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:41 AM
Idiots cant figure out that winning state elections bought and paid for by millions of outside money from the koch bros and simon adelson and others, doesnttranslate into winning national elections.

If that was true how come ROMNEY won the last primary, the same romney that all the right wingers called a RINO and democrat and were all over the forums saying it was impossible for him to win the primary.

Ted Cruz has ZERO chance of being Potus
Cool. "Shutting" down the government helps him. It does not hurt him. The government has become the enemy of the productive people. Democrats are the party of massive government. Democrats are the enemies of productive people. Establishment Republicans are democrat-lite. They are also the enemies of productive people.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:44 AM
Well now, we have a man wanting to run for president who:

* Was for a government shutdown despite his rhetoric.

Ted Cruz: ‘I Didn’t Shutdown The Government, Obama Did’
Author: Greg Miller
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/01/26/ted-cruz-didnt-shutdown/

* Is Against Abortion

* Is Against Gay Marriage

* Is Against the Environment

* Is For raising the retirement age on Social Security

In addition:

Cruz Failed To Disclose Ties To Caribbean Company During 2012 Campaign
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cruz-failed-to-disclose-ties-to-caribbean-company-during-2012-campaign

Obstructing government, from Huey Long to Ted Cruz
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/opinion/mills-cruz-obstruction/index.html

And there's MUCH More!

Given the radical Left's reaction I shall have to look more closely at Ted Cruz. He may be the right guy.

Reason10
03-23-2015, 07:45 AM
Ted Cruz to announce 2016 presidential bid on Monday
By Ashley Killough, CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/politics/ted-cruz-2016-announcement/index.html



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Thanks to CNN for this report. Well if that doesn't beat all. The First-Time Senator from Texas thinks he's ready to become president, of all things. Who told him that he could? He trails other Republicans with a very low SINGLE Digit number. And with his philosophy on matters important to most Americans we can write this one off at this early juncture. He obviously doesn't have a prayer or the support to get anywhere near the Republican nomination.

An INCOMPETENT first time Senator wound up serving two terms as president. Of course, it took voter fraud and two very liberal Republican candidates to pull it off.

Cruz would have a good chance if it weren't for Governor Walker.
Cruz was a better Senator than the KENYAN VILLAGE IDIOT.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:45 AM
Cruz, of course, is a Tea Party Republican with an extreme far-right philosophy and agenda.

In addition:

Peter King: Ted Cruz 'is a fraud'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/20/peter-king-ted-cruz-is-a-fraud/?hpt=hp_t2

Brown: Cruz is 'absolutely unfit' for office
By Eric Bradner, CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/politics/ted-cruz-2016-election-global-warming-jerry-brown/index.html

The Constitutional conservatism really bothers you Marxists doesn't it?

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:47 AM
I can't wait for someone to ask him what three government agencies he'd like to eliminate. He'll probably implode worse than Rick Perry. Oh! Ask him what newspapers he's read lately! Ask him what it's like to be against immigration when his father bribed someone to come to America!
IRS, EPA plus 400 more. Let's restore our Constitutional Republic.

Cigar
03-23-2015, 07:51 AM
The Constitutional conservatism really bothers you Marxists doesn't it?

But does he Love America? :grin:

Cigar
03-23-2015, 07:55 AM
I wonder if The Donald is going to challenge his Citizenship :laugh:

exotix
03-23-2015, 08:06 AM
Ok, Cruz about to speak at Liberty University ... Liberty University you say ?

Yeah ... where else can you do it but at the Jerry Falwell U ... LOL


http://i57.tinypic.com/23k68uu.jpg

exotix
03-23-2015, 08:08 AM
The Constitutional conservatism really bothers you Marxists doesn't it?
Really dude ?

http://i59.tinypic.com/2d9xjzo.jpg

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 08:19 AM
Yeah, I thought Cruz was Canadian.

I don't care if I'm mistaken, he's not a legitimate candidate for POTUS, not in a bazillion fucking years.

He's a fucking circus act, for entertainment value only.

Out of all the GOP hopefuls, Walker is the only guy who I'd consider supporting. The rest of them are monkeys. I have a hunch I'll be voting third party again.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 08:22 AM
Rand Paul was a guy who I could have supported also but he's realizing that he's got to play the political game to be successful, so he is. Moving toward establishment, nah. Plus his leadership skills are nil. Probably would be a good candidate considering the rest of the monkeys in the crowd but winner by default is not how I view the presidency.

Common
03-23-2015, 08:26 AM
Republicans of all flavors think they should be potus. Far right candidates, libertarian, Traditional and theres a big line vying for the job.

Then theres hillary any one else find that peculiar

exotix
03-23-2015, 08:31 AM
Republicans of all flavors think they should be potus. Far right candidates, libertarian, Traditional and theres a big line vying for the job.

Then theres hillary any one else find that peculiar
The word on Hillary is that she needs some Dem candidates to *have a conversation with* simply to bolster her campaign.

Bo-4
03-23-2015, 08:31 AM
Not to worry @TrueBlue (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1308) The only time TeaTed will ever see the inside of WH is if he takes a public tour or Hillary is kind enough to invite him to a luncheon. ;-)

Bo-4
03-23-2015, 08:34 AM
Rand Paul was a guy who I could have supported also but he's realizing that he's got to play the political game to be successful, so he is. Moving toward establishment, nah. Plus his leadership skills are nil. Probably would be a good candidate considering the rest of the monkeys in the crowd but winner by default is not how I view the presidency.

Name your ideal candidate Captain Obvious (other than yourself of course ;-)

exotix
03-23-2015, 08:36 AM
Name your ideal candidate @Captain Obvious (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=3) (other than yourself of course ;-)
I don't know why Obvious doesn't like Cruz ... Canada is closer to Pennsylvania than Walker or Paulie ... *snicker*

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 08:39 AM
Name your ideal candidate @Captain Obvious (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=3) (other than yourself of course ;-)

I wouldn't vote for me to be honest, I'm an asshole. I'd be like "fuck yinz, I'm going fishing". Plus I wouldn't last a day in politics, I'd wind up going whack on someone. Fuck that, I get frustrated having to play mind games to get shit done, there is nothing constructive about the process, it sucks from top to bottom.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 08:39 AM
I don't know why Obvious doesn't like Cruz ... Canada is closer to Pennsylvania than Walker or Paulie ... *snicker*

I see where your political compass is now.

Howey
03-23-2015, 08:43 AM
I wouldn't vote for me to be honest, I'm an $#@!. I'd be like "$#@! yinz, I'm going fishing". Plus I wouldn't last a day in politics, I'd wind up going whack on someone. $#@! that, I get frustrated having to play mind games to get $#@! done, there is nothing constructive about the process, it sucks from top to bottom.

Please vote Howey/Alyosha '16! She'll be back once we're elected!

del
03-23-2015, 08:47 AM
Ted Cruz is now a candidate for the presidency of the United States. Period. So now, we can ask the question honestly:

Is this guy freaking kidding?


Ted Cruz is an extremist fanatic. He represents politics and a vision of government that was out of date in 1860. He is connected, rhetorically for the most part, to the darkest manifestations of the American political Id. And he combines that with a kind of unendurable self-righteousness that has alienated even the other extremist fanatics in the conservative leadership elite. From an early age, Cruz has been taught that he is the hidden golden child of a fundamentalist America redemption. (The source of this messianic self-regard is his father, preacher Rafael Cruz, who is not an extremist. He's simply a lunatic.)

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a33831/ted-cruz-will-announce-2016-presidential-candidacy/

Ransom
03-23-2015, 09:04 AM
He is connected, rhetorically for the most part, to the darkest manifestations of the American political Id.

Rhetorically? And yet he's the cause of all these hysterics.

Any 'rhetoric' against the goals and aims of liberals...I mean anything at all. Anyone. You can be a Sec of Defense, you can be a world leader at either end of political spectrums such as a Putin and a Netanyahu....and you're hated by this President and his supporters. Anyone in US politics must be labeled messianic, any voice against this party of toleration...must be destroyed.

Children will be children, speaking of, good morning, del.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 09:06 AM
He is connected, rhetorically for the most part, to the darkest manifestations of the American political Id.

Rhetorically? And yet he's the cause of all these hysterics.

Any 'rhetoric' against the goals and aims of liberals...I mean anything at all. Anyone. You can be a Sec of Defense, you can be a world leader at either end of political spectrums such as a Putin and a Netanyahu....and you're hated by this President and his supporters. Anyone in US politics must be labeled messianic, any voice against this party of toleration...must be destroyed.

