Defeating Incumbent Presidents

[coolwalker]

How tough is it to defeat an incumbant?

Let usonsider the history of presidential elections. Since the end of World War II three incumbent presidents were turned out of office–Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H.W. Bush. Of the three defeated, Gerald Ford was unique in that he had never been elected in the first place. Jimmy Carter’s defeat was more “traditional” as he soon began to be perceived as being in over his head. George H.W. Bush was a bit unique as he did not have a good grasp of the changes underway in the country and the economy or their implications even after serving under reagan for two terms as VP.

Now we have Obama...he has the knack for appearing to be more competent than he actually is. How Obama deals with the unexpected and the general feeling about the economy by most will and is setting the stage. It will come down to those who supported him previously sticking with him, or abandoning him for Romney. It is clse at this time and tipping in favor of Romney.

[Cigar]

Wow ... its a difficult decision for Conservatives ...

The Enemy you know verse the Enemy you'll never know. :)

[coolwalker]

Wow ... its a difficult decision for Conservatives ...

The Enemy you know verse the Enemy you'll never know. :)
What time of the day do you start drinking?

[Cigar]

What time of the day do you start drinking?

Usually after 6:00 PM ... sharp! :)

[coolwalker]

Usually after 6:00 PM ... sharp! :)

Today you must have started a bit earlier it seems.

[Shamalamadingdong]

How tough is it to defeat an incumbant?

Let usonsider the history of presidential elections. Since the end of World War II three incumbent presidents were turned out of office–Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H.W. Bush. Of the three defeated, Gerald Ford was unique in that he had never been elected in the first place. Jimmy Carter’s defeat was more “traditional” as he soon began to be perceived as being in over his head. George H.W. Bush was a bit unique as he did not have a good grasp of the changes underway in the country and the economy or their implications even after serving under reagan for two terms as VP.

Now we have Obama...he has the knack for appearing to be more competent than he actually is. How Obama deals with the unexpected and the general feeling about the economy by most will and is setting the stage. It will come down to those who supported him previously sticking with him, or abandoning him for Romney. It is clse at this time and tipping in favor of Romney.obama is just like carter

he has these flaky ideas to change America, and we have a real leader waiting in the wings to take over and take our country back

obama will lose for sure

[coolwalker]

obama is just like carter

he has these flaky ideas to change America, and we have a real leader waiting in the wings to take over and take our country back

obama will lose for sureI pray everyday that pople like you are right because we simply can't afford four more years of tomfoolery in The White House.

[Mainecoons]

we have a real leader waiting in the wings to take over and take our country back

Are you posting from an alternative universe somewhere? Do you really think this election is going to make a difference? Do you really thing the Republicrats are that much different than the Demicans? Didn't you learn anything from watching the Bush years? What happened when the Republicans had complete control? Homeland Security, the TSA, "no child", prescription drug??

I detest Obama but I have no illusion this election is going to stop the decline and fall of the U.S.

[birddog]

I pray everyday that pople like you are right because we simply can't afford four more years of tomfoolery in The White House.


I also think we should all pray that on election day the worst storm to ever hit Chicago hit that day all day long. Most of the counties in Illinois are R, but about 4 counties sway the elections to the Ds, and Chicago is in Cook that has the most effect.

[coolwalker]

I also think we should all pray that on election day the worst storm to ever hit Chicago hit that day all day long. Most of the counties in Illinois are R, but about 4 counties sway the elections to the Ds, and Chicago is in Cook that has the most effect.

If it just storms a little it will work because historically democrats don't venture out to vote in rain whereas republicans do.

[Goldie Locks]

Unfortunately, we're doomed.

[coolwalker]

Unfortunately, we're doomed.

Goldie...why do you say we're doomed?

[Peter1469]

Goldie...why do you say we're doomed?

Because both parties are corrupt and spend way too much money.

[Goldie Locks]

It's been going on for a long time now. Nothing will dramatically change. We will continue to lose our freedom and liberty until most wake up some day and wonder what the hell happened and it will be too late....the republic will be over.

[Goldie Locks]

Because both parties are corrupt and spend way too much money.


It's not just the money, it's the regulations, rules, laws, etc. We are losing more freedom and liberty everyday.

[Trinnity]

It's not just the money, it's the regulations, rules, laws, etc. We are losing more freedom and liberty everyday.So true, it's signature worthy.

[wingrider]

It's been going on for a long time now. Nothing will dramatically change. We will continue to lose our freedom and liberty until most wake up some day and wonder what the hell happened and it will be too late....the republic will be over.
son't look now Goldie ,, but I think we are already there.. but most don't see it

[JohnAdams]

How tough is it to defeat an incumbant?

