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Peter1469
06-06-2015, 09:17 AM
Well, at least for those (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/) who buy eggs from commercial factory farms. No rationing with free range farms.


In recent days, an ominous sign has appeared throughout Texas. "Eggs [are] not for commercial sale," read warnings, printed on traditional 8 1/2-by-11-inch pieces of white paper and posted at H-E-B grocery stores across Texas. "The purchase of eggs is limited to 3 cartons of eggs per customer."


H-E-B, which operates some 350 supermarkets, is one of the largest chains not only in the state, but in the whole country. And it has begun, as the casual but foreboding notices warn, to ration its eggs.


"The United States is facing a temporary disruption in the supply of eggs due to the Avian Flu," a statement released on Thursday said. "H-E-B is committed to ensuring Texas families and households have access to eggs. The signs placed on our shelves last week are to deter commercial users from buying eggs in bulk."



The avian flu has not greatly affected the free range chicken stock.

PattyHill
06-06-2015, 10:15 AM
I get mine from a local free range egg producer, thank goodness. Pricier, but tastier.

Sucks that so many chickens had to die. But with commercial farming practices, disease can spread fast. Of course, that's why commercial eggs are cheap too, which many people need.

southwest88
06-06-2015, 10:34 AM
Yep. In a related note, more & more fast-food US outlets are reducing or eliminating the use of antibiotics in their chicken suppliers. This is a good thing: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_(food)#Health :

"Antibiotic resistance

"Information obtained by the Canadian Integrated Program for Antimicrobial Resistance (CIPARS) "strongly indicates that cephalosporin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cephalosporin) resistance in humans is moving in lockstep with use of the drug in poultry production." According to the Canadian Medical Association Journal, the unapproved antibiotic ceftiofur (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceftiofur) is routinely injected into eggs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_(food)) in Quebec and Ontario to discourage infection of hatchlings. Although the data are contested by the industry, antibiotic resistance in humans appears to be directly related to the antibiotic's use in eggs.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_(food)#cite_note-16)

"A recent study by the Translational Genomics Research Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translational_Genomics_Research_Institute) showed that nearly half (47%) of the meat and poultry in US grocery stores was contaminated with S. aureus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staphylococcus_aureus), with more than half (52%) of those bacteria resistant to antibiotics.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_(food)#cite_note-17)"

(My emphasis - details @ the URL)

Any reduction in antibiotics fed to our food animals is a good thing in & of itself. We may have to pay more for meat, milk, etc., but the tradeoffs are in our favor, in terms of cutting into bacterial antibiotic resistance. As no new broad-spectrum antibiotics are in the testing/evaluation pipeline TMK, this makes stretching out the effective field lifetime of the antibiotics we do have more & more important.

Crepitus
06-06-2015, 10:39 AM
Pop has chickens. I get more eggs than i need.

Common
06-06-2015, 11:44 AM
I bought eggs today same brand Egglands Best they were 40cts higher than last week thats about 15% increase on the extra large.

Peter1469
06-06-2015, 12:45 PM
I bought eggs today same brand Egglands Best they were 40cts higher than last week thats about 15% increase on the extra large.

I imagine they will go up even more. That is a major factory farm- the type with the open door at the far end of a huge warehouse with 20,000 chickens inside. Maybe 5 figure out how to get outside.

Big target for avian flu.

The Sage of Main Street
06-06-2015, 12:54 PM
I bought eggs today same brand Egglands Best they were 40cts higher than last week that's about 15% increase on the extra large. Now you may understand that these scare stories are mostly motivated by a Greedhead scheme to increase profit margins. We've failed to develop an antibiotic to the avarus ​virus.

Peter1469
06-06-2015, 12:57 PM
Now you may understand that these scare stories are mostly motivated by a Greedhead scheme to increase profit margins. We've failed to develop an antibiotic to the avarus ​virus.

You got it backwards. For the sake of profits we created these massive commercial factory farm operations. They breed sickly, weak birds/animals. And a lot of us eat them.

PattyHill
06-06-2015, 01:54 PM
So Foster Farms is now saying its chicken is antibiotic free; and they have organic chickens. They're pretty much it for chicken in my store; dare I hope they are right?
http://www.fosterfarms.com/

Peter1469
06-06-2015, 01:55 PM
So Foster Farms is now saying its chicken is antibiotic free; and they have organic chickens. They're pretty much it for chicken in my store; dare I hope they are right?
http://www.fosterfarms.com/

Don't know.

I get my eggs from local farmers. Small operations.

PattyHill
06-06-2015, 02:27 PM
Don't know.

I get my eggs from local farmers. Small operations.


I get my eggs that way. But m provider doesn't often have chickens available.

Peter1469
06-06-2015, 02:44 PM
I get my eggs that way. But m provider doesn't often have chickens available.

Many times mine only has whole chickens. I haven't don't that for a while, but I should. This week I got 4 leg-thigh quarters. And eggs.

southwest88
06-06-2015, 05:17 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=1123227#post1123227) "Now you may understand that these scare stories are mostly motivated by a Greedhead scheme to increase profit margins. We've failed to develop an antibiotic to the avarus ​virus."

Well, if it's truly a virus (avian flu), then there isn't an antibiotic that will control it. The mechanism for viral infections is different from bacterial infection - typically a killed or weakened vaccine (a version) of the virus is administered, to stimulate the production of antibodies for that specific virus. I'm not sure how that would work in domestic chickens - & you'd have to have FDA & Dept. Ag permission & a lot of testing to make sure there were no viral residues left in the meat.

It may simply not be worth it economically; it's possibly cheaper to destroy the infected animals & start over with a clean slate, so to speak.

PattyHill
06-06-2015, 05:26 PM
Many times mine only has whole chickens. I haven't don't that for a while, but I should. This week I got 4 leg-thigh quarters. And eggs.


You're a lucky man!

PolWatch
06-06-2015, 07:27 PM
Things like this make me glad I have friends that raise chickens, some that raise quail, and lots of local truck farmers for produce!

Hal Jordan
06-06-2015, 09:46 PM
That's it. I'm pissed. I'm gonna go egg their houses.

Captain Obvious
06-06-2015, 10:33 PM
I dunno, I was at the grocery store and they had a whole wall of eggs.

Common
06-07-2015, 04:55 AM
You got it backwards. For the sake of profits we created these massive commercial factory farm operations. They breed sickly, weak birds/animals. And a lot of us eat them.

I think your both right, they pack the birds in hellholes of disease and then when they get sick, they Over state it to make even more off what they created

The Sage of Main Street
06-07-2015, 02:13 PM
http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by The Sage of Main Street http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=1123227#post1123227) "Now you may understand that these scare stories are mostly motivated by a Greedhead scheme to increase profit margins. We've failed to develop an antibiotic to the avarus ​virus."

Well, if it's truly a virus (avian flu), then there isn't an antibiotic that will control it. The mechanism for viral infections is different from bacterial infection - typically a killed or weakened vaccine (a version) of the virus is administered, to stimulate the production of antibodies for that specific virus. I'm not sure how that would work in domestic chickens - & you'd have to have FDA & Dept. Ag permission & a lot of testing to make sure there were no viral residues left in the meat.

It may simply not be worth it economically; it's possibly cheaper to destroy the infected animals & start over with a clean slate, so to speak. Don't trick us into giving up on destroying avarice. That's what the Greedheads want us to do. We Won't Live Free Until the 1% Live in Fear​.

How much is avarice caused by forced deprivation? Years of college poverty make the graduate obsessed with making up for that and going overboard in his acquired addiction.