Children will be children, speaking of, good morning, del.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCc-RWIp7XU

del
03-23-2015, 09:06 AM
He is connected, rhetorically for the most part, to the darkest manifestations of the American political Id.

Rhetorically? And yet he's the cause of all these hysterics.

Any 'rhetoric' against the goals and aims of liberals...I mean anything at all. Anyone. You can be a Sec of Defense, you can be a world leader at either end of political spectrums such as a Putin and a Netanyahu....and you're hated by this President and his supporters. Anyone in US politics must be labeled messianic, any voice against this party of toleration...must be destroyed.

Children will be children, speaking of, good morning, del.

if you keep dawdling you'll miss your bus

scoot, little man

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:14 AM
Lurch ?

LOL

Common Sense
03-23-2015, 09:14 AM
Cool, a Canadian President.

Ransom
03-23-2015, 09:16 AM
if you keep dawdling you'll miss your bus

scoot, little man

"Dawdling"....is that "rhetoric", del? Your article there using such hysterics that ewe liberals just graze on. "messianic", "lunatic", "extremist fanatics", "hidden golden child of a fundamentalist America redemption", "darkest manifestations".....seemingly being critical of Cruz for mere 'rhetoric'.....by using their own "hysterical rhetoric" and look what forum member of ours bring that to the table.

del.

I can place pegs in their proper slot.

Ransom
03-23-2015, 09:18 AM
Cool, a Canadian President.
A Kenyan is cooler, but ok.

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:22 AM
Ok here we go ... thank you Rev. Falwell ... LOL


His dad was an abusive drunk who grew up in Cuba and fought alongside Castro to fight against Batista ? ... LOL



http://i58.tinypic.com/2ue4b49.jpg

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:25 AM
Daddy fled to Canada and abandoned his family ?

Peter1469
03-23-2015, 09:28 AM
Is the left going to now wonder what the Constitution means with the words natural born citizen? It meant citizen the last decade or so.

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:28 AM
Okay ... daddy found God and the Cruz family became good Christians ?

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:30 AM
Is the left going to now wonder what the Constitution means with the words natural born citizen? I meant citizen the last decade or so.
Don't forget McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone or where ever ... I don't think the founding fathers knew where that was when they drafted *natural born citizen*

Cigar
03-23-2015, 09:30 AM
Is the left going to now wonder what the Constitution means with the words natural born citizen? It meant citizen the last decade or so.

Ok .. and

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:31 AM
Okay ... you just paid-off Cruzs' student loans since his being Senator ... LOL

Peter1469
03-23-2015, 09:35 AM
Don't forget McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone or where ever ... I don't think the founding fathers knew where that was when they drafted *natural born citizen*

They used citizen throughout the constitution, except twice- when referring to the Pres- and then it used natural born citizen. If one wishes to think that was an oddity of history, rather than deliberate, well, I get a chuckle over that.

Public school.

The law is clear on the military brat issue, btw.

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:36 AM
I didn't know Liberty U went to court to repeal Obamacare .. LOL

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:39 AM
Repeal Obamacare, abolish IRS ... close the borders but embrace those who come here for the American Dream ?

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:40 AM
Guns & Bibles good Christians ?

LOL

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 09:41 AM
Ok here we go ... thank you Rev. Falwell ... LOL


His dad was an abusive drunk who grew up in Cuba and fought alongside Castro to fight against Batista ? ... LOL



http://i58.tinypic.com/2ue4b49.jpg

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/60540163.jpg

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 09:42 AM
Guns & Bibles good Christians ?

LOL

You know, running play-by-play commentary is kind of useless since most of us aren't watching the broadcast.

Sounds like he's targeting the fringe right, no surprises there.

Cigar
03-23-2015, 09:42 AM
:icon_thumright: Oh God please let it be

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:44 AM
You know, running play-by-play commentary is kind of useless since most of us aren't watching the broadcast.

Sounds like he's targeting the fringe right, no surprises there.
I'm waiting for the punch-line .... sorry, I'm getting caught-up in all this raging Messiah stuff .. LOL

nic34
03-23-2015, 09:44 AM
Ted Cruz to announce 2016 presidential bid on Monday
By Ashley Killough, CNN

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/22/politics/ted-cruz-2016-announcement/index.html



=====================================
Thanks to CNN for this report. Well if that doesn't beat all. The First-Time Senator from Texas thinks he's ready to become president, of all things. Who told him that he could? He trails other Republicans with a very low SINGLE Digit number. And with his philosophy on matters important to most Americans we can write this one off at this early juncture. He obviously doesn't have a prayer or the support to get anywhere near the Republican nomination.

Hurry, call Orly Taitz!

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:45 AM
Oh no ... don't bring-up Hitler ....

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:46 AM
Ok, God & Reagan ... LOL

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:47 AM
The Grassroots Army of Liberty ?

nic34
03-23-2015, 09:47 AM
"Dawdling"....is that "rhetoric", del? Your article there using such hysterics that ewe liberals just graze on. "messianic", "lunatic", "extremist fanatics", "hidden golden child of a fundamentalist America redemption", "darkest manifestations".....seemingly being critical of Cruz for mere 'rhetoric'.....by using their own "hysterical rhetoric" and look what forum member of ours bring that to the table.

del.

I can place pegs in their proper slot.

If don't think this guy is fringe, then you must think he can win.

We got you pegged too. :laugh:

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:49 AM
Ok it's official ... Cruz is the first to announce a Presidential Candidacy for 2016 .... YAYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 09:49 AM
If don't think this guy is fringe, then you must think he can win.

We got you pegged too. :laugh:

This is why conservatives are abandoning the GOP, the GOP for some reason can't stop kissing the religious right's ass.

Mainstream conservatives don't give a shit about social conservatism for the most part, it's the economy, stupid.

Common Sense
03-23-2015, 09:49 AM
Not a snowballs chance in hell....

del
03-23-2015, 09:50 AM
"Dawdling"....is that "rhetoric", del? Your article there using such hysterics that ewe liberals just graze on. "messianic", "lunatic", "extremist fanatics", "hidden golden child of a fundamentalist America redemption", "darkest manifestations".....seemingly being critical of Cruz for mere 'rhetoric'.....by using their own "hysterical rhetoric" and look what forum member of ours bring that to the table.

del.

I can place pegs in their proper slot.

and we're all very proud of your new found hand-eye coordination skills

soon, you'll be writing in cursive

bravo, tiny dancer

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 09:51 AM
Ok it's official ... Cruz is the first to announce a Presidential Candidacy for 2016 .... YAYYYYYYYYYY !!!!!!!!!!

I have no doubt the hack left smear machine just kicked into overdrive this very second.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 09:52 AM
and we're all very proud of your new found hand-eye coordination skills

soon, you'll be writing in cursive

bravo, tiny dancer

But not until after his testicles descend.

Peter1469
03-23-2015, 09:52 AM
You know, running play-by-play commentary is kind of useless since most of us aren't watching the broadcast.

Sounds like he's targeting the fringe right, no surprises there.

I think catering to the religious right is not going to win a presidential election. He will have a hard time convincing people that he wants less government.

exotix
03-23-2015, 09:53 AM
I have no doubt the hack left smear machine just kicked into overdrive this very second.
C'mon now ... give some credit to Dem campaign strategy ... simply remain quiet and let Cruz and the other nutcases talk ... http://i61.tinypic.com/98f4pc.gif

del
03-23-2015, 09:54 AM
Ok, God & Reagan ... LOL

there's a difference?

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 09:54 AM
I think catering to the religious right is not going to win a presidential election. He will have a hard time convincing people that he wasn't less government.

It's a failed strategy over and over, I just don't see why the GOP still invests in it.

exotix
03-23-2015, 10:04 AM
This is why conservatives are abandoning the GOP, the GOP for some reason can't stop kissing the religious right's ass.

Mainstream conservatives don't give a $#@! about social conservatism for the most part, it's the economy, stupid.
What are you talking about .. Cruz has been a Bush neocon since 2000 and even influenced the Florida recount that put Bush in office ...

Ransom
03-23-2015, 10:15 AM
and we're all very proud of your new found hand-eye coordination skills

soon, you'll be writing in cursive

bravo, tiny dancer

Maybe if I pass cursive.......I can start using rhetoric?

Don't hate the player, del, hate the game you're currently getting your a$$ trounced in.

Ransom
03-23-2015, 10:20 AM
If don't think this guy is fringe, then you must think he can win.

We got you pegged too. :laugh:

I don't think he can win. And he's not my candidate, if there is current Senator I'd vote for it's Lindsay Graham(if he runs.)

