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Peter1469
05-28-2015, 08:52 PM
2nd Submariner Guilty of Sharing Videos of Women in Shower (http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2015/05/28/2nd_submariner_guilty_of_sharing_videos_of_women_i n_shower_107985.html)
The sailor who took the videos was sentenced to 2 years in jail and a dishonorable discharge. This guy passed the videos along and got 30 days confinement and lost rank.
A second submariner pleaded guilty Wednesday to sharing videos of female officers undressing for a shower, continuing a case that a prosecutor calls a "black eye" for the Navy (http://www.military.com/Community/Home/1,14700,NAVY,00.html)'s integration of women into the nation's sub fleet.
On Tuesday, missile technician Charles Greaves received two years in prison (http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/05/27/sub-sailor-pleads-guilty-gets-2-years-videotaping-female-officer.html) and a dishonorable discharge for making the videos. Greaves worked with lookouts on the sub who notified him when the female officers were done working out and were headed to the showers, prosecutors say. Greaves covered his cellphone in tape and stuck it between a gap in pipes that had a view of the sub's shower area.
The case has been a blight on the Navy's integration of women into the submarine force, which it started in 2011.
Now, the four women officers say the videos have ruined or derailed their careers.
silvereyes
05-29-2015, 12:38 AM
That's all they did him? WTh?
Redrose
05-29-2015, 02:27 AM
Why are they surprised or shocked with what happened. You put young men and women in a sub for months. Hello!! I'm amazed that's all that happened. I guess he got tired of seeing naked men in the showers.
I think it's wrong to put women in those jobs. If they want to work as a man in these careers, then they have to expect crap like that.
The punishment was fair IMO.
Mac-7
05-29-2015, 02:39 AM
2nd Submariner Guilty of Sharing Videos of Women in Shower (http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2015/05/28/2nd_submariner_guilty_of_sharing_videos_of_women_i n_shower_107985.html)
The sailor who took the videos was sentenced to 2 years in jail and a dishonorable discharge. This guy passed the videos along and got 30 days confinement and lost rank.
Two good men lost to the defense of America because of women in the military.
Captain Obvious
05-29-2015, 03:25 AM
Two good men lost to the defense of America because of women in the military.
:jackoff:
donttread
05-29-2015, 03:59 AM
2nd Submariner Guilty of Sharing Videos of Women in Shower (http://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2015/05/28/2nd_submariner_guilty_of_sharing_videos_of_women_i n_shower_107985.html)
The sailor who took the videos was sentenced to 2 years in jail and a dishonorable discharge. This guy passed the videos along and got 30 days confinement and lost rank.
I'm usually all for integration but on a sub? Take a bunch of young macho types locked up in a metal tube for weeks on end , add a few women and presto-magico sex related issues. What's the ratio and how much power do these women now have in this sub?
Ivan88
05-29-2015, 04:28 AM
Two good men lost to the defense of America because of women in the military.
Two good men lost because of retards running the military.
donttread
05-29-2015, 05:09 AM
Two good men lost because of retards running the military.
I don't think "good men" tape chicks in the shower without their knowledge
Mac-7
05-29-2015, 06:12 AM
I don't think "good men" tape chicks in the shower without their knowledge
It depends.
Do you want ass kicking warriors defending country or metro sexual gentleman who can't fight?
Beevee
05-29-2015, 06:18 AM
Two good men lost to the defense of America because of women in the military.
Quite right!
Women have their place in the home, producing babies and catering to a husband's needs.
Sounds almost if not actually the actions that take place in Saudi Arabia.
Congratulations.
Mac-7
05-29-2015, 06:23 AM
Quite right!
Women have their place in the home, producing babies and catering to a husband's needs.
Sounds almost if not actually the actions that take place in Saudi Arabia.
Congratulations.
what you do in Canada is your business.
But for America I'd rather have no women and a winning military than have women in a military that is less combat ready.
Beevee
05-29-2015, 07:05 AM
what you do in Canada is your business.
But for America I'd rather have no women and a winning military than have women in a military that is less combat ready.
Unfortunately, what you do in America is our business since "We are either with you or against you"
Your Republican president made sure of that.
