Bernie Sanders event in Portland

[Cigar]

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FULL HOUSE Baby :laugh:

[zelmo1234]

I am guessing that Hillary is crapping her pant suit.

[Cigar]

I am guessing that Hillary is crapping her pant suit.

She should ... :laugh:

Nothing the Cons throw are her will be more than Bernie

[zelmo1234]

you know he is consistent, he is real.. I don't agree with him but I can respect him!

[nic34]

you know he is consistent, he is real.. I don't agree with him but I can respect him!

Come on zel, we know you feel the BERN!

[nic34]

Sen. Bernie Sanders says a challenge to corporate 'oligarchy' is a not only a 'damn good platform' for a presidential candidate, it is exactly what a majority of the American people want to hear.

Liberal advocates say there are many questions about Clinton’s policy stances. She has stayed relatively quiet about domestic issues since retiring from the Senate in 2008.

“I would like to know more about where she stands. The world has changed a lot since her husband was president, and she hasn’t had to deal with domestic issues since she was in the U.S. Senate,” said Roger Hickey, co-director of Campaign for America’s Future. “The questions I would like her to debate and discuss is what do we do with this banking system that is a problem for the real economy.

“Do we continue to deregulate the way her husband did or do we break up the banks and make them less powerful?” he said.

Democratic activists acknowledge that Sanders is unlikely to present a serious threat to Clinton, but they are happy to see him jump in the race because they want a vigorous debate over Wall Street.




http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/08/28/bernie-sanders-i-want-know-if-ordinary-people-are-ready-stand-and-fight

[PolWatch]

No one thought that Obama was a serious threat to Hillary either. I'm glad to see someone willing to challenge her. I still believe that 2016 should be the year of the GOP but they seem to be having problems. They can still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Tahuyaman]

No one thought that Obama was a serious threat to Hillary either. I'm glad to see someone willing to challenge her. I still believe that 2016 should be the year of the GOP but they seem to be having problems. They can still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


The election is a long way off. Things will change when each party has selected a candidate.

In the beginning, I simply dismissed Sanders. I still think he has no shot at winning a general election, but it looks like he may very well split the Democrat's base and cause serious harm to Hillary Clinton's campaign. He may make it impossible for her to gain the support of the whacked out far left that is slowly taking control of the Democrat party. She is going to win the nomination though.

She's going to be forced to move to the far left and that is going to be a problem for her in the general election. The more centrist faction of the party and the so called independents aren't going to accept her swing back to the center, or center right after Sanders is out of the picture.

Personally, I don't believe Sanders wants to be POTUS. He just doesn't want Hillary to be POTUS.

[nic34]

No one thought that Obama was a serious threat to Hillary either. I'm glad to see someone willing to challenge her. I still believe that 2016 should be the year of the GOP but they seem to be having problems. They can still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

GOP is wrong on the important issues..... and try to use wedge issues people are sick of hearing about.

Just listen to those that go to Sanders rallies:


Many in Monday’s crowd were younger, such as a recent high school graduate from the Boston area who drove to Maine with a parent to hear Sanders.

“He really does say what he believes, and just seeing how people respond to that, I wanted to be part of it,” said Benjamin Powell, an 18-year-old from Dedham, Massachusetts.

Yarmouth residents Jonas Allen and Beth Brewer came with their two young boys, 6-year-old Ellis and 10-year-old Levi, to hear a candidate that Allen said is putting the middle class ahead of corporate or financial interests.

“I think that’s why he is taking off because he is the only candidate on the Republican or the Democratic side who is really taking a stand on the issue,” Allen said. “When you have the political machine behind you like the Clintons do, it is going to be a challenge. But I think his populist message is getting out there whether he gets the nomination or not.”

There were plenty of older supporters in the crowd, as well.

Among those who had arrived early enough to get front-row seats in the arena were Dale and Robyn Moreau and Rose and Jack Kennealy, all of Cape Elizabeth.

“This is the first candidate to be excited about since Eugene McCarthy,” said Dale Moreau, referring to the 1968 presidential hopeful.

“He is genuine,” said Robyn Moreau.

“And he is not naive about working in Washington,” added Rose Kennealy.

Walking away from the arena afterward, Falmouth resident Jackie Curley said every single issue that Sanders highlighted on Monday is important to her.

