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Professor Peabody
05-30-2015, 02:40 PM
House GOP demands criminal investigation into Lois Lerner

By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Thursday, May 28, 2015

Insisting Lois G. Lerner is still a target, congressional Republicans sent a letter to new Attorney General Loretta Lynch Thursday asking her to follow through on their official request last year for a criminal investigation into Ms. Lerner’s behavior at the IRS.

They said Ms. Lerner used her position as a senior executive overseeing tax-exempt groups’ applications to improperly target conservatives for intrusive scrutiny; impeded an official investigation by misleading the inspector general; and may have disclosed confidential taxpayer information by using her private email to conduct official IRS business.

The Justice Department didn’t respond to a request for comment.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may/28/house-gop-demands-criminal-probe-lois-lerner/

I guess we will need to see whether Ms. Lynch is an independent minded Attorney General or just a puppet like Holder but in a Brassiere and Skirt. Just the fact that the Justice dept had no comment doesn't bode well for justice being done at the Justice Dept. Even a canned answer would be better. Like We are exploring every avenue to see if any laws have been broken. However, I think saying that would require answers down the road on where those avenues went. It's my belief that by refusing to comment means they don't intend to do ANYTHING! During her confirmation hearings the Senate should have asked her directly what she intended to do specifically about 1) Obama's Executive amnesty. 2) Lois Lerner and the IRS. 3) Clinton's private eMail server.

Susan B. Anthony
05-30-2015, 03:02 PM
I guess we will need to see whether Ms. Lynch is an independent minded Attorney General or just a puppet like Holder but in a Brassiere and Skirt. Just the fact that the Justice dept had no comment doesn't bode well for justice being done at the Justice Dept. Even a canned answer would be better. Like We are exploring every avenue to see if any laws have been broken. However, I think saying that would require answers down the road on where those avenues went. It's my belief that by refusing to comment means they don't intend to do ANYTHING! During her confirmation hearings the Senate should have asked her directly what she intended to do specifically about 1) Obama's Executive amnesty. 2) Lois Lerner and the IRS. 3) Clinton's private eMail server.

It would have been sexist and racist to ask her such demeaning questions. Only the Sarah Palin's and the Ben Carson's of this world are allowed to be scourged with the frenzied whip of hatred.

Besides, she's busy putting the screws to FIFA.

Tahuyaman
05-30-2015, 03:10 PM
I guess we will need to see whether Ms. Lynch is an independent minded Attorney General or just a puppet like Holder but in a Brassiere and Skirt.

Do you really think Obama would have appointed her if he wasn't absolutely certain that she would toe the line?

silvereyes
05-30-2015, 03:20 PM
I bet shes really hating al gore right now. :)

JDubya
05-30-2015, 03:29 PM
Re: the IRS "scandal", there was no "there" there.

Truth is, the reason why right-wing groups were being looked into more closely is because that's where most of the groups requesting 501C status were associated, many of them questionable.

It's just like why cops concentrate their efforts in predominantly black areas. Because that's where most of the crime happens.

Conservatives love to point out that fact, which is true, BTW, but in this case, they don't want to acknowledge a similar situation when they are the group on the receiving end of the unwanted attention.

Anything to make political hay out of with these people.

Susan B. Anthony
05-30-2015, 03:32 PM
Re: the IRS "scandal", there was no "there" there.

Truth is, the reason why right-wing groups were being looked into more closely is because that's where most of the groups requesting 501C status were associated, many of them questionable.

It's just like why cops concentrate their efforts in predominantly black areas. Because that's where most of the crime happens.

Conservatives love to point out that fact, which is true, BTW, but in this case, they don't want to acknowledge a similar situation when they are the group on the receiving end of the unwanted attention.

Anything to make political hay out of with these people.

Tens of thousands of her emails were accidentally erased. Lost forever.

Peter1469
05-30-2015, 03:41 PM
Re: the IRS "scandal", there was no "there" there.

Truth is, the reason why right-wing groups were being looked into more closely is because that's where most of the groups requesting 501C status were associated, many of them questionable.

It's just like why cops concentrate their efforts in predominantly black areas. Because that's where most of the crime happens.

Conservatives love to point out that fact, which is true, BTW, but in this case, they don't want to acknowledge a similar situation when they are the group on the receiving end of the unwanted attention.

Anything to make political hay out of with these people.

The congressional vote to slash the IRS budget over these abuses indicates that you are incorrect in your claims.