Mac-7
05-29-2015, 07:07 AM
Unfortunately, what you do in America is our business since "We are either with you or against you"
Your Republican president made sure of that.
Liberals forced the military to take women who don't belong there.
Tahuyaman
05-29-2015, 09:22 AM
That's all they did him? WTh?
Two years confinement and a dishonorable discharge. What else should they have done?
Maybe they should have sentenced him to marry the most angry of the women?
PattyHill
05-29-2015, 09:28 AM
Why are they surprised or shocked with what happened. You put young men and women in a sub for months. Hello!! I'm amazed that's all that happened. I guess he got tired of seeing naked men in the showers.
I think it's wrong to put women in those jobs. If they want to work as a man in these careers, then they have to expect crap like that.
The punishment was fair IMO.
Two good men lost to the defense of America because of women in the military.
I'm usually all for integration but on a sub? Take a bunch of young macho types locked up in a metal tube for weeks on end , add a few women and presto-magico sex related issues. What's the ratio and how much power do these women now have in this sub?
Two good men lost because of retards running the military.
It depends.
Do you want ass kicking warriors defending country or metro sexual gentleman who can't fight?
what you do in Canada is your business.
But for America I'd rather have no women and a winning military than have women in a military that is less combat ready.
Liberals forced the military to take women who don't belong there.
Wow. More stupidity than usual on this forum today. These comments are unbelievable.
I think most of us learn pretty early not to videotape people in the shower without their permission. How did the Navy miss the fact that these recruits were assholes when they were first applying?
Trust me, Mac-7, any of those women on the sub could kick your ass to pieces.
Did you all miss the part where 4 women officers say their careers were ruined or derailed? because of these putzes?
Tahuyaman
05-29-2015, 09:35 AM
Leave it her to completely miss a point being made.
Captain Obvious
05-29-2015, 09:36 AM
Wow. More stupidity than usual on this forum today. These comments are unbelievable.
I think most of us learn pretty early not to videotape people in the shower without their permission. How did the Navy miss the fact that these recruits were assholes when they were first applying?
Trust me, Mac-7, any of those women on the sub could kick your ass to pieces.
Did you all miss the part where 4 women officers say their careers were ruined or derailed? because of these putzes?
They should have been barefoot, pregnant and in sandwich making mode anyway.
PolWatch
05-29-2015, 09:37 AM
hmm....do I want our nation defended by immature creeps who think filming females in the shower is acceptable behavior or do I want a professional military organization? If anyone wants to know how the military people feel about that, just walk into any barracks or onto any vessel and tell them you want to film their sisters, wives, & female friends while they shower.
Mac-7
05-29-2015, 09:56 AM
Wow. More stupidity than usual on this forum today. These comments are unbelievable.
I think most of us learn pretty early not to videotape people in the shower without their permission. How did the Navy miss the fact that these recruits were $#@!s when they were first applying?
Trust me, Mac-7, any of those women on the sub could kick your ass to pieces.
Did you all miss the part where 4 women officers say their careers were ruined or derailed? because of these putzes?
Those women
Should on shore not disruption the mission readiness of the submarine fleet
PattyHill
05-29-2015, 10:55 AM
Those women
Should on shore not disruption the mission readiness of the submarine fleet
Might try reviewing your grammar the next time. I wouldn't normally mention it, but I am having a hard time figuring out what you are saying.
I think what you were trying to say was "Those women should be on the shore, not disrupting the mission readiness of the submarine fleet".
However, it's not the women disrupting the mission readiness; it's the jerks who are taking pictures of women in the showers. They are the problem, not the women.
Mac-7
05-29-2015, 11:07 AM
Might try reviewing your grammar the next time. I wouldn't normally mention it, but I am having a hard time figuring out what you are saying.
I think what you were trying to say was "Those women should be on the shore, not disrupting the mission readiness of the submarine fleet".
However, it's not the women disrupting the mission readiness; it's the jerks who are taking pictures of women in the showers. They are the problem, not the women.
Grammar nazi.
And is the women triggering male instincts on the confined quarters of a submarine.
exotix
05-29-2015, 11:09 AM
Nekked Wimmens.
