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exotix
07-22-2015, 05:39 PM
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Factoid ~ Laredo, Texas is 96% Hispanic


DONALD TRUMP HEADING TO TEXAS BORDER

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/21/exclusive-details-donald-trump-heading-to-texas-border/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/politics/donald-trump-border-patrol-visit/

http://www.ibtimes.com/texas-mexico-immigration-2015-donald-trump-visit-border-laredo-2019705


Breitbart Texas has learned that 2016 Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump is heading to the Texas-Mexico border to get a firsthand look at the current border security situation. Trump is expected to meet with Border Patrol agents of the Laredo Sector.

“We look forward to giving Mr. Trump a boots on the ground perspective on the Laredo Sector of the Texas-Mexico Border,” said National Border Patrol Council, Local 2455 President Hector Garza. “Mr. Trump is expected to be in Laredo later in the week.”

Garza told Breitbart Texas that following the border tour, Trump will have a town hall style meeting where law enforcement officers will be invited to provide feedback on their perspective of the border situation.


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exotix
07-22-2015, 06:04 PM
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Rick Perry Unloads on Donald Trump's 'Barking Carnival Act'

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/rick-perry-unloads-donald-trumps-barking-carnival-act-n396776


Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry delivered a blistering critique of Donald Trump Wednesday, decrying the real estate mogul's "barking carnival act" and likening it to a "cancer."

"Let no one be mistaken - Donald Trump's candidacy is a cancer on conservatism, and it must be clearly diagnosed, excised and discarded," the 2016 presidential hopeful said during remarks in Washington D.C.

"It cannot be pacified or ignored, for it will destroy a set of principles that has lifted more people out of poverty than any force in the history of the civilized world - the cause of conservatism."



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PolWatch
07-22-2015, 06:11 PM
I hope Perry has an unlisted cell phone number.

Things are getting pretty bad:

'Media mogul Rupert Murdoch, executive chairman of Fox News parent News Corp., tweeted his own disgust with Trump (https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/622558129742573568).


“When is Donald Trump going to stop embarrassing his friends, let alone the whole country?” Murdoch wrote on Twitter.'

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bill-oreilly-the-media-despise-trump-because-he-124751397551.html

Mac-7
07-22-2015, 06:23 PM
I wish Perry, Lindsay and other republicans would attack Trump's ideas instead of making personal attacks against the Donald.

but the fact is that he has gotten under their skin.

They are two bland, colorless candidates and Trump is eclipsing them.

Ivan88
07-22-2015, 06:24 PM
What is it that conservatives want to conserve?
Were the Bush boys "conservative"?
What did they conserve? War, lies, torture, slaughter, mayhem and suffering. We really need to conserve on such great US values.
How about, zoning regulations, income tax, property taxes, Patriot acts, Noahide laws, and all the rest of the Talmudic doctrines adopted as US administrative policy at all levels?

whatukno
07-22-2015, 06:49 PM
HA! You know it's bad when Perry and Murdoch think you are too extreme for the party LMAO!

Mac-7
07-22-2015, 06:54 PM
HA! You know it's bad when Perry and Murdoch think you are too extreme for the party LMAO!

I wonder what they think about Bill's coattails?

PolWatch
07-22-2015, 06:57 PM
Who cares about Bill's coattails....the more Donald talks, the saner Hillary looks.

Bo-4
07-22-2015, 07:01 PM
Have you Trumped your Cat?

I have a tiny Yorkie that doesn't shed ... and no cat.

A bit bummed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoI6mPL6kNg

Mac-7
07-22-2015, 07:04 PM
Who cares about Bill's coattails.....

As I keep telling you we have nothing to say to each other.

try to show some self control and do not post to me as I do not post to you.

PolWatch
07-22-2015, 07:13 PM
As I keep telling you we have nothing to say to each other.

try to show some self control and do not post to me as I do not post to you.

Try to remember....I have told you that you have options. You do not have to post on the forum. If you do not wish to respond to my remarks, you do not have to. Try to pretend you are an adult.

Bo-4
07-22-2015, 07:13 PM
As I keep telling you we have nothing to say to each other.

try to show some self control and do not post to me as I do not post to you.

Awesome dude, if you can't talk to the most centrist and reasonable guy on the board..

Then Trump is your man!!

:rofl:

Mac-7
07-22-2015, 07:20 PM
Awesome dude, if you can't talk to the most centrist and reasonable guy on the board..

Then Trump is your man!!

:rofl:

Centrist and reasonable?

Don't make me laugh.

Only a far lefty would call her that.

Mac-7
07-22-2015, 07:24 PM
Try to remember....I have told you that you have options. You do not have to post on the forum. If you do not wish to respond to my remarks, you do not have to. Try to pretend you are an adult.

I don't have to let a mod stalk me when you have so many loyal puppy dogs who will agree with everything you say.

Bo-4
07-22-2015, 07:30 PM
Centrist and reasonable?

Don't make me laugh.

Only a far lefty would call her that.

Anyone left of Hitler or Attilla the Hun is lefty for you.

Summarily disregarded.

Mac-7
07-22-2015, 07:34 PM
Anyone left of Hitler or Attilla the Hun is lefty for you.

Summarily disregarded.

