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exotix
04-07-2015, 05:35 PM
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South Carolina Officer Is Charged With Murder in Black Man’s Death


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=0

A white police officer has been charged with murder, the mayor of North Charleston, S.C., said Tuesday, after a video surfaced showing him shooting and killing an apparently unarmed black man in the back while he ran away.

The officer, Michael T. Slager, had said he feared for his life because the man took his stun gun (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/stun_guns/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) in a scuffle after a traffic stop on Saturday.

A video, however, shows the officer firing eight times as the man fled.

The state charges were announced in a news conference Tuesday evening.



Video Inside


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Blackrook
04-07-2015, 06:39 PM
OK, so now you know that when it's not a good shoot, the policeman will be punished to the full extent of the law.

So STFU about the rest.

exotix
04-07-2015, 06:56 PM
OK, so now you know that when it's not a good shoot, the policeman will be punished to the full extent of the law.

So STFU about the rest.
The cop apparently tried to get away with it as a justifiable-shoot ... because his life was in endanger ... and he would've ... if not for the video.

Safety
04-07-2015, 07:01 PM
Why does the race matter? Even if the guy the cop shot was white, is there supposed to be a lesser concern that someone was shot in the back?

In my opinion, I don't think the article title is helping.

exotix
04-07-2015, 07:05 PM
Why does the race matter? Even if the guy the cop shot was white, is there supposed to be a lesser concern that someone was shot in the back?

In my opinion, I don't think the article title is helping.
Notice the cop goes back to where the taser was then comes back and drops it next to the body ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9CtXwIaXD8

Mister D
04-07-2015, 07:10 PM
Notice the cop goes back to where the taser was then comes back and drops it next to the body ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9CtXwIaXD8

No, I noticed how you didn't answer his question.

Mister D
04-07-2015, 07:10 PM
Why does the race matter? Even if the guy the cop shot was white, is there supposed to be a lesser concern that someone was shot in the back?

In my opinion, I don't think the article title is helping.

If the victim was white this would never have been posted. Well, not by Exotix anyway.

exotix
04-07-2015, 07:13 PM
No, I noticed how you didn't answer his question.
If the victim was white this would never have been posted. Well, not by Exotix anyway.
I'll post it up the next time a white goes out for a gallon of milk ... gets stopped by a cop ... and ends up at the morgue.

Peter1469
04-07-2015, 07:16 PM
I'll post it up the next time a white goes out for a gallon of milk ... gets stopped by a cop ... and ends up at the morgue.

Or skittles.

Cigar
04-07-2015, 07:41 PM
Why does the race matter? Even if the guy the cop shot was white, is there supposed to be a lesser concern that someone was shot in the back?

In my opinion, I don't think the article title is helping.


I promise Safety, when White People start getting shot 8 TIMES DEAD in back by Cops every other month, I'll be the first to say that Wrong.

Let me be the first to say, I hope that Cop gets a Brother for an inmate. :grin:

Now lets let the Racist have Fun, I'm hungry, I'll have my Fun tomorrow.

Redrose
04-07-2015, 07:45 PM
I promise Safety, when White People start getting shot 8 TIMES DEAD in back by Cops every other month, I'll be the first to say that Wrong.

Let me be the first to say, I hope that Cop gets a Brother for an inmate. :grin:

Now lets let the Racist have Fun, I'm hungry, I'll have my Fun tomorrow.


Who's brother?

Blackrook
04-07-2015, 08:16 PM
Cigar are you such a racist that you call black men "brothers."

Should white people call each other "brothers."

You would probably think whites were racist if we showed that kind of biased preference for other whites.

Blackrook
04-07-2015, 08:23 PM
Anyway, you leftist agitators have cried "Wolf" too often on shoots and chokeholds that turned out to be legitimate. Now you have no credibility left if you find a case where the cop is really at fault. We will assume you are lying again, because that's all you've been doing so far: lying.

MisterVeritis
04-07-2015, 08:26 PM
Just In


South Carolina Officer Is Charged With Murder in Black Man’s Death

A white police officer has been charged with murder, the mayor of North Charleston, S.C., said Tuesday, after a video surfaced showing him shooting and killing an apparently unarmed black man in the back while he ran away.

The officer, Michael T. Slager, had said he feared for his life because the man took his stun gun (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/stun_guns/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) in a scuffle after a traffic stop on Saturday.

A video, however, shows the officer firing eight times as the man fled.

The state charges were announced in a news conference Tuesday evening.


Is he in any trouble?

Blackrook
04-07-2015, 08:35 PM
Is he in any trouble?
The cop is being charged with murder for shooting an unarmed man eight times in the back.

There is nothing more to be said, but racists exotix and Cigar are going to make it a race issue anyway.

The Xl
04-07-2015, 08:36 PM
Why does the race matter? Even if the guy the cop shot was white, is there supposed to be a lesser concern that someone was shot in the back?

In my opinion, I don't think the article title is helping.

This

Blackrook
04-07-2015, 08:37 PM
And no, the cop is NOT going to be put in G.P. and share a cell with a "brother."

He will be put in the wing where they keep the prisoners who are in danger if they were in G.P.: child molesters, informers, and ex-cops.

Since he is an ex-cop, the prison guards will treat him like one of them, and he will get much better treatment than the other prisoners.

Sorry to burst your revenge bubble Cigar.

The Xl
04-07-2015, 08:38 PM
I promise Safety, when White People start getting shot 8 TIMES DEAD in back by Cops every other month, I'll be the first to say that Wrong.

Let me be the first to say, I hope that Cop gets a Brother for an inmate. :grin:

Now lets let the Racist have Fun, I'm hungry, I'll have my Fun tomorrow.

You don't help the cause at all, you hurt it actually.

Cop vs civilian or even black civilian title is fine, making it white vs black is stupid and misleading.

The Xl
04-07-2015, 08:39 PM
And no, the cop is NOT going to be put in G.P. and share a cell with a "brother."

He will be put in the wing where they keep the prisoners who are in danger if they were in G.P.: child molesters, informers, and ex-cops.

Since he is an ex-cop, the prison guards will treat him like one of them, and he will get much better treatment than the other prisoners.

Sorry to burst your revenge bubble Cigar.

And I'm sure that makes you happy, too.

Peter1469
04-07-2015, 08:42 PM
I promise Safety, when White People start getting shot 8 TIMES DEAD in back by Cops every other month, I'll be the first to say that Wrong.

Let me be the first to say, I hope that Cop gets a Brother for an inmate. :grin:

Now lets let the Racist have Fun, I'm hungry, I'll have my Fun tomorrow.

5 times. The cop missed 3 times.

Blackrook
04-07-2015, 08:42 PM
And I'm sure that makes you happy, too.
What makes me happy is that Cigar's masturbation fantasy of a cop being raped in prison by a "brother" won't come true.

The Xl
04-07-2015, 08:48 PM
What makes me happy is that Cigar's masturbation fantasy of a cop being raped in prison by a "brother" won't come true.

Nice that you have such sympathy for a murder. Doubt the sentiment would be the same if the situation and person was different

MisterVeritis
04-07-2015, 09:20 PM
The cop is being charged with murder for shooting an unarmed man eight times in the back.

There is nothing more to be said, but racists @exotix (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=516) and @Cigar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=294) are going to make it a race issue anyway.
To me that sounds like trouble.

For the racists on the board, what did you want to have happen?

BB-35
04-07-2015, 09:22 PM
I'll post it up the next time a white goes out for a gallon of milk ... gets stopped by a cop ... and ends up at the morgue.
No,you won't....

maineman
04-07-2015, 09:23 PM
a brother for a prison husband. that would be perfect. 40 years without any front teeth and a rectum you could drive a car into.

BB-35
04-07-2015, 09:27 PM
maybe he'll take long windy walks with this 'brother'

exotix
04-07-2015, 09:39 PM
The cop is being charged with murder for shooting an unarmed man eight times in the back.

There is nothing more to be said, but racists @exotix (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=516) and @Cigar (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=294) are going to make it a race issue anyway.
No,you won't....Kind of rare you ever hear about a white getting massacred by a cop ... I wouldn't hold my breath ain't neither ...

Professor Peabody
04-07-2015, 11:53 PM
The guy was a fleeing felon and should have been shot. Failing to shoot fleeing felons is the main reason there are so many high speed police chases that kill innocent people.

Blackrook
04-08-2015, 01:01 AM
Nice that you have such sympathy for a murder. Doubt the sentiment would be the same if the situation and person was different
I don't give a fuck what you think.

Redrose
04-08-2015, 02:33 AM
Kind of rare you ever hear about a white getting massacred by a cop ... I wouldn't hold my breath ain't neither ...


It happens, but the news usually ignores it.

A deputy in our area in Fl. shot a man in his car 13 times in the head. The man had an altercation with his wife and left in his car to cool down. The cops were looking for him because the wife had visable bruising. This young deputy finds him and husband doesn't feel like talking and wanted to drive away. The deputy ordered him to stop, he refused and started to drive away. The deputy opened fire and killed him. Some shots were in the back of his head. Bad shoot in my book. He said the husband tried to hit him with the car. Grand jury agreed. He went free. Still a deputy and now is a sergeant. That was a white/white crime. Not news worthy.

Cthulhu
04-08-2015, 02:42 AM
It happens, but the news usually ignores it.

A deputy in our area in Fl. shot a man in his car 13 times in the head. The man had an altercation with his wife and left in his car to cool down. The cops were looking for him because the wife had visable bruising. This young deputy finds him and husband doesn't feel like talking and wanted to drive away. The deputy ordered him to stop, he refused and started to drive away. The deputy opened fire and killed him. Some shots were in the back of his head. Bad shoot in my book. He said the husband tried to hit him with the car. Grand jury agreed. He went free. Still a deputy and now is a sergeant. That was a white/white crime. Not news worthy.
Glad I didn't resist arrest.

Sent from my evil, kitten eating cell phone.

Redrose
04-08-2015, 02:53 AM
Glad I didn't resist arrest.

Sent from my evil, kitten eating cell phone.


I'm glad too.

I've been a police spouse for over 46 years, and I'm still nervous when I'm stopped. I am polite, and obey happily. If something is inappropriate, I'll report it later. That's the best and safest thing to do.

Most cops are good decent family men/women. But unfortunately there are bad apples. We have no way of knowing which one is the bad egg, or a good cop who makes a split second bad decision. We have to remember they don't know us, or what we have done or are capable of doing.

