See posters, she refused to bake the cake

[Bob]

This is what we told you. If you must make a cake that offends you, you do not have to bake the cake.

This time I am sure the pro homosexuals will love it. But it works both ways.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/azucar-bakery-did-not-discriminate-by-refusing-to-115703680320.html

[GrassrootsConservative]

Exactly. We're consistent. The left is not.

[Redrose]

This is what we told you. If you must make a cake that offends you, you do not have to bake the cake.

This time I am sure the pro homosexuals will love it. But it works both ways.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/azucar-bakery-did-not-discriminate-by-refusing-to-115703680320.html


Why is it honorable for her and not for the other way around?

I guess the LGBT community wants to go both ways with it.

[Bob]

Why is it honorable for her and not for the other way around?

I guess the LGBT community wants to go both ways with it.

Yes, that is exactly what is going on. Funny innit?

[GrassrootsConservative]

Why is it honorable for her and not for the other way around?

I guess the LGBT community wants to go both ways with it.

As Howey says, they want gays to be a "protected class." AKA above the rest of us.

[Safety]

This is what we told you. If you must make a cake that offends you, you do not have to bake the cake.

This time I am sure the pro homosexuals will love it. But it works both ways.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/azucar-bakery-did-not-discriminate-by-refusing-to-115703680320.html


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She agreed to make the dessert in the shape of a book but declined to include the hateful content


You do understand that there is a difference between not baking a cake because the customer is gay and not baking a cake with a hateful message, right? If a gay customer wanted a cake made that said "Christanity is a bigoted religion" or "Christians are assholes", then I would stand behind the baker for refusing to make the cake, but refusing to bake a regular cake because you don't like gays is a cop out. If you are so religious that baking a cake for gays is detestable, how do you weed out the adulterers or shellfish eating customers? What about the customers that may have not honored their mother or father, or coveted their neighbor's wife?

[zelmo1234]

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You do understand that there is a difference between not baking a cake because the customer is gay and not baking a cake with a hateful message, right? If a gay customer wanted a cake made that said "Christanity is a bigoted religion" or "Christians are $#@!s", then I would stand behind the baker for refusing to make the cake, but refusing to bake a regular cake because you don't like gays is a cop out. If you are so religious that baking a cake for gays is detestable, how do you weed out the adulterers or shellfish eating customers? What about the customers that may have not honored their mother or father, or coveted their neighbor's wife?

I could see a common Ground here if they want a wedding cake, the bakeries cold bake a cake with plain white frosting and the couple could decorate the cake themselves.

That sounds fair!

[Crepitus]

Well, It's pretty dishonest (but that is what I expect from the right theses days so we'll just let it go) to compare hate speech and a wedding cake but IMHO she should have made the cake.

[Bob]

snip from the article ....


You do understand that there is a difference between not baking a cake because the customer is gay and not baking a cake with a hateful message, right? If a gay customer wanted a cake made that said "Christanity is a bigoted religion" or "Christians are assholes", then I would stand behind the baker for refusing to make the cake, but refusing to bake a regular cake because you don't like gays is a cop out. If you are so religious that baking a cake for gays is detestable, how do you weed out the adulterers or shellfish eating customers? What about the customers that may have not honored their mother or father, or coveted their neighbor's wife?

There are two arguments.

Let's stick to the cake in this case.

1. A cake carries a message.
2. A cake carries no message.

If the cake carries a message,why must a cake maker that despises the message be forced to make such cakes? Do I have the right to force you to make a cake for my consumption that causes you enormous distress?

I say your freedom and your rights have to be taken into account and you ought not be forced into what almost amounts to a servant relationship merely to get out your message.

In the case of homosexuals, be it right or wrong ... as YOU see it, YOU are not the only customer or audience.

Maybe the shop owner and his family has to be considered as well. If you bake the cake, put any message you wish on said cake.

If you want to hire me, My views and my family considerations can be a factor.

To some, supporting homosexuals offends them. To others, they don't mind.

[Captain Obvious]

Enjoy these gay cakes:

http://ikoupon.com/images/p_3_Gay-Cake_3.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/ab/d0/6a/abd06a2abfe327b2c5fa21c12c722900.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6a/b8/5d/6ab85d64014355c585f080fcbe259c00.jpg
http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/penis-cake-2.jpeg
http://i.imgur.com/1xNhYjL.png

[Cigar]

https://thelovelyplains.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/2.jpg

[zelmo1234]

Well, It's pretty dishonest (but that is what I expect from the right theses days so we'll just let it go) to compare hate speech and a wedding cake but IMHO she should have made the cake.

Yes even Hate speech is free speech, that is the hard part about freedom.

[texan]

Well I was gonna post something supportive but after Capt Obv. pictures I am somewhere between grossed out and curious.

[Crepitus]

Yes even Hate speech is free speech, that is the hard part about freedom.
Still a dishonest comparison you must admit.

[zelmo1234]

Still a dishonest comparison you must admit.

Yes to you and me it would seem that way, but not to those that feel participation in a gay wedding is sin. and they should have their rights respected too.

Now if they were the last bake left within a 100 miles and there was no other possibility, then OK I think that we might have to come to some common ground solution.

But if you are going to say this is not offensive to me so I am going to force you to do this, then you have to be willing to have others force their opinion on you!

That is called being fair. What I would prefer to fair, is Free and that means we each can make our own choice and say NO depending on our own values.

[Blackrook]

This was a wrong decision. If bakers can be forced to endorse same-sex weddings, then they can be forced to express anti-gay ideas. The point, either way, is that the First Amendment is a dead letter.