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Cigar
07-13-2015, 03:17 PM
Obamacare continues historic downward slide (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/10/1401034/-Obamacare-continues-historic-downward-nbsp-slide)http://images.dailykos.com/images/77282/large/RTX14UCQ-2.jpg?1397083452

In the uninsured rate, that is. Gallup reports another low (http://www.gallup.com/poll/184064/uninsured-rate-second-quarter.aspx?version=print) in the uninsured rate, which they've been tracking for the past seven years. The rate fell another half of a percentage point, from 11.9 percent to 11.4 percent, in the last quarter.

The uninsured rate has dropped nearly six percentage points since the fourth quarter of 2013, just before the requirement for Americans to carry health insurance took effect. The latest quarterly uninsured rate is the lowest Gallup and Healthways have recorded since daily tracking of this metric began in 2008. […]
Gallup's monthly trend indicates that the decline in the uninsured rate took place late in the first quarter—after the Feb. 15 deadline to purchase health insurance—and that the lower rate held steady throughout the second quarter. The uninsured rate fell to 11.3% by March, and the April, May and June averages were similar.


From a long-range perspective, the uninsured rate has declined across nearly all key subgroups since 2013. But the sharpest declines have occurred among Hispanics, blacks and lower-income Americans. The uninsured rate among Hispanics declined by 9.6 points from the fourth quarter of 2013—the last full quarter of interviewing before the requirement that Americans carry health insurance took effect. Similarly, the percentage of uninsured blacks dipped 8.9 points over this period. Across major subgroups, those making less than $36,000 in annual household income have seen the sharpest drop—9.9 points since the fourth quarter of 2013.

http://images.dailykos.com/images/153212/large/rtu6cnurdkyssge7nehvaw.png?1436537379

Remember how Obamacare was going to destroy insurance for everyone, and how employers were going to stop providing coverage? Yeah, that didn't happen either. The rate of people insured by an employer has remained pretty much stable since 2013, 44.2 percent in the final quarter of that year and 43.4 percent in the second quarter of this year. But now 20.9 percent of people report they are in a plan bought on the individual market by themselves or a family member, up from 17.6 percent in the fourth quarter of 2013. The percentage covered by Medicaid has increased from 6.9 percent to 9.5.



Clearly a disaster for America. :laugh:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/10/1401034/-Obamacare-continues-historic-downward-nbsp-slide?detail=email

Tahuyaman
07-13-2015, 04:07 PM
It's almost sad to watch liberals try to defend this debacle.

Bo-4
07-13-2015, 04:13 PM
Why do you continue to post this HORRID news about Obamacare?
:biglaugh:

Cigar
07-13-2015, 04:19 PM
Why do you continue to post this HORRID news about Obamacare?
:biglaugh:

Yep ... it's such a debacle, Millions are getting in line for it.

How do the Cons explain that?

zelmo1234
07-13-2015, 04:24 PM
Good for him maybe he could institute the rest of the law before he leaves office, not that things are going so well?

hanger4
07-13-2015, 04:24 PM
Yep ... it's such a debacle, Millions are getting in line for it.

How do the Cons explain that?

ooh ooh I know I know, it's the only game in town. :(

Tahuyaman
07-13-2015, 04:39 PM
Yep ... it's such a debacle, Millions are getting in line for it.

How do the Cons explain that?


And millions are are having their premiums skyrocket so high they can't afford it and deductibles rise so much they can't use it.

Cigar
07-13-2015, 04:46 PM
And millions are are having their premiums skyrocket so high they can't afford it and deductibles rise so much they can't use it.