I want to go home, not the morgue.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 07:16 AM
Wow ... based on the number of times I'm personally called out in this Thread, you'd think it would have drawn some administrative attention, and you'd think someone personally wants some of Cigar? :laugh:

I bet they're just blowing Smoke.

Well ... what's you're bet? :grin:

Game On :wink:

exotix
04-08-2015, 07:18 AM
The guy was a fleeing felon and should have been shot. Failing to shoot fleeing felons is the main reason there are so many high speed police chases that kill innocent people.
He was ?

Got the link to that ?

Safety
04-08-2015, 07:19 AM
He was ?

Got the link to that ?

Some people just look at the title and assign guilt instead of actually reading the article.

exotix
04-08-2015, 07:20 AM
It happens, but the news usually ignores it.

A deputy in our area in Fl. shot a man in his car 13 times in the head. The man had an altercation with his wife and left in his car to cool down. The cops were looking for him because the wife had visable bruising. This young deputy finds him and husband doesn't feel like talking and wanted to drive away. The deputy ordered him to stop, he refused and started to drive away. The deputy opened fire and killed him. Some shots were in the back of his head. Bad shoot in my book. He said the husband tried to hit him with the car. Grand jury agreed. He went free. Still a deputy and now is a sergeant. That was a white/white crime. Not news worthy.
'Murder of a man even in war is still murder'

~ Baron Von Richthofen shortly before he too was shot and killed

Cigar
04-08-2015, 07:29 AM
He was ?

Got the link to that ?

The SC Fleeing Felon Law was sited yesterday and quickly put to rest immediately by real LEGAL EXPERTS

Funny how no one is siting the number of shots taken (8) or the number of shots that found the target (5); 15 to 25 feet away or the obvious coverup by retrieving the Taser and dropping it near the body by their Hero :laugh:

Before Secret Video Was Revealed, This Was The Official Police Statement on Walter Scott Murder:
http://i0.huffpost.com/gen/2811702/images/n-NORTH-CHARLESTON-SHOOTING-large.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCBoDrbWMAI_EcA.jpg
http://www.abcnews4.com/story/28725562/coroner-identifies-man-shot-killed-by-north-charleston-police-officer

exotix
04-08-2015, 07:32 AM
The SC Fleeing Felon Law was sited yesterday and quickly put to rest immediately by real LEGAL EXPERTS

Funny how no one is siting the number of shots taken (8) or the number of shots that found the target (5); 15 to 25 feet away or the obvious coverup by retrieving the Taser and dropping it near the body by their Hero :laugh:

Before Secret Video Was Revealed, This Was The Official Police Statement on Walter Scott Murder:


http://i0.huffpost.com/gen/2811702/images/n-NORTH-CHARLESTON-SHOOTING-large.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCBoDrbWMAI_EcA.jpg
http://www.abcnews4.com/story/28725562/coroner-identifies-man-shot-killed-by-north-charleston-police-officer
This is Lindsey Graham's state ... who still tells the same lies of Iraq.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 07:36 AM
Some people just look at the title and assign guilt instead of actually reading the article.

Once again, I would be surly saying the same thing as you, but this is happening at rate that even Steve Wonder could see a mile away.

Look, you I both know we would be talking about Autopsies and Charging Black Man theories and any one of a hundred excuses today if there wasn't a Video showing what really happened.

The Man was Executed because he didn't "comply" and he knocked a Taser out of the hands of a Cop ... AFTER he got TASED! Then the Cop got mad and issued a "charge", "trial", "jury" and "execution". Does this sound familiar?

Safety
04-08-2015, 07:40 AM
The SC Fleeing Felon Law was sited yesterday and quickly put to rest immediately by real LEGAL EXPERTS

Funny how no one is siting the number of shots taken (8) or the number of shots that found the target (5); 15 to 25 feet away or the obvious coverup by retrieving the Taser and dropping it near the body by their Hero :laugh:

Before Secret Video Was Revealed, This Was The Official Police Statement on Walter Scott Murder:
http://i0.huffpost.com/gen/2811702/images/n-NORTH-CHARLESTON-SHOOTING-large.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCBoDrbWMAI_EcA.jpg
http://www.abcnews4.com/story/28725562/coroner-identifies-man-shot-killed-by-north-charleston-police-officer

Several posts in this thread are the reason why cameras should be used 100% of the time by law enforcement. Some people will just find an excuse to justify their bias whenever a case like this is presented. If there was no video evidence, there would have been a snowball chance in hell that anybody would believe the officer acted improperly.

Safety
04-08-2015, 07:41 AM
Once again, I would be surly saying the same thing as you, but this is happening at rate that even Steve Wonder could see a mile away.

Look, you I both know we would be talking about Autopsies and Charging Black Man theories and any one of a hundred excuses today if there wasn't a Video showing what really happened.

The Man was Executed because he didn't "comply" and he knocked a Taser out of the hands of a Cop ... AFTER he got TASED! Then the Cop got mad and issued a "charge", "trial", "jury" and "execution". Does this sound familiar?

You are correct, I bet there will be some that will try to say the victim was actually the cop because he feared for his life.

Beevee
04-08-2015, 07:44 AM
OK, so now you know that when it's not a good shoot, the policeman will be punished to the full extent of the law.

So STFU about the rest.

So you have no concerns about the cop's partner who evidently did not report what actually happened, since it happened a few days ago and the report would be in the hands of his superior by this time?

Cigar
04-08-2015, 08:01 AM
So you have no concerns about the cop's partner who evidently did not report what actually happened, since it happened a few days ago and the report would be in the hands of his superior by this time?

Trust me ... they won't go near that because it doesn't support their BS over the last couple years. :wink:

Cigar
04-08-2015, 08:02 AM
Several posts in this thread are the reason why cameras should be used 100% of the time by law enforcement. Some people will just find an excuse to justify their bias whenever a case like this is presented. If there was no video evidence, there would have been a snowball chance in hell that anybody would believe the officer acted improperly.

The Camera need to be the type that can't be turned off or wink wink wink ... forgotten to be turned on :wink:

Safety
04-08-2015, 08:03 AM
The Camera need to be the type that can't be turned off or wink wink wink ... forgotten to be turned on :wink:

Absolutely.

exotix
04-08-2015, 08:05 AM
Cop looks to be facing the Death Penalty


Police Officer Michael Slager Appears Before Judge via Videolink


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/walter-scott-shooting/michael-slager-south-carolina-officer-charged-murder-black-man-n337526

Video Inside

http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Video/__NEW/x_lon_slager_150408.nbcnews-video-reststate-854.jpg

Safety
04-08-2015, 08:09 AM
It will be interesting to know if a gofundme site has been created for his defense.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 08:14 AM
lol @ the MSM.

"A white police officer... fatally shooting a black father of four"

The MSM is this pathetic because of the idiocy of it's target demographic.

PolWatch
04-08-2015, 08:16 AM
Nothing can undo what happened. The only comfort the family has is that the police department is acting appropriately in this case. It will prove to those few bad officers out there that this is not something they can get away with. Cameras are wonderful things.

Safety
04-08-2015, 08:16 AM
lol @ the MSM.

"A white police officer... fatally shooting a black father of four"

The MSM is this pathetic because of the idiocy of it's target demographic.

Looking past the low hanging fruit, does it take away from the situation of corrupt cops that committed murder?

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 08:18 AM
This cop needs a good lawyer.

From the article it looks like the "victim" wasn't wholly without negligence. This is what happens when you deal with low-lives. I would whore myself out to lepers before I took a job as a cop. It's a lose/lose situation.

Just eliminate the police forces, people can stock up on guns and ammo and defend themselves.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 08:19 AM
Looking past the low hanging fruit, does it take away from the situation of corrupt cops that committed murder?

Close all the police forces down, that's my recommendation.

PolWatch
04-08-2015, 08:21 AM
This cop needs a good lawyer.

From the article it looks like the "victim" wasn't wholly without negligence. This is what happens when you deal with low-lives. I would whore myself out to lepers before I took a job as a cop. It's a lose/lose situation.

Just eliminate the police forces, people can stock up on guns and ammo and defend themselves.

Are you saying that a cop is justified to execute someone for back child support?

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 08:21 AM
Considering that a very large proportion of the black population will be committing crimes and considering most cops are white, this is going to happen every time there's an incident.

There is no solution here other than just letting the thugs and criminals have free reign.

Adelaide
04-08-2015, 08:23 AM
The media needs to get a new angle. I'm not even reading the OP.

Recently there was a shooting near me where a man with a knife was shot and killed by police. It's something like the sixth time police have had to discharge their weapons in about 40 years of serving the community. It's a bit different that our local news is covering it so thoroughly. I have yet to see a national news outlet pump the crap out of the story to get readers into a frenzy.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 08:24 AM
Are you saying that a cop is justified to execute someone for back child support?

No, I'm saying that this dude was probably a piece of shit. Who knows what actually happened, maybe he did make a threatening move. Running from a traffic stop is a questionable tactic also.

What I'm saying is that this is just another race baiting "white cop shoots black guy" topic and the witch hunt is now on. I feel for this guy to be honest and that's my point. Considering that a high proportion of crime is committed by a high proportion of black people, every time a white cop shoots a black thug there will be a witch hunt.

Just shut the fucking police forces down, give them all desk jobs. Let the thugs run amok, just stock up on ammo and guns, you're on your own.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 08:25 AM
Are you saying that a cop is justified to execute someone for back child support?

Don't bother, he's not worth the argument.

All their excuses are slowly getting exposed for what they really are ... Change always has it critics, until they're dead and gone.

Safety
04-08-2015, 08:25 AM
Close all the police forces down, that's my recommendation.

I think you are overreacting on what the situation is. The suspect ran from a traffic stop, and while pursuing the suspect the officer fired into his back. The officer then planted a taser and stated that the suspect tried to take his taser that's why he was shot. His partner collaborated his story and if it wasn't for the video from a cellphone, this case would never have seen the light of day.

The race aspect just plays to the lowest common denominator, but that is the MO of the media nowadays.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 08:26 AM
The media needs to get a new angle. I'm not even reading the OP.

Recently there was a shooting near me where a man with a knife was shot and killed by police. It's something like the sixth time police have had to discharge their weapons in about 40 years of serving the community. It's a bit different that our local news is covering it so thoroughly. I have yet to see a national news outlet pump the crap out of the story to get readers into a frenzy.

Yep ... It's probably best you run away from this one ... :wink:

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 08:26 AM
Are you saying that a cop is justified to execute someone for back child support?

The cop did not know the criminal history of the man.

What is the mental defect of so many black people that causes them to fight with the police?