I'm on record backing a governor candidate, I like Walker's platform, I've always been a John Kasich supporter and out of Ohio, I think he's a viable candidate. I also like much of the platforms of Rand Paul, I support much of the business platforms only of a Donald Trump and even though I'm on record numerous times....it's clear you don't have your own Leftist herd pegged much less your teacher who tolerates ewe, Ransom.

I'm more an establishment Republican rather than a Tea Party candidate, although I do believe the Tea Party movement is necessary and helps our Party.

Get it right, nic, you aren't quite as good as I am at this....tread lightly.

Ransom
03-23-2015, 10:23 AM
there's a difference?

Difference where you Leftists are concerned is God doesn't think he's Obama.

exotix
03-23-2015, 10:31 AM
Difference where you Leftists are concerned is God doesn't think he's Obama.
You must've missed Cruz comparing and elevating himself to Obama ...

Really ?

An adolescent who grew-up abused by an alcoholic communist father who eventually abandoned 'em ?

Common
03-23-2015, 10:39 AM
I don't think he can win. And he's not my candidate, if there is current Senator I'd vote for it's Lindsay Graham(if he runs.)

I'm on record backing a governor candidate, I like Walker's platform, I've always been a John Kasich supporter and out of Ohio, I think he's a viable candidate. I also like much of the platforms of Rand Paul, I support much of the business platforms only of a Donald Trump and even though I'm on record numerous times....it's clear you don't have your own Leftist herd pegged much less your teacher who tolerates ewe, Ransom.

I'm more an establishment Republican rather than a Tea Party candidate, although I do believe the Tea Party movement is necessary and helps our Party.

Get it right, nic, you aren't quite as good as I am at this....tread lightly.

You cant be an establishment republican liking Scott Walker and the teaparty hurts your party. The republicans are riding high now Ransom its about time they were behind for 25-30 yrs. If you think this is going to continue indefinitely youre in for a rude awakening. As soon as Obama is gone it will start to reverse.

Ive been in this since 21 47 yrs, and I was a republican up until 2012. The right attacking the working class and public workers assured ill never be a registered republican again.

The koch bros spend millions to make the rest of the country a worker suppressed and oppressed south. Where workers work for less than half, accept no benefits and pensions and vote for clowns that want to cut their social security and medicare. One day they will wake up and its not going to be too long down the road.

PolWatch
03-23-2015, 10:45 AM
I love irony. For 8 years we have heard screams about Obama not being born of 100% American parents, questioning his birth...yadda, yadda, yadda. We heard about how he only had 1 term as senator and was too inexperienced to be president. Now? who is the first repub out of the chute? How will the repub defend this fella who shares all the same issues with the one they have been attacking?

Things will really get interesting for those who insist that Obama was elected only because he was black if the brain surgeon becomes a candidate. We all know he would run based on his political experience. Instead of 'Hope & Change', Carson could run on a motto of 'Cut & Sutures'?

How about the questions about Obama being a Muslim because of his father? Where does that leave Jindal (born a Hindu folks).

Chickens always come home to roost.... love it, love it, love it.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 10:50 AM
I love irony. For 8 years we have heard screams about Obama not being born of 100% American parents, questioning his birth...yadda, yadda, yadda. We heard about how he only had 1 term as senator and was too inexperienced to be president. Now? who is the first repub out of the chute? How will the repub defend this fella who shares all the same issues with the one they have been attacking?

Things will really get interesting for those who insist that Obama was elected only because he was black if the brain surgeon becomes a candidate. We all know he would run based on his political experience. Instead of 'Hope & Change', Carson could run on a motto of 'Cut & Sutures'?

How about the questions about Obama being a Muslim because of his father? Where does that leave Jindal (born a Hindu folks).

Chickens always come home to roost.... love it, love it, love it.

Um, well.... (eherm), brrbtt...

You're not supposed to notice that.

:biglaugh:

exotix
03-23-2015, 10:54 AM
From what I can gather from Cruz ... God is the *Hope & Change* ... he's qualified because he's been *redeemed* since his abusive childhood to his time as a Bushie ...

... man o man .

Ransom
03-23-2015, 10:55 AM
You cant be an establishment republican liking Scott Walker and the teaparty hurts your party. The republicans are riding high now Ransom its about time they were behind for 25-30 yrs. If you think this is going to continue indefinitely youre in for a rude awakening. As soon as Obama is gone it will start to reverse.

I don't believe the Tea Party hurts my Party, in fact, I watched just the opposite happen. My Party....flat out on it's back following 2008 elections. It didn't look like we could even compete in the next election much less win. And in 2010, the Republican Party won an historic and sweeping election. Both local and national elections went GOP. And we've the Tea Party to thank, they were the only voices at the time that would stand up to Obama. Weren't afraid of the rhetoric they'd receive, they were so influential, the IRS had to start targeting this grass roots group to slow it down. Why is reality the exact 180 of your opinion claiming the Tea Party is bad for the Party? Rand Paul wins, Walker won....handily..taking on unions, Kasich elected as well. I think the Tea Party is genuine and helps our cause.


Ive been in this since 21 47 yrs, and I was a republican up until 2012. The right attacking the working class and public workers assured ill never be a registered republican again.

A quitter huh? Go figure.


The koch bros spend millions to make the rest of the country a worker suppressed and oppressed south. Where workers work for less than half, accept no benefits and pensions and vote for clowns that want to cut their social security and medicare. One day they will wake up and its not going to be too long down the road.

What I've never heard from you Common is one peep about the Left's large $ contributors, I think you're one way and thus.....sorry.....fake. Disingenuous opinion that falls on deaf ears as far as I'm concerned, if you gave even an iota of the same outrage towards the Left's money machines......I'd maybe believe that one. As I've said, I think you're a true liberal and aren't afraid to vice your opinion an where I can respect that, I cannot tolerate fake outrage concerning money in politics. You'll turn around and vote for a Hillary just that quick proving the money doesn't bother you at all.....in fact...I don't believe you were ever a Republican. Sorry, just don't believe it.

Ransom
03-23-2015, 10:59 AM
I love irony. For 8 years we have heard screams about Obama not being born of 100% American parents, questioning his birth...yadda, yadda, yadda. We heard about how he only had 1 term as senator and was too inexperienced to be president. Now? who is the first repub out of the chute? How will the repub defend this fella who shares all the same issues with the one they have been attacking?

Things will really get interesting for those who insist that Obama was elected only because he was black if the brain surgeon becomes a candidate. We all know he would run based on his political experience. Instead of 'Hope & Change', Carson could run on a motto of 'Cut & Sutures'?

How about the questions about Obama being a Muslim because of his father? Where does that leave Jindal (born a Hindu folks).

Chickens always come home to roost.... love it, love it, love it.
He has but 4% of Republican backing, his candidacy attractive to the more social issue oriented Republicans......who opposed Obama for social rather than experience reasons.

Let's try to sound like we know what we're talking about before just :poopfan: tactics devolve the entire forum, thanks. Especially you, PolWatch, you've already been asked to tighten up.

exotix
03-23-2015, 11:01 AM
Just In

Attendance for this event was required for Liberty U students ... LOL

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 11:08 AM
Just In

Attendance for this event was required for Liberty U students ... LOL

What is Liberty U - like one of those phony "Heritage" diploma mills?

texan
03-23-2015, 11:10 AM
Just In

Attendance for this event was required for Liberty U students ... LOL


The joke to LOL at is in your mirror.........Take a good look.

exotix
03-23-2015, 11:11 AM
What is Liberty U - like one of those phony "Heritage" diploma mills?
... not wise to blasphemy Jerry Falwell U ... LOL



Liberty University


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_University

The university was founded as Lynchburg Baptist College in 1971 by Jerry Falwell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell), who was also Senior Pastor of Thomas Road Baptist Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Road_Baptist_Church).

The name was changed to Liberty Baptist College in 1976 before settling on its current name, Liberty University, in 1984, when it obtained university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University) status.

Liberty University describes itself as a Christian academic community.

Its stated mission and aims emphasize both the intellectual and spiritual development of the institution's students.

Students are held to The Liberty Way, a code of behavioral conduct.


Liberty University’s Guide to Female Modesty

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/liberty-university-s-guide-female-modesty


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/sites/default/files/Liberty-Female-dress-code.jpg

Common
03-23-2015, 11:11 AM
I don't believe the Tea Party hurts my Party, in fact, I watched just the opposite happen. My Party....flat out on it's back following 2008 elections. It didn't look like we could even compete in the next election much less win. And in 2010, the Republican Party won an historic and sweeping election. Both local and national elections went GOP. And we've the Tea Party to thank, they were the only voices at the time that would stand up to Obama. Weren't afraid of the rhetoric they'd receive, they were so influential, the IRS had to start targeting this grass roots group to slow it down. Why is reality the exact 180 of your opinion claiming the Tea Party is bad for the Party? Rand Paul wins, Walker won....handily..taking on unions, Kasich elected as well. I think the Tea Party is genuine and helps our cause.