Let usonsider the history of presidential elections. Since the end of World War II three incumbent presidents were turned out of office–Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H.W. Bush. Of the three defeated, Gerald Ford was unique in that he had never been elected in the first place. Jimmy Carter’s defeat was more “traditional” as he soon began to be perceived as being in over his head. George H.W. Bush was a bit unique as he did not have a good grasp of the changes underway in the country and the economy or their implications even after serving under reagan for two terms as VP.

Now we have Obama...he has the knack for appearing to be more competent than he actually is. How Obama deals with the unexpected and the general feeling about the economy by most will and is setting the stage. It will come down to those who supported him previously sticking with him, or abandoning him for Romney. It is clse at this time and tipping in favor of Romney.

The only people The Obama appears competent too, are those who are A: political cronies who support anything any leftist says and does.

Or B: intellectually dysfunctional and dishonest individuals who worship at the altar of The Obama anyways.

To everyone else, The Obama is, and always has, appeared to be the inept, incompetent, criminal, racist hack The Obama truly is.

[JohnAdams]

Because both parties are corrupt and spend way too much money.

And all with the full blessing of many, many, many of the very same individuals who are now so fast to point the finger complain, bitch and moan, boohoo and cry about "all the spending".

And all the "corruption" among politicians in Washington.

The fact we have seen liberal leftist, national socialist, liberals not only rise to political prominence and power in this nation.

In and of itself speaks volumes and says quite rather a lot about the fact that many of those who we now see today so worried about spending.

That many of those who we now see so concerend about "corrupt political party's."

Are by every definition of the word traitor, traitors to this nation, it's ideals, it's constitution and it's people.

For the past thirty to forty years now, these very same individuals who now suddenly are so concerned, have made a conscious choice to remain politically ignorant, refusing to believe anything disparaging about those they idolize, even when the facts proving their idols to be the corrupt, false idols they really are, smacks them in the face.

As we all see, day after day, time after time, in the here and now today, among those who still, continue to politically support, and attempt to justify The Obama and his criminally negligent, felonious, anti-America, anti-Constitutional administration.

That fact alone, speaks volumes about these individuals who knowing full well what the outcomes and consequences would be to our national integrity, liberty, freedom and overall national wealth, have time and time again chosen to shirk their civic duty, because they couldn't be bothered to actually go cast a vote to prevent these criminal politicians from even entering office in the first place.

For fear a five to ten minute wait at the polls, might cause them to miss some all important ball game, or sitcom on the television.

If even half of those who now claim to be so concerend about what is going on in our nation, would vote, if even half of them actually put their vote and their money where their mouths today are.

We'd never have seen the rise of leftist statist socialists to political power in this nation to start with.

Let alone see them remain in office year after year, decade after decade, steadily robbing tax monies from the coffers of this nations treasury, steadfastly and methodically, squandering the wealth, natural resources, and talent of the hard working American people.

Of course this is something those of us not afflicted with the mental disorder called liberalism, have known for years now as well.

And something which is, yet again I remind everyone, born out by the governments own voter statistics.

[patrickt]

Today you must have started a bit earlier it seems.No, he has 24 clocks on his computer and it's always after 6 p.m. somewhere.I worked with a guy who blamed everything on his drinking. In truth, he was an idiot drunk or sober.

[Deadwood]

How tough is it to defeat an incumbant?

Let usonsider the history of presidential elections. Since the end of World War II three incumbent presidents were turned out of office–Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and George H.W. Bush. Of the three defeated, Gerald Ford was unique in that he had never been elected in the first place. Jimmy Carter’s defeat was more “traditional” as he soon began to be perceived as being in over his head.

Well, you left out Johnson who, I agree, was not "defeated"; but rather driven out of office. And Ford who was never elected in the first place.

And the record can be viewed another way. Since 1950 only one Democrat in seven so far have had a "traditional" second term, whereas four out of five Republican presidents have been re-elected, three times in something of a cake walk.

I agree though, and have always said that Carter and Obama are the most apt comparisons. Carter was elected on a perceived sea tide of change that was nothing more than walking to the white house after the inauguration and turning down the thermostat. Obama's victory was built on just as vague a foundation and now, like Carter, he stumbles from crisis to crisis so far successfully passing the blame.

What else is the same is that in both Obama and Carter, the margin of victory was not that different than the estimated "non-traditional" voters. Obama got a lift from millions who bought into the "Hope and Change" bullshit."

They will not be there this time. And that is why Obama is waging a more traditional campaign, wooing the big $, because they know that bloc of independents is gone. Their only hope is that those "non traditional" voters simply stay home, because if they are mad and feel ripped off enough.....look for a Tiger/Obama pairing on the next pro am tour.