PattyHill
05-29-2015, 11:17 AM
Grammar nazi.
And is the women triggering male instincts on the confined quarters of a submarine.
Not normally. But your sentence was pretty hard to understand. I wanted to make sure I got your meaning correct.
No, it's not the women triggering the male instincts. It's not the women's fault. Haven't you learned anything in your many years of life?
If men can't control themselves, that is the fault of the men, not the women.
Captain Obvious
05-29-2015, 11:22 AM
Not normally. But your sentence was pretty hard to understand. I wanted to make sure I got your meaning correct.
No, it's not the women triggering the male instincts. It's not the women's fault. Haven't you learned anything in your many years of life?
If men can't control themselves, that is the fault of the men, not the women.
Funny thing...
Mac's one of these "war on Christians" parrots but yet he's echoing the Islamo-whack concept that women are responsible for tempting men into thoughts of sex
PolWatch
05-29-2015, 11:28 AM
It seems insulting to men to accept that they are unable to control their reproductive urges. I don't think all men are the same as male dogs around a female dog in heat.
Mac-7
05-29-2015, 11:32 AM
Not normally. But your sentence was pretty hard to understand. I wanted to make sure I got your meaning correct.
No, it's not the women triggering the male instincts. It's not the women's fault. Haven't you learned anything in your many years of life?
If men can't control themselves, that is the fault of the men, not the women.
I'm typing on my iPhone using the mobile app that does not offer edit
But that's not an excuse
I should review every post before sending
Captain Obvious
05-29-2015, 11:33 AM
I'm typing on my iPhone using the mobile app that does not offer edit
But that's not an excuse
I should review every post before sending
You can edit from mobile phones unless you're a tard.
PattyHill
05-29-2015, 11:33 AM
I'm typing on my iPhone using the mobile app that does not offer edit
But that's not an excuse
I should review every post before sending
That explains it. Phones make it hard. Your posts are normally pretty clear of those kind of errors.
Mac-7
05-29-2015, 11:36 AM
You can edit from mobile phones unless you're a tard.
Not after you post it to the forum thread
Captain Obvious
05-29-2015, 11:41 AM
Not after you post it to the forum thread
Wrong, as usual.
You can stop trying now.
Common
05-29-2015, 11:45 AM
I can understand the natural instincts of young men and women confined to a submarine for weeks or maybe months. Its true boys will always be boys and being in a submarine would be especially taxing on your morals.
Having said that military personel are expected to have self discipline and filming women showering isnt to be excused on any level civilian or military.
Adelaide
05-29-2015, 12:26 PM
The idea that men simply can't control themselves is not just insulting to the women who were victims in this case, but also insulting to men. Men are not just a bunch of hormones incapable of good conduct, morality and self-control. Plenty of men are able and do serve beside women without violating them sexually.
There is absolutely no excuse. I'm surprised with some people in this thread.
Why are they surprised or shocked with what happened. You put young men and women in a sub for months. Hello!! I'm amazed that's all that happened. I guess he got tired of seeing naked men in the showers.
I think it's wrong to put women in those jobs. If they want to work as a man in these careers, then they have to expect crap like that.
The punishment was fair IMO.
If we in the Army had part of our building with women living there, and women in showers, a lot of babies would get made. Women can also be pretty aggressive when it comes to sex.
The idea that men simply can't control themselves is not just insulting to the women who were victims in this case, but also insulting to men. Men are not just a bunch of hormones incapable of good conduct, morality and self-control. Plenty of men are able and do serve beside women without violating them sexually.
There is absolutely no excuse. I'm surprised with some people in this thread.
I can't speak for all men
I have personally experienced women so aggressive that they did not care if sex was on my mind or not. It was on theirs and they made that very clear.
PolWatch
05-29-2015, 12:34 PM
I can't speak for all men
I have personally experienced women so aggressive that they did not care if sex was on my mind or not. It was on theirs and they made that very clear.
And this relates to men hiding to take photos of women in the shower....how? Are you implying the women set up the cameras and forced the men to video them?
