Left still screaming over Citizens United

[Bob]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/18/leftists-still-shouting-fire-over-citizens-united-ruling/


We all know that you can’t shout “fire” in a crowded theater. The Supreme Court has said as much. That hasn’t stopped Hillary Clinton and the liberal media from doing just that in response to the landmark Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. FEC.The case, which has been settled law for more than five years, continues to inspire visceral reactions from leftists. Just this week Hillary Clinton tried to rally her base by arguing, “We need to fix our dysfunctional political system and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all, even if that takes a constitutional amendment.” It’s the same tired tactic that Barack Obama used in 2010 to rally liberals and
Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV)

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resurrected in 2014 to mobilize voters. And with all the shady foreign money that flowed into the Democrat National Committee and Clinton-Gore re-election campaign in 1996, Hillary Clinton is not exactly a credible voice for good government campaign finance reform measures.Senator Bernie Sanders alleges that “if we don’t overturn Citizens United, Congress will become paid employees of the billionaire class.” Politicians tend to resort to over-the-top rhetoric when they’re not able to back up their position with facts.

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[Mac-7]

It cramps their style.

Before the unions gave them an advantage over the corps but now they have to work harder to win.

[texan]

The same Harry Reid that said this?

Obama, as a black candidate, could be successful thanks, in part, to his "light-skinned" appearance and speaking patterns "with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."

[pjohns]

At least Bernie Sanders--as wrong as he may be, in his socialist leanings--is speaking from conviction; and I tend to admire that. But Hillary Clinton? Give me a break!

And if Harry Reid really thinks that two-thirds of both chambers of Congress will vote for a constitutional amendment overturning Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (in addition to an imprimatur by three-fourths of the states--or 38 of them), then I would really like to know just what he has been smoking...

[Mac-7]

At least Bernie Sanders--as wrong as he may be, in his socialist leanings--is speaking from conviction; and I tend to admire that. But Hillary Clinton? Give me a break!

And if Harry Reid really thinks that two-thirds of both chambers of Congress will vote for a constitutional amendment overturning Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission

(in addition to an imprimatur by three-fourths of the states--or 38 of them), then I would really like to know just what he has been smoking...

Harry Reid is not himself anymore.

Whoever it was that beat the hell out of him seems to have damaged his brain along with rearranging his face.

[Peter1469]

Thinkers on the right also criticize Citizens United. Neither corporations nor unions should be able to donate to politicians.

[zelmo1234]

I agree with peter, but if you tried to take the Union money out of politics the Democrats would scream bloody murder.

Citizens united has had little effect on the national stage, but at the state level it is killing the Democrats.

The Union money made it easy for Democrats to manipulate state elections.

[maineman]

Thinkers on the right also criticize Citizens United. Neither corporations nor unions should be able to donate to politicians.

Key word bolded. The veracity of that statement is borne out in this very thread.

[Peter1469]

I agree with peter, but if you tried to take the Union money out of politics the Democrats would scream bloody murder.

Citizens united has had little effect on the national stage, but at the state level it is killing the Democrats.

The Union money made it easy for Democrats to manipulate state elections.

The Unions pouring money into the DNC likely violates the RICO statutes.

[Mac-7]

The unions can support the democrats "in kind" by knocking on doors and twisting arms.

[maineman]

and folks on the right are incapable of knocking on doors. I think it's a genetic defect or something.

[Mac-7]

and folks on the right are incapable of knocking on doors. I think it's a genetic defect or something.

Conservatives do not have a shop foreman or union boss with a bent nose to make them "volunteer" their free time for the candidate.

[maineman]

I remember once I was working for a democratic state senator in Maine. Maine legislators are part time and my senator's day job was as a union rep for AFSCME. When it came time to put out her signs, all SORTS of blue collared folks came out to help her. We came across two guys putting out signs for her republican opponent, who was a wealthy heiress. She was PAYING her two guys (sub-minimum wage, by the way) to place her signs throughout the community. The heiress outspent the senator by 3:1 but lost miserably in the general election. lol

[maineman]

Conservatives do not have a shop foreman or union boss with a bent nose to make them "volunteer" their free time for the candidate.

you think that the top guy in a business consulting firm can't lean on his underlings?

[Mac-7]

I remember once I was working for a democratic state senator in Maine. Maine legislators are part time and my senator's day job was as a union rep for AFSCME. When it came time to put out her signs, all SORTS of blue collared folks came out to help her. We came across two guys putting out signs for her republican opponent, who was a wealthy heiress. She was PAYING her two guys (sub-minimum wage, by the way) to place her signs throughout the community. The heiress outspent the senator by 3:1 but lost miserably in the general election. lol

What can I say?

Liberals are just naturally herd animals.

[Mac-7]

you think that the top guy in a business consulting firm can't lean on his underlings?

A business consulting firm may only have two or three people.

Most of them are not vast organizations.

But it is possible.

[maineman]

What can I say?

Liberals are just naturally herd animals.

and conservatives are pampered and lazy sub-humans.

[maineman]

A business consulting firm may only have two or three people.

Most of them are not vast organizations.

But it is possible.

my brother in law used to work for Boston Consulting Group. He had to turn out at all sorts of "events" and he was one of hundreds of guys doing so.... and writing big checks to boot.

[Mac-7]

and conservatives are pampered and lazy sub-humans.

At least unlike liberals they still have their individual identity.

[zelmo1234]

and conservatives are pampered and lazy sub-humans.

Actually conservatives are not the ones calling for free stuff all of the time.

So subhuman maybe, but lazy is owned by the democrats.

[Peter1469]

and conservatives are pampered and lazy sub-humans.


Right (http://www.thelifeofjulia.com/).

[maineman]

At least unlike liberals they still have their individual identity.

I am a liberal and I most definitely have an individual identity. I've got a social security number and a driver's license number and a passport number and a mexican residente visa number and tons of credit card numbers that identify me and only me. I actually am unaware of any liberal who has surrendered their individual identity and taken on a borg name.

[Bob]

Thinkers on the right also criticize Citizens United. Neither corporations nor unions should be able to donate to politicians.

Citizens United does not produce products, it is only a corporation to comply with government laws. I personally would not block unions from donating so long as it is the proven will of the members.

[texan]

Harry Reid is not himself anymore.

Whoever it was that beat the hell out of him seems to have damaged his brain along with rearranging his face.

Maybe the face but his Brain was always damaged. His capitulation with Obama's desires screwed up the process making it seem logical (provided cover) for shady changes like the HC bill and the executive orders. He may be the worst well known non patriot than anyone that has ever went to DC.