“For the last 20 years, we have needed somebody like him,” Curley said. “We have had many good people, but nobody like this guy.”




http://www.pressherald.com/2015/07/06/presidential-hopeful-bernie-sanders-rallies-supporters-in-portland/

[Tahuyaman]

Please Democrats. Nominate Bernie Sanders. Please.

[PolWatch]

Please Democrats. Nominate Bernie Sanders. Please.

He has an uphill battle....but he does seem to be attracting some who are not sold on Hillary. He might succeed in getting more attention than I was expecting him to.

[Green Arrow]

Again...if the Democrats nominate Sanders in 2016, they'll have my vote.

[maineman]

my daughter was at that rally.

[Tahuyaman]

He has an uphill battle....but he does seem to be attracting some who are not sold on Hillary. He might succeed in getting more attention than I was expecting him to.

Attracting a large crowd is not a difficult thing to accomplish. All one needs to do is put on a rally in an area known to be friendly to your point of view.

If a vegan, gay, communist was running for president and conducted a rally in Seattle, it would need to conducted in Husky stadium and simulcast to Century Link field to standing room only crowds.

[decedent]

Does that commie carry a hammer and sickel?

Has anyone ever been to Norway or Sweden? Commie countries have an awful standard of living. Just ask the average Canadian how much they hate their healthcare.

[PolWatch]

Attracting a large crowd is not a difficult thing to accomplish. All one needs to do is put on a rally in an area known to be friendly to your point of view.

guess Iowa doesn't love Santorum this year.

HAMLIN, Ia. – When just one Iowan showed up to Rick Santorum's 2 p.m. campaign stop at a restaurant here Monday, the winner of the 2012 Iowa caucuses made a quick decision: Might as well order lunch
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/06/09/santorum-panora-hamlin-visit/28724779/

[Common Sense]

Please Democrats. Nominate Bernie Sanders. Please.

Only if the Reps nominate Trump. ;)

[maineman]

Does that commie carry a hammer and sickel?

Has anyone ever been to Norway or Sweden? Commie countries have an awful standard of living. Just ask the average Canadian how much they hate their healthcare.

none of those are "commie countries", by the way.

[gamewell45]

Does that commie carry a hammer and sickel?

Has anyone ever been to Norway or Sweden? Commie countries have an awful standard of living. Just ask the average Canadian how much they hate their healthcare.

My friends wife (who is canadian) thinks it's superior to the American health system; in fact they laugh at our health system. She's never had any issues with the type of coverage or quality of doctors contrary to what some in here opine.

[decedent]

none of those are "commie countries", by the way.

Well, they aren't American so how free can they be? We saved their asses in the war and we continue to keep them safe from Russia. You're welcome, Norway.


My friends wife (who is canadian) thinks it's superior to the American health system; in fact they laugh at our health system.

I laugh at Obamacare too. Our healthcare was flawless before Obama unconstitutionally forced a bill through Congress.

[PolWatch]

My friends wife (who is canadian) thinks it's superior to the American health system; in fact they laugh at our health system. She's never had any issues with the type of coverage or quality of doctors contrary to what some in here opine.

The only ones I have heard talking about how bad the insurance is are not Canadian....go figure

[hanger4]

Good for Bernie, at lest he's not a slez like da Hill. Course I said the same about Obama in 08. Boy was I wrong. :(

[Tahuyaman]

guess Iowa doesn't love Santorum this year.

HAMLIN, Ia. – When just one Iowan showed up to Rick Santorum's 2 p.m. campaign stop at a restaurant here Monday, the winner of the 2012 Iowa caucuses made a quick decision: Might as well order lunch
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/06/09/santorum-panora-hamlin-visit/28724779/

You are trying to prove my point, huh?

[Tahuyaman]

Only if the Reps nominate Trump. ;)



Canadians have no input on this one.

[Tahuyaman]

The only ones I have heard talking about how bad the insurance is are not Canadian....go figure

Then come to a major American hospital close to the Canadian border. You'll find a lot of people unhappy with the Canadian health care system.

[PolWatch]

You are trying torove my point?

just pointing out that those who agreed at one time, may not agree the next time around. No guarantees of how many will appear based on the past records.

I couldn't find the article, but Hillary met with the same lack of interest at an event in Iowa. The corn must be particularly interesting this year.

[Tahuyaman]

just pointing out that those who agreed at one time, may not agree the next time around. No guarantees of how many will appear based on the past records.

I couldn't find the article, but Hillary met with the same lack of interest at an event in Iowa. The corn must be particularly interesting this year.