I can understand the natural instincts of young men and women confined to a submarine for weeks or maybe months. Its true boys will always be boys and being in a submarine would be especially taxing on your morals.
Having said that military personel are expected to have self discipline and filming women showering isnt to be excused on any level civilian or military.
When the word of courts martials getting around, it can slow it. But stop it????
This would mean that it stopped the very aggressive women too.
I tend to think they won't be stopped.
And this relates to men hiding to take photos of women in the shower....how? Are you implying the women set up the cameras and forced the men to video them?
Good grief.
Time for that booze to get looked at.
I simply add to the discussion. Why must I be closely inspected just to participate?
It seems insulting to men to accept that they are unable to control their reproductive urges. I don't think all men are the same as male dogs around a female dog in heat.
Those were two of the crew.
Please, you talk like a person smearing the entire crew.
Adelaide
05-29-2015, 12:40 PM
I can't speak for all men
I have personally experienced women so aggressive that they did not care if sex was on my mind or not. It was on theirs and they made that very clear.
Not sure what this has to do with the topic. I don't agree with the idea that men have so many hormones gushing through their bodies that they can't exercise self-control and behave appropriately. I find it insulting to men to suggest it. Are there people of both sexes who act inappropriately for who knows why? Sure. Was that it?
PattyHill
05-29-2015, 12:44 PM
Those were two of the crew.
Please, you talk like a person smearing the entire crew.
The rest of the crew managed to control themselves and not film the women. We agree.
So those of you defending men who do things like this look like you are defending the rape culture Adelaide described so well.
The problem is not the women on the sub; it's the men who did the videotaping.
Not sure what this has to do with the topic. I don't agree with the idea that men have so many hormones gushing through their bodies that they can't exercise self-control and behave appropriately. I find it insulting to men to suggest it. Are there people of both sexes who act inappropriately for who knows why? Sure. Was that it?
You mean to tell me that out of a large Submarine crew, and where two men were given punishment, that only men qualify to want sex?
I am saying that men, at least in my case, get approached by women intent on getting laid.
Maybe that does not fit what you see, but It has happened to me more than several times.
Don't ask me why but this could have happened to the male crew by women on that same ship.
I would say that most of the men obeyed orders on the ship and did NOT accost women on the ship.
But this entire thread seems to presume all men suffer raging hormones and won't self control.
I simply point out this cuts both ways.
PolWatch
05-29-2015, 12:53 PM
Good grief.
Time for that booze to get looked at.
I simply add to the discussion. Why must I be closely inspected just to participate?
get the booze looked at? Rather weak as far as insults go but if that's the best you can do....
When someone adds to the discussion, it is best if they consider the topic instead of throwing random remarks that seem to imply the women who were videoed are at fault. I can only assume that you are ok with filming naked women without their permission.
PattyHill
05-29-2015, 12:55 PM
You mean to tell me that out of a large Submarine crew, and where two men were given punishment, that only men qualify to want sex?
I am saying that men, at least in my case, get approached by women intent on getting laid.
Maybe that does not fit what you see, but It has happened to me more than several times.
Don't ask me why but this could have happened to the male crew by women on that same ship.
I would say that most of the men obeyed orders on the ship and did NOT accost women on the ship.
But this entire thread seems to presume all men suffer raging hormones and won't self control.
I simply point out this cuts both ways.
I don't remember hearing that the women were videotaping men in the shower.
Adelaide & I are among those saying that men CAN control their hormones; that these two should be punished, not that the rest of the men should be punished.
Talk to your friends on this thread who say that the men are out of control; don't complain to us.
I am so sad that you met so many women so hungry for sex that they attacked you and you couldn't fight them off. But the cases of assault that get publicized from the military are almost all men attacking women.
PattyHill
05-29-2015, 12:56 PM
I guess what I'm trying to say is that your saying "Women want sex too" is irrelevant on this thread.
The rest of the crew managed to control themselves and not film the women. We agree.
So those of you defending men who do things like this look like you are defending the rape culture Adelaide described so well.
The problem is not the women on the sub; it's the men who did the videotaping.