Common
05-30-2015, 04:00 PM
Thats all this house has accomplished is calling for investigations. So far they havent been able to find a pile of shit in a phonebooth. Issa was a fail and the much touted king conservative investigator for the GOP Gowdy another big FAIL. Go for it investigate some more. If that fails you can vote to repeal obama care another 52 times, after all they need something to do

gamewell45
05-30-2015, 04:25 PM
I guess we will need to see whether Ms. Lynch is an independent minded Attorney General or just a puppet like Holder but in a Brassiere and Skirt. Just the fact that the Justice dept had no comment doesn't bode well for justice being done at the Justice Dept. Even a canned answer would be better. Like We are exploring every avenue to see if any laws have been broken. However, I think saying that would require answers down the road on where those avenues went. It's my belief that by refusing to comment means they don't intend to do ANYTHING! During her confirmation hearings the Senate should have asked her directly what she intended to do specifically about 1) Obama's Executive amnesty. 2) Lois Lerner and the IRS. 3) Clinton's private eMail server.

Hey Professor, long time no see. Guess we'll find out in due time how your theory plays out.

JDubya
05-30-2015, 05:02 PM
The congressional vote to slash the IRS budget over these abuses indicates that you are incorrect in your claims.

Yeah, right.

And it was the members of which party in the House who voted overwhelmingly in favor of that?

Tell us another one.

Peter1469
05-30-2015, 05:16 PM
Yeah, right.

And it was the members of which party in the House who voted overwhelmingly in favor of that?

Tell us another one.

Dems voted for it too, and more importantly they didn't raise a stink about it. The cut was largely ignored by the press at the time....

Oops.... :shocked:

zelmo1234
05-30-2015, 05:23 PM
You know what is interesting is that only the 501C groups that had the word Tea Party, Patriot, or Conservative in them were held up! 100's of republican leaning groups. and 2 Democratic ones.

And the Emails were lost. Which is really just a shame. And then because nothing was wrong or hidden, Lerner takes the 5th. But only after making a statement saying the she did nothing wrong.

Now I for one think that this should be dropped? I know that my fellow conservatives think that we should actually find out why, but I don't

And the reason is this. I don't think that Hilary is likeable enough to get over 50% of the vote. And if we get a Republican in the WH, It want them to have this power

Just imagine 1 year before an election putting all of the Unions under IRS investigation and freezing all of their funds. And then revoking the tax exempt status of planed parenthood, Code Pink, and all of the Soro's fronts.

The Democrats will have to run that elections on $348.31 per candidate. It will be the biggest landslide in the history of the country. And when it is all done and the few left in congress are crying for justice?

Just delete the emails and claim the 5th!

Peter1469
05-30-2015, 05:29 PM
Only (D)s can get away with those tactics. The "news" won't allow it.

Tahuyaman
05-30-2015, 05:30 PM
I bet shes really hating al gore right now. :)

Why would that be?

Tahuyaman
05-30-2015, 05:32 PM
Re: the IRS "scandal", there was no "there" there.


according to the left, there's no " there there" with every incident of corruption from any Democrat ever.

zelmo1234
05-30-2015, 05:33 PM
Only (D)s can get away with those tactics. The "news" won't allow it.

Yes but the damage will be done. And with the absolute hoops they are jumping through to try and make this and the Hilary Emails, and all of the corruption that is happening in the DNC right now seem like there is nothing to look at.

Standing in front of them and saying? What difference at this point does it make, would be really fun.

Can't you just see the look on their faces when you say. I expect to be treated the same way as Hillary and Lois were, No further questions!

PolWatch
05-30-2015, 05:52 PM
Politics & the IRS....a long history of abuse (equal opportunity too):

There's no evidence that President Coolidge personally directed the IRS (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Internal+Revenue+Service) to punish political enemies. But his Treasury secretary – banker and industrialist Andrew Mellon (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Andrew+Mellon) – had no such scruples. Secretary Mellon's target was Sen. James Couzens (R) of Michigan (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Michigan), a former general manager of the Ford Motor Co. (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Ford+Motor+Company) and a fellow millionaire who launched a congressional probe of tax rebates given to Mellon companies during World War I. The investigation revealed that Mellon had misrepresented the extent to which he was still involved in the management of his own companies, such as Alcoa (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Alcoa+Inc.), prompting calls for his resignation on the eve of the 1924 presidential vote.

President Roosevelt used the IRS (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Internal+Revenue+Service) against a host of political rivals and business opponents, ranging from populist Sen. Huey Long (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Huey+Long) (D) of Louisiana (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Louisiana), United Mine Workers (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/United+Mine+Workers+of+America) leader John Lewis (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/John+Lewis), Rep. Hamilton Fish (R) of New York (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/New+York), Chicago Tribune (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Tribune+Company) publisher Robert "Colonel" McCormick, Philadelphia Inquirer (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/The+Philadelphia+Inquirer) publisher Moses Annenberg (a fierce opponent of the New Deal (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/The+New+Deal)), and, most famously, former Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Andrew+Mellon).

