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Don
06-02-2015, 02:16 PM
https://youtu.be/PfmywzjdtRM

Redrose
06-02-2015, 02:40 PM
That is just the beginning. One man said something that should light a fire under our idiot politicians, when asked if we (America) should make it illegal to insult the prophet Mohammad, the man responded "yes, of course.....to STOP YOUR AGGRESSION". To STOP OUR AGGRESSION, really? This is America, they come here to overtake us, not assimilate like immigrants are supposed to do.

You don't marry a person to change them, and you don't come to American to change us to fit your culture.

We better wake up very soon.

Common
06-02-2015, 02:59 PM
That is just the beginning. One man said something that should light a fire under our idiot politicians, when asked if we (America) should make it illegal to insult the prophet Mohammad, the man responded "yes, of course.....to STOP YOUR AGGRESSION". To STOP OUR AGGRESSION, really? This is America, they come here to overtake us, not assimilate like immigrants are supposed to do.

You don't marry a person to change them, and you don't come to American to change us to fit your culture.

We better wake up very soon.

The cops aint taking the bullets for the cop haters anymore, they will be holding on to their donuts, but thats what they want non aggressive police.

After all when your in deep shit you call the thug hotline not 911

Brett Nortje
06-02-2015, 03:21 PM
I think they do not know what they are talking about. if you were to draw a picture of jesus, it is to give credit and worship to him. if you were to draw a picture of mona lisa, then it is to give credit to them. if you draw a picture of mohammed, then that must be for religious reasons - imagine a little girl drawing a picture of her prophet and then being told she may not.

Does the queen of england like to be photographed? everyone likes to appear in media! even the wise men like to get in the news. must be the same way for their prophet, yes?

Now, a cartoon is something mature. it is taking someone that is known of and relating a teaching to them. if nelson mandela was to be drawn stealing, and he was then related to sepp blatter, then it is for everyone to enjoy, yes? if mohammed was to be drawn with horns on his head, it is to symbolize that the people do not know if the people that follow him are good or evil, as killing people is not social living.

If the cartoon i also saw about mohammed telling people there are not enough virgins for the suicide bombers. this obviously means that there are too many people 'giving' their lives while taking others. this is about loving, and doing the right thing to help those around you.

If i were to draw a cartoon about muslims, then i would say that they are too excited. there is a deep yearning for something out there, something their religion gives them. it is like a little child crying because his family is fat, or that his sister got to draw, or drew badly, their local hero, yes?

They need to mature. from watching the video it seems that cartoons lead to violence, and women should be treated as assets. well, as far as 'human resources' go, you may deny marriage to some, and encourage marriage with others in any culture, so this is not a problem.

If someone was to describe sharia law, then they would have to say it is barbaric in western eyes. if they were to observe that there was no sharia law before Mohammed, then they just went to jail. today they just go to jail. if they were to look at this blip in history, the whole world would be maimed, or, we would have total peace. but, if the people wanting sharia law cannot lead by example, then what is sharia law?

This is where someone wants to live happily by making other change. quite natural. all the people that want peace are turning to violence. the changes to economies would be slight too. what would change?

If they seek change, then they need to vote for it. there are countless sharia law advocates in the near east - they could form a party, yes? then they can have sharia law - if voted in. i personally think living in a society where there is total peace is wonderful, in fact;

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Saudi-Arabia/United-States/Crime

There is hardly any crime in saudi arabia.


The following is a summary of the application of sharia by country.Since the early Islamic states of the eighth and ninth centuries, sharia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia) always existed alongside other normative systems.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-1) Most Muslim-majority countries adopt various aspects of sharia. According to BBC, some countries adopt only a few aspects of Sharia, others apply the entire code.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-rightto-2)
Within Sharia law, some crimes are known as the hudud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudud) crimes, for which there are specific penalties specified by Islam. For example, fornication (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fornication) is punished by stoning, the consumption of alcohol by lashing, and theft by the amputation of limbs. Many predominantly Muslim countries have not adopted hudud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudud) penalties in their criminal justice systems.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-rightto-2)Ali Mazrui (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Mazrui) stated that "most Muslim countries do not use traditional classical Islamic punishments".[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-PateGould2012-3) The harshest penalties are enforced with varying levels of consistency.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-4) The use of flogging (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellation) is more common compared to punishments like amputations.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-PateGould2012-3)
The adoption and demand for sharia in the legal system of nations with significant Muslim-minorities is an active topic of international debate, and an active goal of Islamist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamist)movements globally.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-5) Attempts to introduce or expand sharia have been accompanied by controversy,[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-6) violence,[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-7) and even warfare.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-8) Most countries of the world do not recognize sharia; however, some countries in Asia, Africa and Europe recognize sharia and use it as the basis for divorce, inheritance and other personal affairs of their Islamic population.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_of_sharia_law_by_country#cite_note-9)

So, there are no amputations! just flogging. it worked on your kids...