Maybe they have better things to do a year and a half prior to the election?

[PolWatch]

Maybe they have better things to do a year and a half prior to the election?

Obviously it was better than to turn out to listen to their last-year's favorite candidate. Fickle

[Ransom]

No one thought that Obama was a serious threat to Hillary either. I'm glad to see someone willing to challenge her. I still believe that 2016 should be the year of the GOP but they seem to be having problems. They can still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

You, as usual, show your hand too early. Every poll out there shows Hillary with a sizable lead over any projected GOP primary winner. It's more likely the GOP rather than snatch defeat from victory will once again be simply and by a sizable margin, outspent. Could be the candidate with the most money will win and that will be somehow interpreted as an upset by the far Left?

Amusing, I gotta admit.

[Ransom]

Good for Bernie, at lest he's not a slez like da Hill. Course I said the same about Obama in 08. Boy was I wrong. :(

You were way wrong.

[Mac-7]

With the high percentage of immigrants from undemocratic countries and the rotten Obama economy creating millions of new low income voters, and 20 something's who have been educated to expect handouts the country may be closer than we think to going socialist.

[PolWatch]

You, as usual, show your hand too early. Every poll out there shows Hillary with a sizable lead over any projected GOP primary winner. It's more likely the GOP rather than snatch defeat from victory will once again be simply and by a sizable margin, outspent. Could be the candidate with the most money will win and that will be somehow interpreted as an upset by the far Left?

Amusing, I gotta admit.

Then the Koch Brothers need to cough up more than their promised 900 million to elect a repub. btw: that is for their personal political organization. The RNC funds are not included in that figure. Looks like the repubs have the $$$ to buy the White House. The best government money can buy!

[Bob]

Then the Koch Brothers need to cough up more than their promised 900 million to elect a repub. btw: that is for their personal political organization. The RNC funds are not included in that figure. Looks like the repubs have the $$$ to buy the White House. The best government money can buy!

Thank you thank you thank you

I sure hope you got this one right.

[gamewell45]

Well, they aren't American so how free can they be? We saved their asses in the war and we continue to keep them safe from Russia. You're welcome, Norway.



I laugh at Obamacare too. Our healthcare was flawless before Obama unconstitutionally forced a bill through Congress.

Yes, for those who could get insurance; those who had pre-existing conditions or could not afford insurance were thrown under the bus. It was the American way.

[decedent]

Yes, for those who could get insurance; those who had pre-existing conditions or could not afford insurance were thrown under the bus. It was the American way.

No, emergency room visits were free. That's free healthcare than anyone could get.

[gamewell45]

No, emergency room visits were free. That's free healthcare than anyone could get.

Wrong again. If they had medical care on a regular basis, many issues that would cause them to go to the emergency room in the first place could be avoided. Instead they have to wait until they are literally dying until they could get treatment. And then its only to stabilize them; then the problems come back because they cannot afford to see a doctor. It overloads the entire healthcare system. With the ACA everyone can get medical insurance, even if they have a pre-existing condition. You know how many lives that has saved?

[Mac-7]

Yes, for those who could get insurance; those who had pre-existing conditions or could not afford insurance were thrown under the bus. It was the American way.

Yes, 280 million Americans now pay more for less return so that a few million people can get health insurance they did not earn and don't pay for.

Thats how liberals think.

Take from some and give it to others.

[Peter1469]

Access issues and pre-existing conditions could have been addressed without upturning the entire insurance system.

[Ransom]

Then the Koch Brothers need to cough up more than their promised 900 million to elect a repub. btw: that is for their personal political organization. The RNC funds are not included in that figure. Looks like the repubs have the $$$ to buy the White House. The best government money can buy!

Note you only know the "Koch" name as it's what is said on Oprah. The RNC will be outspent. The Dem billionaires will give more than the Kochs.....Oprah will say Koch and her sheep will graze on it like you're bred to do. The best government money can buy indeed.

BTW, we have that now....Obama's campaign in 2008 3/4 of a bil, his 2012 reaching the 1 billion mark......look to the meadow to see who is baaaaaaing........silence.

You show your hand too early all the time, PW, bet you're not a good car player are you. Must be genuine to attempt disingenuous.

[nic34]

Yes, for those who could get insurance; those who had pre-existing conditions or could not afford insurance were thrown under the bus. It was the American way.