Safety
04-08-2015, 08:27 AM
Considering that a very large proportion of the black population will be committing crimes and considering most cops are white, this is going to happen every time there's an incident.

There is no solution here other than just letting the thugs and criminals have free reign.

There is a solution, using cameras.

Safety
04-08-2015, 08:27 AM
The cop did not know the criminal history of the man.

What is the mental defect of so many black people that causes them to fight with the police?

History Mac, freaking history.

Bo-4
04-08-2015, 08:27 AM
Yep, if there'd been no video, this would have gone down like any other police shooting of a black man.

He reached for my shit.. and i feared for my life. Boom, no charges.

Running back to plant the stun was especially good. Wonder if the cop who appeared to arrive on the scene right about then crossed the thin blue line and told the truth?

Finally, kudos to the vid kid (sounds like he or she was very young). First of all, pretty brave to stand there and take it. He had to be thinking "WTF, if that guy sees me i'm dead". Plus, very classy move to give it to the family. And i don't blame him a bit for not giving it to the cops or two some big media outlet. They're not that great with secrets. Police retaliation is a beotch. I would have had the same fear.

PolWatch
04-08-2015, 08:28 AM
I suspect if there had been 6 incidents in 40 years, we would not be hearing about it either. I don't see any way to justify shooting a man in the back 8 times who was fleeing over a broken tail-light stop. The excuse of being afraid doesn't exactly fly in this case....unless the cop was afraid the fleeing man had magical powers & could zap him while running in the opposite direction.

Adelaide
04-08-2015, 08:29 AM
Yep ... It's probably best you run away from this one ... :wink:

It's not running away to get sick of seeing the media entertain and perpetrate a race war that doesn't exist or exist to the extent they'd like to sell it. Every day is a new story about a white cop shooting a black citizen. I bet the people writing these articles have mini-seizures when it's a black cop. How can they spin it?

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 08:29 AM
History Mac, freaking history.

The black guy would be alive today if he had respect for the law.

Bo-4
04-08-2015, 08:31 AM
This cop needs a good lawyer.

From the article it looks like the "victim" wasn't wholly without negligence. This is what happens when you deal with low-lives. I would whore myself out to lepers before I took a job as a cop. It's a lose/lose situation.

Just eliminate the police forces, people can stock up on guns and ammo and defend themselves.

LOW LIFES? Dude, this guy was 50 years old, had a nice family, and was driving a Mercedes with a tail light out. Cops hate seeing big black dudes in nice cars.

Since there's no thumbs down button.. i'll paste one. ;-)

https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1403563847/10110193.gif

exotix
04-08-2015, 08:31 AM
No, I'm saying that this dude was probably a piece of $#@!. Who knows what actually happened, maybe he did make a threatening move. Running from a traffic stop is a questionable tactic also.

What I'm saying is that this is just another race baiting "white cop shoots black guy" topic and the witch hunt is now on. I feel for this guy to be honest and that's my point. Considering that a high proportion of crime is committed by a high proportion of black people, every time a white cop shoots a black thug there will be a witch hunt.

Just shut the $#@!ing police forces down, give them all desk jobs. Let the thugs run amok, just stock up on ammo and guns, you're on your own.
The cop did not know the criminal history of the man.

What is the mental defect of so many black people that causes them to fight with the police?
The black guy would be alive today if he had respect for the law.What did you think about the cop planting evidence, altering the crime scene and both the cops lying about the incident and stating they tried to resuscitate the man ... further, yelling at a corpse to put his hands behind his back then cuffing a corpse ?

Adelaide
04-08-2015, 08:31 AM
There is a solution, using cameras.

I agree that body cameras should be used. Unfortunately, I don't think that all police forces are going to have enough funding to invest in it. If it's suggested that the federal government help those forces then we'll never hear the end of the waste of money. But definitely the larger metro police forces, where you're more likely to have shootings with police involved, body cameras should in theory be a possibility with a larger budget and more assistance from state and federal sources.

PolWatch
04-08-2015, 08:32 AM
The cop would be out of jail & on the job if he had respect for human life.

Safety
04-08-2015, 08:36 AM
It's not running away to get sick of seeing the media entertain and perpetrate a race war that doesn't exist or exist to the extent they'd like to sell it. Every day is a new story about a white cop shooting a black citizen. I bet the people writing these articles have mini-seizures when it's a black cop. How can they spin it?

It's playing to people's emotions. The loser here is blacks and cops, for there will be sides taken on who is right and who is wrong.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 08:37 AM
LOW LIFES? Dude, this guy was 50 years old, had a nice family, and was driving a Mercedes with a tail light out. Cops hate seeing big black dudes in nice cars.

Since there's no thumbs down button.. i'll past one. ;-)

https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1403563847/10110193.gif

Standard race-baiting lingo, "black guy in a Mercedes".

Salt of the earth, I'm sure his kids and their well being think the same thing.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 08:39 AM
This guy was a roach, anyone who drives a Mercedes and skips out on supporting his family is a piece of shit.

Having said that I don't believe that deserves a death sentence, I just don't agree with the village idiots waiving torches and pitchforks at the MSM's direction.

Adelaide
04-08-2015, 08:41 AM
It's playing to people's emotions. The loser here is blacks and cops, for there will be sides taken on who is right and who is wrong.

I agree. The media is serving up a nice dish to people who have absolutely no stake in the game, and those that do suffer the consequences of a media determined to make a race war out of every incident. There is obviously a fairly systemic problem in terms of police brutality and/or incidents of law enforcement having to discharge their weapons whether correctly or incorrectly. All the media is doing is throwing gasoline on a fire. It focuses so intensely on a problem but makes it about race, and you don't see many publications come up with possible solutions. Quite frankly, when you make it about race there isn't really a solution but when you focus on it as a general issue facing law enforcement there are possible solutions to consider such as body cameras or more in-depth investigating and oversight of police departments.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 08:41 AM
The black guy would be alive today if he had respect for the law.

Tell me ... why did the Cop deserve respect? He showed zero respect and zero Integrity for the Job and his fellow officers when lied and covered up not doing his Job. He took no responsibility for his actions and The Law and no accountability as a State Public Servant.

My father was a Cop for more than a decade, he respected people and showed them respect, therefore he earned respect from the public. His badge didn't immediately earn him respect, his actions as an individual and as a Public Servant earned him respect. He knowledge of the Law and Professionalism for the Department earned him respect.

He RESPECTED the POWER and PURPOSE of The Department and THE LAW.

Adelaide
04-08-2015, 08:44 AM
This guy was a roach, anyone who drives a Mercedes and skips out on supporting his family is a piece of shit.

Having said that I don't believe that deserves a death sentence, I just don't agree with the village idiots waiving torches and pitchforks at the MSM's direction.

You don't see the problem with US media purposely throwing gas on a fire to the point that they often miss the actual facts of the situation(s) and merely stir people up? They're so quick to report these incidents and make them out to be acts of racism before they even know any details of the case. They publicly convict the police officer before there is even the opportunity to actually know any of the facts.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 08:45 AM
It's playing to people's emotions. The loser here is blacks and cops, for there will be sides taken on who is right and who is wrong.

This didn't happen over night, this has been building for decades and it's NOW just the beginning of the END of this type Law Enforcement.

Yea that's right, Change will come, and by any means necessary ... but Change will Come.

Yea ... People are going to die, but that's always been the case. But now Balance is going to be applied to reality.

Safety
04-08-2015, 08:48 AM
This guy was a roach, anyone who drives a Mercedes and skips out on supporting his family is a piece of shit.

Having said that I don't believe that deserves a death sentence, I just don't agree with the village idiots waiving torches and pitchforks at the MSM's direction.

It's hard to have a conversation when it gets tainted from the inception.

If the title was "Officer charged with murder after shooting suspect in back while fleeing" would draw a much better response I think.

exotix
04-08-2015, 08:52 AM
You don't see the problem with US media purposely throwing gas on a fire to the point that they often miss the actual facts of the situation(s) and merely stir people up? They're so quick to report these incidents and make them out to be acts of racism before they even know any details of the case. They publicly convict the police officer before there is even the opportunity to actually know any of the facts.
The cop shot the Bro 8 times in the back ... maybe you saw something different than the rest of the world.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 08:55 AM
Tell me ... why did the Cop deserve respect? He showed zero respect and zero Integrity for the Job and his fellow officers when lied and covered up not doing his Job. He took no responsibility for his actions and The Law and no accountability as a State Public Servant.

My father was a Cop for more than a decade, he respected people and showed them respect, therefore he earned respect from the public. His badge didn't immediately earn him respect, his actions as an individual and as a Public Servant earned him respect. He knowledge of the Law and Professionalism for the Department earned him respect.

He RESPECTED the POWER and PURPOSE of The Department and THE LAW.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What did the black guy hope to accomplish by scuffling with the cop and running away?

Chances are the car was registered to him and even if he evaded capture that day he loses his ride.

And he faces arrest the next time he comes to the law's attention.

These are stupid people who are just looking for trouble.

Blacks who interact with the cops in a civilized manner have nothing to fear.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 08:56 AM
You don't see the problem with US media purposely throwing gas on a fire to the point that they often miss the actual facts of the situation(s) and merely stir people up? They're so quick to report these incidents and make them out to be acts of racism before they even know any details of the case. They publicly convict the police officer before there is even the opportunity to actually know any of the facts.

My Brother in Law is a Divorce Lawyer, and I Guarantee you, Cap doesn't want to know the truth about Divorce Laws and Child Support.

Sure The Media back these stories Headlines ... but the fact that it's old news when a Cop fires his Gun 8 time at someone moving away from them is no longer a shocking should tell you something. If an individuals hear is so cold, that they are indifferent to "public executions", but "angered" that these public executions are being reported, should also tell you something about us as a Nation. We really don't care about human life, so don't be surprised when people who have nothing to loose, act like that way.

Even after all the Media Attention of Unarmed Black Men being executed in broad daylight ... it hasn't stopped the 'Public Execution' of Black Men being shot several times in broad daylight.

I don't want it to happen, but trust me ... one way or another, this is going to end back for Cops in the future.

PolWatch
04-08-2015, 09:01 AM
I would rather race not be the main issue in this discussion because it diverts attention from what I think is the issue that effects everyone. We have veterans who admit that the rules regarding policing procedures in a war zone are stricter than in this nation. We have accepted the militarization of our police forces and they seem have to acquired instant execution powers.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:04 AM
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What did the black guy hope to accomplish by scuffling with the cop and running away?

Chances are the car was registered to him and even if he evaded capture that day he loses his ride.