Good grief. Have you watched women at rock concerts?
i don't defend rape. I know very well the men not only disobeyed orders, they had to suffer punishment. I wondered why the partner got only a rank reduction. He seems to me to also deserve 2 years in the jail.
My commentary is that women do approach men.
I did not have it happen daily, and not at all now ... (76 sure slows them down)
But at one point and not to get over the line, this happened
1. Beautiful blond queen of a city and I date. First date at the movies, she tries to remove my clothes. You won't believe me, but I prevented her doing so.
Note
i believe there were more times than I stay but at least i have first hand experience so continue
I am playing cards in Germany with a girl who makes it clear she wants sex. Her dad was a police chief.
A woman from Norway was hired by me. She refused to leave me alone. She wanted sex
A woman client made it clear she wanted sex. Thing was, she was also engaged to marry.
A woman with two sons asked me to her home for a holiday meal. She wanted sex. (she divorced and we lived together for a long time) We broke up since she kept being aggressive with more men.
Two women rented a clients home. I had been asked by the owner to go there for something. It probably was over rent. They were drinking and asked me to drink with them. I says, I should not drink (kidding) that it could get me chasing them around. They promptly handed me a beer. I took off and did not take care of their problem nor return later.
All i am saying is women can and are aggressive.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that your saying "Women want sex too" is irrelevant on this thread.
If you guys want to beat up on all men over what two men did, be my guest.
I don't remember hearing that the women were videotaping men in the shower.
Adelaide & I are among those saying that men CAN control their hormones; that these two should be punished, not that the rest of the men should be punished.
Talk to your friends on this thread who say that the men are out of control; don't complain to us.
I am so sad that you met so many women so hungry for sex that they attacked you and you couldn't fight them off. But the cases of assault that get publicized from the military are almost all men attacking women.
Again, take your focus off me.
i have been reading diatribes that sound as if all men do those things.
They do not.
Why is that so hard?
Normally in the military, they follow orders.
I would have put both in jail.
PolWatch
05-29-2015, 01:09 PM
Unless you are implying that the women on the sub were willing participants in being filmed, your stories are unrelated to the topic.
get the booze looked at? Rather weak as far as insults go but if that's the best you can do....
When someone adds to the discussion, it is best if they consider the topic instead of throwing random remarks that seem to imply the women who were videoed are at fault. I can only assume that you are ok with filming naked women without their permission.
It was only weak because it never was an insult.
I never once claimed the officer being videoed is at fault.
That might be an insult by you though I won't claim it is.
There is no way the officer deserved a thing. Both men were in the wrong.
I never at any point said different.
Unless you are implying that the women on the sub were willing participants in being filmed, your stories are unrelated to the topic.
I guess you can beat up on the entire crew.
I might as well act like you act.
I am not blaming the female officer. She was filmed by thugs.
I don't remember hearing that the women were videotaping men in the shower.
Adelaide & I are among those saying that men CAN control their hormones; that these two should be punished, not that the rest of the men should be punished.
Talk to your friends on this thread who say that the men are out of control; don't complain to us.
I am so sad that you met so many women so hungry for sex that they attacked you and you couldn't fight them off. But the cases of assault that get publicized from the military are almost all men attacking women.
The women were NOT that i know of.
I join both of you by also claiming men can control themselves. Jail is where they go for not obeying orders.
You are sad? I believe what I really said is women can get and are indeed agressive. Women can always be fought off. I never was assaulted nor did I claim to have been.
Most men do not report women acting so aggressive. Males are natures predators.
Still they can in all civil societies, control themselves. They owe it to women to control themselves. I believe it is probable that as some men say, I just was "lucky"
I really am sorry I mentioned this since you guys can keep beating up on men for all I care.
Cthulhu
05-29-2015, 01:20 PM
The navy didn't lose any good men.
That being said, having women in the military is still pretty stupid.
Especially on a submarine where you can't just get a crew transfer at the drop of a hat.
Sent from my evil, kitten eating cell phone.
PolWatch
05-29-2015, 01:21 PM
Bob, you tell me to get the booze looked at....what does that mean if not intended to imply that I'm drinking and my posts reflect that? You should not try to insult people and then try to crawfish away from your own statements.