Then I will disregard you along with your patron saint.

PolWatch
07-22-2015, 07:46 PM
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Bo-4
07-22-2015, 08:17 PM
Our Macky need no whine, only cheeeeese!!

If only he was as awesome or dangerous as The Knife


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiGFZUnJgqU

exotix
07-22-2015, 08:45 PM
As I keep telling you we have nothing to say to each other.

try to show some self control and do not post to me as I do not post to you.
Centrist and reasonable?

Don't make me laugh.

Only a far lefty would call her that.

I don't have to let a mod stalk me when you have so many loyal puppy dogs who will agree with everything you say.

Then I will disregard you along with your patron saint.http://i62.tinypic.com/fygvgl.jpg

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 07:26 AM
http://i62.tinypic.com/fygvgl.jpg

Another puppy brown noser speaks up.

exotix
07-23-2015, 02:06 PM
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Donald Trump Arrives at U.S.-Mexico Border

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-arrives-u-s-mexico-border-ahead-tour-n397316

Presidential candidate Donald Trump will make remarks about immigration Thursday at the U.S.-Mexico border amid roiling controversy about his bombastic style and his controversial remarks about Mexican immigrants.

Trump landed in heavily Hispanic Laredo, TX, with scores of media on hand to witness the descent of his private plane, emblazoned with Trump's name.

He went forward with the trip despite a last-minute revocation of an invitation from a local border patrol union that initially offered to host the real estate tycoon's tour of the border.


In a statement Thursday morning, National Border Patrol Council Local 2455 said:

"After careful consideration of all the factors involved in this event and communicating with members of the National Border Patrol Council (NBPC) at the National level, it has been decided by Local 2455 to pull out of all events involving Donald Trump."

Trump's campaign blamed the move on the union's national leadership.


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Bo-4
07-23-2015, 02:10 PM
I wish Perry, Lindsay and other republicans would attack Trump's ideas instead of making personal attacks against the Donald.

but the fact is that he has gotten under their skin.

They are two bland, colorless candidates and Trump is eclipsing them.

Yes, i mean after all .. Trump didn't make any personal attacks against them!

:rofl:

Bo-4
07-23-2015, 02:11 PM
Centrist and reasonable?

Don't make me laugh.

Only a far lefty would call her that.

As i recall, you think Peter is a flaming lib-rul too.

You're hilarious!

exotix
07-23-2015, 02:16 PM
Happening Now


'Hispanics Love Me'

http://i61.tinypic.com/a9vlvr.jpg

exotix
07-23-2015, 02:22 PM
'Hispanics love me because they will get the jobs I'll bring back from China and Japan'

PolWatch
07-23-2015, 02:26 PM
:smiley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO::s miley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO::smiley_ROFLMAO::smi ley_ROFLMAO:

exotix
07-23-2015, 02:31 PM
Who are those Cartel-looking mofos all around 'em ?

LOL

Cigar
07-23-2015, 02:33 PM
I wish Perry, Lindsay and other republicans would attack Trump's ideas instead of making personal attacks against the Donald.

but the fact is that he has gotten under their skin.

They are two bland, colorless candidates and Trump is eclipsing them.

Trump has an idea? :huh:

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 02:36 PM
I wish Perry, Lindsay and other republicans would attack Trump's ideas instead of making personal attacks against the Donald.

but the fact is that he has gotten under their skin.

They are two bland, colorless candidates and Trump is eclipsing them.

What do you think about Trump's personal attacks on those who criticize him?

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 02:43 PM
Yes, i mean after all .. Trump didn't make any personal attacks against them!

:rofl:

He didn't.

Trump attacked illegal aliens and everyone including establishment repubs attacked him.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 02:45 PM
What do you think about Trump's personal attacks on those who criticize him?

I like it.

We are not going to battle back against all the threats we face with a pussy whipped pantywaist for president.

Cigar
07-23-2015, 02:50 PM
He didn't.

Trump attacked illegal aliens and everyone including establishment repubs attacked him.

Yes he did same some of them are ok :laugh:, and that's all the Votes he'll ever get.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 02:58 PM
Yes he did same some of them are ok :laugh:, and that's all the Votes he'll ever get.

According to all the liberal experts on this board Trump should have dropped out by now.

But instead of registering less than 1% in the polls as a few repub candidates are doing Donald Trump is leading the field.

Can any liberal explain that?

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 03:04 PM
I like it.

We are not going to battle back against all the threats we face with a $#@! whipped pantywaist for president.

so, you like it when his only response to criticism is to call someone stupid? That put him in the same class as some of the left wing goof-balls here.

Cigar
07-23-2015, 03:04 PM
They Love Him in Laredo :laugh:

http://media.giphy.com/media/hDwYu8UEcUone/giphy.gif

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 03:06 PM
According to all the liberal experts on this board Trump should have dropped out by now.

But instead of registering less than 1% in the polls as a few repub candidates are doing Donald Trump is leading the field.


Can any liberal explain that?


I'm not an expert and I'm certainly not a liberal, but I've always said that he will drop out sometime in the fall.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 03:08 PM
so, you like it when his only response to criticism is to call someone stupid? That put him in the same class as some of the left wing goof-balls here.