And he faces arrest the next time he comes to the law's attention.

These are stupid people who are just looking for trouble.

Blacks who interact with the cops in a civilized manner have nothing to fear.

Just think of it ... not a broken tail light, but a "bulb" out in a tail light. Most Cops I know, simply pull up next to you as a public service to inform you that you have a light out in back. After all, hasn't anything like that ever happen to anyone here on this forum? :huh:

I think the only thing less threatening is flicking a cigaret butt out the window. :rollseyes:

Lastly ... keep in mind, 8 shots fired from less that 25 feet ... 4 of those bullet went into the body,1 grazed the ear, and 3 totally missed a went down range toward hell knows who!

Are you sure you want to defend those actions of a Police Officer?

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:05 AM
I would rather race not be the main issue in this discussion because it diverts attention from what I think is the issue that effects everyone. We have veterans who admit that the rules regarding policing procedures in a war zone are stricter than in this nation. We have accepted the militarization of our police forces and they seem have to acquired instant execution powers.

I agree ...even if you want to take RACE completely out of this conversation ... what exactly are people here trying to defend?

Really ...

SoonToBe2LT
04-08-2015, 09:06 AM
I would rather race not be the main issue in this discussion because it diverts attention from what I think is the issue that effects everyone. We have veterans who admit that the rules regarding policing procedures in a war zone are stricter than in this nation. We have accepted the militarization of our police forces and they seem have to acquired instant execution powers.

Police policies and procedures adapt to the nature of crime. Unfortunately, when you have growing Mexican cartel gangs acquiring military grade weaponry from numerous nations, the police must then adapt. That's just one example.

Unless of course the police should be unarmed, and the military should handle violent crime. Martial Law ? :-)

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:07 AM
Just think of it ... not a broken tail light, but a "bulb" out in a tail light. Most Cops I know, simply pull up next to you as a public service to inform you that you have a light out in back. After all, hasn't anything like that ever happen to anyone here on this forum? :huh:

I think the only thing less threatening is flicking a cigaret butt out the window. :rollseyes:

Lastly ... keep in mind, 8 shots fired from less that 25 feet ... 4 of those bullet went into the body,1 grazed the ear, and 3 totally missed a went down range toward hell knows who!

Are you sure you want to defend those actions of a Police Officer?

I asked you a question that you failed to answer.

What did the black guy hope to accomplish by fighting and running away from the cop over a tail lite?

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:14 AM
I asked you a question that you failed to answer.

What did the black guy hope to accomplish by fighting and running away from the cop over a tail lite?

How the Fuck am I to know what an individual I've never met nor will meet want to accomplish :rollseyes:

I didn't know his Belt or Shoe size either, so what the Fuck does that have to do with what your EYES seen on the VIDEO ... or are you Blind.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:17 AM
How the $#@! am I to know what an individual I've never met nor will meet want to accomplish :rollseyes:

I didn't know his Belt or Shoe size either, so what the $#@! does that have to do with what your EYES seen on the VIDEO ... or are you Blind.



Any reasonable person would sign the ticket and that would be the end of the story.

Black people are engaging in very reckless and irresponsible behavior.

Safety
04-08-2015, 09:20 AM
Any reasonable person would sign the ticket and that would be the end of the story.

Black people are engaging in very reckless and irresponsible behavior.

As does many other races. If this article was about a white person running from the cop and was shot in the back, would you make that same statement?

Don't answer, it's rhetorical.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:22 AM
Any reasonable person would sign the ticket and that would be the end of the story.

Black people are engaging in very reckless and irresponsible behavior.

And I think they are being encouraged by race baiters such as Obama.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:25 AM
As does many other races. If this article was about a white person running from the cop and was shot in the back, would you make that same statement?



No one on the left would care because race is their hangup and only blacks count with them.

And conservatives would still ask why the driver was so stupid to fight with the cops and then run away?

So if the dead guy was white no one on either side would care what happened to him.

exotix
04-08-2015, 09:25 AM
Police policies and procedures adapt to the nature of crime. Unfortunately, when you have growing Mexican cartel gangs acquiring military grade weaponry from numerous nations, the police must then adapt. That's just one example.

Unless of course the police should be unarmed, and the military should handle violent crime. Martial Law ? :-)

Here, it appears a black father of 4 disguised himself as a mexican cartel member and was dumb enough go out with a broken tail-light.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:26 AM
Any reasonable person would sign the ticket and that would be the end of the story.

Black people are engaging in very reckless and irresponsible behavior.

If you think a 50 year old man running away is reckless, irresponsible and a severe threat to your life ... just wait. :wink:

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:29 AM
If you think a 50 year old man running away is reckless, irresponsible and a severe threat to your life ... just wait. :wink:

He physically resisted the cop before running away.

How many times have you done that?

Safety
04-08-2015, 09:29 AM
No one on the left would care because race is their hangup.

And conservatives would still ask why the driver was so stupid to fight with the cops and then run away?

So if the dead guy was white no one on either side would care what happened to him.

Since you decided to answer, let's try it again...


As does many other races. If this article was about a white person running from the cop and was shot in the back, would you make that same statement?


Would you make the same statement, Mac-7?

SoonToBe2LT
04-08-2015, 09:30 AM
Here, it appears a black father of 4 disguised himself as a mexican cartel member and was dumb enough go out with a broken tail-light.

Here, I think THIS officer should be in prison for life. We're talking USA, not this incident. Did you see the comment I responded to? I suggest reading that first, then re-posting :-)

Safety
04-08-2015, 09:30 AM
Here, it appears a black father of 4 disguised himself as a mexican cartel member and was dumb enough go out with a broken tail-light.

Unfettering justification knows no bounds, even in the light of sounding ridiculous....

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:30 AM
Police policies and procedures adapt to the nature of crime. Unfortunately, when you have growing Mexican cartel gangs acquiring military grade weaponry from numerous nations, the police must then adapt. That's just one example.

Unless of course the police should be unarmed, and the military should handle violent crime. Martial Law ? :-)

Let's try to keep things into it's proper perspective ...

This Thread is about a Tail Light Bulb being out ... and a 50 year of Unarmed Man running away, who survived 3 of the 8 bullets fired at him. Unfortunately for him, the Cop was able to get 5 of the 8 to hit him from less that 25 feet ... in THE BACK.

Yea ... a Tail Light Bulb

SoonToBe2LT
04-08-2015, 09:32 AM
Let's try to keep things into it's proper perspective ...

This Thread is about a Tail Light Bulb being out ... and a 50 year of Unarmed Man running away, who survived 3 of the 8 bullets fired at him. Unfortunately for him, the Cop was able to get 5 of the 8 to hit him from less that 25 feet ... in THE BACK.

Yea ... a Tail Light Bulb

Hey, no disagreement from me. This officer committed murder.

Interesting how you call me out for being off topic, yet the person who I responded to (posted before me) made an off topic post that wasn't about tail lights.

What are your thoughts on that?

PolWatch
04-08-2015, 09:32 AM
some of the arguments here are a perfect example of why race should not be the main issue here. The issue is does a cop have the right or the need to shoot a fleeing man in the back 8 times....for a non-violent misdemeanor? It doesn't matter if the people involved are purple with yellow stripes.....do we live in a police state or don't we?

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:33 AM
Would you make the same statement, @Mac-7 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1014)?

As I have already explained, I have no more sympathy for stupid white people than stupid blacks.

So my answer would be the same.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:33 AM
Hey, no disagreement from me. This officer committed murder.

Interesting how you call me out for being off topic, yet the person who I responded to (posted before me) made an off topic post that wasn't about tail lights.

What are your thoughts on that?

Sorry my Forum Admin Skills are slipping ... maybe I should leave it to them to keep people on topic. :grin:

Safety
04-08-2015, 09:35 AM
As I have already explained, I have no more sympathy for stupid white people than stupid blacks.

So my answer would be the same.

I seriously doubt it, but if you say so. Do you think the officer in this case overreacted?

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:35 AM
As I have already explained, I have no more sympathy for stupid white people than stupid blacks.

So my answer would be the same.

You will have my Full Support, when Black Cops start Executing Stupid White People for minor traffic stops ... when that starts happening. :wink:

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:37 AM
some of the arguments here are a perfect example of why race should not be the main issue here. The issue is does a cop have the right or the need to shoot a fleeing man in the back 8 times....for a non-violent misdemeanor? It doesn't matter if the people involved are purple with yellow stripes.....do we live in a police state or don't we?

We do not live in a police state yet but obumer is working on it.

I asked cigar and he didn't know so maybe you can tell us.

What is the logic of fighting with a cop over a tail light and then running away?

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:39 AM
I seriously doubt it, but if you say so. Do you think the officer in this case overreacted?

Im not hung up on race like you and cigar and obumer are.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:40 AM
You will have my Full Support, when Black Cops start Executing Stupid White People for minor traffic stops ... when that starts happening. :wink:

This typical black person was not shot for a tail lite.

He was shot for fighting with the police.

Safety
04-08-2015, 09:41 AM
Im not hung up on race like you and cigar and obumer are.

.....

The question was "Do you think the officer in this case overreacted"?

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:43 AM
Do you think the officer in this case overreacted?

I don't know.

But based only on the video he may have.

Thats why its a bad idea to be stupid and fight with the police.

I have gotten traffic tickets but I never punched out the cop.

Have you?

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:43 AM
This typical black person was not shot for a tail lite.

He was shot for fighting with the police.

Ok you say he was shot for fighting with the police ... well he's now Charged with Murder, apparently this Cop Commanding Officer thinks different.

Let see what a Jury of his peers thinks.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:45 AM
.....

The question was "Do you think the officer in this case overreacted"?

Now I'll ask you.

Do you think this typical black guy was shot for no reason other than his race?

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:45 AM
I don't know.

But based only on the video he may have.

Thats why its a bad idea to be stupid and fight with the police.

I have gotten traffic tickets but I never punched out the cop.

Have you?

Now it's my turn; so you have evidence a punch was given? :huh:

I saw a man knock a Taser out of the hands of a Cop; "after getting Tased", then Run away.

Did you see something different?

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:46 AM
Ok you say he was shot for fighting with the police ... well he's now Charged with Murder, apparently this Cop Commanding Officer thinks different.

Let see what a Jury of his peers thinks.

Yes, let the black race baiters take a vacation instead of whipping up more emotion.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:47 AM
Now I'll ask you.

Do you think this typical black guy was shot for no reason other than his race?

Why do you keep saying typical black guy?

Did you know him?