A quitter huh? Go figure.



What I've never heard from you Common is one peep about the Left's large $ contributors, I think you're one way and thus.....sorry.....fake. Disingenuous opinion that falls on deaf ears as far as I'm concerned, if you gave even an iota of the same outrage towards the Left's money machines......I'd maybe believe that one. As I've said, I think you're a true liberal and aren't afraid to vice your opinion an where I can respect that, I cannot tolerate fake outrage concerning money in politics. You'll turn around and vote for a Hillary just that quick proving the money doesn't bother you at all.....in fact...I don't believe you were ever a Republican. Sorry, just don't believe it.

The teaparty is done, the lost most of the elections this last cycle to tradional GOP, they lost their coup on Boehner, the GOP leadership goes against them the lionshare of the time.

Ransom pay attention, the GOP - Democrat pendulum swings back and forth. Sometimes quite swiftly. Things can change in one cycle.
Most of the GOP gains in the south and thats where most of the gains have been has much to do with obama being black and his obamacare. Soon both of those will be non issues. Obama will be gone and the Scotus will soon vote either way whether obama care stays or goes. That wont be an issue.

Most social issues of national attention will be solved, gay marriage etc.
Republicans wont continue to win trying to cut everything for the middleclass and poor and giving it to the rich. Thats just not going to last. Its blurred with the issues ive mentioned above.

Ransom lieing about what I say doesnt make you or the rest of the right wingers on here look good. Ive said many times over that money from the left should be abolished like the money from the right.

Neither is good for america but while its here, you have to determine which is worse for what you believe. Anything that goes to screw the working class IM DEAD AGAINST, and I dont give a fuck who likes that or not.
Its not about me, Im fairly wealthy if I didnt have a dime income till the day I took my last breath my kids would still be all ok. THIS ISNT ABOUT ME. Its about what I truly believe is right and koch bro are against anything working man anything poor, their agenda includes the entire countries workers being underpaid like the south. They dont pour millions into benefitting the working class and poor do they ?

Soros has and so has unions ? so who do you expect me to prefer ??
I dont need you to tell me who you prefer. As long as the right wing scotus says they on the left and right can pour hundreds of millions into politics, I have no choice but to pick a side.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 11:15 AM
... not wise to blasphemy Jerry Falwell U ... LOL



Liberty University


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_University

The university was founded as Lynchburg Baptist College in 1971 by Jerry Falwell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell), who was also Senior Pastor of Thomas Road Baptist Church (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Road_Baptist_Church).

The name was changed to Liberty Baptist College in 1976 before settling on its current name, Liberty University, in 1984, when it obtained university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University) status.

Liberty University describes itself as a Christian academic community.

Its stated mission and aims emphasize both the intellectual and spiritual development of the institution's students.

Students are held to The Liberty Way, a code of behavioral conduct.


Liberty University’s Guide to Female Modesty

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/liberty-university-s-guide-female-modesty


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/sites/default/files/Liberty-Female-dress-code.jpg

Yeah, kooks.

Common
03-23-2015, 11:22 AM
No one has to bash cruz he has no chance to win, if youre going to bash, bash who you believe will be the winner.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 11:24 AM
No one has to bash cruz he has no chance to win, if youre going to bash, bash who you believe will be the winner.

Exactly.

If Cruz gets more than 5% of the nomination voting then I'm moving to Canada.

Call it a trade.

nic34
03-23-2015, 11:26 AM
No one has to bash cruz he has no chance to win, if youre going to bash, bash who you believe will be the winner.

But that would be "bush bashing" which is taboo.....:laugh:

Common
03-23-2015, 11:32 AM
But that would be "bush bashing" which is taboo.....:laugh:

The right whining incessantly doesnt make anything taboo, it just upsets them so it gives them diareah

Bush, Walker, whoever looks like they may win, are open season

PolWatch
03-23-2015, 11:37 AM
But that would be "bush bashing" which is taboo.....:laugh:

I just don't see any of the other possible candidates beating Jeb for the job.

Peter1469
03-23-2015, 12:20 PM
He has but 4% of Republican backing, his candidacy attractive to the more social issue oriented Republicans......who opposed Obama for social rather than experience reasons.

Let's try to sound like we know what we're talking about before just :poopfan: tactics devolve the entire forum, thanks. Especially you, PolWatch, you've already been asked to tighten up.


Notice: Ransom has been thread banned for continuing an old pattern of posting in bad faith.

Cigar
03-23-2015, 12:24 PM
Just In

Attendance for this event was required for Liberty U students ... LOL

Kinda Like Free Cell Phones :laugh:

Cigar
03-23-2015, 12:36 PM
Ted Cruz Doubles Down On Misunderstanding The Internet & Net Neutrality (https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20141115/07454429157/ted-cruz-doubles-down-misunderstanding-internet-net-neutrality-as-republican-engineers-call-him-out-ignorance.shtml)

Ted Cruz hints at government shutdown to stymie Obama on immigration (http://theweek.com/speedreads/446634/ted-cruz-hints-government-shutdown-stymie-obama-immigration)

Ted Cruz, who wants a federal ban on same-sex marriage, to launch presidential bid (http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2015/03/ted-cruz-who-wants-a-federal-ban-on-same-sex-marriage-to-launch-presidential-bid/)

Ted Cruz brags to Christian students: I’ve beaten atheists before, and I can do it again (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/ted-cruz-brags-to-christian-students-ive-beaten-atheists-before-and-i-can-do-it-again/)

Ted Cruz's climate denial makes him "absolutely unfit" to be president (http://www.salon.com/2015/03/23/calif_governor_ted_cruzs_climate_denial_makes_him_ absolutely_unfit_to_be_president)

Ted Cruz's phony Obamacare filibuster was really about . . . Ted Cruz (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ted-cruzs-phony-obamacare-filibuster-was-really-about--ted-cruz/2013/09/25/b8f273a8-2632-11e3-b3e9-d97fb087acd6_story.html)

GOP's Cruel Budget Proposals Threaten to Take Us Back to the 19th Century (http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/gops-cruel-budget-proposals-threaten-take-us-back-19th-century)

Ted Cruz: I'd sign Iran letter 'in large print' so the Ayatollah wouldn't need his glasses (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/17/ted-cruz-id-sign-iran-letter-large-print-so-ayatol/)

Ted Cruz's Father Suggested His Son Is 'Anointed' to Bring About 'End Time Transfer of Wealth' (http://www.alternet.org/speakeasy/brucewilson/ted-cruzs-father-suggested-his-son-anointed-bring-about-end-time-transfer)

Watch: Sen. Ted Cruz Reads Green Eggs and Ham Into Congressional Record (http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-sen-ted-cruz-reads-green-eggs-and-ham-into-congressional-record/)

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/imgs/2015/150323-official-transcript-of-ted-cruz-presidential-announcement.jpg

tedcruz.com Go there, right effin' now!The dork didn't bother securing his own domain name! :biglaugh:

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 12:45 PM
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/60546388.jpg

Cigar
03-23-2015, 12:47 PM
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/ending-soon.jpeg

midcan5
03-23-2015, 12:49 PM
When all a person has ever done in their work life is work in government and then the self same person tells you government is the problem you know you are in Lalaland.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2014/06/30/140630fa_fact_toobin

Chris
03-23-2015, 12:50 PM
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/ending-soon.jpeg



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUIQgEVDM4

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 12:50 PM
http://www.ecigarettedirect.co.uk/ashtray-blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/ending-soon.jpeg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/ed/7a/a2/ed7aa2c342bf73b7dd6e4b8e150b5507.jpg

exotix
03-23-2015, 12:50 PM
Kinda Like Free Cell Phones :laugh:
Apparently Cell Phones on Campus are against the rules of the University in some regard ... but Cruz went ahead and told them to break the rules and send him there phone numbers for money ...

LOL

texan
03-23-2015, 12:53 PM
We get it you don't like Ted Cruz. :deadhorse:

Cigar
03-23-2015, 01:04 PM
We get it you don't like Ted Cruz. :deadhorse:

Wrong again, I Love Ted Cruz ... :laugh:

Bob
03-23-2015, 01:11 PM
Americans will vote for whoever Americans want, and Americans have chosen their Presidents from a variety of careers, including Senators.

