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Cigar
07-20-2012, 08:09 AM
The Romney campaign and conservative bloggers have been feasting on a selectively-edited quote (http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/07/16/525181/conservatives-selectively-edit-obamas-speech-to-claim-he-hates-small-businesses/) from President Obama to argue that he believes that the government, not business owners, are responsible for the success of their enterprises. Though Obama’s comment — “if you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else did that” — accurately observed that businesses large and small rely on public infrastructure funded by taxpayer dollars, Republicans have used the statement to reinforce their ‘Obama hates businesses’ narrative.

But during a campaign appearance in Ohio on Wednesday, Mitt Romney misquoted Obama, before agreeing that tax payer-funded programs help all American businesses succeed:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui-3I2qs8jU&feature=player_embedded


ROMNEY: I know that you recognize a lot of people help you in a business. Perhaps the bank, the investors. There is no question your mom and dad, your school teachers. The people who provide roads, the fire, the police. A lot of people help. But let me ask you this. Did you build your business? If you did, raise your hand. Take that Mr. President! This is what’s happening in this country. These people are entrepreneurs.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/18/543131/romney-agrees-with-obama-government-does-help-you-in-a-business/?tw_p=twt

Romney has also proposed deep reductions in government spending and has even said that the nation must “cut back (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/06/08/496799/romney-says-america-doesnt-need-more-fireman-more-policemen-more-teachers/)” on firemen, policemen and teachers.
Is Mitt Romney soo stupid that he doesn't know his own Town-Hall are Video Taped ... ? What a Fucking Moron. :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Mainecoons
07-20-2012, 08:14 AM
Please provide a complete quote, in context, where Romney said the nation must cut back of firemen, teachers and policemen. No more lying by omission, please.

Cigar
07-20-2012, 08:32 AM
Please provide a complete quote, in context, where Romney said the nation must cut back of firemen, teachers and policemen. No more lying by omission, please.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/08/mitt-romney-mocks-obama_n_1582045.html

After saying President Barack Obama does not care about the private sector, Mitt Romney on Friday dismissed unemployment in the public sector, saying the country does not need more firemen, policemen or teachers.


"He wants another stimulus, he wants to hire more government workers," Romney said at a press conference (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/08/romney-on-obama-is-he-really-that-out-of-touch/). "He says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It's time for us to cut back on government and help the American people."

Agravan
07-20-2012, 08:41 AM
Selectively edited? Looks like a direct quote of obama to me, completely unlike your "selectively edited" quote of Romney saying we need to cut back on police, firemen and teachers.
Little bit of hypocrisy going on here, ain't there?

MMC
07-20-2012, 08:54 AM
First off Republicans have never said there wasn't a need for Government. But when Cigar can get down explaining How it is the feds jobs to do what Local Government does then he might have some ground to stand on. So Romney is correct. It is not the Job of the Federal Government to create these types of Jobs. Also Obama falsified the statement of saying the Hiring of Teachers creates jobs.

But now Obama saying that no man can build a buisness without the help of government. Thats another story. This falls off into that it takes a community thing. To Bad Obama hasn't clarified his remarks and has DOUBLE DOWN on the statement and his taking all the hits including from Liberal Media Sources.

Cigar
07-20-2012, 08:56 AM
:but::but::but::but::but::but:

Trinnity
07-20-2012, 08:59 AM
First off Republicans have never said there wasn't a need for Government. But when Cigar can get down explaining How it is the feds jobs to do what Local Government does then he might have some ground to stand on. He can start with the Aurora Colorado theater shooting. I'll wait.

Chris
07-20-2012, 09:03 AM
The Romney campaign and conservative bloggers have been feasting on a selectively-edited quote from President Obama to argue that he believes that the government, not business owners, are responsible for the success of their enterprises.

Lie. Obama said it, as you even say immediately next:



Romney Agrees With Obama: Government Does ‘Help You In A Business’

Can you connect your claim Romney agrees with what Obama said, to what he actually said?

MMC
07-20-2012, 09:05 AM
:but::but::but::but::but::but:


Still think its' the Job of the Fed to Hire Firefighters, Police Officers, and teachers? :f_doh: Where does it say in those enumerated powers that the Fed can do this? :f_whistle: No Buts.....to it. Just the usual Democratic Lie they have been using for the last 50 years. :studying:

Mainecoons
07-20-2012, 09:10 AM
Well, if he said it, good for him. We don't need more government workers of any kind, particularly the ones who sit on their ass at city hall. And we don't need a bankrupt Federal government printing money to hire teachers, police or firemen. That belongs at the local level where people can decide best for themselves and their communities whether they want to pay for these "services."

Cigar, take a look at how much money y'all spend on these "services" in Chicago. Put your politics aside for a moment and ask yourself this question as a consumer of these "services."

Are you getting your money's worth? Do you really need all those "managers" downtown? Would you need as many police if your liberal justice system didn't just turn the criminals loose as soon as the cops pick them up?

Cigar
07-20-2012, 09:12 AM
Hay ... if you want Pizza to come when you dial 911 ... then it's OK with me.

I personally believe every Conservative should get Exactly the amount of Government they want ... especially when eating Meat, Drinking Water and Flying. :)

MMC
07-20-2012, 09:41 AM
Hay ... if you want Pizza to come when you dial 911 ... then it's OK with me.