The attacks on trump were personal attacks and that's how he responded.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 03:09 PM
I'm not an expert and I'm certainly not a liberal, but I've always said that he will drop out sometime in the fall.

My question was meant to be why is he leading now?

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 03:16 PM
My question was meant to be why is he leading now?

For two reasons. First, I think some people like the fact that he doesn't back down when he gets criticized, right or wrong. There will always be those who are attracted to that personality.

The second reason is that there are 16 people in the race. Once The field thins out to just the serious candidates, he will falter.

PolWatch
07-23-2015, 03:17 PM
Trump is leading because the repub party is so fragmented. He is attracting those who are discouraged with the lack of leadership. The big win in Nov. has proved to be more of a problem than a plus. Where are the great changes that the new majority was going to provide? He is proving that the GOP can still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 03:17 PM
The attacks on trump were personal attacks and that's how he responded.


There are times he's lobbed the first attack.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 03:26 PM
There are times he's lobbed the first attack.

The particular issue at the moment is illegal aliens.

And I don't think he attacked any republican candidates by name.

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 03:27 PM
Trump is leading because the repub party is so fragmented. He is attracting those who are discouraged with the lack of leadership. The big win in Nov. has proved to be more of a problem than a plus. Where are the great changes that the new majority was going to provide? He is proving that the GOP can still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

you're wrong. It's not a matter of fragmentation. There's simply a lot of people competing for the same support. He's attracting the people who find his aggressive personality appealing.

If you want to see a fragmented party look at the Democrats. You have just two credible candidates and neither one can gain a majority of support. Once Trump is out of the picture, they will have to turn their attention to defending their own views and policy proposals. All they do now is criticize Trump. That's not a winning strategy as he will be out of the picture by the time the serious campaign season kicks in.

The Democrats have an empty bench. There no future talent there. They only stand for more of the same old liberal policies of the last sixty years.

Of the Republican candidates, maybe four or five are not credible candidates. They have a deep talent pool right now.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 03:29 PM
For two reasons. First, I think some people like the fact that he doesn't back down when he gets criticized, right or wrong. There will always be those who are attracted to that personality.

The second reason is that there are 16 people in the race. Once The field thins out to just the serious candidates, he will falter.

How about the fact or possibility that Trump is more in tune with American voters and picked an issue they will support?

Trump is saying what Rubio or Walker has not said and what Jeb bush can never say.

exotix
07-23-2015, 03:34 PM
He didn't.

Trump attacked illegal aliens and everyone including establishment repubs attacked him.
I like it.

We are not going to battle back against all the threats we face with a $#@! whipped pantywaist for president.
My question was meant to be why is he leading now?
The particular issue at the moment is illegal aliens.

And I don't think he attacked any republican candidates by name.
How about the fact or possibility that Trump is more in tune with American voters and picked an issue they will support?

Trump is saying what Rubio or Walker has not said and what Jeb bush can never say.

Starting at 8:59

'I'm leading now and winning the Hispanic vote because Hispanics know that I'm bringing jobs back from China and Japan and the Hispanics are gonna get those Jobs'


http://i58.tinypic.com/s5dy1h.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOjtCTWuUUs

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 03:39 PM
Starting at 8:59

'I'm leading now and winning the Hispanic vote because Hispanics know that I'm bringing jobs back from China and Japan and the Hispanics are gonna get those Jobs'


http://i58.tinypic.com/s5dy1h.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOjtCTWuUUs

No republican can win the Hispanic vote because as a group they are natural democrats who expect government handouts

But Trump is a master salesman who never shows a defeatist attitude.

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 03:44 PM
How about the fact or possibility that Trump is more in tune with American voters and picked an issue they will support?

Trump is saying what Rubio or Walker has not said and what Jeb bush can never say.

He's in tune with a very small segment of the population and most of them realize he's not a serious candidate.

One thing though, Trump has demonstrated that people can be attracted to a candidate who stands his ground and won't be bullied. Other candidates would be wise to take notice. They just need to not state their views in stupid ways which show you don't have the temperament or intellect to be the President of the United States.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 03:50 PM
He's in tune with a very small segment of the population and most of them realize he's not a serious candidate.

One thing though, Trump has demonstrated that people can be attracted to a candidate who stands his ground and won't be bullied. Other candidates would be wise to take notice. They just need to not state their views in stupid ways which show you don't have the temperament or intellect to be the President of the United States.

I agree that Trump's personality resonates.

But I think it was not until he applied that personality to a bombshell issue that he really took off.

The public is dying for a leader who will take on the important issues of the day and so far trump is the only one.

Maybe he will be an example for the Republican Party stiffs to give the voters more respect.

exotix
07-23-2015, 03:54 PM
No republican can win the Hispanic vote because as a group they are natural democrats who expect government handouts

But a Trump is a master salesman who never shows a defeatist attitude.That you actually just said that with a straight face ... well, kudos to you sir ! ... LOL

PolWatch
07-23-2015, 04:06 PM
you're wrong. It's not a matter of fragmentation. There's simply a lot of people competing for the same support. He's attracting the people who find his aggressive personality appealing.

