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Cigar
04-15-2015, 08:53 AM
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Here, courtesy of politicususa.com, is a partial transcript of remarks made by President Obama in Panama yesterday at the Summit of the Americas:



When I hear some, like Senator McCain recently, suggest that our Secretary of State, John Kerry, who served in the United States Senate, a Vietnam veteran, who’s provided exemplary service to this nation, is somehow less trustworthy in the interpretation of what’s in a political agreement than the Supreme Leader of Iran — that’s an indication of the degree to which partisanship has crossed all boundaries. And we’re seeing this again and again. We saw it with the letter by the 47 senators who communicated directly to the Supreme Leader of Iran — the person that they say can’t be trusted at all — warning him not to trust the United States government.


We have Mitch McConnell trying to tell the world, oh, don’t have confidence in the U.S. government’s abilities to fulfill any climate change pledge that we might make. And now we have a senator suggesting that our Secretary of State is purposely misinterpreting the deal and giving the Supreme Leader of Iran the benefit of the doubt in the interpretations.
That’s not how we’re supposed to run foreign policy, regardless of who’s President or Secretary of State. We can have arguments, and there are legitimate arguments to be had. I understand why people might be mistrustful of Iran. I understand why people might oppose the deal — although the reason is not because this is a bad deal per se, but they just don’t trust any deal with Iran, and may prefer to take a military approach to it.



But when you start getting to the point where you are actively communicating that the United States government and our Secretary of State is somehow spinning presentations in a negotiation with a foreign power, particularly one that you say is your enemy, that’s a problem. It needs to stop.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/04/12/1377228/-POTUS-Shreds-McCain-McConnell?detail=email#

Bo-4
04-15-2015, 09:28 AM
You know the amazing thing about Senate Republicans?

They want to micromanage diplomatic talks with Iran in an attempt to avoid war, but care not a snit to weigh in on the wars we're already in.

Losers.

Mac-7
04-15-2015, 09:31 AM
You know the amazing thing about Senate Republicans?

They want to micromanage diplomatic talks with Iran in an attempt to avoid war, but care not a snit to weigh in on the wars we're already in.

Losers.

The democrats in the senate joined republicans demanding that obumer submit any Iran deal for confirmation.

pragmatic
04-15-2015, 09:35 AM
The democrats in the senate joined republicans demanding that obumer submit any Iran deal for confirmation.

And it appears Congress has won that standoff. Obama has agreed not to veto the legislation.

Which is actually pretty smart on Obama's part. The Iran negotiations are not going well. And this way the Administration isn't left holding the bag all alone.

Mac-7
04-15-2015, 09:39 AM
And it appears Congress has won that standoff. Obama has agreed not to veto the legislation.

Which is actually pretty smart on Obama's part. The Iran negotiations are not going well. And this way the Administration isn't left holding the bag all alone.

I was just pointing out a little reality to the partisan liberal democrat who was not well informed on the subject.

PattyHill
04-15-2015, 10:00 AM
And it appears Congress has won that standoff. Obama has agreed not to veto the legislation.

Which is actually pretty smart on Obama's part. The Iran negotiations are not going well. And this way the Administration isn't left holding the bag all alone.


I don't think it's a question of someone "winning". The Senate and Pres. Obama worked together to get language both could agree to. It was a compromise. And wow - how wonderful to see both parties working together on something!

I think Senator Cotton is a train wreck. But glad not everyone in the Senate is.

Bo-4
04-15-2015, 10:04 AM
I don't think it's a question of someone "winning". The Senate and Pres. Obama worked together to get language both could agree to. It was a compromise. And wow - how wonderful to see both parties working together on something!

I think Senator Cotton is a train wreck. But glad not everyone in the Senate is.

Every time i see that annoying little twit yammering about Iran on the tube, i throw up a little bit in my throat.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/83/6d/ff/836dffc01f8ef1fd57da06c0f5f3bde5.jpg

texan
04-15-2015, 12:57 PM
You know the amazing thing about Democrats on this board?