When Robert Kennedy (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Robert+F.+Kennedy), as chief counsel of the Senate Select Committee on Improper Activities in Labor and Management, went after Teamsters leader Jimmy Hoffa (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Jimmy+Hoffa) in the late 1950s, he called 1,500 witnesses and generated 20,000 pages of testimony, but failed to produce a conviction. As attorney general in the Kennedy administration, he immediately established an elite "Get Hoffa" squad in the Justice Department (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/U.S.+Department+of+Justice), including tapping the IRS (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Internal+Revenue+Service) to add tax evasion to the arsenal against Mr. Hoffa.

President Nixon (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Richard+Nixon) took the Kennedy-era IRS political strike force and redirected it to target left-wing groups. But Nixon appears to have targeted a wider range of "enemy" groups for tax audits, including antiwar groups (and the churches and other nonprofits that sheltered them), civil rights groups, reporters, and prominent Democrats.

President Clinton (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Bill+Clinton), himself the target of one of the most costly and lengthy investigations in US (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/United+States) history, denied using the IRS (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Internal+Revenue+Service) against political enemies, especially those involved in the Whitewater probe.

In a throwback to the Nixon era, the Bush administration appears to have targeted the All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Pasadena), Calif. (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/California), for criticism of President Bush (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/George+W.+Bush) on the eve of the 2004 election. In a case that drew congressional attention, the IRS threatened to revoke the church’s tax-exempt status after the Rev. George Regas, the rector at the time, told the congregation that Jesus would have called the Bush doctrine of preemptive war “a failed doctrine.”

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/DC-Decoder/2013/0517/Playing-the-IRS-card-Six-presidents-who-used-the-IRS-to-bash-political-foes

Peter1469
05-30-2015, 05:56 PM
A good reason to simply our tax code and gut the IRS.

PolWatch
05-30-2015, 05:59 PM
A good reason to simply our tax code and gut the IRS.

I don't expect to see that happen. Tax law is one way politicians reward their supporters.

hanger4
05-30-2015, 06:11 PM
Thats all this house has accomplished is calling for investigations. So far they havent been able to find a pile of shit in a phonebooth. Issa was a fail and the much touted king conservative investigator for the GOP Gowdy another big FAIL. Go for it investigate some more. If that fails you can vote to repeal obama care another 52 times, after all they need something to do
You bet-ga Common and the WH and State Dept and IRS have been bending over backwards to supply all the docs and info asked for. Didn't Obama talk all over the transparency game or was that just a figment of his imagination ??

Peter1469
05-30-2015, 06:12 PM
I don't expect to see that happen. Tax law is one way politicians reward their supporters.

And punish their enemies....

Cigar
05-30-2015, 06:15 PM
Nag Nag Nag

Whine Bitch and Complain

Wemen :laugh:

Peter1469
05-30-2015, 06:16 PM
Nag Nag Nag

Whine Bitch and Complain

Wemen :laugh:


Trolling again ^^^^

PolWatch
05-30-2015, 06:16 PM
The only change we will see with this situation is which party is pointing fingers. The party in power denies doing anything and the party out of power just plans for when they can return the favor.

Bob
05-30-2015, 06:27 PM
Re: the IRS "scandal", there was no "there" there.

Truth is, the reason why right-wing groups were being looked into more closely is because that's where most of the groups requesting 501C status were associated, many of them questionable.

It's just like why cops concentrate their efforts in predominantly black areas. Because that's where most of the crime happens.

Conservatives love to point out that fact, which is true, BTW, but in this case, they don't want to acknowledge a similar situation when they are the group on the receiving end of the unwanted attention.

Anything to make political hay out of with these people.

Before you fly off all wild and woolly, she is who took the 5th and refused to testify.

Bob
05-30-2015, 06:28 PM
The only change we will see with this situation is which party is pointing fingers. The party in power denies doing anything and the party out of power just plans for when they can return the favor.

When is the last time a Republican refused to testify to Congress by taking the 5th?

Bob
05-30-2015, 06:30 PM
I don't expect to see that happen. Tax law is one way politicians reward their supporters.

Yup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5-5a6Q54BM

PolWatch
05-30-2015, 06:33 PM
how many times has that same video been posted? 5....10....more?

zelmo1234
05-30-2015, 06:36 PM
how many times has that same video been posted? 5....10....more?

And yet it is still true. What we can't do as a nations is continue on the same path and expect anything to change.

PolWatch
05-30-2015, 06:40 PM
Bob posts the same video at least twice a month.....sometimes 3 times a day. You watch it, because no one else will.

Professor Peabody
06-03-2015, 05:08 AM
Do you really think Obama would have appointed her if he wasn't absolutely certain that she would toe the line?

No, she would have ended up in the rubbish bin.

Professor Peabody
06-03-2015, 05:10 AM
Hey Professor, long time no see. Guess we'll find out in due time how your theory plays out.

I have been around. The Professor is in such high demand, I have to ration my time between sites.