If you want to see a fragmented party look at the Democrats. You have just two credible candidates and neither one can gain a majority of support. Once Trump is out of the picture, they will have to turn their attention to defending their own views and policy proposals. All they do now is criticize Trump. That's not a winning strategy as he will be out of the picture by the time the serious campaign season kicks in.

The Democrats have an empty bench. There no future talent there. They only stand for more of the same old liberal policies of the last sixty years.

Of the Republican candidates, maybe four or five are not credible candidates. They have a deep talent pool right now.

I think that if Trump stays in the race (which I doubt) and some drop out....he will not continue to keep such high polls. He appeals to a small portion of the repub party...imo. I think about 1/2 of the repubs are in this race for name recognition only. They are setting the stage for future runs so I agree with your view of the future.

No one wants to run against Hillary. I suspect Sanders knows this is his last shot. A good show will mean larger speaking fees after his retirement. Is Hillary really the best dem? I don't think so. 2016 should be the year of the GOP. I think she is a throw away candidate. Not much chance of winning but this is her last shot.

Trump is the best thing the dems have seen in several years. He is splintering the gop and if he continues to make outrageous statements, he will continue to alienate some of the voters the gop has been courting for 8 years....minorities. I do not think the dems will win but I do think the repubs can lose.

exotix
07-23-2015, 04:20 PM
I think that if Trump stays in the race (which I doubt) and some drop out....he will not continue to keep such high polls. He appeals to a small portion of the repub party...imo. I think about 1/2 of the repubs are in this race for name recognition only. They are setting the stage for future runs so I agree with your view of the future.

No one wants to run against Hillary. I suspect Sanders knows this is his last shot. A good show will mean larger speaking fees after his retirement. Is Hillary really the best dem? I don't think so. 2016 should be the year of the GOP. I think she is a throw away candidate. Not much chance of winning but this is her last shot.

Trump is the best thing the dems have seen in several years. He is splintering the gop and if he continues to make outrageous statements, he will continue to alienate some of the voters the gop has been courting for 8 years....minorities. I do not think the dems will win but I do think the repubs can lose.
In short, Trump will go 3rd Party ... he's already alluded to that ... whence he'll grab at least 20% of the GOP vote ...

So right now the GOP is in what's known as a political prisoners' dilemma ... as long as he stays in the GOP campaign, he sucks all of the oxygen out ... if he goes 3rd Party, the GOP won't even come close to Billary ...

The last time we saw anything remotely like this was with Perot.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 04:24 PM
That you actually just said that with a straight face ... well, kudos to you sir ! ... LOL

I'll say it again.

Trump is saying what a majority of the voters are thinking - namely that we gave too many illegal aliens in this country with more on the way.

Bush is pro illegal alien.

And for blue collar democrats , so is the Cookie Lady.

Walker was for illegals and amnesty before he was against it.

The same goes for Rubio.

They are all tools of the Chamber of Commerce and La Raza.

But Trump is giving many voters - not just a tiny few - something to believe in again.

PolWatch
07-23-2015, 04:27 PM
In short, Trump will go 3rd Party ... he's already alluded to that ... whence he'll grab at least 20% of the GOP vote ...

So right now the GOP is in what's known as a political prisoners' dilemma ... as long as he stays in the GOP campaign, he sucks all of the oxygen out ... if he goes 3rd Party, the GOP won't even come close to Billary ...

The last time we saw anything remotely like this was with Perot.

Pretty much. I think the repub party could be trying to scrape the smell of Trump off their shoes in 2016.

exotix
07-23-2015, 04:28 PM
I'll say it again.

Trump is saying what a majority of the voters are thinking - namely that we gave too many illegal aliens in this country with more on the way.

Bush is pro illegal alien.

so us the Cookie Lady for blue collar democrats.

Walker was for illegals and amnesty before he was against it.

The same goes for Rubio.

They are all tools of the Chamber of Commerce and La Raza.

But Trump is giving many voters - not just a tiny few - something to believe in again.Yes Trump talks a lot of smack but with not one iota of a policy or solution ...

Say for instance, I think I heard one reporter ask which side of the border is he gonna build the wall ... he pretended not to hear it because as you know ... U.S. cattle drink from the Rio Grande.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 04:29 PM
So right now the GOP is in what's known as a political prisoners' dilemma ... as long as he stays in the GOP campaign, he sucks all of the oxygen out ... if he goes 3rd Party, the GOP won't even come close to Billary ...


Well, in that case why not accept Trump as the party candidate and help elect him president?

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 04:30 PM
Yes Trump talks a lot of smack but with not one iota of a policy or solution ...

Say for instance, I think I heard one reporter ask which side of the border is he gonna build the wall ... he pretended not to hear it because as you know ... U.S. cattle drink from the Rio Grande.

what an idiot reporter.

Has he never heard of pipes and pumps and cattle troughs?

exotix
07-23-2015, 04:36 PM
what an idiot reporter.

Has he never heard of pipes and pumps and cattle troughs?No sweat ... you the taxpayer are gonna pay for the wall (Trump now says the U.S. Govt. will build it) ... replete with a U.S. Military force to repel the Mexican Army during construction ...

Heck, it only cost you $3 Billion to build the U.S. Embassy in Iraq as the war raged.

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 04:37 PM
The public is dying for a leader who will take on the important issues of the day and so far trump is the only one.


