What Reality Looks Like to Conservatives

[Cigar]

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Ted Cruz says he's going on Obamacare (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/ted-cruz-enroll-obamacare-116363.html) :smiley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO::s miley_ROFLMAO::but::but::but:

[zelmo1234]

I think that the Senate voted not to use their gold plated plan a suffer with the rest did they not?

How about this, in the good old days she could have used the café plan and kept her insurance.

[iustitia]

Whether by accident or not, Cigar is making a good point about phony politicians. It would behoove the 'conservatives' on this board to not dismiss this offhand and consider that Cruz isn't as sincere as he'd like us to think.

[Bo-4]

I love this story.. 6 months from now you'll pry Ted's Obamacare from his cold dead hands! :cool:

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[Cigar]

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"I mean we have been promised a lot of things these past five years that didn't turn out to be the case —death panels, doom, a serious alternative from Republicans in Congress," Obama said, smirking during a speech highlighting the fifth anniversary of his signature healthcare law. "The budget they introduced last week would literally double the number of uninsured in America."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/obama-obamacare-gop-doom

[Chris]

Whether by accident or not, Cigar is making a good point about phony politicians. It would behoove the 'conservatives' on this board to not dismiss this offhand and consider that Cruz isn't as sincere as he'd like us to think.

Agree. Cruz is not conservative.

[Mister D]

Whether by accident or not, Cigar is making a good point about phony politicians. It would behoove the 'conservatives' on this board to not dismiss this offhand and consider that Cruz isn't as sincere as he'd like us to think.

Who is?

[Cigar]

Agree. Cruz is not conservative.

He Votes Republican ... Just like YOU :grin:

[iustitia]

He Votes Republican ... Just like YOU :grin:

Chris doesn't vote... Jesus Christ.


Yeah that opening post was definitely a mulligan.

[Cigar]

Chris doesn't vote... Jesus Christ.


Yeah that opening post was definitely a mulligan.

Yea ... that's what he keeps saying :laugh:

[iustitia]

And you have reason to doubt him?

[Mister D]

And you have reason to doubt him?

In his defense, it's inconceivable to Cigar, as well as many other Americans, that anyone falls outside the partisan box.

[Cigar]

Notice what happens when they can't address the Thread? :laugh:

[Cigar]

President Signs Order Making Ted Cruz Ineligible for Obamacare :laugh:
WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) — Just hours after Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) told CNN that he had no choice but to sign up for Obamacare, President Barack Obama signed an executive order making Cruz ineligible for coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

“Clearly, the hardship of receiving Obamacare was causing Ted a great deal of pain,” the President said. “This should take care of that.”

Obama acknowledged that the executive order, which makes Cruz the only American expressly forbidden from signing up for Obamacare, was an extraordinary measure, but added, “I felt it was a necessary humanitarian gesture to protect Ted from the law he hates.”

Even as he signed the order, the President said that he was “torn” about barring Cruz from coverage, stating,”He’s definitely someone who would benefit from seeing a doctor.”

Borowitz Satire (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/president-signs-order-making-ted-cruz-ineligible-for-obamacare)



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[Chris]

Yea ... that's what he keeps saying :laugh:

And not doing.


Problem is partisans can't see outside their little partisan box.

[Chris]

Notice what happens when they can't address the Thread? :laugh:

Why, we agreed with your mulligan.

[Cigar]

Ted Cruz Wants You To Believe He’s Legally Required To Sign Up For Obamacare. He’s Not.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/03/25/3638697/ted-cruz-wants-believe-hes-legally-required-sign-obamacare-hes-totally-wrong/


Newly-minted presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) admitted that he would grudgingly sign up for health care coverage through the Affordable Care Act on Tuesday, just one day after announcing that he intends to repeal “every word of Obamacare” if elected president.

Cruz framed the decision as one of inevitability. After all, a provision of the law requires members of Congress and some of their staff to purchase coverage through the law’s marketplace in DC and since his wife and current coverage provider is giving up her employer-sponsored plan to work on his presidential campaign, the family needed to enroll in a new policy.

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The Affordable Care Act does not compel members of Congress to enroll in DC’s health care exchange; it simply cuts off the government contribution to their insurance plans if they buy their policies elsewhere. “The final rule extends a Government contribution towards health benefits plans for Members of Congress and designated congressional staff so long as the health benefits plans are purchased via the appropriate SHOP as determined by the Director,” a summary of the final rule says. “Nothing in the final rule or the law prevents a Member of Congress or designated congressional staff from declining a Government contribution for him or herself by choosing a different option for their health insurance coverage.”

In other words, Cruz “could purchase coverage in the outside market but would get no subsidy from the FEHBP program,” Tim Jost clarified for ThinkProgress, referring to the acronym for the federal health care program. “It seems like the primary other option he would have is to take advantage of COBRA through his wife, though he’d be forgoing the employer contribution. He could also buy non-group coverage,” Larry Levitt, Senior Vice President at the Kaiser Family Foundation, said. Cruz could also potentially purchased insurance through his presidential campaign’s presumptive health care insurance. In those instances, however, he would have had to give up his employer’s contribution and likely pay more for insurance than he is now being charged under Obamacare.

Despite initially telling CNN’s Dana Bash that Cruz didn’t pursue other alternatives because “Obamacare has wiped out the individual market, leaving Cruz with few options,” his staff is now explaining to reporters that Cruz might skip the DC exchange and sign up for coverage in Texas, through that state’s federal exchange. “As it happens, Cruz appears likely to forego the 75 percent employer contribution he could get as a member of Congress and instead access Obamacare from Texas, which doesn’t have a state exchange,” The Daily Caller reports, adding, “That means Cruz would use HealthCare.gov to get health insurance, at the same time the Supreme Court is considering ruling taxpayer {subsidies} for federal exchange customers illegal.”

[zelmo1234]

Whether by accident or not, Cigar is making a good point about phony politicians. It would behoove the 'conservatives' on this board to not dismiss this offhand and consider that Cruz isn't as sincere as he'd like us to think.

I will go one further, Cruz is not a serious candidate, he is tossing his hat in to be Jeb's VP

There is not one person running that I would let watch my children. they are all slime of the earth.

[Chris]

I will go one further, Cruz is not a serious candidate, he is tossing his hat in to be Jeb's VP

There is not one person running that I would let watch my children. they are all slime of the earth.

Ouch!

Poor cigar can huff and puff but can't beat that criticism.