You have several times remarked that women can be the aggressors....considering the topic is about women who were filmed without their permission, what is the purpose of that statement if not to imply that its the fault of the women taking a shower? Do you think taking a shower is being sexually aggressive? Otherwise, your remarks are totally unrelated to the topic.
The rest of the crew managed to control themselves and not film the women. We agree.
So those of you defending men who do things like this look like you are defending the rape culture Adelaide described so well.
The problem is not the women on the sub; it's the men who did the videotaping.
I am agreeing entirely with you save one minor point.
I am not defending what took place. I would never defend the unlawful filming of women, EM or officer in her private setting. She must have total privacy. The crew were wrong. Totally wrong. Both deserved jail.
I think I am done.
PattyHill
05-29-2015, 01:47 PM
I guess you can beat up on the entire crew.
I might as well act like you act.
I am not blaming the female officer. She was filmed by thugs.
I appreciate that you aren't blaming the female officer and that you are putting blame on the men involved.
And it's not like other people don't also bring in extraneous topics into threads.
But you bringing in to this thread the comment (roughly) that "women can be aggressive about sex too" made it seem like you were downplaying the real offense here.
Apparently we misinterpreted you. Please don't misinterpret us either. PolWatch, Adelaide and I aren't blaming all the men in the sub. We have said we think men can control themselves. Posters like Mac-7 and others are the ones who don't seem to think men can control themselves.
I appreciate that you aren't blaming the female officer and that you are putting blame on the men involved.
And it's not like other people don't also bring in extraneous topics into threads.
But you bringing in to this thread the comment (roughly) that "women can be aggressive about sex too" made it seem like you were downplaying the real offense here.
Apparently we misinterpreted you. Please don't misinterpret us either. PolWatch, Adelaide and I aren't blaming all the men in the sub. We have said we think men can control themselves. Posters like Mac-7 and others are the ones who don't seem to think men can control themselves.
I had not read their remarks. (still have not and more than likely won't read each of the comments)
I think as you think on this topic.
sachem
05-29-2015, 01:55 PM
Quite right!
Women have their place in the home, producing babies and catering to a husband's needs.
Sounds almost if not actually the actions that take place in Saudi Arabia.
Congratulations.You are kidding, right?
PattyHill
05-29-2015, 01:56 PM
You are kidding, right?
I assume Beevee was being sarcastic.
sachem
05-29-2015, 02:04 PM
I assume Beevee was being sarcastic.I hope so. Haven't seen enough of his/her posts to know.
Redrose
05-29-2015, 02:13 PM
I don't think "good men" tape chicks in the shower without their knowledge
Not just taping them, they shared the video. Not nice.
donttread
05-29-2015, 02:27 PM
It depends.
Do you want ass kicking warriors defending country or metro sexual gentleman who can't fight?
Wow!
donttread
05-29-2015, 02:30 PM
Might try reviewing your grammar the next time. I wouldn't normally mention it, but I am having a hard time figuring out what you are saying.
I think what you were trying to say was "Those women should be on the shore, not disrupting the mission readiness of the submarine fleet".
However, it's not the women disrupting the mission readiness; it's the jerks who are taking pictures of women in the showers. They are the problem, not the women.
Really, if your lucky enough to have a woman in shower and a decent memory you don't need the tape. This generation just doesn't get that
Private Pickle
05-29-2015, 02:35 PM
Really, if your lucky enough to have a woman in shower and a decent memory you don't need the tape. This generation just doesn't get that
Sorry what did you say? I was texting...
Common
05-29-2015, 02:35 PM
Really, if your lucky enough to have a woman in shower and a decent memory you don't need the tape. This generation just doesn't get that
I think theres alot of things this generation doesnt get, but theres alot of things they think we were idiots for doing. Shrug and life just keeps recycling
Redrose
05-29-2015, 03:05 PM
I think theres alot of things this generation doesnt get, but theres alot of things they think we were idiots for doing. Shrug and life just keeps recycling
In 1970 there was a new trend for women to wear a lace blouse without a bra. I was 22, and gave into the trend one day. I was in a crowded supermarket, Pathmark, in LI, and lost my nerve. Couldn't wait to get home and get a bra on. Never again. Young and foolish.