They also want this candidate to be intelligent, well spoken and respected world wide. Trump's not that guy.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 04:38 PM
No sweat ... you the taxpayer are gonna pay for the wall (Trump said the U.S. Govt. will build it) ... replete with a U.S. Military force to repel the Mexican Army during construction ...

Heck, it only cost you $3 Billion to build the U.S. Embassy Iraq as the war raged.

The wall is cheaper than feeding 100 million poor people from Latin America and the rest of the world.

exotix
07-23-2015, 04:39 PM
The wall is cheaper than feeding 100 million poor people from Latin America and the rest of the world.
I remember when your boy Wolfowitz said Iraq Oil will pay for the war.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 04:42 PM
I remember when your boy Wolfowitz said Iraq Oil will pay for the war.

When you have to change the subject you lose the debate.

whatukno
07-23-2015, 04:43 PM
The wall is cheaper than feeding 100 million poor people from Latin America and the rest of the world.


I love how this number keeps going up. eventually you guys are going to hit the big B, then go onto claim that TRILLIONS of illegals pour into the country every single microsecond, ALL HYPER PREGNANT SPITTING OUT CHILDREN ALONG THE WAY FASTER THAN A MACHINE GUN!

LMAO!

Now we have almost a third of the United States population as illegals LMAO!

exotix
07-23-2015, 04:44 PM
When you have to change the subject you lose the debate.Let's get your buddy Ransom in on this to talk about the cost of the Wall in terms of the Debt Clock ... LOL

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 04:44 PM
They also want this candidate to be intelligent, well spoken and respected world wide. Trump's not that guy.

Trump is intelligent.

And he speaks well.

When you say respected you mean approved of.

But I'm not sure average voters care what the French think.

BB-35
07-23-2015, 04:44 PM
I remember when your boy Wolfowitz said Iraq Oil will pay for the war.
It was said it COULD pay for the war,not would

exotix
07-23-2015, 04:46 PM
It was said it COULD pay for the war,not would
No sweat ... simply run-up the national debt in case of war ... Ransom will attest to this ... LOL

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 04:48 PM
I love how this number keeps going up. eventually you guys are going to hit the big B, then go onto claim that TRILLIONS of illegals pour into the country every single microsecond, ALL HYPER PREGNANT SPITTING OUT CHILDREN ALONG THE WAY FASTER THAN A MACHINE GUN!

LMAO!

Now we have almost a third of the United States population as illegals LMAO!

The lowball estimate is 11 million.

Others put it at 25-30 million which I think is more accurate.

Given amnesty and without the wall to hold them back there are sure to be another 70 to 100 million flooding across in the next 10-20 years.

PolWatch
07-23-2015, 04:48 PM
The most recent estimates I could locate were 2012 and that was 11.2 million. That was not impressive enough so why not increase it to 100 million? Those quoting 100 million will believe anything Rush tells 'em.

whatukno
07-23-2015, 04:54 PM
The lowball estimate is 11 million.

Others put it at 25-30 million which I think is more accurate.

Given amnesty and without the wall to hold them back there are sure to be another 70 to 100 million flooding across in the next 10-20 years.

Walk it on back now, walk it on back, foot in mouth disease is curable. Keep on walking on back.

I'm still waiting till y'all claim that billions of illegals cross the border, then someone will up it to TRILLIONS!

It's like the old "200 million dollar a day Obama trip to India" statistic. Totally pulled out of someone's ass and believed by every Conservative that watches FOX News.

Are all those hundreds of millions of illegals rapid fire birthing along the way yet?

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 04:57 PM
The 1986 amnesty legalized 3 million illegals.

We were promised that was a one-time deal cause government had a plan to solve the problem.

Even though they lied then government is asking us to believe them this time.

But it's still the same lie of amnesty first with the fix to come later.

exotix
07-23-2015, 05:30 PM
Trump is intelligent.

And he speaks well.

When you say respected you mean approved of.

But I'm not sure average voters care what the French think.I think what it is we wanna know is why you're in to Trump for the bombast and not one shred of substance .. unless of course this is the norm for the state of the GOP ... LOL

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 05:35 PM
I think what it is we wanna know is why you're in to Trump for the bombast and not one shred of substance .. unless of course this is the norm for the state of the GOP ... LOL

Detailed game plans are pretty meaningless in politics because what really matters is does the candidate mean it or not?

Right now Trump and maybe Bernie Sanders are the only ones who appear to mean what they say.

Bernie wants a bigger welfare state and trump wants to rebuild American greatness.

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 06:17 PM
Trump is intelligent.

And he speaks well.

When you say respected you mean approved of.

But I'm not sure average voters care what the French think.
Trump may be intelligent, but he doesn't come off that way because of his buffoonery.

And when I say respected, I mean just that. Respected. That really shouldn't need explanation.

Mini Me
07-23-2015, 08:28 PM
I have to agree with Mac7. An economic collapse could flood the US. with many millions more!

I think that's why we have all the Fema camps set up.

I am against ANY more immigration, legal or illegal. We have too many unemployed, and stagnant wages as it is now! We have been Californicated!

Cigar
07-23-2015, 08:47 PM
Trump is intelligent.

And he speaks well.