PolWatch
04-08-2015, 09:47 AM
how was he fighting with the cop? he was at least 20 ft in front of the cop when he was shot. Btw: if anyone thinks this is a racial incident, what color was the second cop in the video when he was planting the taser on the victim?

Safety
04-08-2015, 09:47 AM
I don't know.

But based only on the video he may have.

Thats why its a bad idea to be stupid and fight with the police.

I have gotten traffic tickets but I never punched out the cop.

Have you?

I have never said anything about condoning fighting with the police. Sometimes you don't have to fight with the police for them to shoot you, sometimes you just have to follow what they tell you and you get shot for your efforts.


https://youtu.be/LaaeXIg9kSk

Maybe SC just needs to get better training for their officers.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:48 AM
Now it's my turn; so you have evidence a punch was given? :huh:

I saw a man knock a Taser out of the hands of a Cop; "after getting Tased", then Run away.

Did you see something different?

You did not see what happened before the video started so you really know very little.

Safety
04-08-2015, 09:48 AM
Now I'll ask you.

Do you think this typical black guy was shot for no reason other than his race?

I think the guy was shot because the officer didn't feel like running.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:50 AM
Why do you keep saying typical black guy?

Did you know him?

Because I assume that most blacks fight with the police rather than peacefully accept the ticket.

Otherwise this black person was acting abnormally.

Which is it?

SoonToBe2LT
04-08-2015, 09:50 AM
.....

The question was "Do you think the officer in this case overreacted"?

I do. I think he overreacted and will likely be convicted. Rightfully so.

But this isn't some race BS that the OP is making it out to be. It's a cop that DIDN'T revert to his training. Instead of radioing in a suspect on foot, he just decided to shoot.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:51 AM
You did not see what happened before the video started so you really know very little.

Correct ... but EVERYTHING I did see didn't justify an Public Execution.

How about you, did you see any that justified a Public Execution?

Cigar
04-08-2015, 09:52 AM
Because I assume that most blacks fight with the police rather than peacefully accept the ticket.

Otherwise this black person was acting abnormally.

Which is it?

Well coming for a Typical White Guy, what do you think?

Do you think 40 Million Black People fight with Police?

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:52 AM
how was he fighting with the cop? he was at least 20 ft in front of the cop when he was shot. Btw: if anyone thinks this is a racial incident, what color was the second cop in the video when he was planting the taser on the victim?

How did he get so far away from the car he was driving?

Most traffic stops involve the police being closer than 20 feet to the person they stopped.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 09:54 AM
Well coming for a Typical White Guy, what do you think?

Do you think 40 Million Black People fight with Police?

I asked you first.

Was the black guy acting normally for a black person stopped for a traffic violation?

SoonToBe2LT
04-08-2015, 09:58 AM
Correct ... but EVERYTHING I did see didn't justify an Public Execution.

How about you, did you see any that justified a Public Execution?

Correct. But in all fairness, we should wait for ALL of the facts came out. Remember the "hands up don't shoot" idiots? They thought Brown actually did that. When the FACTS came out, it was the complete opposite. He was an attempted murderer who was justifiably shot.

But looking at this video, it seems this man will be convicted.

Bo-4
04-08-2015, 10:00 AM
Standard race-baiting lingo, "black guy in a Mercedes".

Salt of the earth, I'm sure his kids and their well being think the same thing.

It's absolutely a fact. Racist cops will ALWAYS find a reason to pull over a black dude driving a nice car. Gotta be a pimp or a drug dealer right?

You probably forgot about the big black dude with no criminal record driving a nice white caddy only a couple of weeks ago. Retired from GM in Detroit after 37 years. Remember now?

Cop beat him bloody, planted cocaine under his front seat.. He tested negatory for drugs.

My offer's still open: You drive around nice neighborhoods in a sweet car for 3 or 4 nights ... in blackface.

If you survive, i'll pay for the car rental and pay you $50 an hour. ;-)

Cigar
04-08-2015, 10:01 AM
I have never said anything about condoning fighting with the police. Sometimes you don't have to fight with the police for them to shoot you, sometimes you just have to follow what they tell you and you get shot for your efforts.


https://youtu.be/LaaeXIg9kSk

Maybe SC just needs to get better training for their officers.

Look yet another Threat to Life.

I'm thinking there should be a minimum ball measurement criteria to be a Cop.

When I was growing up, Cops weren't so easily scared. :rollseyes:

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 10:04 AM
It's absolutely a fact. Racist cops will ALWAYS find a reason to pull over a black dude driving a nice car. Gotta be a pimp or a drug dealer right?

You probably forgot about the big black dude with no criminal record driving a nice white caddy only a couple of weeks ago. Retired from GM in Detroit after 37 years. Remember now?

Cop beat him bloody, planted cocaine under his front seat.. He tested negatory for drugs.

My offer's still open: You drive around nice neighborhoods in a sweet car for 3 or 4 nights ... in blackface.

If you survive, i'll pay for the car rental and pay you $50 an hour. ;-)

I would take that bet but since its just cheap grandstanding I know you'd renege and not pay off.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 10:05 AM
Correct. But in all fairness, we should wait for ALL of the facts came out. Remember the "hands up don't shoot" idiots? They thought Brown actually did that. When the FACTS came out, it was the complete opposite. He was an attempted murderer who was justifiably shot.

But looking at this video, it seems this man will be convicted.

Yea and he Charged the Officer.:rollseyes:

We'd all be saying the same thing today, if there wasn't a Video. Remember, the Cop reported that his Taser was taken ... then we all saw him plant the taser next the dead body.

Even after a Live Video, we're still looking to justify this officers action.

Yea .... it's a Public Execution ... But .... :tongue:

Face it, this Cop got flat busted ...

SoonToBe2LT
04-08-2015, 10:07 AM
Yea and he Charged the Officer.:rollseyes:

We'd all be saying the same thing today, if there wasn't a Video. Remember, the Cop reported that his Taser was taken ... then we all saw him plant the taser next the dead body.

Even after a Live Video, we're still looking to justify this officers action.

Yea .... it's a Public Execution ... But .... :tongue:

Face it, this Cop got flat busted ...

At what point are you under the impression that I'm disagreeing with you on that notion?

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 10:08 AM
This typical black person would be alive today if he had respect for the law.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 10:15 AM
At what point are you under the impression that I'm disagreeing with you on that notion?

I'm making an addition to your point

Cigar
04-08-2015, 10:17 AM
This typical black person would be alive today if he had respect for the law.

This typical white cop wouldn't be charged with murder if he had respect for the law, the law enforcement position and the power an faith intrusted in him by the taxpayers and the people of SC. :wink:

I'm sure he'll have a quality life.

SoonToBe2LT
04-08-2015, 10:20 AM
This typical black person would be alive today if he had respect for the law.

True, technically. But I hold the same feeling for ALL people that don't respect the law. Some white hippie was killed right by where I went to college because he refused to give the officer his pot. When the officer arrested him he panicked and grabbed the officer's gun. He was then shot by the cop.

I don't feel sorry for that idiot. You OBEY they law and you won't get shot. Don't run from police. Don't argue with police. If you have a problem, TAKE IT TO COURT. Had this man not run from the police officer, he'd likely still be alive.

HOWEVER, I am not justifying the officer in question, as I believe it's pretty clear he committed murder. I'm just relaying your point that the events that lead up to the murder, could have saved the black man's life.

Lesson? If a cop pulls you over, just obey all orders given. If you disagree, take it to court. DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID.

Safety
04-08-2015, 10:29 AM
True, technically. But I hold the same feeling for ALL people that don't respect the law. Some white hippie was killed right by where I went to college because he refused to give the officer his pot. When the officer arrested him he panicked and grabbed the officer's gun. He was then shot by the cop.

I don't feel sorry for that idiot. You OBEY they law and you won't get shot. Don't run from police. Don't argue with police. If you have a problem, TAKE IT TO COURT. Had this man not run from the police officer, he'd likely still be alive.

HOWEVER, I am not justifying the officer in question, as I believe it's pretty clear he committed murder. I'm just relaying your point that the events that lead up to the murder, could have saved the black man's life.

Lesson? If a cop pulls you over, just obey all orders given. If you disagree, take it to court. DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID.

I agree, however the discussion isn't whether or not the guy was murdered, obviously he was, the discussion is about how the cop told a lie and was going to get away with the crime until a hidden video surfaced.

My point is this, even with the friggin video we have people here trying to say the suspect is being "a typical black guy" or how he fought the cop. Can you imagine if the video never was available and some eye witness said they saw the cop do the shooting? Mike Brown ring any bells on that?


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Bo-4
04-08-2015, 10:29 AM
I would take that bet but since its just cheap grandstanding I know you'd renege and not pay off.

Give me a PO box and i'll mail a signed, notarized offer Mac-7

The car will have a mounted dash cam to prove your drive time and black face (and of course to record the ensuing hilarity ;-)

Cigar
04-08-2015, 10:29 AM
Pop Quiz - Is this action Typical at any Color? Please try to defend this action

The exact moment police planted evidence

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCBvYa7W0AEeIwr.png
https://twitter.com/C0d3fr0sty/status/585590418416480256

The officer then runs back toward where the initial scuffle occurred and picks something up off the ground. Moments later, he drops an object near Mr. Scott’s body, the video shows.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?referrer=&_r=1

SoonToBe2LT
04-08-2015, 10:36 AM
I agree, however the discussion isn't whether or not the guy was murdered, obviously he was, the discussion is about how the cop told a lie and was going to get away with the crime until a hidden video surfaced.

My point is this, even with the friggin video we have people here trying to say the suspect is being "a typical black guy" or how he fought the cop. Can you imagine if the video never was available and some eye witness said they saw the cop do the shooting? Mike Brown ring any bells on that?


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I agree that it's good this video surfaced. However, sorry I have to laugh, the ballistic evidence along with the medical examiners reports confirmed the story of Mike Brown's death. Let's not burn any bridges here. Brown was justifiably killed. This man was not.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 10:39 AM
This typical white cop wouldn't be charged with murder if he had respect for the law, the law enforcement position and the power an faith intrusted in him by the taxpayers and the people of SC. :wink:

I'm sure he'll have a quality life.

So this dumb black guy fought with the cops and got himself killed happy in the knowledge that it would put a serious blemish on the white cop's record?

Cigar
04-08-2015, 10:44 AM
So this dumb black guy fought with the cops and got himself killed happy in the knowledge that it would put a serious blemish on the white cop's record?

Well there you have it Ladies and Gentlemen in all it's glory and honesty.