PolWatch
05-29-2015, 03:09 PM
In 1970 there was a new trend for women to wear a lace blouse without a bra. I was 22, and gave into the trend one day. I was in a crowded supermarket, Pathmark, in LI, and lost my nerve. Couldn't wait to get home and get a bra on. Never again. Young and foolish.
wild thang! I remember my days of mini-skirts....on good days when the memory works....:wink:
Peter1469
05-29-2015, 03:15 PM
Wrong, as usual.
You can stop trying now.
I can't do crap with my phone on this forum..., but that is not the phone's fault.
PolWatch
05-29-2015, 03:27 PM
I just downloaded tapatalk...if my posts are odd...dumbphone woman in a smartphone world
donttread
05-29-2015, 04:39 PM
Sorry what did you say? I was texting...
I know
donttread
05-29-2015, 04:49 PM
wild thang! I remember my days of mini-skirts....on good days when the memory works....:wink:
The mini skirt was in fact one of the top inventions of the last century buy never gets it's due! Don't worry mini skirt all the straight guys and not so straight women salute you!
Tahuyaman
05-29-2015, 08:13 PM
Might try reviewing your grammar the next time. I wouldn't normally mention it, but I am having a hard time figuring out what you are saying.
I think what you were trying to say was "Those women should be on the shore, not disrupting the mission readiness of the submarine fleet".
However, it's not the women disrupting the mission readiness; it's the jerks who are taking pictures of women in the showers. They are the problem, not the women.
People should be careful about correcting others in their ability to properly apply the English language.
Susan B. Anthony
05-29-2015, 08:16 PM
Gives a whole new meaning to "Up, Periscope."
Beevee
05-31-2015, 08:23 PM
Liberals forced the military to take women who don't belong there.
Really? So voluntary signing up by females is enforced conscription to you but when men are involved, it isn't?
GrassrootsConservative
05-31-2015, 08:24 PM
Really? So voluntary signing up by females is enforced conscription to you but when men are involved, it isn't?
The military wants men. That was his point.
Beevee
05-31-2015, 08:28 PM
The military wants men. That was his point.
Pity he can't communicate that as simply as you can.
Beevee
05-31-2015, 08:29 PM
You are kidding, right?
Have a look to whom I responded, then judge for yourself.
GrassrootsConservative
05-31-2015, 08:31 PM
Pity he can't communicate that as simply as you can.
Maybe it wasn't intended for people that require everything so simple.
maineman
05-31-2015, 09:49 PM
It depends.
Do you want ass kicking warriors defending country or metro sexual gentleman who can't fight?
is part of being an "ass kicking warrior" videotaping women against their consent?
Peter1469
05-31-2015, 09:51 PM
It is a fucking sub. The only warriors on it are the Seals who are only there short term.
maineman
05-31-2015, 09:59 PM
I'd take issue with that, even though I am a surface sailor.... but ass kicking warriors certainly don't do that sort of sick shit.
Peter1469
05-31-2015, 10:04 PM
I'd take issue with that, even though I am a surface sailor.... but ass kicking warriors certainly don't do that sort of sick shit.
Go Army. :wink:
maineman
05-31-2015, 10:08 PM
13 in a row. There are Lieutenant Colonels in the Army who have NEVER known what it feels like to Beat Navy.
Beevee
06-01-2015, 07:49 PM
Maybe it wasn't intended for people that require everything so simple.
So complications are your forte?
Chloe
06-02-2015, 09:24 AM
The fault and blame lies solely on the soldiers who taped the women. The women are not at fault nor do they shoulder any blame. It's not about hormones or male brevado, it's about professionalism, respect, and honor. These male submariners have none of the above. Don't support them.
PolWatch
06-02-2015, 10:55 AM
There are some who think being a sneaky creep is a trait of 'ass kicking warriors'. Who knew being a creep was admirable?
Captain Obvious
06-02-2015, 10:56 AM
There are some who think being a sneaky creep is a trait of 'ass kicking warriors'. Who knew being a creep was admirable?
It's only admirable to other like creeps.
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