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hanger4
07-08-2015, 07:03 PM
Presidential candidate and self-identified socialist Senator Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) expressed his concern over Americans who have dropped out of the labor force, saying “real unemployment is 10.5 percent,” at a presidential campaign rally in Portland, Maine, the Daily Caller reported.

“When you talk about the economy, we also have to have an honest assessment of unemployment in America,” said the senator. “Once a month the government publishes a set of figures, and the last figures they published said that official unemployment was 5.4 percent.”

http://freebeacon.com/politics/bernie-sanders-real-unemployment-rate-is-10-5/

Ouch, that just might leave a mark. Reckon the MSM will spent much time if any reporting this slap at Obama ??

Cigar
07-08-2015, 07:10 PM
YES or NO Hanger

... are we or are we not using the exact same Math to measure, evaluate and report Unemployment as all the previous Administrations?

:grin: This should be classic

The Xl
07-08-2015, 07:11 PM
It's probably higher.

Cigar
07-08-2015, 07:14 PM
Can't answer the question :laugh:

hanger4
07-08-2015, 07:22 PM
YES or NO Hanger

... are we or are we not using the exact same Math to measure, evaluate and report Unemployment as all the previous Administrations?

:grin: This should be classic

Sure they have, and they've been wrong.

Your hero Bernie just called Obama out for bally-hooing numbers that don't tell the whole truth.
What are you to do ??
Actually I already know the answer.

Peter1469
07-08-2015, 07:24 PM
Unemployment is measured by 6 measures. U 1, U 2, U, 3, U 4, U 5, U 6.

Study (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm).


HOUSEHOLD DATA
Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization [Percent]

Measure
Not seasonally adjusted
Seasonally adjusted


June
2014
May
2015
June
2015
June
2014
Feb.
2015
Mar.
2015
Apr.
2015
May
2015
June
2015


U-1 Persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force

2.8
2.4
2.1
2.9
2.6
2.4
2.3
2.4
2.2


U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force

3.0
2.5
2.5
3.1
2.7
2.7
2.6
2.7
2.6


U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (official unemployment rate)

6.3
5.3
5.5
6.1
5.5
5.5
5.4
5.5
5.3


U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers

6.7
5.6
5.8
6.5
6.0
5.9
5.9
5.8
5.7


U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

7.5
6.4
6.6
7.3
6.8
6.7
6.7
6.6
6.4


U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

12.4
10.4
10.8
12.0
11.0
10.9
10.8
10.8
10.5


NOTE: Persons marginally attached to the labor force are those who currently are neither working nor looking for work but indicate that they want and are available for a job and have looked for work sometime in the past 12 months. Discouraged workers, a subset of the marginally attached, have given a job-market related reason for not currently looking for work. Persons employed part time for economic reasons are those who want and are available for full-time work but have had to settle for a part-time schedule. Updated population controls are introduced annually with the release of January data.

Ravens Fan
07-08-2015, 07:27 PM
Presidential candidate and self-identified socialist Senator Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) expressed his concern over Americans who have dropped out of the labor force, saying “real unemployment is 10.5 percent,” at a presidential campaign rally in Portland, Maine, the Daily Caller reported.

“When you talk about the economy, we also have to have an honest assessment of unemployment in America,” said the senator. “Once a month the government publishes a set of figures, and the last figures they published said that official unemployment was 5.4 percent.”

http://freebeacon.com/politics/bernie-sanders-real-unemployment-rate-is-10-5/

Ouch, that just might leave a mark. Reckon the MSM will spent much time if any reporting this slap at Obama ??

Step One: Deny

:evil:

Mac-7
07-08-2015, 08:15 PM
Can't answer the question :laugh:

I can't answer the question because I don't know.

But never mind ancient history.

the real unemployment rate is not good under obumer and that is all I care about.

zelmo1234
07-08-2015, 08:23 PM
Obama is using the same math and the Bush administration, I don't know if others used the same or not?

All Democrats know very well that the reason that unemployment is 5.6% is because the worker participations rate has dropped to levels not seen since the 1970's

Mr. Sanders is correct the real unemployment rate is 10 to 11% This is something that the people already know but it will not be helpful to the Democrats.