I've been saying this for quite some time, but thanks to Mac, it's now recorded directly from him and in his own typed words.

You can't do any better that this.

I rest my case. :laugh:

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 10:44 AM
True, technically. But I hold the same feeling for ALL people that don't respect the law. Some white hippie was killed right by where I went to college because he refused to give the officer his pot. When the officer arrested him he panicked and grabbed the officer's gun. He was then shot by the cop.

I don't feel sorry for that idiot. You OBEY they law and you won't get shot. Don't run from police. Don't argue with police. If you have a problem, TAKE IT TO COURT. Had this man not run from the police officer, he'd likely still be alive.

HOWEVER, I am not justifying the officer in question, as I believe it's pretty clear he committed murder. I'm just relaying your point that the events that lead up to the murder, could have saved the black man's life.

Lesson? If a cop pulls you over, just obey all orders given. If you disagree, take it to court. DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID.

Exactly.

See post #101 for my most recent statement on the race of the dead guy.


As I have already explained, I have no more sympathy for stupid white people than stupid blacks.


So my answer would be the same.


but liberal black race hustlers see it differently.

SoonToBe2LT
04-08-2015, 10:46 AM
Exactly.

See post #101 for my most recent statement on the race of the dead guy.



but liberal black race hustlers see it differently.

I feel your frustration. They only see color. We see the action.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 10:50 AM
Several posts in this thread are the reason why cameras should be used 100% of the time by law enforcement. Some people will just find an excuse to justify their bias whenever a case like this is presented. If there was no video evidence, there would have been a snowball chance in hell that anybody would believe the officer acted improperly.

This. A cops word is held in higher regard than a civilians, and it shouldn't be.

"He resisted arrest," "I felt threatened," "he reached for my gun," all usually bullshit, and all are used as a get out of jail free card/excuse to not get in any trouble.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 10:52 AM
I feel your frustration. They only see color. We see the action.

The Video showed Action, The Bullets saw no Color.

I am more tan willing to help you two post just as many Threads about Black Cops pumping multiple rounds of ammo into Unarmed White Victims, just send them to me and I'l post them.

You're Welcome :wink:

The Xl
04-08-2015, 10:52 AM
This cop needs a good lawyer.

From the article it looks like the "victim" wasn't wholly without negligence. This is what happens when you deal with low-lives. I would whore myself out to lepers before I took a job as a cop. It's a lose/lose situation.

Just eliminate the police forces, people can stock up on guns and ammo and defend themselves.

You'll go to the ends of the Earth to defend a cop in every possible situation, won't you?

Yeah. It's probably good that you never became a police officer.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 10:53 AM
This. A cops word is held in higher regard than a civilians, and it shouldn't be.

"He resisted arrest," "I felt threatened," "he reached for my gun," all usually bull$#@!,

and all are used as a get out of jail free card/excuse to not get in any trouble.

whereas blacks think they deserve a never-go-to-jail-free RACE card.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 10:54 AM
This. A cops word is held in higher regard than a civilians, and it shouldn't be.

"He resisted arrest," "I felt threatened," "he reached for my gun," all usually bull$#@!, and all are used as a get out of jail free card/excuse to not get in any trouble.

... and this fine upstanding pillar of the community and public servant casually planted evidence for the first time in his life.

Hummm .... involuntary action maybe? :laugh:

Cigar
04-08-2015, 10:56 AM
whereas blacks think they deserve a never-go-to-jail-free RACE card.

Naturally the Statistical Evidence basks your Bull-Crap :laugh:

Dude, do you ever think before typing?

The Xl
04-08-2015, 10:57 AM
whereas blacks think they deserve a never-go-to-jail-free RACE card.

This statement isn't coherent and makes no sense.

See, not all older people are smart and wise. You're the living embodiment of that truth.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 10:58 AM
... and this fine upstanding pillar of the community and public servant casually planted evidence for the first time in his life.

Hummm .... involuntary action maybe? :laugh:

It's a joke.

I don't care if the victim was a nice guy or not. The dude got murdered and then a cop planted evidence.

Thank God for footage, he would have gone free otherwise, because cops can do no wrong, apparently.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:00 AM
Naturally the Statistical Evidence basks your Bull-Crap :laugh:

Dude, do you ever think before typing?

In case after case that the black race hustlers present the black person was committing a crime or resisting arrest.

If you are black how have you avoided being shot down like Michael brown all these years?

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:02 AM
This statement isn't coherent and makes no sense.

See, not all older people are smart and wise. You're the living embodiment of that truth.

Why was the black guy struggling with the cop and then running away OVER A TAIL LIGHT?

Is that normal behavior for black people?

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:03 AM
This typical black person would be alive today if he had respect for the law. The one with no respect for the law is the cop who committed murder. Not everything is a murder-able offense. The cop and the state aren't God.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:04 AM
Why was the black guy struggling with the cop and then running away OVER A TAIL LIGHT? Is that normal behavior for black people? And this justifies the murder how? What's next? A cop unloading a clip in a fucking jaywalker? This is ridiculous.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:04 AM
The one with no respect for the law is the cop who committed murder. Not everything is a murder-able offense. The cop and the state aren't God.

The black guy initiated the situation.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:05 AM
This statement isn't coherent and makes no sense.

See, not all older people are smart and wise. You're the living embodiment of that truth.

If we all remove the COLOR of The Individuals ... the Actions still speak for themselves.

Search as you may, there's still no excuse for the basic actions of bot individuals

The Victim should have complied with the officer.

The Cop shouldn't have fired his gun 8 times at a fleeing suspect, then plant evidence, then submit a false incident report.

See the difference now? :huh:

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:06 AM
The black guy initiated the situation.

Ok ... got ...

Now ... what about the Officer?

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:07 AM
And this justifies the murder how? What's next? A cop unloading a clip in a $#@!ing jaywalker? This is ridiculous.

We already know what comes next ... Military Tactics

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:07 AM
The black guy initiated the situation.

So what? He wasn't a threat to the officer and was murdered. Not every crime is created equally.

The fact is the two biggest criminals in that situation are the murderer and the dude who planted evidence. Both cops. The civilian doesn't come close.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:07 AM
And this justifies the murder how? What's next? A cop unloading a clip in a $#@!ing jaywalker? This is ridiculous.

Murder has not been proven.

This stupid black person acted recklessly and it cost him his life.

The black fuhrer in the White House could do his people more good by advising them not to fight with the police than complaining about white cops.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:09 AM
The Xl I think part of the problem is that the loons have cried wolf so many times people are just tired of it even when the evidence seems clear. Sad all around. Quite frankly, I feel that way myself. Cops should not be shooting fleeing suspects in the back. That's indefensible. That said, after all the nonsense over the last two years or so I find myself thinking that this idiot would still be alive if he hadn't gotten into a physical altercation with a policeman.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:09 AM
Ok ... got ...

Now ... what about the Officer?

We'll see.

But if black people want to make it a race issue then justice will surely suffer.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:10 AM
If you're tired of hearing about now, wait until you see what comes next.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:10 AM
Murder has not been proven.

This stupid black person acted recklessly and it cost him his life.

The black fuhrer in the White House could do his people more good by advising them not to fight with the police than complaining about white cops.

This is more of that impeccable wisdom of yours, huh?

Murder has been proven to anyone with a pair of working eyes.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:11 AM
If you're tired of hearing about now, wait until you see what comes next.

Can you give us a hint?

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:11 AM
If you're tired of hearing about now, wait until you see what comes next.

More dead blacks? More destroyed black neighborhoods? You'll get shot in mine so I'm not worried about you coming here.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:12 AM
We'll see.

But if black people want to make it a race issue then justice will surely suffer.

Black People are not making it a Race issue, it's IS a race issue when it's only mostly White Cops shooting unarmed Black People. Like I said, I'll go one for one with you any days of the week ... you submit a Black Cop Shooting Unarmed White People for every Unarmed Black Person shot by White Cops.

You first

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:12 AM
@The Xl (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=865) I think part of the problem is that the loons have cried wolf so many times people are just tired of it even when the evidence seems clear. Sad all around. Quite frankly, I feel that way myself. Cops should not be shooting fleeing suspects in the back. That's indefensible. That said, after all the nonsense over the last two years or so I find myself thinking that this idiot would still be alive if he hadn't gotten into a physical altercation with a policeman.

Civilian fatigue from the media doesn't and shouldn't change the reality of the situation.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:13 AM
More dead blacks? More destroyed black neighborhoods? You'll get shot in mine so I'm not worried about you coming here.

I'm Game ... let Play

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:13 AM
This is more of that impeccable wisdom of yours, huh?

Murder has been proven to anyone with a pair of working eyes.

Murder is a legal term that has not been proven in court.

All you know is that a very stupid and reckless black guy was killed by a cop.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:14 AM
Civilian fatigue from the media doesn't and shouldn't change the reality of the situation.

Exactgly, they don't what to hear about it, but they don't have that Power. They will hear about every time..

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:15 AM
Murder is a legal term that has not been proven in court.

All you know is that a very stupid and reckless black guy was killed by a cop.

I'll give you that, but it's the Cops own Commanding Officer and The DA who said Murder ... so attack them.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:15 AM
Black People are not making it a Race issue, it's IS a race issue when it's only mostly White Cops shooting unarmed Black People. Like I said, I'll go one for one with you any days of the week ... you submit a Black Cop Shooting Unarmed White People for every Unarmed Black Person shot by White Cops.

You first

It only becomes a race issue for lefties when stupid black people decide to fight with the cops and the cop happens to be white.

Safety
04-08-2015, 11:15 AM
I agree that it's good this video surfaced. However, sorry I have to laugh, the ballistic evidence along with the medical examiners reports confirmed the story of Mike Brown's death. Let's not burn any bridges here. Brown was justifiably killed. This man was not.

I'm not saying Brown was not justifiably killed, I am saying how the eyewitnesses said one thing and ballistics showed another. That probably would have been the criteria in this case if the video never existed.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:16 AM
Murder is a legal term that has not been proven in court. All you know is that a very stupid and reckless black guy was killed by a cop. We don't need a court of a law to prove anything, it has already been proven. It should be a formality at this point, and if it isn't, the case was rigged. Period, end of discussion. It's clear cut. The guy was murdered and evidence was planted on him. It's indefensible and inexcusable. The fact that a pillar of wisdom such as yourself is defending this is quite surprising. Shocking, I say.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:16 AM
Civilian fatigue from the media doesn't and shouldn't change the reality of the situation.

