83% of doctors considered quitting over Obamacare

[Trinnity]

[/URL][URL="http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/09/report-83-percent-of-doctors-have-considered-quitting-over-obamacare/"]Report: 83 percent of doctors have considered quitting over Obamacare (http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/09/report-83-percent-of-doctors-have-considered-quitting-over-obamacare/)

The DPMA, a non-partisan association of doctors and patients, surveyed (http://www.doctorsandpatients.org/resources/85-physician-attitudes-survey-june-2012) a random selection of 699 doctors nationwide. The survey found that the majority have thought about bailing out of their careers over the legislation, which was upheld last month by the Supreme Court.

“One of our primary concerns is that you’ve got an aging physician workforce and you have these new beneficiaries — these newly insured people — coming through the system,” he said. “There will be strains and there will be physician shortages.”

The DPMA found that many doctors do not believe the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will lead to better access to medical care for the majority of Americans, co-founder of the DPMA Kathryn Serkes told TheDC.

“Doctors clearly understand what Washington does not — that a piece of paper that says you are ‘covered’ by insurance or ‘enrolled’ in Medicare or Medicaid does not translate to actual medical care when doctors can’t afford to see patients at the lowball payments, and patients have to jump through government and insurance company bureaucratic hoops,” she said.

Meddling in DC always makes things worse. The biggest thing holding us back from a real recovery is upstairs in the second floor prezzy office, watching b-ball in his socks. Obama must be voted out in the fall for us to have a CHANCE at getting this country back on track. Then repeal this Oscamacare monster and stop the insane printing of fiat money and deficit spending.

[wingrider]

yes we have already had 2 dr. just close thier offices, it isn't going to be pretty , the next year will tell us just how this is going to work out..
we can force people to buy insurance but if there aren't enough dr to cover the patients .. it is going to get dicey..

[Trinnity]

I'm concerned how so many people won't be able to afford to buy it and have to miss house payments to pay for it. You know where that will lead.
My understanding is a family of four with income above 30K will get no subsidy. It's families like that in the 30-50k range with a mortgage that are gonna be in great peril over this - families who were in the 60-80k range when both parents had jobs.

[wingrider]

yep I fit in that 1st category.. I refuse to comply

[MMC]

There is a Physicians group out of Arizona representing Doctors and Nurses that have also filed a Suit with the SCOTUS based on Constitutionality. As Legislation for healthcare is suppose to be done thru Private Buisness & Congress and not some 15 man panel to make decisions over legislation. There is more to the suit than just that issue tho.

[Cigar]

Meddling in DC always makes things worse. The biggest thing holding us back from a real recovery is upstairs in the second floor prezzy office, watching b-ball in his socks. Obama must be voted out in the fall for us to have a CHANCE at getting this country back on track. Then repeal this Oscamacare monster and stop the insane printing of fiat money and deficit spending.

The Country needs Ditch-Diggers also in a Right-to-Work Society :)

[Trinnity]

The Country needs Ditch-Diggers also in a Right-to-Work Society :)
Do you have a point or are you just paid by the word?

[Cigar]

Do you have a point or are you just paid by the word?

My point is ... Quitters are free to Quit at anytime ... who's Stopping Them.

Oh wait ... maybe the Mortgage?

[Trinnity]

I think you DID fall and bump your head.

[Peter1469]

I heard that the subsidy cap was for families that make up to ~$92K.

[Captain Obvious]

That poll, I guarantee, is substantially flawed.

I don't know what the actual statistical results would be in an accurate polling, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest that the actual result would be less than 1%.

[Deadwood]

Meddling in DC always makes things worse. The biggest thing holding us back from a real recovery is upstairs in the second floor prezzy office, watching b-ball in his socks. Obama must be voted out in the fall for us to have a CHANCE at getting this country back on track. Then repeal this Oscamacare monster and stop the insane printing of fiat money and deficit spending.


More than anything this speaks to the first, foundational criticism, even before the legislation was passed. the system is already stressed, by expanding the patient base by 30 % you are going to get LESS access to medical care not more.

Trust me, l have lived with universal health care for 40 years. we have had our strains and still do in some areas, geographic and medical. We have had to inevent new techniques instead of invasive and costly [after care!!!!!] surgery. And I have just come from my first diabetes clinic; I had access to a specialist within three days of being diagnosed. But we would be completely shut down by a sudden increase of that magnitude.

Now, add to that the fact that a large percentage of the new patients are going to have had varying degrees of untreated and/or undiagnosed illnesses...causing a greater impact as untreated illnesses are more stubborn and more costly to repair.

No, I would not blame any doctor for closing a practice facing those kinds of head aches..

[Deadwood]

That poll, I guarantee, is substantially flawed.

I don't know what the actual statistical results would be in an accurate polling, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest that the actual result would be less than 1%.


Even allowing for a statistical error one per cent is still significant when you consider they are walking away from a lucrative career. However, I suggest to you that it is greater than 1%

[Peter1469]

There is a growing trend in the US for doctors to take cash only and refuse to deal with insurance and the government. That could work for general medicine.

[Trinnity]

Even allowing for a statistical error one per cent is still significant when you consider they are walking away from a lucrative career. However, I suggest to you that it is greater than 1%I know a lot of doctors and quite a few are saying they will retire rather than deal with it. These are serious people and they mean it.

[Captain Obvious]

Even allowing for a statistical error one per cent is still significant when you consider they are walking away from a lucrative career. However, I suggest to you that it is greater than 1%

I'm in the doc business and none of the ones I'm associated with are even considering quitting, the suggestion that a significant group of, or any of them for that matter is absurd. It's not even a point of discussion when I talk with them about Obamacare, moreso the discussion is to the extent that they don't understand how it's going to work, like most of the rest of us.

Some who are close to retirement may retire and I don't think that population should be considered in the group of absconders but even aside from that, there is really no discussion in the medical community, in any of the association publications and the like that there is even a minority of docs considering walking off the job over this legislation.

None, zilch, zero.

[Mainecoons]

Sample size was too small to draw such global conclusions.

[Captain Obvious]

Sample size was too small to draw such global conclusions.

Exactly, that's the first clue that this "study" is deeply flawed.

[Goldie Locks]

I'm in the doc business and none of the ones I'm associated with are even considering quitting, the suggestion that a significant group of, or any of them for that matter is absurd. It's not even a point of discussion when I talk with them about Obamacare, moreso the discussion is to the extent that they don't understand how it's going to work, like most of the rest of us.

Some who are close to retirement may retire and I don't think that population should be considered in the group of absconders but even aside from that, there is really no discussion in the medical community, in any of the association publications and the like that there is even a minority of docs considering walking off the job over this legislation.

None, zilch, zero.

You're personal associations don't mean shit...just sayin'

[Peter1469]

When looking at polls, look at the questions asked.

Just considering closing down because of Obamacare is not the same thing as saying you will close down.