When you say respected you mean approved of.

But I'm not sure average voters care what the French think.


http://media.giphy.com/media/hDwYu8UEcUone/giphy.gif

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 08:55 PM
Trump may be intelligent, but he doesn't come off that way because of his buffoonery.

And when I say respected, I mean just that. Respected. That really shouldn't need explanation.

I don't think there is any doubt about Trump's intelligence.

and I suppose buffoonery is on the eyes of the beholder.

Right now none of the republican candidates have been able to present themselves to the public.

That even includes a trump who everyone has heard him talked about but have not spent much time listening to him directly.

This campaign is just getting started and plenty of things have yet to happen.

Mac-7
07-23-2015, 08:56 PM
I have to agree with Mac7. An economic collapse could flood the US. with many millions more!

I think that's why we have all the Fema camps set up.

I am against ANY more immigration, legal or illegal. We have too many unemployed, and stagnant wages as it is now! We have been Californicated!

We seem to agree about that.

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 09:33 PM
Right now none of the republican candidates have been able to present themselves to the public.


that's not true. Obviously the media is focusing on Trump because you never know what's going to come out of his pie hole when he gets going.

Tahuyaman
07-23-2015, 11:07 PM
Love him or not, you have to admire the way he bitch-slapped certain media hacks in Texas.

exotix
07-24-2015, 07:31 AM
Love him or not, you have to admire the way he $#@!-slapped certain media hacks in Texas.Did you notice that Trump was hanging-out in front of the womens' bathroom watching 'em going in and out ?

LOL

Bo-4
07-24-2015, 09:28 AM
According to all the liberal experts on this board Trump should have dropped out by now.

But instead of registering less than 1% in the polls as a few repub candidates are doing Donald Trump is leading the field.

Can any liberal explain that?

Yes, there are many very stupid people in this country.

Bo-4
07-24-2015, 09:31 AM
Did you notice that Trump was hanging-out in front of the womens' bathroom watching 'em going in and out ?

LOL

I'm telling Melania! :cool:

http://www.more.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/325x281/Melania Trump.jpg

Bo-4
07-24-2015, 09:35 AM
The Mexican people LOVE TrumPPP (gotta spit the P when you get to it).

Believe me, they will vote for TrumP because of all the jobs i'm gonna bring back from ChIIIna (gotta hold the I ;-)

On the same morning that Trump was bragging that he would win the Hispanic vote, a newly released Washington Post-ABC News poll (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/07/15/trumps-popularity-spikes-among-republicans/?postshare=981436959132487) found that 81 percent of Hispanic voters had an unfavorable opinion of Trump, compared to just 13 percent who viewed him favorably. Donald Trump apparently confused love with hate, as his net favorable rating with Latino voters is negative 68 points. Even by the most charitable assessment, those results can only be summarized as Hispanic voters can’t stand Trump.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/15/trump-tells-morning-joe-the-hispanics-love-me-poll-shows-stand.html

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 09:39 AM
I'm telling Melania! :cool:

http://www.more.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/325x281/Melania Trump.jpg

She looks much better than those dogs bill Clinton goes for.

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 09:42 AM
The Mexican people LOVE TrumPPP (gotta spit the P when you get to it).

Believe me, they will vote for TrumP because of all the jobs i'm gonna bring back from ChIIIna (gotta hold the I ;-)

On the same morning that Trump was bragging that he would win the Hispanic vote, a newly released Washington Post-ABC News poll (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/07/15/trumps-popularity-spikes-among-republicans/?postshare=981436959132487) found that 81 percent of Hispanic voters had an unfavorable opinion of Trump, compared to just 13 percent who viewed him favorably. Donald Trump apparently confused love with hate, as his net favorable rating with Latino voters is negative 68 points. Even by the most charitable assessment, those results can only be summarized as Hispanic voters can’t stand Trump.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/15/trump-tells-morning-joe-the-hispanics-love-me-poll-shows-stand.html

Romney didnt do much better in 2012 at 27%.

Most Hispanics are poor and looking to the democrats for government handouts.

So 25 to 30% is the ceiling for repubs unless they go completely socialist like the dems.

Cigar
07-24-2015, 09:42 AM
She looks much better than those dogs bill Clinton goes for.

You getting a little personal ... :grin:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT010HKfUjEEw1PHNgr-kRJXl8Lg66LIjpCEEINMSmgivsSzax3

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 09:48 AM
You getting a little personal ... :grin:

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT010HKfUjEEw1PHNgr-kRJXl8Lg66LIjpCEEINMSmgivsSzax3

Barbara Bush looks fine.

Shes neither a slut or a bra burning feminist with a fence-post ugly face like Bill Clinton's choices in women.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 09:50 AM
Yes, there are many very stupid people in this country.


And I suppose you don't consider yourself among that group?

Are you one of these people who thinks that everyone is uniformed and stupid except for you? The world would be a better place if everyone thought like you?

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 09:52 AM
Barbara Bush looks fine.

Shes neither a $#@! or a bra burning feminist with a fence-post ugly face like Bill Clinton's choices in women.


She was a classy First Lady, that's for sure.

Captain Obvious
07-24-2015, 09:53 AM
Barbara Bush looks fine.