Gasp

no shit

Bo-4
03-23-2015, 01:35 PM
Wrong again, I Love Ted Cruz ... :laugh:

See, this is the funny thing about our conservative friends. They assume when we bash idiots like Cruz that somehow we hate them or better yet - we FEAR them.

They couldn't be more mistaken. I love TeaTed also.. he's hours of entertainment, makes the R party look terrible, and will never see the Oval Office!

http://beforeitsnews.com/mediadrop/uploads/2013/38/3430524ae73fe290c8e490b718595c32f9495612.jpg

Common
03-23-2015, 01:49 PM
Gasp

no shit


:spam4::spam4::spam4::spam4::spam4:

exotix
03-23-2015, 02:19 PM
*update*

Word Salad from Event


http://i57.tinypic.com/a30bhc.jpg

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 02:21 PM
*update*

Word Salad from Event


http://i57.tinypic.com/a30bhc.jpg

I see he went with the economy marketing strategy firm.

:biglaugh:

texan
03-23-2015, 02:23 PM
Ted Cruz Doubles Down On Misunderstanding The Internet & Net Neutrality (https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20141115/07454429157/ted-cruz-doubles-down-misunderstanding-internet-net-neutrality-as-republican-engineers-call-him-out-ignorance.shtml)

So stupid and a complete reach by democrats, I didn't follow the story but just read it and the associated tweets. He was making a point that makes sense in a parity way.........WTH? Do you people not have anything else to do? This is not news nor "something we need to know about." Quite a reach in fact.


Stopped you list after this one, so stupid.

Bob
03-23-2015, 02:27 PM
Idiots cant figure out that winning state elections bought and paid for by millions of outside money from the koch bros and simon adelson and others, doesnttranslate into winning national elections.

If that was true how come ROMNEY won the last primary, the same romney that all the right wingers called a RINO and democrat and were all over the forums saying it was impossible for him to win the primary.

Ted Cruz has ZERO chance of being Potus

I get a charge out of your unproven and unfounded claims.

As to Cruz, in this case I happen to agree.

If this is about Cruz, why are you talking about so many other things?

exotix
03-23-2015, 03:08 PM
Just In

http://s8.tinypic.com/98f4pc_th.jpg

Cruz heads to N.Y.C. for *Jews for Cruz* Fundraiser

http://www.jewishjournal.com/jewish_insider/item/daily_kickoff_ted_cruz_fundraiser_in_nyc_after_pre sidential_campaign_launch


https://www.facebook.com/jewsforcruz

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10568932_700684910038635_7989767366624530281_n.png ?oh=7a61a8f493c7bc181e0689460899acc0&oe=557456A1

Cigar
03-23-2015, 03:10 PM
Just In

http://s8.tinypic.com/98f4pc_th.jpg

Cruz heads to N.Y.C. for *Jews for Cruz* Fundraiser

http://www.jewishjournal.com/jewish_insider/item/daily_kickoff_ted_cruz_fundraiser_in_nyc_after_pre sidential_campaign_launch


https://www.facebook.com/jewsforcruz

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10568932_700684910038635_7989767366624530281_n.png ?oh=7a61a8f493c7bc181e0689460899acc0&oe=557456A1

Fuck That! :rollseyes:

If you don't stand with Americans ... ALL AMERICANS, then you'll never come close to the Oval Office. :laugh:

Cigar
03-23-2015, 03:11 PM
Just In

http://s8.tinypic.com/98f4pc_th.jpg

Cruz heads to N.Y.C. for *Jews for Cruz* Fundraiser

http://www.jewishjournal.com/jewish_insider/item/daily_kickoff_ted_cruz_fundraiser_in_nyc_after_pre sidential_campaign_launch


https://www.facebook.com/jewsforcruz

https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10568932_700684910038635_7989767366624530281_n.png ?oh=7a61a8f493c7bc181e0689460899acc0&oe=557456A1

Typical Divide and Concorde Tacit

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:11 PM
Same with Rand Paul and Marco Rubio its going to be fun reminding the right that they dont have enough experience.

So, a big government lib rejects Cruz because he does not have enough experience for the job.

How instructive.

he is right on the issues and I don't see how spending more time in the corrupt Washington cesspool makes Cruz a better president.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 05:13 PM
God, guns and glory... and teh joooos.

woo hoo... just what every hispanic Canadian is into these days.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:13 PM
If this is about Cruz, why are you talking about so many other things?

Why?

Because libs don't like him?

They are all voting for the Hildebeast anyway.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:14 PM
God, guns and glory... and teh joooos.

woo hoo... just what every hispanic Canadian is into these days.

I prefer to think of Cruz as pandering to our friends instead of our enemies.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:16 PM
So, a big government lib rejects Cruz because he does not have enough experience for the job.

How instructive.

he is right on the issues and I don't see how spending more time in the corrupt Washington cesspool makes any lib a better president.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 05:17 PM
I prefer to think of Cruz as pandering to our friends instead of our enemies.

He's pandering to his agenda.

I know you don't get that.

PolWatch
03-23-2015, 05:18 PM
I prefer to think of Cruz as pandering to our friends instead of our enemies.

panderVariation (http://dictionary.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0LEVja_kBBVMdkA0SoPxQt.?p=pander&.sep=&fr=yhs-iry-fullyhosted_003#variation)

Houghton Mifflin (http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index;_ylt=AwrBEiLLkBBVWj0AVAl5GVxH?locale=en_US&y=PROD&page=content&id=SLN9032)


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Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:22 PM
He's pandering to his agenda.

I know you don't get that.

Whats wrong with having an agenda?

Do libertarians not have agenda's?

Common Sense
03-23-2015, 05:23 PM
Whats wrong with having an agenda?

Do libertarians not have agendas

His issue is with his pandering, I'm assuming.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 05:24 PM
Whats wrong with having an agenda?

Do libertarians not have agendas

Well, let's see. God, guns, government and jews.

Looks like his agenda is purely special interest driven.

Again, I totally don't expect you to get this.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:27 PM
His issue is with his pandering, I'm assuming.

And you're still Canadian, I'm assuming.

go tell PolWatch how much you despise Cruz because I'm not interested.

Reason10
03-23-2015, 05:29 PM
Yeah, I earlier said Scott Walker would be the next president. He still has a shot.

Today, Senator Ted Cruz just announced that he is officially running for president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N9H1SHL6Pg

Bottom line, he will be the FIRST HISPANIC President in history.
(Rubio, you need to run for reelection so that Florida won't look completely retarded by sending two Democrats to the Senate.)

"It is a time for truth.
It is a time for liberty.
It is a time to reclaim the Constitution of the United States."

He's going to target the base, (which makes up the majority of America)

And if you liberals have a problem with this HISPANIC, you're a racist.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:29 PM
Well, let's see. God, guns, government and jews.

Looks like his agenda is purely special interest driven.

Again, I totally don't expect you to get this.

I like God even though you obviously don't.

Guns carried by brave men have secured our liberty for more than 200 years.

And I don't hate Jews.

I suppose you you could not be farther removed from Cruz and me.

Howey
03-23-2015, 05:31 PM
panderVariation (http://dictionary.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0LEVja_kBBVMdkA0SoPxQt.?p=pander&.sep=&fr=yhs-iry-fullyhosted_003#variation)

Houghton Mifflin (http://help.yahoo.com/kb/index;_ylt=AwrBEiLLkBBVWj0AVAl5GVxH?locale=en_US&y=PROD&page=content&id=SLN9032)


intr.v.

To act as a go-between or liaison in sexual intrigues; function as a procurer.

To cater to the lower tastes and desires of others or exploit their weaknesses.

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Along the same vein, there's something eerily creepy about this picture.

http://i.imgur.com/RgjMN70.jpg

Common Sense
03-23-2015, 05:33 PM
And you're still Canadian, I'm assuming.

go tell PolWatch how much you despise Cruz because I'm not interested.

Yeah, well so is Cruz. ;)

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:33 PM
Along the same vein, there's something eerily creepy about this picture.

http://i.imgur.com/RgjMN70.jpg

It must be the flags.

libs haste the sight of the red, white and blue.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:35 PM
Yeah, well so is Cruz. ;)

Then I will upgrade my opinion of Canadians.

But apparently Cruz and your PM are two of the few good ones.

Common Sense
03-23-2015, 05:35 PM
Along the same vein, there's something eerily creepy about this picture.

http://i.imgur.com/RgjMN70.jpg

Sort of reminds me of The Dead Zone.

Common Sense
03-23-2015, 05:37 PM
http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/221/f/7/Snowball__s_Chance_In_Hell_by_KaiDrawn.png

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:39 PM
I wonder why lib think they represent the majority?