That is the reality of the situation. This is the effect all the whining has had. It seems quite clear the cop should be charged here. It's also quite clear that wrestling with cops is increasingly perceived as something normal for black men. Getting shot will be too.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:17 AM
I'll give you that, but it's the Cops own Commanding Officer and The DA who said Murder ... so attack them.

They charged him with murder and it may be proven in court.

But the best way for black people to avoid being killed by cops is to obey the law.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:18 AM
They charged him with murder and it may be proven in court. But the best way for black people to avoid being killed by cops is to obey the law. Perhaps the cops should obey the law, especially the more important ones, like murder.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:19 AM
We don't need a court of a law to prove anything, it has already been proven.

Mob rule?

In the hood every black thug is a mob of one.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:19 AM
They charged him with murder and it may be proven in court.

But the best way for black people to avoid being killed by cops is to obey the law.

Obey the law? No, just don't struggle with the cops. It's not that hard. It's inconceiveable to me that I would ever have a physical altercation with the police. i want to assume that's true of most people but maybe not...

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:20 AM
Perhaps the cops should obey the law, especially the more important ones, like murder.

Cops should.

But I have never been shot by a cop.

Have you?

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:21 AM
For the record, if you wrestle with the police you are likely to get killed. That's not going to change.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 11:21 AM
Obey the law? No, just don't struggle with the cops. It's not that hard. It's inconceiveable to me that I would ever have a physical altercation with the police. i want to assume that's true of most people but maybe not...

I have wondered if its normal in black culture to fight with the cops.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 11:21 AM
That is the reality of the situation. This is the effect all the whining has had. It seems quite clear the cop should be charged here. It's also quite clear that wrestling with cops is increasingly perceived as something normal for black men. Getting shot will be too.

That's exactly my point.

Race baiters are going to make this a racial issue ignoring the dysfunction on the part of the black victim. No, running away from a cop doesn't deserve being shot to death but on the other hand this is what cops have to deal with and I've always given them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise because dealing with these roaches is a difficult job. And a thankless one.

And since proportionately blacks are accountable for a large portion of crime and most cops are white men, this will happen again and again and the village idiots will make it a witch hunt every time.

So just get rid of cops. Impose martial law.

I'm not defending this cops actions, there should be charges. But he needs to be defended also against the rabid race card attack dogs.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 11:22 AM
I have wondered if its normal in black culture to fight with the cops.

In black thug culture, yes - I believe it is.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:23 AM
I have wondered if its normal in black culture to fight with the cops.

Somehow, seeing the correlation between that and police shootings is difficult for some.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:24 AM
Mob rule?

In the hood every black thug is a mob of one.

It's called working eyes. I know you're a little advanced in your age and your eyes may not work as well as mine and others, but it is clear. Clear to the point that if it went the other way, it is absolute confirmation of a rigged court.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:25 AM
That's exactly my point.

Race baiters are going to make this a racial issue ignoring the dysfunction on the part of the black victim. No, running away from a cop doesn't deserve being shot to death but on the other hand this is what cops have to deal with and I've always given them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise because dealing with these roaches is a difficult job. And a thankless one.

And since proportionately blacks are accountable for a large portion of crime and most cops are white men, this will happen again and again and the village idiots will make it a witch hunt every time.

So just get rid of cops. Impose martial law.

I'm not defending this cops actions, there should be charges. But he needs to be defended also against the rabid race card attack dogs.

I agree about the racial angle. There isn't one. If this story had been presented the right way we'd probably all be in agreement save for a handful of kooks.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:26 AM
Cops should.

But I have never been shot by a cop.

Have you?

No. But I've also never been shot by a black guy, a leprechaun, Dr. Dre, Hulk Hogan, Bob Cousy, Ronda Rousey, Dane Cook, Bob Dole, or James Madison, either.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 11:27 AM
No. But I've also never been shot by a black guy, a leprechaun, Dr. Dre, Hulk Hogan, Bob Cousy, Ronda Rousey, Dane Cook, Bob Dole, or James Madison, either.

Or Dick Cheney?

The Sage of Main Street
04-08-2015, 11:31 AM
The guy was a fleeing felon and should have been shot. Failing to shoot fleeing felons is the main reason there are so many high speed police chases that kill innocent people. The uncontrollable brainwashed spoiled brat was an evolutionary failure unfit for civilized society. This whole social experiment was a failure before it started. Feralphiles had plenty of evidence not to impose it on the majority; that's why they refuse to look at how it was all re-confirmed after the wild men were turned loose on us by the ruling class.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:32 AM
@The Xl (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=865) I think part of the problem is that the loons have cried wolf so many times people are just tired of it even when the evidence seems clear. Sad all around. Quite frankly, I feel that way myself. Cops should not be shooting fleeing suspects in the back. That's indefensible. That said, after all the nonsense over the last two years or so I find myself thinking that this idiot would still be alive if he hadn't gotten into a physical altercation with a policeman.

Both of your statements are correct ... but one is a Paid Trained Law Enforcement Professional

It's the reason we have Police and we're not self Policing.

See the difference?

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:35 AM
Both of your statements are correct ... but one is a Paid Trained Law Enforcement Professional

It's the reason we have Police and we're not self Policing.

See the difference?

I honestly appreciate your effort to be serious.

Yes, one is a paid professional. The other made a really stupid decision that he paid for with his life. What exactly was your point?

The Sage of Main Street
04-08-2015, 11:36 AM
'Murder of a man even in war is still murder'

~ Baron Von Richthofen shortly before he too was shot and killed For some reason, true warriors submit to pressure from cowards and traitors.

birddog
04-08-2015, 11:38 AM
The cop should be reprimanded for shooting eight times with three being misses.

Actually, I believe the cop should have been able to shoot the felon in the leg with no more than two shots, or he should have let him run.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:38 AM
I honestly appreciate your effort to be serious.

Yes, one is a paid professional. The other made a really stupid decision that he paid for with his life. What exactly was your point?

I'm guessing that the paid professional should be above it and held to a higher standard.

His life was in no danger at all. His partner knew the situation and knew he needed to plant evidence.

We need a better police force and a justice system that holds them accountable.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:40 AM
I honestly appreciate your effort to be serious.

Yes, one is a paid professional. The other made a really stupid decision that he paid for with his life. What exactly was your point?

My point is, everyday, all day, all over the United States, people are making really stupid decisions without getting executed for them. So why is it only Unarmed Black Men, Teens and Children getting shot ... not once, but Numerous Times?

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:40 AM
I'm guessing that the paid professional should be above it and held to a higher standard.

His life was in no danger at all. His partner knew the situation and knew he needed to plant evidence.

We need a better police force and a justice system that holds them accountable.

I don't disagree. Black men also need to stop fighting cops. That explains why so many of them die at the hands of cops. Agreed?

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:42 AM
I'm guessing that the paid professional should be above it and held to a higher standard.

His life was in no danger at all. His partner knew the situation and knew he needed to plant evidence.

We need a better police force and a justice system that holds them accountable.

It's The Power and Faith we all give to Elected Officials who are Trained and Trusted to provide for our safety. We give this same Power to out Military and we'd all would have a big problem wit hthat if they were using that Power against American Citizens every month.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 11:43 AM
I don't disagree. Black men also need to stop fighting cops. That explains why so many of them die at the hands of cops. Agreed?

It's not going to happen, it's just not.

I think Cigar represents a lot of what mainstream black people are - and that's at the very least sympathetic to black thug culture, and resentful toward white people in general.

This is going to be a growing theme and cops (and the police union) need to start considering legal maneuvering throughout this witch hunt.

nic34
04-08-2015, 11:43 AM
5 times. The cop missed 3 times.

He should lose his job just for that.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:43 AM
I don't disagree. Black men also need to stop fighting cops. That explains why so many of them die at the hands of cops. Agreed?

Obviously fighting with cops is a bad idea, even if the civilian is in the right. People do this out of sheer frustration because they don't believe in the system, however. It needs to change.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:43 AM
My point is, everyday, all day, all over the United States, people are making really stupid decisions without getting executed for them. So why is it only Unarmed Black Men, Teens and Children getting shot ... not once, but Numerous Times?

No, really this does appear to be a black thing. White people would not make a fuss if I got shot tonight after wrestling with a cop. They'd say "what a dumbass" and change the channel. This black man, like Brown, got shot because he couldn't keep his hands to himself. Try it. It's not hard.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:46 AM
I don't disagree. Black men also need to stop fighting cops. That explains why so many of them die at the hands of cops. Agreed?

Agreed ... I don't endorse getting frustrated with Bad Police actions, because they only lead to Worse Police Actions.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:47 AM
It's not going to happen, it's just not.

I think Cigar represents a lot of what mainstream black people are - and that's at the very least sympathetic to black thug culture, and resentful toward white people in general.

This is going to be a growing theme and cops (and the police union) need to start considering legal maneuvering throughout this witch hunt.

I think you're right and that sucks. The ere does apepar to be an unwillingness on both sides to change.

nic34
04-08-2015, 11:47 AM
I honestly appreciate your effort to be serious.

Yes, one is a paid professional. The other made a really stupid decision that he paid for with his life. What exactly was your point?

A black guy running from an armed cop these days is not stupid. Unless he's been living in a cave the last few years.

Now let's go back to blaming the victim some more....

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:47 AM
Agreed ... I don't endorse getting frustrated with Bad Police actions, because they only lead to Worse Police Actions.

Criminals (like Brown) get frustrated because they don't want to get caught.

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:48 AM
It's not going to happen, it's just not.

I think Cigar represents a lot of what mainstream black people are - and that's at the very least sympathetic to black thug culture, and resentful toward white people in general.

This is going to be a growing theme and cops (and the police union) need to start considering legal maneuvering throughout this witch hunt.

For all of that, whether its true or not, those people don't have special protections, and cops do.

That's where the "witch hunt" gains support and groud, people get legitimately angry and afraid when they hear of a cop blasting someone and getting off scot free. If they were held accountable and didn't do that anymore, you wouldn't need to worry about a witch hunt or an anti cop sentiment in general.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:49 AM
A black guy running from an armed cop these days is not stupid. Unless he's been living in a cave the last few years.

Now let's go back to blaming the victim some more....

Another white guy who could never imagine himself wrestling with a cop but thinks it makes sense for black people to do so. Nic, you're not their friend. You're making sure more of them will get killed.

nic34
04-08-2015, 11:50 AM
The guy was a fleeing felon and should have been shot. Failing to shoot fleeing felons is the main reason there are so many high speed police chases that kill innocent people.

I still haven't seen where this man was shot because he was an alleged felon.