Peter1469
07-08-2015, 08:35 PM
I can't answer the question because I don't know.

But never mind ancient history.

the real unemployment rate is not good under obumer and that is all I care about.

Look at the bottom of the last column on the chart in post 6. Now you can explain it.

The number is the same as cited in the OP.

Mac-7
07-08-2015, 08:41 PM
Obama is using the same math and the Bush administration, I don't know if others used the same or not?

All Democrats know very well that the reason that unemployment is 5.6% is because the worker participations rate has dropped to levels not seen since the 1970's

Mr. Sanders is correct the real unemployment rate is 10 to 11% This is something that the people already know but it will not be helpful to the Democrats.

I'm not sure that the obumer White House is using the same formula or not.

That crowd is not to be trusted.

But the only thing that counts is what the numbers are today and they suck.

texan
07-08-2015, 10:19 PM
YES or NO Hanger

... are we or are we not using the exact same Math to measure, evaluate and report Unemployment as all the previous Administrations?

:grin: This should be classic

FEEL THAT CEE'GAR? THAT'S PRIDE FING WITH YA!



Old Bernie tells the truth we all know and the dems can't take it? Jimmy Carter shows how his Foreign Policy has F'd up our relationships and an da babies don't like dat either?

Obama is not an exceptional leader or economist.

Mac-7
07-09-2015, 05:54 AM
FEEL THAT CEE'GAR? THAT'S PRIDE FING WITH YA!



Old Bernie tells the truth we all know and the dems can't take it? Jimmy Carter shows how his Foreign Policy has F'd up our relationships and an da babies don't like dat either?

Obama is not an exceptional leader or economist.

Obama voters don't need no stinkin' jobs as long as they have the Dear Leader and the wipe-every-nose welfare state to take care of them.

Cigar
07-09-2015, 08:39 AM
Pick whatever number make you feel good ... but it won't change the Record 64+ positive Jobs Growth :grin:

It's in the Books

Cigar
07-09-2015, 08:40 AM
FEEL THAT CEE'GAR? THAT'S PRIDE FING WITH YA!



Old Bernie tells the truth we all know and the dems can't take it? Jimmy Carter shows how his Foreign Policy has F'd up our relationships and an da babies don't like dat either?

Obama is not an exceptional leader or economist.


:grin: Still Hurts I see ...

Mac-7
07-09-2015, 08:50 AM
Pick whatever number make you feel good ... but it won't change the Record 64+ positive Jobs Growth :grin:

It's in the Books

Underemployed 30 hour workweeks with more people than ever mooching off the government is not an economic success story unless you live in Greece.

Cigar
07-09-2015, 08:53 AM
Not having a good decade are you :laugh:

Mac-7
07-09-2015, 09:50 AM
Not having a good decade are you :laugh:

I don't expect you to understand, but I don't judge every issue according to how it affects me personally.

Conservative republicans also care about what is good for the country and what is good or bad for future generations.

I know I'm talking to the wall here.

but it had to be said on the off chance that a few liberals might understand.

Tahuyaman
07-09-2015, 10:57 AM
It's probably higher.


If Sanders says the real unemployment figure is greater than what the administration reports, the liberals can agree. If a Republican says the exact same thing, those same liberals claim it's a lie.

Tahuyaman
07-09-2015, 10:58 AM
Not having a good decade are you :laugh:


The entire country is not having a good decade. Mine has been better than most.

Tahuyaman
07-09-2015, 11:00 AM
I know I'm talking to the wall here.
.

no, you're talking to one single brick in that wall. There are a bunch more bricks just like him.

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07-13-2015, 10:31 AM
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Captain Obvious
07-13-2015, 10:32 AM
Talmud!

Ivan88
07-13-2015, 10:34 AM
Talmud! You need to explain the connection, yes?

BTW the glorious peoples leaders don't count as unemployed those who have been unemployed longer that 2 years.
If so, maybe they are considered to be employed standing in line for food stamps.