Just because the lefties refuse to vote for Cruz does not rule him out.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 05:41 PM
lol! The GOP still might get it's dark horse but at least at this point they've got their swayback gelding.

nic34
03-23-2015, 05:44 PM
I wonder why lib think they represent the majority?

Just because the lefties refuse to vote for Cruz does not rule him out.

Who said righties will vote for Cruz? There are still many others on the clown bus....


http://arizona.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf80c53ef01b8d0dd2e9d970c-500wi

Crepitus
03-23-2015, 05:50 PM
I thought he was Canadian, not Mexican.

What's his birth certificate say?

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:52 PM
Who said righties will vote for Cruz? There are still many others on the clown bus....


http://arizona.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bf80c53ef01b8d0dd2e9d970c-500wi

I don't know who will win the nomination.

And I would have thought that neither do the lib Cruz haters.

But it does sound like the liberal and libertarian know-it-alls are holding the republican primary right here on PF in March.

And only you guys are allowed to vote.

Chris
03-23-2015, 05:53 PM
Cruz won't even take the nomination because he's too contentious with the party establishment.

Howey
03-23-2015, 05:54 PM
lol! The GOP still might get it's dark horse but at least at this point they've got their swayback gelding.

More like a jackass.


http://i.imgur.com/zAi463W.jpg

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:55 PM
Cruz won't even take the nomination because he's too contentious with the party establishment.

I keep forgetting how much libs love the republican establishment.

GrassrootsConservative
03-23-2015, 05:56 PM
I thought he was Canadian, not Mexican.

What's his birth certificate say?

You guys lost your right to question about birth certificates about 8 years ago.

Howey
03-23-2015, 05:56 PM
lol. I just noticed the "package".

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 05:57 PM
More like a jackass.


http://i.imgur.com/zAi463W.jpg


Democrats are the jackass party

Repubs have the elephant.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 06:07 PM
I like God even though you obviously don't.

Guns carried by brave men have secured our liberty for more than 200 years.

And I don't hate Jews.

I suppose you you could not be farther removed from Cruz and me.

I like a strengthening middle class, leadership qualities and a genuine approach to public service.

I'm not interested in candidates who pander to special interests groups, especially those with powerful and political lobbies.

Cruz is not a candidate I would support simply because he has the "GOP" stamp on his forehead.

exotix
03-23-2015, 06:08 PM
http://s8.tinypic.com/98f4pc_th.jpg

http://www.nationaljournal.com/2016-elections/students-stand-with-rand-cruz-20150323

http://www.businessinsider.com/rand-paul-supporters-crashed-ted-cruzs-presidential-campaign-announcement-2015-3


http://i57.tinypic.com/2gvla1u.png


http://i62.tinypic.com/2u5dz7o.jpg

del
03-23-2015, 06:13 PM
What is Liberty U - like one of those phony "Heritage" diploma mills?

it was george bush's go to school for us attorneys iirc

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 06:15 PM
I like a strengthening middle class, leadership qualities and a genuine approach to public service.

I'm not interested in candidates who pander to special interests groups, especially those with powerful and political lobbies.

Cruz is not a candidate I would support simply because he has the "GOP" stamp on his forehead.

Of course you could not vote for Cruz.

He's not a libertarian in sheep's clothing.

Bob
03-23-2015, 06:18 PM
Well, let's see. God, guns, government and jews.

Looks like his agenda is purely special interest driven.

Again, I totally don't expect you to get this.

The hilda beast of course has no similar agenda????

del
03-23-2015, 06:19 PM
The hilda beast of course has no similar agenda????

focus, bobby

the threads about tailgunner ted, not hillary

focus

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 06:21 PM
The hilda beast of course has no similar agenda????

On PF only libs are supposed to have an agenda.

Conservative repubs need not apply.

Crepitus
03-23-2015, 06:21 PM
You guys lost your right to question about birth certificates about 8 years ago.
Really? I never questioned anyone's birth certificate before, have you?

Howey
03-23-2015, 06:22 PM
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Told ya he's creepy!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08/19/ted-cruz-at-princeton-creepy-sometimes-well-liked-and-exactly-the-same.html


In addition to Mazin and Leitch, several fellow classmates who asked that their names not be used described the young Cruz with words like “abrasive,” "intense," “strident,” “crank,” and “arrogant." Four independently offered the word “creepy,” with some pointing to Cruz’s habit of donning a paisley bathrobe and walking to the opposite end of their dorm’s hallway where the female students lived.

“I would end up fielding the [girls’] complaints: 'Could you please keep your roommate out of our hallway?'" Mazin says.

Must be the beady eyes. All serial killers and creeps have beady eyes.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 06:24 PM
Really? I never questioned anyone's birth certificate before, have you?

I have.

i keep demanding that obumer release his birth records for independent forgery experts to examine.

But he still refuses to this day.

Bob
03-23-2015, 06:25 PM
I like a strengthening middle class, leadership qualities and a genuine approach to public service.

I'm not interested in candidates who pander to special interests groups, especially those with powerful and political lobbies.

Cruz is not a candidate I would support simply because he has the "GOP" stamp on his forehead.

My reason for not supporting him is the same as for Rand Paul and other Senators that lack actual daily administrative experience gained as Governors.

We do not want nor need a clone of Obama.

We have some great Governors that will be in the fray. At this moment, I am with Scott Walker but could change due to more data for a Governor like Jeb Bush. I believe in Jeb as well in other words.

Howey
03-23-2015, 06:25 PM
I have.

i keep demanding that obumer release his birth records for independent forgery experts to examine.

But he still refuses to this day.

I'm sure he took your request into consideration, Mac-7. You are, after all, a very special citizen. :)

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 06:30 PM
The hilda beast of course has no similar agenda????

Don't care, Hillary isn't a candidate I would vote for except in the off chance some crackpot like Santorum gets the nomination where I'd vote for basically anyone to keep that loon out of office.

Crepitus
03-23-2015, 06:31 PM
I have.

i keep demanding that obumer release his birth records for independent forgery experts to examine.

But he still refuses to this day.

Here ya go!
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Obama-birth-certificate-White-House-620x445.jpg

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 06:32 PM
My reason for not supporting him is the same as for Rand Paul and other Senators that lack actual daily administrative experience gained as Governors.

We do not want nor need a clone of Obama.

We have some great Governors that will be in the fray. At this moment, I am with Scott Walker but could change due to more data for a Governor like Jeb Bush. I believe in Jeb as well in other words.

Scott Walker is a guy I could support, I'm still undecided at this point.

Jeb, no - I don't think we need another Bush in office. But, I could change my mind the more familiar I become with him, I honestly don't know a lot about the guy. I know many conservatives are on the fence with him, but that doesn't sway my opinion, it's just a red flag.

Crepitus
03-23-2015, 06:32 PM
Now let's see Ted's

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 06:32 PM
My reason for not supporting him is the same as for Rand Paul and other Senators that lack actual daily administrative experience gained as Governors.

We do not want nor need a clone of Obama.

We have some great Governors that will be in the fray. At this moment, I am with Scott Walker but could change due to more data for a Governor like Jeb Bush. I believe in Jeb as well in other words.

I'm not telling you to vote for him.

There are several good candidates.

But Cruz is anything but a clone of Obama.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 06:34 PM
Scott Walker is a guy I could support, I'm still undecided at this point.

Jeb, no - I don't think we need another Bush in office. But, I could change my mind the more familiar I become with him, I honestly don't know a lot about the guy. I know many conservatives are on the fence with him, but that doesn't sway my opinion, it's just a red flag.

I predict Obvious will support Rand Paul and then walk away in a huff if Paul misses out on the nomination.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:35 PM
But does he Love America? :grin:
It seems he does. Do you?

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:36 PM
Really dude ?


Really dudette.

Bo-4
03-23-2015, 06:37 PM
Lol, Fat Fucking Chance for TeaTed the Cuban/Canadian!

:rofl:

WHY you ask?



He is THE Tea Party favorite (20% approval for Teapers at present)
He engineered the 2013 federal government shutdown that cost the economy $24 billion
He doesn’t believe that climate change is real
He sides with social conservatives over women’s health
His words on campaign finance reform: “Money absolutely can be speech”
He’s never held elected office prior to 2013



http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/wiley_coyote_shutdown_express.jpg

But ehhh.. Good luck with that!! :D

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:37 PM
Yeah, I thought Cruz was Canadian.

I don't care if I'm mistaken, he's not a legitimate candidate for POTUS, not in a bazillion $#@!ing years.

He's a $#@!ing circus act, for entertainment value only.