Shes neither a slut or a bra burning feminist with a fence-post ugly face like Bill Clinton's choices in women.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2asqe2Zzr1r2rtfpo4_500.jpg

Bo-4
07-24-2015, 10:00 AM
Romney didnt do much better in 2012 at 27%.

Most Hispanics are poor and looking to the democrats for government handouts.

So 25 to 30% is the ceiling for repubs unless they go completely socialist like the dems.

You do realize you're gonna need around 46% of the Hispanic vote to win the White House next year right Macky?

Good luck with that. :D

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 10:05 AM
You do realize you're gonna need around 46% of the Hispanic vote to win the White House next year right Macky?

Good luck with that. :D

That is not true.

But if it were a fact the dems will not even need to campaign in future elections.

because they will alwys get 75% of the Hispanic vote no matter what.

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 10:06 AM
"Cancer to conservatism" seems to be right on the money.

Captain Obvious
07-24-2015, 10:08 AM
"Cancer to conservatism" seems to be right on the money.

"Conservative" doesn't accurately describe teh Donald.

Half capitalist half tabloid pop culture is the more accurate description.

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 10:08 AM
"Cancer to conservatism" seems to be right on the money.

More phony concern from a liberal who only wants liberals to win.

Peter1469
07-24-2015, 10:17 AM
I like how Trump manhandles the MSM.

Bo-4
07-24-2015, 10:35 AM
That is not true.

But if it were a fact the dems will not even need to campaign in future elections.

because they will alwys get 75% of the Hispanic vote no matter what.

I was wrong.. only over 40% (not 46). So according to Rubio, his pollster, and yourself.. prepare to never win again! :cool:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/04/02/rubio-pollster-gop-needs-40-percent-of-the-hispanic-vote-to-win-in-2016-n1979044

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 10:54 AM
More phony concern from a liberal who only wants liberals to win.

Wasn't concern at all - I hope he tanks the Republican party and he seems right on course. Maybe then we can have some real conservatives create a party/group and represent Americans the way they should be. Don't worry - I wouldn't consider you a real conservative.

exotix
07-24-2015, 10:57 AM
I like how Trump manhandles the MSM.Really ?

Maybe it's substantive too.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 11:01 AM
You do realize you're gonna need around 46% of the Hispanic vote to win the White House next year right Macky?

Good luck with that. :D

where did you come up with that one?

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 11:02 AM
Wasn't concern at all - I hope he tanks the Republican party and he seems right on course. Maybe then we can have some real conservatives create a party/group and represent Americans the way they should be. Don't worry - I wouldn't consider you a real conservative.

And of course you are a "real conservative"?

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 11:04 AM
And of course you are a "real conservative"?

Hell no. Certainly not. My family, however, is.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 11:06 AM
Hell no. Certainly not. My family, however, is.

And that qualifies you to determine what a "real conservative" is?

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 11:08 AM
I'm always amused by liberals who claim they know whats best for conservatives.

They think that conservatives would dominate the political environment if they would only take their advice.

Captain Obvious
07-24-2015, 11:09 AM
I'm always amused by liberals who claim they know whats best for conservatives.

That's because you amuse easily.

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 11:17 AM
And that qualifies you to determine what a "real conservative" is?

You mean like how people are constantly determining whether I'm allowed to have an opinion? Or in Mac's case, determining I'm too liberal or too Canadian or too female to possibly have a brain?

In reality, I would vote conservative over Democrat if conservative/Republican leaders in the US weren't such caricatures in their current state. I do not like the Democrats. Republicans are simply SSDD. I end up agreeing more with libertarians on a lot of issues because Democrats are absolute idiots. If a real conservative represented conservatism properly I would vote for that person over a Democrat any day. As it is, you've got two corrupt parties who represent neither side appropriately but who dominate because they can get the corporate backing and super PACs... aka buy elections.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 11:18 AM
That's because you amuse easily.

I find many things quite funny. That's the method I employ which allows me to tolerate someone like you.

Bo-4
07-24-2015, 11:21 AM
where did you come up with that one?

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/04/02/rubio-pollster-gop-needs-40-percent-of-the-hispanic-vote-to-win-in-2016-n1979044

Good luck!

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 11:21 AM
You mean like how people are constantly determining whether I'm allowed to have an opinion? Or in Mac's case, determining I'm too liberal or too Canadian or too female to possibly have a brain?

no one says you can't have an opinion. Just as no one says anyone needs to take your opinions seriously


In reality, I would vote conservative over Democrat if conservative/Republican leaders in the US weren't such caricatures in their current state. I do not like the Democrats. Republicans are simply SSDD. I end up agreeing more with libertarians on a lot of issues because Democrats are absolute idiots. If a real conservative represented conservatism properly I would vote for that person over a Democrat any day. As it is, you've got two corrupt parties who represent neither side appropriately but who dominate because they can get the corporate backing and super PACs... aka buy elections.

So, you'd vote for a conservative if they weren't a conservative. OK......

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 11:24 AM
I'm always amused by liberals who claim they know whats best for conservatives.

They think that conservatives would dominate the political environment if they would only take their advice.