I see nothing wrong with sharia law, it is old school, but newer and older than jail time.

Chris
06-02-2015, 03:25 PM
If they prefer Somalia or Saudi Arabia, then that's where they should go.

I wonder if they are free to go there?

Common Sense
06-02-2015, 03:37 PM
I take these agenda driven videos with a grain of salt. I could go into anyone's neighborhood and ask kids questions and frame your area as being full of lunatics.

Muslims, like any other group, have a variety of viewpoints.

But the film maker does his job well. He convinces those who already share his viewpoint that they are right. It's sort of simplistic...so I see why it's appealing to some.

Chris
06-02-2015, 03:47 PM
I take these agenda driven videos with a grain of salt. I could go into anyone's neighborhood and ask kids questions and frame your area as being full of lunatics.

Muslims, like any other group, have a variety of viewpoints.

But the film maker does his job well. He convinces those who already share his viewpoint that they are right. It's sort of simplistic...so I see why it's appealing to some.

I do think the video a bit slanted and that many Muslim seek assimilation.

But there was a basic contradiction in what some in the video said about loving American for it's freedom and their wanting it restricted.

Common Sense
06-02-2015, 03:48 PM
I do think the video a bit slanted and that many Muslim seek assimilation.

But there was a basic contradiction in what some in the video said about loving American for it's freedom and their wanting it restricted.

Lots of people want laws to conform to their views.

Chris
06-02-2015, 03:49 PM
Lots of people want laws to conform to their views.

They should all leave. :D

Private Pickle
06-02-2015, 03:52 PM
The cops aint taking the bullets for the cop haters anymore, they will be holding on to their donuts, but thats what they want non aggressive police.

After all when your in deep shit you call the thug hotline not 911

I'd rather the be eating donuts then gunning down unarmed people in the streets.

magicmike
06-02-2015, 04:33 PM
You people aren't very smart. Otherwise you'd know he's a satirist ala' Sasha Baron Cohen.

Its not real

Common Sense
06-02-2015, 04:35 PM
You people aren't very smart. Otherwise you'd know he's a satirist ala' Sasha Baron Cohen.

Its not real

He's actually not a satirist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ami_Horowitz

Chris
06-02-2015, 06:01 PM
You people aren't very smart. Otherwise you'd know he's a satirist ala' Sasha Baron Cohen.

Its not real

What knowing the interviewer got to do with smarts? Not a very smart use of the word.

waltky
04-01-2017, 03:53 PM
Cholera outbreak in Somalia...


Cholera Spreads in Famine-threatened Somalia
March 31, 2017 — Deadly cholera is spreading through drought-ravaged Somalia as clean water sources dry up, a top aid official said, deepening a humanitarian crisis in a country that is on the verge of famine.


The Horn of Africa nation has recorded more than 18,000 cases of cholera so far this year, up from around 15,000 in all of 2016 and 5,000 in a normal year, Johan Heffinck, the Somalia head of EU Humanitarian Aid, said in an email on Thursday. The current strain of the disease is unusually deadly, killing around 1 in 45 patients. Somalia is suffering from a severe drought that means more than half of its 12 million citizens are expected to need aid by July. Families have been forced to drink slimy, infected water after the rains failed and wells and rivers dried up. "We are very close to famine," Heffinck said.



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Internally displaced Somali women gather to collect water from a plastic pan after fleeing from drought stricken regions near a makeshift camp in Baidoa, west of Somalia's capital Mogadishu



The Security Information Network (FSIN), which is co-sponsored by the United Nations food agency, said in a report on Friday Somalia was one of four African countries at high risk of famine. Somalia's rainy season normally runs from March to May, but there has been no rain this month. The drought has hit particularly hard in the breakaway northern region of Somaliland, where the rains began to fail in 2015, killing off animals that nomadic families rely on to survive.