Out of all the GOP hopefuls, Walker is the only guy who I'd consider supporting. The rest of them are monkeys. I have a hunch I'll be voting third party again.
Cruz will be just fine as the President of the United States.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 06:39 PM
I predict Obvious will support Rand Paul and then walk away in a huff if Paul misses out on the nomination.

You must live a difficult life.

In case the hints buzzed past you like common sense does, I've been highly critical of Paul as he's showing he's not above cheezy political maneuvering.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:41 PM
Repeal Obamacare, abolish IRS ... close the borders but embrace those who come here for the American Dream ?
Hmmm. 100% agreement. Awesome. Destroy the EPA as well.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 06:43 PM
You must live a difficult life.

In case the hints buzzed past you like common sense does, I've been highly critical of Paul as he's showing he's not above cheezy political maneuvering.

Paul is going wobbly on the libertarian agenda that libs expect.

And I don't think he will run third party.

So I'm not surprised to hear that you are cool on him too.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:44 PM
This is why conservatives are abandoning the GOP, the GOP for some reason can't stop kissing the religious right's ass.

Mainstream conservatives don't give a $#@! about social conservatism for the most part, it's the economy, stupid.
The Conservatives I know support and defend the Constitution (against all enemies, foreign and domestic).

Conservatives are abandoning the Establishment Republicans. Or rather, when they became garden-variety Progressives they abandoned us.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 06:44 PM
Lol, Fat Fucking Chance for TeaTed the Cuban/Canadian!

:rofl:

WHY you ask?



He is THE Tea Party favorite (20% approval for Teapers at present)
He engineered the 2013 federal government shutdown that cost the economy $24 billion
He doesn’t believe that climate change is real
He sides with social conservatives over women’s health
His words on campaign finance reform: “Money absolutely can be speech”
He’s never held elected office prior to 2013



http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/wiley_coyote_shutdown_express.jpg

But ehhh.. Good luck with that!! :D



Points:

1) Bad - the tea party is full of loons, but 20% is kind of low
2) Good - shut the fucker down for good next time
3) Bad - special interest kook
4) Good - we need to be running babies through wood chippers less
5) Bad - standard establishment lingo if it's what he said and not taken out of context, which there's probably a good chance of that considering the hack left's tendency to do just that
6) Bad - really?

Bo-4
03-23-2015, 06:45 PM
I don't know who will win the nomination.

And I would have thought that neither do the lib Cruz haters.

But it does sound like the liberal and libertarian know-it-alls are holding the republican primary right here on PF in March.

And only you guys are allowed to vote.

Ya got two chances Macky ---> Jebbers (no Bush Baggage there ;-) ANNNND *drumroll*

Snot Walker (MISERABLE record in Wisconsin - created less than 1/3 of the jobs he promised while bleeding education to the tune of 400 mil and running massive deficits)

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 06:45 PM
Now let's see Ted's

First, someone should check to see if he has a belly button.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:47 PM
You cant be an establishment republican liking Scott Walker and the teaparty hurts your party. The republicans are riding high now Ransom its about time they were behind for 25-30 yrs. If you think this is going to continue indefinitely youre in for a rude awakening. As soon as Obama is gone it will start to reverse.

Ive been in this since 21 47 yrs, and I was a republican up until 2012. The right attacking the working class and public workers assured ill never be a registered republican again.

The koch bros spend millions to make the rest of the country a worker suppressed and oppressed south. Where workers work for less than half, accept no benefits and pensions and vote for clowns that want to cut their social security and medicare. One day they will wake up and its not going to be too long down the road.
You do realize that no one with any common sense believes you, don't you?

Bo-4
03-23-2015, 06:47 PM
Democrats are the jackass party

Repubs have the elephant.

Get busy Mr. Mac! :D

https://thingsishouldregretbutidont.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/elephant_poop.jpg

Chris
03-23-2015, 06:47 PM
I keep forgetting how much libs love the republican establishment.

You mean you.

Bob
03-23-2015, 06:47 PM
I'm not telling you to vote for him.

There are several good candidates.

But Cruz is anything but a clone of Obama.

My intent is to compare one jr Senator to a Democrat Jr senator who thought he could be president and failed.

It worries me that republicans honestly see Cruz as prime time.

I like the man a lot. But he lacks hands on government experience.

We will get accused of the same thing Democrats got accused of by picking a man of no executive experience. Actually Cruz at least was TX Attorney General so he has more than Obama had.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 06:49 PM
The Conservatives I know support and defend the Constitution (against all enemies, foreign and domestic).

Conservatives are abandoning the Establishment Republicans. Or rather, when they became garden-variety Progressives they abandoned us.

Im not abandoning the establishment republicans.

Because we need them to reach the promised land.

But I do want to remove them from positions of power.

Chris
03-23-2015, 06:50 PM
Lol, Fat Fucking Chance for TeaTed the Cuban/Canadian!

:rofl:

WHY you ask?



He is THE Tea Party favorite (20% approval for Teapers at present)
He engineered the 2013 federal government shutdown that cost the economy $24 billion
He doesn’t believe that climate change is real
He sides with social conservatives over women’s health
His words on campaign finance reform: “Money absolutely can be speech”
He’s never held elected office prior to 2013



http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/wiley_coyote_shutdown_express.jpg

But ehhh.. Good luck with that!! :D





20% Tea Party support makes someone the favorite? Careful, like a rubberband, stretch logic too far, it'll snap back at you.

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 06:51 PM
My intent is to compare one jr Senator to a Democrat Jr senator who thought he could be president and failed.

It worries me that republicans honestly see Cruz as prime time.

I like the man a lot. But he lacks hands on government experience.

We will get accused of the same thing Democrats got accused of by picking a man of no executive experience. Actually Cruz at least was TX Attorney General so he has more than Obama had.

Ok Cruz does not have long experience in Washington and that's important to you.

But what do you hope to gain by a scorched earth policy of referring to a good conservative man as an Obama clone?

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:52 PM
No one has to bash cruz he has no chance to win, if youre going to bash, bash who you believe will be the winner.
This will give Cruz hope. A radical leftist (kook) believes Cruz has no chance to win. I will spend more time evaluating him. I am positive this evening. Let's see who else gets in. I think Cruz would be a very good president.

PolWatch
03-23-2015, 06:52 PM
Duplicate Threads Merged

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:52 PM
Exactly.

If Cruz gets more than 5% of the nomination voting then I'm moving to Canada.

Call it a trade.
Deal!

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:53 PM
I just don't see any of the other possible candidates beating Jeb for the job.
We never again need a Clinton nor a Bush. I will not vote for him no matter what.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:55 PM
Typical Divide and Concorde Tacit
Translation please.

Bo-4
03-23-2015, 06:55 PM
Points:

1) Bad - the tea party is full of loons, but 20% is kind of low
2) Good - shut the fucker down for good next time
3) Bad - special interest kook
4) Good - we need to be running babies through wood chippers less
5) Bad - standard establishment lingo if it's what he said and not taken out of context, which there's probably a good chance of that considering the hack left's tendency to do just that
6) Bad - really?

1) Okay .. maybe 22% at last check http://www.gallup.com/poll/166217/tea-party-favorability-falls-lowest-yet.aspx
2) Americans didn't think that was good (no not one bit) and they blamed the TeaFleas
3) Ayup.. Koch whore
4) Wanna run fewer babies through "wood chippers"? Cool teach sex ed in the "ab-only" southern states with highest teen preggo rates
5) Uh huh ... but losing meme
6) Yes really! http://ivn.us/2013/08/21/ted-cruz-should-not-run-for-president-in-2016/

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 06:56 PM
Translation please.

Be careful

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 06:56 PM
God, guns and glory... and teh joooos.

woo hoo... just what every hispanic Canadian is into these days.
I had not taken you as an anti-Semite.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 06:57 PM
I had not taken you as an anti-Semite.

That makes two of us, considering I'm part Jewish.

Bob
03-23-2015, 06:57 PM
Ok Cruz does not have long experience in Washington and that's important to you.

But what do you hope to gain by a scorched earth policy of referring to a good conservative man as an Obama clone?

I say my first thought but you took it wrong. I mean only in both being Jr Senators. Cruz is in no way like Obama. I made a mistake in how I phrased it.

Bo-4
03-23-2015, 06:58 PM
20% Tea Party support makes someone the favorite? Careful, like a rubberband, stretch logic too far, it'll snap back at you.

I beg you Chris, please Please PLEASE go with Ted!!
:biglaugh:

I'll be happy to put up my entire net worth including primary home if you'd care to wager. ;-)

Safety
03-23-2015, 06:58 PM
I have.

i keep demanding that obumer release his birth records for independent forgery experts to examine.

But he still refuses to this day.