Well buster, if you don't like it, you can just move to Norway, Denmark or Cuba where they don't throw anyone under the bus.

[nic34]

The Dem billionaires will give more than the Kochs.

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[nic34]

Yes, 280 million Americans now pay more for less return so that a few million people can get health insurance they did not earn and don't pay for.

Thats how liberals think.

Take from some and give it to others.

The way cons think, some people are expendable collateral damage.

or else just lucky they inherited fortunes that makes it possible to never have to work....

[PolWatch]

The way cons think, some people are expendable collateral damage.

or else just lucky they inherited fortunes that makes it possible to never have to work....

What puzzles me the most is those complaining about anyone needing help are usually the ones who talk about their Christian beliefs. I don't remember any verse that says 'I've got mine....tuff luck loser'.

[nic34]

Access issues and pre-existing conditions could have been addressed without upturning the entire insurance system.

Tell it to the GOPers that won't support H.R.676.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Health_Care_Act

Vote anyone?

[Tahuyaman]

The way cons think, some people are expendable collateral damage.

or else just lucky they inherited fortunes that makes it possible to never have to work....

Idiot liberals believe all wealth today is inherited. I don't know why they are so fixated on inherited wealth. I guess they would prefer to see people achieve wealth through insider trading schemes, bogus land deals, phony book deals and siphoning money from charitable foundations.

Personally, I don't care if it is or isn't. But then I'm not jealous or envious of those who are better off than me.

[Tahuyaman]

Tell it to the GOPers that won't support H.R.676.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Health_Care_Act

Vote anyone?

Where would liberals be without Wikipedia and politiifact?

[PolWatch]

Where would liberals be without Wikipedia and politiifact?

They would be forced to make up stuff like conservatives?

[Tahuyaman]

They would be forced to make up stuff like conservatives?

of course you can't show any examples of making stuff up, but you'll still make the claim. Either that or you'll claim a fact is actually something made up.

[PolWatch]

of course you can't show any examples of making stuff up, but you'll still make the claim. Either that or you'll claim a fact is actually something made up.

voter fraud sound familiar?

[Green Arrow]

Where would liberals be without Wikipedia and politiifact?

There are links in that Wiki article that will take you to the official U.S. Congressional legislation websites.

[Tahuyaman]

voter fraud sound familiar?

Actually, when it came to that issue once again I provided verifiable facts which you claimed were untrue. You claimed it to be untrue even when documentation was provided. Facts don't go away becasue you which them away.

I can understand someone trivializing or just disregarding facts. That can lead to a valid disunion. Claiming they are made up is a simple case of denial and irrational.

[Private Pickle]

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FULL HOUSE Baby :laugh:

Too bad he is white eh?

[Tahuyaman]

There are links in that Wiki article that will take you to the official U.S. Congressional legislation websites.

Which were not used to support the comment.

[Tahuyaman]

Too bad he is white eh?

Are you saying something about how white that crowd seemed to be? It is Portland Maine after all, not Portland Oregon.

[Private Pickle]

Are you saying something about how white that crowd seemed to be? It is Portland Maine after all, not Portland Oregon.

No

[PolWatch]

Actually, when it came to that issue once again I provided verifiable facts which you claimed were untrue. You claimed it to be untrue even when documentation was provided. Facts don't go away becasue you which them away.

I can understand someone trivializing or just disregarding facts. That can lead to a valid disunion. Claiming they are made up is a simple case of denial and irrational.

in 2008 122,394,724 citizens voted. You found 113 cases of voter registration fraud. Let the hysteria continue.

[Green Arrow]

Which were not used to support the comment.

Actually, they were. They were part of the article quoted.

[Tahuyaman]

in 2008 122,394,724 citizens voted. You found 113 cases of voter registration fraud. Let the hysteria continue.

Again with the misstatements. I showed you 113 convictions for vote fraud in one election in one particular state.

Why can't you just stick with facts? Do you have a fact allergy or something?

[Mac-7]

Again with the misstatements. I showed you 113 convictions for vote fraud in one election in one particular state.

Why can't you just stick with facts? Do you have a fact allergy or something?

The official democrat party line is that there is no voter fraud in America.

dont expect to get a different answer no matter how many times you ask them.

[Tahuyaman]

Actually, they were. They were part of the article quoted.

What do you think he was arguing anyway? You've kind of lost me on this one. I have no idea where this one spun off course or what the subject is any longer.