Care to post that Link on MILLIONS are are having their premiums skyrocket :laugh:

zelmo1234
07-13-2015, 04:54 PM
Care to post that Link on MILLIONS are are having their premiums skyrocket :laugh:

Really? Come on Cigar, we go though this every time.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/28/obamacare-sends-health-premiums-skyrocketing-by-as/?page=all

This is what is so annoying about Democrats you have to post the proof over and over and over, because they just keep coming back to the same old lie

Cigar
07-13-2015, 04:57 PM
Really? Come on Cigar, we go though this every time.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/28/obamacare-sends-health-premiums-skyrocketing-by-as/?page=all

This is what is so annoying about Democrats you have to post the proof over and over and over, because they just keep coming back to the same old lie

Naaa ... it's Law now, I got it from a reliable source in Washington :laugh:

zelmo1234
07-13-2015, 05:00 PM
Naaa ... it's Law now, I got it from a reliable source in Washington :laugh:

Nobody said it was not the law you wanted to know about the premium increases, I posted them they are terrible.

Chris
07-13-2015, 05:01 PM
Oops...

http://i.snag.gy/iZ6VL.jpg

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176

Tahuyaman
07-13-2015, 05:01 PM
Really? Come on Cigar, we go though this every time.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/28/obamacare-sends-health-premiums-skyrocketing-by-as/?page=all

This is what is so annoying about Democrats you have to post the proof over and over and over, because they just keep coming back to the same old lie


They are hoping that at some point the reality suddenly changes. Either that, or if you continue to deny the truth somehow the lie ceases to be a lie.

jimmyz
07-13-2015, 05:05 PM
Naaa ... it's Law now, I got it from a reliable source in Washington :laugh:

You don't pay for your healthcare amirite? Civil servant? State or Federal?

Tahuyaman
07-13-2015, 05:06 PM
Naaa ... it's Law now, I got it from a reliable source in Washington :laugh:

yes, it is law now. And of course you are one of these who thinks all laws are wonderful, huh?

By the way, laws are subject to change and or repeal.

Cigar
07-13-2015, 05:07 PM
yes, it is law now. And of course you are one of these who thinks all laws are wonderful, huh?

By the way, laws are subject to change and or repeal.

Keep at it Sport ... :laugh:

domer76
07-13-2015, 05:25 PM
Oops...

http://i.snag.gy/iZ6VL.jpg

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176

From the article, projections have changed little since 2010, and even gone down ($759 B to $710 B). Also in the article:

"Taking the coverage provisions and other provisions together, CBO and JCT have estimated that the ACA will reduce deficits over the next 10 years and in the subsequent decade."

texan
07-13-2015, 05:28 PM
How many have Ocare now, paying not "enrolled"?

Bo-4
07-13-2015, 05:50 PM
They are hoping that at some point the reality suddenly changes. Either that, or if you continue to deny the truth somehow the lie ceases to be a lie.

Reality HAS changed.

How about you get with the program?

Bo-4
07-13-2015, 05:52 PM
How many have Ocare now?

16 million are now insured who would not have been otherwise

This is NOT rocket science my friend.

Tahuyaman
07-13-2015, 05:54 PM
Reality HAS changed.

How about you get with the program?

reality has changed. Now less freedom is called more freedoms. Less security is considered more security. Health care insurance no one can afford to use is considered a good thing now.

zelmo1234
07-13-2015, 08:12 PM
16 million are now insured who would not have been otherwise

This is NOT rocket science my friend.

Well we know that is not true because there are not that many on the program, many that are on the expanded Medicaid actually are not paying into the system and 9 million people lost their insurance and were forced onto the system

The uninsured in the country dropped by about 2.3 million. That is what you can take credit for. It turns out we as a nation are paying about 43K per year for these people to be insured.

Chris
07-13-2015, 08:18 PM
Oops...

http://i.snag.gy/iZ6VL.jpg

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176


From the article, projections have changed little since 2010, and even gone down ($759 B to $710 B). Also in the article:

"Taking the coverage provisions and other provisions together, CBO and JCT have estimated that the ACA will reduce deficits over the next 10 years and in the subsequent decade."


Do you mean costs have skyrocketed under ACA but just not quite as much as projected? You can hardly deny the obvious skyrocket.