Have you gone to 1600 Pennsylvania ave. to ask him nicely? I heard that if you jump the fence, he will arrange a special pick up service.

Common
03-23-2015, 06:59 PM
I thought he was Canadian, not Mexican.

What's his birth certificate say?

Cuban Canadian Cowboy lol

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 06:59 PM
Here ya go!
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Obama-birth-certificate-White-House-620x445.jpg

First that is not the orginal document.

Just a picture posted on the Internet.

And I am not a forgery expert.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 06:59 PM
I say my first thought but you took it wrong. I mean only in both being Jr Senators. Cruz is in no way like Obama. I made a mistake in how I phrased it.

Mac's an "any port in the storm" voter.

Cruz is GOP, that's all he needs to know.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:00 PM
Don't care, Hillary isn't a candidate I would vote for except in the off chance some crackpot like Santorum gets the nomination where I'd vote for basically anyone to keep that loon out of office.
Santorum would be fine too.

Chris
03-23-2015, 07:01 PM
I beg you Chris, please Please PLEASE go with Ted!!
:biglaugh:

I'll be happy to put up my entire net worth including primary home if you'd care to wager. ;-)



I don't especially like him, bo, and already explained why he won't win nomination.

Bait someone else.

Note: No rejoinder on pointing out his false facts.

Common
03-23-2015, 07:01 PM
[QUOTE=MisterVeritis;1011768]Santorum would be fine too.[/

Santorum has a better chance if he ran as a democrat

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:01 PM
My intent is to compare one jr Senator to a Democrat Jr senator who thought he could be president and failed.

It worries me that republicans honestly see Cruz as prime time.

I like the man a lot. But he lacks hands on government experience.

We will get accused of the same thing Democrats got accused of by picking a man of no executive experience. Actually Cruz at least was TX Attorney General so he has more than Obama had.
I see him as prime time. We need a leader. Cruz is a leader.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 07:02 PM
Cuban Canadian Cowboy lol

He'll say "We don need no stinkin badges... eh?"

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 07:02 PM
Ya got two chances Macky ---> Jebbers (no Bush Baggage there ;-) ANNNND *drumroll*

Snot Walker (MISERABLE record in Wisconsin - created less than 1/3 of the jobs he promised while bleeding education to the tune of 400 mil and running massive deficits)

I think its very generous for the lib establishment to offer me two choices.

You guys must be losing your grip on the art of dictatorship.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:02 PM
Im not abandoning the establishment republicans.

Because we need them to reach the promised land.

But I do want to remove them from positions of power.
We can agree to disagree. Establishment Republicans need to be defeated.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 07:03 PM
Santorum would be fine too.

...restrained in a safe room.

:biglaugh:

Chris
03-23-2015, 07:04 PM
....He is THE Tea Party favorite (20% approval for Teapers at present)...


1) Okay .. maybe 22% at last check http://www.gallup.com/poll/166217/tea-party-favorability-falls-lowest-yet.aspx



Uh, Bo, that link doesn't support your contention he's a Tea Party favorite, but insteads links to a poll on Tea Party Favorability.


Do you even bother reading what you post?

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:05 PM
Ya got two chances Macky ---> Jebbers (no Bush Baggage there ;-) ANNNND *drumroll*

Snot Walker (MISERABLE record in Wisconsin - created less than 1/3 of the jobs he promised while bleeding education to the tune of 400 mil and running massive deficits)
I like Walker too. If Walker gets in we will have two good candidates.

Captain Obvious
03-23-2015, 07:05 PM
Santorum would be fine too.

Santorum has a better chance if he ran as a democrat

Quote boxes, dude...

Santorum is a classic social conservative that would have us following the Christian version of Sharia law if he had his way.

If he was elected president I would seriously consider moving out of the country.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:07 PM
That makes two of us, considering I'm part Jewish.
So why the anti-Semitism? Have you become a self-loathing Jew?

Strange...

exotix
03-23-2015, 07:07 PM
Pat Robertson apparently responding to Cruz announcement ... http://i61.tinypic.com/98f4pc.jpg



'I Wish Reagan Would Rise From The Dead'

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pat-robertson-reagan-rise-dead



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq0tXRDEQdQ

Mac-7
03-23-2015, 07:08 PM
We can agree to disagree. Establishment Republicans need to be defeated.

I think removing them from power and replacing them with true conservatives is a defeat for them.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:09 PM
Santorum would be fine too.

Santorum has a better chance if he ran as a democrat
He would be fine as a Conservative President.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:10 PM
...restrained in a safe room.

:biglaugh:
No. He would be just fine.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:11 PM
Quote boxes, dude...

Santorum is a classic social conservative that would have us following the Christian version of Sharia law if he had his way.

If he was elected president I would seriously consider moving out of the country.
You screwed it up. I fixed it. Dude.

Nonsense. Dude.

Reason10
03-23-2015, 07:11 PM
I like Ted Cruz; but I am not sure I would want him to be the Republican nominee for president. That is because he would not be likely to draw many votes from the independents, who typically settle presidential elections.

I think the so-called "Buckley Rule" (named for the late William F. Buckley Jr.) comes into play here: One should support the rightmost candidate who has a serious chance of winning.

Perhaps Scott Walker is the ideal candidate, in this regard: He could probably count upon the votes of both Tea Party Republicans and Establishment Republicans, as well as a significant number of independents' votes...

Mitt Romney WON independents. That's the only group he catered to. And he lost an election.
Cruz is going for the Republican base. (you know, conservatives who have a job and pay taxes.) That will get him nominated. Then Reagan Democrats and HILLARY HATER Democrats will climb aboard. Independents will either stay home (which wouldn't matter since there are only ten of them) or they will climb aboard the Cruz juggernaut. Either way, Hillary or ANY OTHER DEMOCRAT is not going to be president.

Bob
03-23-2015, 07:16 PM
I see him as prime time. We need a leader. Cruz is a leader.

Cruz definitely is a leader.

I prefer a leader that has at the least, had to spend years running a state. We get to see how that worked out.

We can compare Jeb Bush to Scott Walker in that both ran states.

So put it into military terms, Walker and Bush wore 3 stars. They might make a good 4 star.

Cruz is still below Col. Some might think of him as a Col, but I don't.

MisterVeritis
03-23-2015, 07:20 PM
Cruz definitely is a leader.

I prefer a leader that has at the least, had to spend years running a state. We get to see how that worked out.

We can compare Jeb Bush to Scott Walker in that both ran states.

So put it into military terms, Walker and Bush wore 3 stars. They might make a good 4 star.

Cruz is still below Col. Some might think of him as a Col, but I don't.
I believe you prefer a governor solely because the one you like was a governor.

Bush sucks. All bush's will.

Walker is fine but he is not the only option. Cruz is a Conservative who believes that conservatism leads to individual liberty. Bush does not believe. He is not a leader.

Peter1469
03-23-2015, 07:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs23CjIWMgA

Brilliant

Bob
03-23-2015, 07:25 PM
I believe you prefer a governor solely because the one you like was a governor.

Bush sucks. All bush's will.

Walker is fine but he is not the only option. Cruz is a Conservative who believes that conservatism leads to individual liberty. Bush does not believe. He is not a leader.

No, not my reason.

I happen to believe in top notch management. That is gained by managing. Cruz managed a legal operation so we must credit him with that. But the AG job is not what a Governors job is.

I am a pilot.

I bet most won't want to fly with me though I legally am a pilot.

But if the pilot flies a commercial wide body jet, he gets the job.

I have seen too many passengers admit that flying commercial provides no fear to them but they fear the "small plane."

Presidents must manage millions of workers. Obama came up not managing anybody. Cruz managed a small state operation.

I am not running Cruz down.

As to Bush, sorry we are not on the same page.

I believe Bush did a lot better job as president than the hollywood types allege.

He gets a bad rap. I think it is not fair.

Crepitus
03-23-2015, 07:25 PM
First that is not the orginal document.

Just a picture posted on the Internet.

And I am not a forgery expert.

Best I can do, I never had a copy myself.

Bob
03-23-2015, 07:29 PM
Mitt Romney WON independents. That's the only group he catered to. And he lost an election.
Cruz is going for the Republican base. (you know, conservatives who have a job and pay taxes.) That will get him nominated. Then Reagan Democrats and HILLARY HATER Democrats will climb aboard. Independents will either stay home (which wouldn't matter since there are only ten of them) or they will climb aboard the Cruz juggernaut. Either way, Hillary or ANY OTHER DEMOCRAT is not going to be president.

I will take Cruz over any Democrat but my god, this is the first to announce. I believe we have better people who are governors. Cruz jumped in prior to his running a state.