Maybe you want to provide a credible source?

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 11:52 AM
For all of that, whether its true or not, those people don't have special protections, and cops do.

That's where the "witch hunt" gains support and groud, people get legitimately angry and afraid when they hear of a cop blasting someone and getting off scot free. If they were held accountable and didn't do that anymore, you wouldn't need to worry about a witch hunt or an anti cop sentiment in general.

Black people are a protected class, give me a fucking break.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 11:53 AM
A black guy running from an armed cop these days is not stupid. Unless he's been living in a cave the last few years.

Now let's go back to blaming the victim some more....

Here you go - liberals advising thugs to just run from cops.

What's next - advising them just to open fire on cops on sight?

The Xl
04-08-2015, 11:55 AM
Black people are a protected class, give me a fucking break.

Protected in some senses, not even close in others. When it comes to the justice system and police, they aren't protected at all, and I doubt you can make a logical assertion as to how they are.

Are they protected in the sense that they can say dumb racist shit on facebook and not face the backlash a white person would? Sure, but that's a different matter entirely, start a thread on it and I'll surely contribute. On this matter? No, not even fucking close.

midcan5
04-08-2015, 11:55 AM
I don't disagree. Black men also need to stop fighting cops. That explains why so many of them die at the hands of cops. Agreed?
Mister D

You live in friggin lalaland for sure, cops go after blacks but they also go after Hispanics and whites. No one is fighting them, they are beating up on all of the above. Not all police officers of course, but too many. Power ruins lots of people and police power requires the kind of person who can manage some tough situations. Do this, simply wisecrack a Philly cop. With lots of brothers, been there, done that. The stories I could tell.

The Sage of Main Street
04-08-2015, 11:56 AM
You don't see the problem with US media purposely throwing gas on a fire to the point that they often miss the actual facts of the situation(s) and merely stir people up? They're so quick to report these incidents and make them out to be acts of racism before they even know any details of the case. They publicly convict the police officer before there is even the opportunity to actually know any of the facts. Yellow Journalism ordered by the Whiteys Hating Whitey clique controlling our social attitudes.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 11:57 AM
@Mister D (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=4)

You live in friggin lalaland for sure, cops go after blacks but they also go after Hispanics and whites. No one is fighting them, they are beating up on all of the above. Not all police officers of course, but too many. Power ruins lots of people and police power requires the kind of person who can manage some tough situations. Do this, simply wisecrack a Philly cop. With lots of brothers, been there, done that. The stories I could tell.

http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1334373951581599596.jpg

Cigar
04-08-2015, 11:57 AM
No, really this does appear to be a black thing. White people would not make a fuss if I got shot tonight after wrestling with a cop. They'd say "what a dumbass" and change the channel. This black man, like Brown, got shot because he couldn't keep his hands to himself. Try it. It's not hard.

At one point, and it may not be today, but at one point soon, people ate going to see that the bigger problem is not with "compliance", because every police Cadet is trained in how to handle non-compliance, without the need for deadly force. It's why they are issued Billy-clubs, Nightsticks (Baton) since the 19th Century. It's is also why the officer had a Taser and a Radio.

For God Sakes ... did you see the guy run? He was already TASED and was Running Like a Paulzy ... he didn't have muscle strength and wasn't going to get anywhere with those 6 needles in his back.

No the real problem is the Cops and unless they do something to fix it, we're going to start seeing Dead Cops on the street next.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:58 AM
@Mister D (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=4)

You live in friggin lalaland for sure, cops go after blacks but they also go after Hispanics and whites. No one is fighting them, they are beating up on all of the above. Not all police officers of course, but too many. Power ruins lots of people and police power requires the kind of person who can manage some tough situations. Do this, simply wisecrack a Philly cop. With lots of brothers, been there, done that. The stories I could tell.

Yeah, black men never struggle with the police. Michael Brown didn't and this guy didn't. Oh, and Atlantic City is really safe at night. yeah, OK. lol

Oh, and no one would read those stories so don't waste your time.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 11:59 AM
http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1334373951581599596.jpg

White progressives...

Howey
04-08-2015, 12:06 PM
If the victim was white this would never have been posted. Well, not by Exotix anyway.

And if the cop was black, you racists would be all over it.

The Sage of Main Street
04-08-2015, 12:06 PM
This didn't happen over night, this has been building for decades and it's NOW just the beginning of the END of this type Law Enforcement.

Yea that's right, Change will come, and by any means necessary ... but Change will Come.

Yea ... People are going to die, but that's always been the case. But now Balance is going to be applied to reality.
Just like the change that ended Reconstruction's Black Supremacy. What we have today is Jamail Crow.

exotix
04-08-2015, 12:06 PM
Mayor letting us know that Officer Slagers' wife is 8 months pregnant and will continue to receive benefits as *the humane thing to do* ... the public gets to sport the cost of 100+ cop body cams ...


http://i60.tinypic.com/2mrw4y8.jpg

Mister D
04-08-2015, 12:08 PM
And if the cop was black, you racists would be all over it.

You're trying too hard, Howey.

The forum is becoming a little cartoonish.

Safety
04-08-2015, 12:10 PM
Well, I see this thread has run its course. This is why titles are pretty improtant when a decent discussion is sought.

Howey
04-08-2015, 12:10 PM
You're trying too hard, Howey.

The forum is becoming a little cartoonish.

Will you be leaving now? I'm sure you'll be welcome at Stormfront.

The Sage of Main Street
04-08-2015, 12:11 PM
I agree ...even if you want to take RACE completely out of this conversation ... what exactly are people here trying to defend?

Don't play tag with cops. Before it is too late, people have to grow up and leave the playground.

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 12:12 PM
Will you be leaving now? I'm sure you'll be welcome at Stormfront.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1605118901/race_card.jpg

Cigar
04-08-2015, 12:13 PM
Mayor letting us know that Officer Slagers' wife is 8 months pregnant and will continue to receive benefits as *the humane thing to do* ... the public gets to sport the cost of 100+ cop body cams ...


http://i60.tinypic.com/2mrw4y8.jpg

Just wait for Wrongful Death Claim. :shocked:

Tax payers are eventually going to get tired of paying for trained professional mistakes.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 12:13 PM
Well, I see this thread has run its course. This is why titles are pretty improtant when a decent discussion is sought.

Yeah, let Sage have the last word lol

Cigar
04-08-2015, 12:15 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1605118901/race_card.jpg

Thanks ... that's all I needed. :laugh:

http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/4083/4083,1145701273,1/stock-photo-ten-jack-queen-king-and-ace-of-spades-isolated-this-is-the-highest-hand-in-poker-contains-a-1232591.jpg

The Sage of Main Street
04-08-2015, 12:18 PM
You did not see what happened before the video started so you really know very little. I bet the race-baiting guy who took the video did see the attack on the cop but refused to film it.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 12:21 PM
It's getting weak ... :laugh:

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 12:41 PM
@Mister D (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=4)

You live in friggin lalaland for sure, cops go after blacks but they also go after Hispanics and whites. No one is fighting them, they are beating up on all of the above. Not all police officers of course, but too many. Power ruins lots of people and police power requires the kind of person who can manage some tough situations. Do this, simply wisecrack a Philly cop. With lots of brothers, been there, done that. The stories I could tell.

Have you ever been beaten up by the cops?

I haven't.

The Sage of Main Street
04-08-2015, 12:51 PM
http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1334373951581599596.jpg
That's pretty much what Gates thinks of all Americans, especially the geek suckers who created all his wealth.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 12:57 PM
I bet the race-baiting guy who took the video did see the attack on the cop but refused to film it.

I don't know who took the video or what his motives are.

But I do know something is wrong with black people who insist on fighting with the police.

I keep asking the libs here if they have ever been beaten up by the cops and no one has even bothered to lie about it and say they were.

Cigar
04-08-2015, 12:57 PM
http://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/24.gif?w=1000

Cigar
04-08-2015, 12:58 PM
I don't know who took the video or what his motives are.

But I do know something is wrong with black people who insist on fighting with the police.

I keep asking the libs here if they have ever been beaten up by the cops and no one has even bothered to lie about it and say they were.

But But But we're all the same ... so you already know the answer to your own question :laugh:

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 01:02 PM
But But But we're all the same ... so you already know the answer to your own question :laugh:

I don't know how libs will answer it.

If you are black and have never been beaten by the cops then you must have led a sheltered life.

exotix
04-08-2015, 01:02 PM
But But But we're all the same ... so you already know the answer to your own question :laugh:
I don't know how libs will answer it.

If you are black and have never been beaten by the cops then you must have led a sheltered life.http://www.uphamscornernews.com/image-files/declaration-all-men-created-equal.jpg
http://www.johnlroberts.com/images/decofindependance2.jpg

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 01:04 PM
http://www.uphamscornernews.com/image-files/declaration-all-men-created-equal.jpg
http://www.johnlroberts.com/images/decofindependance2.jpg

How many times have you been beaten by the cops?

For the purposes of debate any lib lie will do.

exotix
04-08-2015, 01:05 PM
How many times have you been beaten by the cops?

For the purposes of debate any lib lie will do.
Whites, Blacks, Mexicans and others ... are all created equal to be executed by cops.

Howey
04-08-2015, 01:06 PM
I've been beaten up by a cop.

Mister D
04-08-2015, 01:07 PM
I've been beaten up by a cop.

Did he neg rep you too? :laugh:

Cigar
04-08-2015, 01:08 PM
How many times have you been beaten by the cops?

For the purposes of debate any lib lie will do.

Oh Please would someone answer this rhetorical question?

http://lynnmosher.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Head-slap-2c.jpg


NO I have Never been beaten by the cops or walked on the Moon ... but word has it we have confirmed Footprints :rollseyes:

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/62043main_Footprint_on_moon.jpg Or would you deny it? :grin:

Cigar
04-08-2015, 01:09 PM
I've been beaten up by a cop.

I would be nice to Own a Small City :grin:

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 01:15 PM
Whites, Blacks, Mexicans and others ... are all created equal to be executed by cops.

I'm white and I've never been executed by a cop.

Mac-7
04-08-2015, 01:16 PM
I've been beaten up by a cop.

Great.

What did you do?

exotix
04-08-2015, 01:16 PM
I'm white and I've never been executed by a cop.
There's still plenty of sunlight left ...

Captain Obvious
04-08-2015, 01:16 PM
Great.

What did you do?

Bled?

PolWatch
04-08-2015, 01:20 PM
'got himself killed happy in the knowledge that it would put a serious blemish on the white cop's record'

you can't make stuff like this up.....