'This is the last bottle'


Listless, skinny children last week lay in crowded wards in the main hospital in the regional capital Hargeisa. Three-year-old Nimaan Hassid had diarrhea for 20 days before his mother brought him to hospital. He weighs only 6.5 kilograms, less than half the normal weight for his age. Doctors say he is suffering from severe malnutrition but his grandmother, 60-year-old Fadumo Hussein, told Reuters the family has no money for food or clean water. "We don't have mineral water to give to the sick child. This is the last bottle," she said, carefully pouring it into a feeding tube inserted through his nose. In the malnutrition ward in the general hospital of Somaliland's second city Burao, Doctor Hamud Ahmed said children were also being hit hard by diseases like tuberculosis, meningitis and measles.


Children's admissions reached almost 60 in March, up fourfold from October. "This is due to the drought," Ahmed said. "When families lose all their livestock and children do not get milk, this is the famine that causes the children to suffer." If the rains fail, the country could tip into famine. Somalia's last famine, in 2011, killed more than 260,000 people. Heffinck said aid agencies were working overtime to try to prevent a similar disaster, trucking in clean water and stepping up the distribution of food and cash. "The big difference this time is that we have started the preparation and scaling up of the relief operations earlier," he said.


http://www.voanews.com/a/cholera-spreads-famine-threatened-somalia/3791393.html


See also:


How Ebola Impacted Liberia's Appetite for Bushmeat
March 31, 2017 - When Ebola struck Liberia, consumption of bushmeat dropped dramatically. But in an odd twist, poorer households cut their consumption much more than well-to-do households.


The findings have implications for public health, as well as wildlife conservation. Education campaigns about the risks and consequences of bushmeat hunting have focused on rural villagers near protected nature reserves. But, it turns out, the more tenacious consumers may be the wealthier city-dwellers. Bushmeat — wild animals like monkeys, duikers and pangolins — is an essential protein source for many rural West Africans, but it's also a favorite of urbanites.



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Alice Jallabah, head of a bushmeat seller group, holds dried bushmeat on Oct. 7, 2014, in Monrovia. The outbreak of the Ebola virus in Liberia led to a ban on eating bushmeat.



Satisfying that demand has created, in some places, "empty forests" that are otherwise pristine but are devoid of critical wildlife. In addition, bushmeat can spread diseases like Ebola because, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "human infections have been associated with hunting, butchering and processing meat from infected animals." Before the 2015 Ebola outbreak, Jessica Junker and her colleagues at the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology based in Leipzig, Germany, had studied Liberians' preferences for bushmeat compared to chicken or fish.


Tradition, taste


"We asked people, 'If you were at a party and you could choose the type of meat you could eat there, what would you like to eat?'" Junker told VOA. That scenario aimed to take cost out of the equation. Bushmeat often topped the list. People prefer the taste, Junker said. Bushmeat also is often cheaper than domesticated meat. Plus, it's a traditional part of their diet. "Many people have told me, 'Well, we've always eaten bushmeat. Our fathers have eaten bushmeat,'" Junker said. When Ebola hit, she decided it would be a good time to see how attitudes toward eating wildlife had changed. Bushmeat consumption dropped, as expected. However, it dropped less among wealthier people.


Rich or poor, before Ebola, people said they ate bushmeat every other day on average. During the outbreak, that dropped to once a month among the lowest-income survey respondents, but once a week among the highest-income respondents. It's not clear why that should be, but Junker notes that poorer people hunt bushmeat themselves. "During the Ebola crisis, a lot of people didn't leave their houses," she said. In the cities, it was illegal to sell bushmeat. But "there was an underground bushmeat market," she said. "If you wanted to get bushmeat, you could still get it," as long as you had money.


Awareness campaigns (http://www.voanews.com/a/liberia-ebola-bushmeat-consumption/3791022.html)

donttread
04-01-2017, 07:11 PM
How do you get so protective of such a sinful prophet with no regard for human rights that you condone responding to his chacterization with violence or jail?
Maybe that's what it takes to supress questioning the teachings of the prophet , which were clearly not peaceful or even at times sane. To question them is to expose them for what they are.