Plus I've got another fact denier wanting to revive his belief that vote fraud is something which needs to be encouraged..... I guess.

[Tahuyaman]

The official democrat party line is that there is no voter fraud in America.

dont expect to get a different answer no matter how many times you ask them.

I don't know what they are saying. When they say one thing and get called out, they just swerve around hoping the subject changes.

You show them verifiable facts from multiple credible sources and they still claim that you just made something up out of thin air. Then to top it off, they use those same facts later to try to support their view. So the facts are made up when you use them as a means to inform them, but those same facts are valid when they want. It's mind boggling

[Peter1469]

Here is a web site (http://blackboxvoting.org/) that tracks voting issues to include fraud.

[texan]

When Biden enters she is screwed in her strategy......He will run on Obama and she will have to attack it.......Can't wait.

[PolWatch]

Here is a web site (http://blackboxvoting.org/) that tracks voting issues to include fraud.

looks like we could take lessons from Pakistan....

[PolWatch]

I don't know what they are saying. When they say one thing and get called out, they just swerve around hoping the subject changes.

You show them verifiable facts from multiple credible sources and they still claim that you just made something up out of thin air. Then to top it off, they use those same facts later to try to support their view. So the facts are made up when you use them as a means to inform them, but those same facts are valid when they want. It's mind boggling

113 voter fraud in MN....multiple credible sources? I accepted your source on the Franken election and acknowledged it. Now, you exaggerate and bemoan something that didn't happen? You & mac can continue this discussion without anyone else....echo chambers are always fun for some....

[texan]

What puzzles me the most is those complaining about anyone needing help are usually the ones who talk about their Christian beliefs. I don't remember any verse that says 'I've got mine....tuff luck loser'.


What puzzles me is when you libs try and use this horse crap line. I don't think ANYONE is complaining about people needing help....................But you go ahead and distort to make your point, don;t let any fact stop you............I do think the bible preaches responsibility.

[maineman]

What puzzles me is when you libs try and use this horse crap line. I don't think ANYONE is complaining about people needing help....................But you go ahead and distort to make your point, don;t let any fact stop you............I do think the bible preaches responsibility.

one of the biggest responsibilities preached in the Bible is to take care of those less fortunate.

"When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?" "Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my lambs.
Again Jesus said, "Simon son of John, do you love me?" He answered, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Take care of my sheep.
The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?" Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my sheep."

[PolWatch]

one of the biggest responsibilities preached in the Bible is to take care of those less fortunate.

"When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?" "Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my lambs.
Again Jesus said, "Simon son of John, do you love me?" He answered, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Take care of my sheep.
The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?" Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my sheep."



that is one the optional suggestions....:rollseyes:

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What puzzles me the most is those complaining about anyone needing help are usually the ones who talk about their Christian beliefs. I don't remember any verse that says 'I've got mine....tuff luck loser'.

Poverty is a choice. Any poor American just needs a nickel and some gumption to become a billionaire. Even a retard or a paraplegic can put in a hard day's work.

[PolWatch]

Poverty is a choice. Any poor American just needs a nickel and some gumption to become a billionaire. Even a retard or a paraplegic can put in a hard day's work.

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[decedent]

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Take away their Obamaphones and put them in work camps. Make them earn their way out. It worked for Rome. I wish Joe Arpaio was running for President.

[PolWatch]

Take away their Obamaphones and put them in work camps. Make them earn their way out. It worked for Rome. I wish Joe Arpaio was running for President.

Don't worry...his spiritual son, Donald, is doing that for him. Be sure to vote for him!

[Tahuyaman]

113 voter fraud in MN....multiple credible sources? I accepted your source on the Franken election and acknowledged it. Now, you exaggerate and bemoan something that didn't happen? You & mac can continue this discussion without anyone else....echo chambers are always fun for some....


Yes, two different credible sources tell you that there were more than 100 vote fraud convictions stemming from one election in one state.

What did I exaggerate? You first asked for proof of any vote fraud concpvictions in the US. I showed you, then you denied it for quite some time.

You lost all the credibility you had with me anyway.

[texan]

Trump vs. Bernie please pretty please....

[Green Arrow]

Trump vs. Bernie please pretty please....

I didn't know you were a fan of Sanders.

[Private Pickle]

Take away their Obamaphones and put them in work camps. Make them earn their way out. It worked for Rome. I wish Joe Arpaio was running for President.

I bet your mom told you that you were taking the little bus to school cause it got there faster.