Anyone know anything about the "dictator clause?"

[donttread]

Executive Order 13603 . Defense Preparedness . It was quietly signed on 3-16-2012 and based upon relatively subjective criteria the president can seize power ( quite literally as in all utilities) declare martial law and become king.
Peter? Anybody else . Say it isn't so

[Ravens Fan]

From Wiki:


the national defense resources preparedness executive order (executive order 13603 (https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/executive_order_13603)) is an order of the united states' president signed by president barack obama (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/barack_obama) on march 16, 2012.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/executive_order_13603#cite_note-nara-1) the purpose of this executive order (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/executive_order) is to delegate authority and address national defense resource policies and programs under the defense production act of 1950 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/defense_production_act_of_1950).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/executive_order_13603#cite_note-press-release-2) executive order 13603 (https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/executive_order_13603) provides the framework and authority for the allocation or appropriation of resources, materials and services to promote national defense.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/executive_order_13603#cite_note-3)
contrary to a few initial claims otherwise, the order appears to update long-existing directives that have been issued as far back as the truman administration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/truman_administration) and makes no claim to allowing the federal government to confiscate private property or declare martial law.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/executive_order_13603#cite_note-hotair-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/executive_order_13603#cite_note-snopes-5) in particular, this executive order removes the name of the federal emergency management agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/federal_emergency_management_agency) from the previous orders, and replaces it with references to branches of the department of homeland security (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/department_of_homeland_security), to bring the previous orders up to date with recent changes in the structure of the federal government.[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/executive_order_13603#cite_note-snopes-5)

[Peter1469]

It is an executive order that updated previous orders dating back to the Truman Administration.

The conspiracy theorists think it allows for martial law. It is like the Tucker Act- which says certain things must happen before FEMA can do anything (although the press blamed FEMA and Bush for Katrina).

[Common Sense]

Just throw it on the pile with the other ridiculous conspiracy theories.

[Peter1469]

Not all of them are crazy.

[PolWatch]

It is an executive order that updated previous orders dating back to the Truman Administration.

The conspiracy theorists think it allows for martial law. It is like the Tucker Act- which says certain things must happen before FEMA can do anything (although the press blamed FEMA and Bush for Katrina).

you forgot those who blamed the gays for Katrina....gotta get all the fingers pointing in the same direction!

[Common Sense]

Not all of them are crazy.

Not all...but most.

[The Xl]

Not all...but most.
Some of the quote unquote craziest ones are declassified.

[Mac-7]

Obama has enough authority to declare himself Dear Leader for life.

Whether he chooses to use that power remains to be seen.

[Safety]

Peter1469

I have the aluminum foil for the hats, you have the duct tape?

[PolWatch]

Obama has enough authority to declare himself Dear Leader for life.

Whether he chooses to use that power remains to be seen.

The issue has been explained by more than one poster....with factual proof cited. Shove the tin foil hat higher, you seem to be having problems reading.

[Peter1469]

@Peter1469 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=10)

I have the aluminum foil for the hats, you have the duct tape?

I have lots of duct tape. And 100mph cord.

[Mac-7]

So far two mods and a VIP making personal attacks on another member.

[Peter1469]

So far two mods and a VIP making personal attacks on another member.

Lib, lib, lib

come to the conservative side.

[Safety]

So far two mods and a VIP making personal attacks on another member.

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[Peter1469]

And I do have a lot of duct tape and 1000' of paracord- that would be 100mph cord.

[Mac-7]

Lib, lib, lib

come to the conservative side.

I thought when you guys set up your exclusive membership shelter to protect you from characters like me you would have no need to post to me or about me.

But here the mods and VIPs are tracking me down to make snide remarks.

What is the point of having a safe room if you don't use it?

This is not the example you are expected to set.

[MisterVeritis]

Executive Order 13603 . Defense Preparedness . It was quietly signed on 3-16-2012 and based upon relatively subjective criteria the president can seize power ( quite literally as in all utilities) declare martial law and become king.
Peter? Anybody else . Say it isn't so
We are already under martial law. What the king says goes. Has anyone in the legislative branch used the legislative powers to stop him?

[Peter1469]

I thought when you guys set up your exclusive membership shelter to protect you from characters like me you would have no need to post to me or about me.

But here the mods and VIPs are tracking me down to make snide remarks.

What is the point of having a safe room if you don't use it?

This is not the example you are expected to set.

You are the one who labels everyone left of David Duke a lib, lib, lib. Go cry in the corner somewhere.

[Mac-7]

We are already under martial law. What the king says goes. Has anyone in the legislative branch used the legislative powers to stop him?

Obama has already proven that he is willing to claim power and then dare congress and the courts to stop him.

I'm not worried about the new executive order.

The threat is Obama.

[MisterVeritis]

Obama has already proven that he is willing to claim power and then dare congress and the courts to stop him.

I'm not worried about the new executive order.

The threat is Obama.
Right. We are already under martial law. What the king wants the king gets.

[Mac-7]

You are the one who labels everyone left of David Duke a lib, lib, lib. Go cry in the corner somewhere.

The only problem with your argument is that I didn't introduce the word lib to this thread.

you did.

And you are not living up to the higher standards demanded of a member that enjoys special privileges.

Changing the subject to a strawman like the term "lib" does not hide that fact.

[Mac-7]

Right. We are already under martial law. What the king wants the king gets.

Even the SC jumps when obumer snaps his finger.