I personally believe every Conservative should get Exactly the amount of Government they want ... especially when eating Meat, Drinking Water and Flying. :)


Sure.....I dont mind having a steak, a fine wine. Right before I jump. Who knows it could be one's last.

Not to mention.....Call domino's Pizza they will get there before the Cops. At least ya can have a Witness.

Thing is Cigar. Republicans want the least amount of government to be involved and making decisions for everyones lives. We don't want government. Federal or even local interfering with your life in any other fashion other than what is absolutely necessary.

Tell me you want the local cops to always stop your azz for speeding. Shaking your car down. Taking up your time for no reason whatsoever. Want them intruding into your privacy? Keep believing in that Liberal Socialistic Philosophy and soon, most of you libes will give up every right one can possibly have. Then be standing around wondering what fukking happened. Good thing there Real Republicans still round to make sure you libs don't go off the deep end. :wink:

Cigar
07-20-2012, 09:57 AM
Sure.....I dont mind having a steak, a fine wine. Right before I jump. Who knows it could be one's last.

Not to mention.....Call domino's Pizza they will get there before the Cops. At least ya can have a Witness.

Thing is Cigar. Republicans want the least amount of government to be involved and making decisions for everyones lives. We don't want government. Federal or even local interfering with your life in any other fashion other than what is absolutely necessary.

Tell me you want the local cops to always stop your azz for speeding. Shaking your car down. Taking up your time for no reason whatsoever. Want them intruding into your privacy? Keep believing in that Liberal Socialistic Philosophy and soon, most of you libes will give up every right one can possibly have. Then be standing around wondering what fukking happened. Good thing there Real Republicans still round to make sure you libs don't go off the deep end. :wink:

Hay ... they always pull a brother over who's driving a Corvette with no front License Plate ... they ask ... why don't you have a Front License Plate ... and I say ... where the hell do you want it in front ... the window? :)

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/chasc5/IMG_0259.jpg

Mainecoons
07-20-2012, 10:21 AM
You have one of those? Damn, they are fun to drive. On dry pavement anyway.

Chris
07-20-2012, 10:25 AM
Hay ... if you want Pizza to come when you dial 911 ... then it's OK with me.

I personally believe every Conservative should get Exactly the amount of Government they want ... especially when eating Meat, Drinking Water and Flying. :)

Police, fire, ambulance etc are all local, not federal.

There is no good reason why these public services could not be private.

Besides, none of these services create businesses that create jobs and wealth as you, Obama, and other socialists want people to believe.

Cigar
07-20-2012, 10:26 AM
You have one of those? Damn, they are fun to drive. On dry pavement anyway.

Yea … I’m a typical Liberal when it comes to Horsepower … there can never be enough.

I also have 1970 Buick Grand Sport … need to get some pictures once I get it back from the Paint Shop

Cigar
07-20-2012, 10:27 AM
Police, fire, ambulance etc are all local, not federal.

There is no good reason why these public services could not be private.

Besides, none of these services create businesses that create jobs and wealth as you, Obama, and other socialists want people to believe.

Dude ... please ... they are also dependent on Government Grants and State funding.

Chris
07-20-2012, 10:29 AM
Dude ... please ... they are also dependent on Government Grants and State funding.

Dude, they do not build businesses as you and fellow travelers want people to believe.

Mainecoons
07-20-2012, 10:32 AM
"Dude" develop a little diligence and go look at just how much of the Federal budget these activities involve. I posted a link for you that spells that out in great detail. If it is over your head, have one of your co-workers help explain it to you.

:grin:

Cigar
07-20-2012, 10:37 AM
Dude, they do not build businesses as you and fellow travelers want people to believe.

Look .. you have Rent-a-Help if you like ... I'll sty with the Professionals.

Chris
07-20-2012, 10:47 AM
Look .. you have Rent-a-Help if you like ... I'll sty with the Professionals.

Professionals can be private.

MMC
07-20-2012, 11:23 AM
Hay ... they always pull a brother over who's driving a Corvette with no front License Plate ... they ask ... why don't you have a Front License Plate ... and I say ... where the hell do you want it in front ... the window? :)

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/chasc5/IMG_0259.jpg

Well over the Border no one drives with a front plate. Not in Indiana. Thats a trick by Democrats just to make you pay for a second plate. Over the Border only ones with a front plate is someone with a Vanity Plate or its a Fed.

Cigar
07-20-2012, 11:37 AM
Professionals can be private.

Then hire them for your own protection.

Cigar
07-20-2012, 11:38 AM
Well over the Border no one drives with a front plate. Not in Indiana. Thats a trick by Democrats just to make you pay for a second plate. Over the Border only ones with a front plate is someone with a Vanity Plate or its a Fed.

They also said I can't tent the windows or the back plate ... how stupid is that?

Chris
07-20-2012, 11:39 AM
Then hire them for your own protection.

Point being, we don't need to depend on government as you mistakenly believe.

MMC
07-20-2012, 11:42 AM
Look .. you have Rent-a-Help if you like ... I'll sty with the Professionals.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c&feature=related

:laughing4:.....:grin20:

Cigar
07-20-2012, 01:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74BzSTQCl_c&feature=related

:laughing4:.....:grin20:

Love the Movie

MMC
07-20-2012, 02:36 PM
Love the Movie

Well shitfire brutha.....wheres my thanks! Ya greedy Bastard. :laugh: :wink: