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Carygrant
07-03-2012, 03:12 PM
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/whatkilledarafat/2012/07/20127383653774794.html

It seems highly probable that Terrorist Yasser Arafat was poisoned in Paris in 2004 with Polonium 210 -- hitherto made famous when used by the Russian FSB to assassinate Sasha Litvinenko in London 2006 .
The short video succinctly shows the top line evidence for this perhaps surprising conclusion .

Peter1469
07-03-2012, 03:22 PM
He died of AIDs. He was a real Queen.

Conley
07-03-2012, 03:27 PM
I find it a little strange that eight years later his toothbrush and 'urine stained underwear' are still around. Certainly plenty of people wanted him dead, so if he was in fact poisoned then I can't say I'm too surprised.

Calypso Jones
07-03-2012, 03:46 PM
hell ida poisoned him. He's dead. good riddance.

Carygrant
07-03-2012, 03:52 PM
He died of AIDs. He was a real Queen.

One of the points of the report was that he almost certainly did not die of aids -- and a lot of other things previously thrown into the gossip bin .
But what the report did not tell you is that with the bulk of all known Polonium production coming from Russia in 2004 , other interesting possibilities reveal themselves .
Further, you can pinpoint production with 100% accuracy to country of production and even batch number from a specific plant . It's a very unique substance carrying its own unique " finger print" .
Until 2006 nobody realised how to test or even the need for it ; special security services believed that Russia via URPO only used Thalium and similar substances for assassinations . In fact it was only inspired thinking by a British expert which led to Litvinenko being accurately diagnosed -- the first person ever , as far as we know .

Conley
07-03-2012, 04:04 PM
Interesting stuff...

A former speech writer for President George W Bush claimed he had contracted Aids from a homosexual relationship with one of his guards, while aides of Arafat have alleged that he was poisoned by Mossad with Thallium, another radioactive element.
British police and doctors initially believed that Litvinenko, a former KGB officer who defected to London, was killed with Thallium, a misdiagnosis because Polonium-210 is harder to detect with normal hospital equipment.

Some of Arafat's symptoms, including vomiting, cirrhosis and coma, are compatible with Polonium-210 poisoning, which results in a long and agonising death. But it is not thought that Arafat suffered hair loss, which is thought to happen in half of cases of significant exposure to the element.

The dose allegedly ingested by Arafat was much smaller than the amount that killed Litvinenko, making it even harder to detect.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/9374010/Yasser-Arafat-poisoned-with-Polonium.html

Conley
07-03-2012, 04:06 PM
The polonium-210 dose that will kill 50 percent of persons who internalize it is about 100,000th of a milligram, one-million times more toxic than cyanide.4

Some commercially manufactured antistatic devices may contain as much as 500 micro-curies of polonium-210, theoretically enough radioactive material to kill 5,000 persons.5 However, this polonium is affixed in a gold foil amalgam; extremely sophisticated techniques and advanced technical knowledge would be required to weaponize such polonium.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/58088.php

Peter1469
07-03-2012, 04:47 PM
One of the points of the report was that he almost certainly did not die of aids -- and a lot of other things previously thrown into the gossip bin .
But what the report did not tell you is that with the bulk of all known Polonium production coming from Russia in 2004 , other interesting possibilities reveal themselves .
Further, you can pinpoint production with 100% accuracy to country of production and even batch number from a specific plant . It's a very unique substance carrying its own unique " finger print" .
Until 2006 nobody realised how to test or even the need for it ; special security services believed that Russia via URPO only used Thalium and similar substances for assassinations . In fact it was only inspired thinking by a British expert which led to Litvinenko being accurately diagnosed -- the first person ever , as far as we know .

One of the main Russian foreign policy goals since the end of the Soviet Union was to keep the US bogged down in the ME. I don't think that assassinating Arafat would advance that goal.

Carygrant
07-03-2012, 04:53 PM
Interesting stuff...



Some of Arafat's symptoms, including vomiting, cirrhosis and coma, are compatible with Polonium-210 poisoning, which results in a long and agonising death. But it is not thought that Arafat suffered hair loss, which is thought to happen in half of cases of significant exposure to the element.
The dose allegedly ingested by Arafat was much smaller than the amount that killed Litvinenko, making it even harder to detect.

Arafat keeping some of his his hair is not in itself a reason for ruling out P210 as the poison . Complete hair loss only occurs 100% after a certain Polonium 210 dosage level is reached . Below that level , only around 50% suffer hair loss.
More critical though is the fact I alluded to previously , that Polonium 210 could never be diagnosed in 2004 because nobody had thought of it as a poison agent and therefore nobody knew how make the right tests to isolate it .
All hospitals tested for gamma radiation which is a Thallium hallmark . Polonium 210 only shows up if you test for alpha radiation .Only discovered as a last resort two years later
Places like MI6 and Mossad knew about Thallium in 2004 and that it was a favourite killing method used by Russians in serious incidents . But they had no inkling that something called Polonium 210 was also being used.
Therefore , it seems likely that Russia is the prime suspect . The substance could not be obtained without top level agreement -- military and government --and was on the highest national security level .
You would need to create a very fanciful scenario to show that any power group apart from Russian could get hold of the substance in 2004.
Sure they could have sold it to somebody . But that is a crazy idea for several reasons -- it would have given the "game " away .

Carygrant
07-03-2012, 05:02 PM
One of the main Russian foreign policy goals since the end of the Soviet Union was to keep the US bogged down in the ME. I don't think that assassinating Arafat would advance that goal.

Your hypothesis might be reasonable , but this does not mean that they were uninvolved in any other matters .
Hezbollah and Hamas would have been deliriously happy to see Arafat disappear for obvious reasons .
It is easy to imagine Russia being very happy to agree to that , as nobody knew how to detect P210 at that time . And as said above , nobody had thought of it as even a poison contender , let alone as an explanation of a death .
In the way that they assassinated Litvinenko without thinking they would be discovered , so they might have thought that Arafat presented the simplest of problems to execute . And if this scenario is the one that happened , it was a very simple operation to mount and carry out .

Peter1469
07-03-2012, 06:07 PM
And rumors of Arafat gay lifestyle were around for years before his death.

Conley
07-03-2012, 06:21 PM
Arafat keeping some of his his hair is not in itself a reason for ruling out P210 as the poison . Complete hair loss only occurs 100% after a certain Polonium 210 dosage level is reached . Below that level , only around 50% suffer hair loss.
More critical though is the fact I alluded to previously , that Polonium 210 could never be diagnosed in 2004 because nobody had thought of it as a poison agent and therefore nobody knew how make the right tests to isolate it .
All hospitals tested for gamma radiation which is a Thallium hallmark . Polonium 210 only shows up if you test for alpha radiation .Only discovered as a last resort two years later
Places like MI6 and Mossad knew about Thallium in 2004 and that it was a favourite killing method used by Russians in serious incidents . But they had no inkling that something called Polonium 210 was also being used.
Therefore , it seems likely that Russia is the prime suspect . The substance could not be obtained without top level agreement -- military and government --and was on the highest national security level .
You would need to create a very fanciful scenario to show that any power group apart from Russian could get hold of the substance in 2004.
Sure they could have sold it to somebody . But that is a crazy idea for several reasons -- it would have given the "game " away .

Oh definitely, I agree. Although P210 is used in materials it sounds very difficult for anyone to extract. Considering Russian past history with the poison, that implicates them as well. It could be some rogue operative with Russian connections though and not a deliberate and sanctioned act by the Russian government. If it's anything like their bioweapons, they don't exactly have them tightly secured.

Goldie Locks
07-03-2012, 09:34 PM
Interesting stuff...

A former speech writer for President George W Bush claimed he had contracted Aids from a homosexual relationship with one of his guards, while aides of Arafat have alleged that he was poisoned by Mossad with Thallium, another radioactive element.
British police and doctors initially believed that Litvinenko, a former KGB officer who defected to London, was killed with Thallium, a misdiagnosis because Polonium-210 is harder to detect with normal hospital equipment.

Some of Arafat's symptoms, including vomiting, cirrhosis and coma, are compatible with Polonium-210 poisoning, which results in a long and agonising death. But it is not thought that Arafat suffered hair loss, which is thought to happen in half of cases of significant exposure to the element.

The dose allegedly ingested by Arafat was much smaller than the amount that killed Litvinenko, making it even harder to detect.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/9374010/Yasser-Arafat-poisoned-with-Polonium.html

Sounds like the Ruskie's to me.

roadmaster
07-04-2012, 12:31 AM
You never know. The rumors could be true about aids but most likely if he was poisoned, it was someone he knew.

moon
07-04-2012, 03:06 AM
Without Arafat there would have been no Palestinian resistance. *Without Palestinian resistance there would be no Palestine. * Who would be happy to see no Palestine ? * *There's your poisoner. *

The US expressly forbade Sharon's intent to openly kill him. *


Sharon regrets sparing Arafat

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon says he regrets not having killed Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in Lebanon 20 years ago.

"For prime ministers to announce openly their gangster intention is a reflection of what kind of government we're dealing with."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1793304.stm


*On the positive side, the Fat Assassin, Sharon, is kept ' alive ' today by means of a tube up his ass. * Karma, it appears, does not recognize sectarian boundaries.*

http://www.jewlicious.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/arafat.jpg

MMC
07-04-2012, 03:36 AM
And rumors of Arafat gay lifestyle were around for years before his death.

Are they just rumors? Or was the re-tread dabbling into something he shouldnt have been? Do you actually think the Russians would have wasted their time on Arafat. An alleged leader without Country and even better. Without an Army that can stand up to anybody on their own.

Sultan
07-04-2012, 04:32 AM
The polonium was found they say on his clothes so that's no evidence surely?

Only if they find it on the body can they say that it could have been something that killed him.

moon
07-05-2012, 01:38 AM
Right. * *Let's dig up JFK and check those angles again.*

MMC
07-05-2012, 06:02 AM
Then lets Dig up Mohammed and finally prove what a fake he really was......also with Arafat they should check to see if those hip bones were widen out. Perhaps they can even validate those Rumors of homosexuality he was dabbling into.

KSigMason
07-05-2012, 10:53 AM
People want him to have been poisoned to further aggression.