They constantly post from Politicususa and the daily KOS like they are good sources of unbiased news.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval_foreign_policy-2821.html


Oh and Jogn Kerry is a supreme TOOL!!!!!!!! Fing Genghis Kahn..........Idiot and you have to be an idiot to pick him as S of S.

texan
04-15-2015, 01:12 PM
Who is POTUS to lecture anyone, people don't approve of his job:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
President Obama Job Approval
Job Approval on Economy (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval_economy-2820.html) | Job Approval on Foreign Policy (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval_foreign_policy-2821.html)
Polling Data

Poll
Date
Sample
Approve
Disapprove
Spread


RCP Average
3/25 - 4/14
--
44.7
50.0
-5.3


USA Today/Suffolk (http://www.suffolk.edu/documents/SUPRC/4_14_2015_marginals_full_embargo.pdf)
4/8 - 4/13
1000 A
42
48
-6


Rasmussen Reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history)
4/12 - 4/14
1500 LV
48
50
-2


Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx)
4/11 - 4/13
1500 A
45
50
-5


The Economist/YouGov (https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/ub6bpdffxb/trackingreport.pdf)
4/4 - 4/6
699 RV
47
50
-3


Reuters/Ipsos (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2015/Reuters_Ipsos_040315.pdf)
3/28 - 4/1
1843 A
41
53
-12


FOX News (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2015/04/01/fox-news-poll-voters-nervous-about-economy-believe-bergdahl-trade-was-wrong/)
3/29 - 3/31
1025 RV
45
50
-5


PPP (D) (http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_40715.pdf)
3/26 - 3/31
989 RV
42
53
-11


Pew Research (http://www.people-press.org/files/2015/04/4-2-2015-2016-topline-for-release.pdf)
3/25 - 3/29
1500 A
46
47
-1


ABC News/Wash Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2015/04/01/National-Politics/Polling/question_15543.xml)
3/26 - 3/29
RV
46
49
-3



All President Obama Job Approval Polling Data (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html#polls)

PattyHill
04-15-2015, 01:49 PM
You know the amazing thing about Democrats on this board?

They constantly post from Politicususa and the daily KOS like they are good sources of unbiased news.

.

What they report on, they generally do accurately. The link in the op is reporting the president's remarks. Are you saying that they reported his remarks incorrectly?

Source does matter; but in cases like this, it really doesn't matter what source is used to post a quote of a speech - assuming the source reports the speech accurately.

But of course, that's all you have. You can't deny that the republicans have been over the wall on their comments on Iran, so you nitpick the source.

birddog
04-15-2015, 02:08 PM
I don't think it's a question of someone "winning". The Senate and Pres. Obama worked together to get language both could agree to. It was a compromise. And wow - how wonderful to see both parties working together on something!

I think Senator Cotton is a train wreck. But glad not everyone in the Senate is.

You are as wrong as you can be! Senator Cotton is right on, and recent capitulation by the Kenyan is proof of it!

domer76
04-15-2015, 02:36 PM
I was just pointing out a little reality to the partisan liberal democrat who was not well informed on the subject.

You pointed out nothing. The Congress is now doing its job, as it should be. It's just that until now, Obama has been walking all over them. Nice to see just a little backbone for once

texan
04-15-2015, 02:37 PM
What they report on, they generally do accurately. The link in the op is reporting the president's remarks. Are you saying that they reported his remarks incorrectly?

Source does matter; but in cases like this, it really doesn't matter what source is used to post a quote of a speech - assuming the source reports the speech accurately.

But of course, that's all you have. You can't deny that the republicans have been over the wall on their comments on Iran, so you nitpick the source.

I am sure the president's quotes are fine and I addressed them by showing how people feel about his foreign policy which is John McCain's area of interest. In other words POTUS stop the Bull you ain't gettin done and no one believes in your policy not even our so called allies any longer.

Politicususa has a permanent section call the "war on women" if you think they are reporting in an unbiased manner with a section like that you are nuts! The KOS reports accurately? LOL! They won't even debate both sides of an issue on that site, they just kick people out if they don't agree with the dem party. Don't even start with the BS those two are generally legit news sources.

texan
04-15-2015, 02:48 PM
BTW for example I am not saying that links to CBS stories on anyone's site or direct quotes are wrong. But them as some credible news source is BS. Some people here post from those sites day after day with the most slanted stories you can find as some sort of fact.