[domer76]

Executive Order 13603 . Defense Preparedness . It was quietly signed on 3-16-2012 and based upon relatively subjective criteria the president can seize power ( quite literally as in all utilities) declare martial law and become king.
Peter? Anybody else . Say it isn't so

From the posts, it appears that we could call it the "delusional paranoiac" clause for many of you.

[Captain Obvious]

The little rascals were in school, the teacher was running a sort of spelling bee.

She asks Buckwheat to spell "dictate", so he spells it - D I C T A T E. Now she asks him to use the word in a sentence. So Buckwheat says:

"Darla says my dictate better than Alfalfa's".

[Cthulhu]

Some of the quote unquote craziest ones are declassified.
No kidding - MK Ultra, Stargate, Lucifer Project etc...

There is some bat shit crazy stuff that originated in government circles.

Sent from my evil, digital homunculus.

[Cthulhu]

Peter1469

I have the aluminum foil for the hats, you have the duct tape?
You would be better off with silver foil as it is a superior conductor and catches more EM emissions...but aluminum is hella cheaper.

Sent from my evil, digital homunculus.

[Redrose]

Obama has enough authority to declare himself Dear Leader for life.

Whether he chooses to use that power remains to be seen.


Maybe in his mind, but not in reality.

[donttread]

I don't really care when it was originally written and if this is an update. I get what many of you are saying but there are some quotes and clauses in there that sound pretty damn martial lawish to me. Couple it with the unpatriot Act and other executive orders and our system can be legally over ridden by the feds about any day they choose

[decedent]

you forgot those who blamed the gays for Katrina....gotta get all the fingers pointing in the same direction!

Are you saying that it was just a coincidence and God wasn't punishing New Orleans for being so gay?

[donttread]

Are you saying that it was just a coincidence and God wasn't punishing New Orleans for being so gay?


He may have been reminding us not to live in what Carlos Mencia so aptly described as "A bowl surrounded by soup"

[Peter1469]

I don't really care when it was originally written and if this is an update. I get what many of you are saying but there are some quotes and clauses in there that sound pretty damn martial lawish to me. Couple it with the unpatriot Act and other executive orders and our system can be legally over ridden by the feds about any day they choose

I agree that it can be abused.

[1751_Texan]

I don't really care when it was originally written and if this is an update. I get what many of you are saying but there are some quotes and clauses in there that sound pretty $#@! martial lawish to me. Couple it with the unpatriot Act and other executive orders and our system can be legally over ridden by the feds about any day they choose

Here is the deal. There is no EO 13603 without the agreement of Congress.

The Defense Production Act (1950),15 CFR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Federal_Regulations) §§700 to 700.93. is the accompaning law which allowes the EO to be written. [It does not give the right to write EO 13603, it is the law the EO is base from]

Congress and the people have various options to remedy this EO. Congress can change the EO outright, Congress can change or rescind the Law, or Congress or the people can challenge the EO in court.

We have in place a system of checks and balances to protect from use or abuse of power. For those that wish to utilize them.

[McCool]

you forgot those who blamed the gays for Katrina....gotta get all the fingers pointing in the same direction! Guilty!

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[Mac-7]

Maybe in his mind, but not in reality.

The legal fine print exists for obumer to declare martial law on a very flimsy pretext.

Sure voices of protest would be raised.

But the country would be under martial law and protesters could be arrested or even shot.

And that includes members of congress.

and the Supreme Court - which commands no military divisions of its own.

[magicmike]

Obama has enough authority to declare himself Dear Leader for life.

Whether he chooses to use that power remains to be seen.

I'd pee my pants in happiness just to witness your and others meltdowns if he ever did.

[Ivan88]

Under the PATRIOT ACT, they can do anything they want.
Assuming that we had "rights" before it, we have none now.
Watch this video and discover the "rights" we have now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=727&v=kPJbqyRarjA

[Ivan88]

...the country would be under martial law and protesters could be arrested or even shot.

And that includes .... the Supreme Court - which commands no military divisions of its own.

Lincoln forcibly overthrew the Supreme Court when it opposed his Communist revolution. Ever since, the Supreme Court gets permission from Congress and the President before ruling on important issues.

[Private Pickle]

I'd pee my pants in happiness just to witness your and others meltdowns if he ever did.

Your willingness to give up your liberty to enjoy the sight of someone else losing their liberty is how tyrants and despots gain power.

[Mac-7]

Your willingness to give up your liberty to enjoy the sight of someone else losing their liberty is how tyrants and despots gain power.

Obama voters don't need no stinkin' liberty.

For liberals if everyone is under the thumb of the welfare state and agrees on everything liberty is unnecessary.

[donttread]

Here is the deal. There is no EO 13603 without the agreement of Congress.

The Defense Production Act (1950),15 CFR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Federal_Regulations) §§700 to 700.93. is the accompaning law which allowes the EO to be written. [It does not give the right to write EO 13603, it is the law the EO is base from]

Congress and the people have various options to remedy this EO. Congress can change the EO outright, Congress can change or rescind the Law, or Congress or the people can challenge the EO in court.

We have in place a system of checks and balances to protect from use or abuse of power. For those that wish to utilize them.

1) How often does Congress exercise those options
2) I dont trust congress either

[Mac-7]

1) How often does Congress exercise those options
2) I dont trust congress either

Congress has no military divisions under its command.

So they are powerless to stop a president who is determined to be a dictator.

[magicmike]

Lincoln forcibly overthrew the Supreme Court when it opposed his Communist revolution. Ever since, the Supreme Court gets permission from Congress and the President before ruling on important issues.

That's the funniest Not Bob post I've ever read. Those durn history books never taught me Lincoln was a commie.