I don't ever expect conservatives to endorse my views on gun control, for example, but if a conservative candidate presented him/herself with a realistic plan for the economy I would happily overlook things like gun control or capital punishment or abortion or whatever major issue divides liberals and conservatives traditionally along social lines. Neither party can offer a realistic plan. Neither party can offer a solution to the problems that exist in the US. Economically, I'm fairly conservative in practice if not in theory which is a reflection of where I grew up.

I don't qualify a real conservative as someone who takes the advice of liberals and moderates their opinions to conform. I qualify them as actually holding and representing the ideals of conservatism instead of the ideals of corporatism and whatever ideals it will take to get elected and hold office.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 11:27 AM
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/04/02/rubio-pollster-gop-needs-40-percent-of-the-hispanic-vote-to-win-in-2016-n1979044

Good luck!

Nice try.

George W Bush got 30 or 35% of the Latino vote in 2000. His father got about the same when he defeated Dukakis.

In those elections the Democrat got 60% or more of the Latino vote. They lost.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 11:31 AM
I don't ever expect conservatives to endorse my views on gun control, for example, but if a conservative candidate presented him/herself with a realistic plan for the economy I would happily overlook things like gun control or capital punishment or abortion or whatever major issue divides liberals and conservatives traditionally along social lines. Neither party can offer a realistic plan. Neither party can offer a solution to the problems that exist in the US. Economically, I'm fairly conservative in practice if not in theory which is a reflection of where I grew up.

I don't qualify a real conservative as someone who takes the advice of liberals and moderates their opinions to conform. I qualify them as actually holding and representing the ideals of conservatism instead of the ideals of corporatism and whatever ideals it will take to get elected and hold office.

its easy to tell everyone of a decisions you would make when you know you will never need to face them.

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 11:42 AM
its easy to tell everyone of a decisions you would make when you know you will never need to face them.

Actually, I'm in the process of immigrating to the US and am currently residing here. But nice try at dismissing my opinion. When you can't argue it, just dismiss it. Typical.

Bo-4
07-24-2015, 12:07 PM
Nice try.

George W Bush got 30 or 35% of the Latino vote in 2000. His father got about the same when he defeated Dukakis.

In those elections the Democrat got 60% or more of the Latino vote. They lost.

What you fail to understand is the change in demographics since 2000 and prior. 30-35% used to be enough.

No mas.

Btw, Mittens got 22% in '12. Republicans can't keep talking like they've been talking and hope to do any better. ;-)

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/gop-2016-win-will-need-more-40-percent-latino-vote-n394006

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 02:53 PM
I was wrong.. only over 40% (not 46). So according to Rubio, his pollster, and yourself.. prepare to never win again! :cool:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2015/04/02/rubio-pollster-gop-needs-40-percent-of-the-hispanic-vote-to-win-in-2016-n1979044

Not even 40%.

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 02:54 PM
Wasn't concern at all - I hope he tanks the Republican party and he seems right on course. Maybe then we can have some real conservatives create a party/group and represent Americans the way they should be. Don't worry - I wouldn't consider you a real conservative.

Thats what I said.

You are no friend of republicans.

None of the libs are.

maineman
07-24-2015, 02:56 PM
Nice try.

George W Bush got 30 or 35% of the Latino vote in 2000. His father got about the same when he defeated Dukakis.

In those elections the Democrat got 60% or more of the Latino vote. They lost.

have you looked at the demographic breakdown and compared the percentage of hispanic voters today versus 1988?

of course you haven't.

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 02:57 PM
You mean like how people are constantly determining whether I'm allowed to have an opinion?

Or in Mac's case, determining I'm too liberal or too Canadian or too female to possibly have a brain?



You certainly are Canadian and really should butt out of American issues.

But I didn't have to say it because I knew that you knew my position on that.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 05:57 PM
What you fail to understand is the change in demographics since 2000 and prior. 30-35% used to be enough.

No mas.

Btw, Mittens got 22% in '12. Republicans can't keep talking like they've been talking and hope to do any better. ;-)

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/gop-2016-win-will-need-more-40-percent-latino-vote-n394006

oh, I see. Facts are meaningless to you. Got it.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 05:58 PM
Actually, I'm in the process of immigrating to the US and am currently residing here. But nice try at dismissing my opinion. When you can't argue it, just dismiss it. Typical.


Please stay put. We have enough meat whistles here now..

Please keep the discussion civil. No name calling.

Safety
07-24-2015, 06:04 PM
Please stay put. We have enough meat whistles here now..

That's totally uncalled for.

Bob
07-24-2015, 06:09 PM
have you looked at the demographic breakdown and compared the percentage of hispanic voters today versus 1988?

of course you haven't.

Gore instantly made thousands of Mexicans citizens to obtain their vote. We know Obama knows of that and is making sure he does more and more of the same.

Mexicans by nature are more likely to be Catholics. There is no reason for them to vote for a person that believes Catholics are full of crap.

Attempting to Naturalize as many new Americans as possible for votes is nothing new to the Democratic Party. Though it looks like the Obama Administration may conduct this goal through a blanket amnesty, the Clinton Administration tried to create more Democrats a different way, by taking advantage of a program called Citizenship USA.
Heres a little background. In 1995 the INS decided it was overwhelmed with a backlog of Citizenship applicants and decided to form an program called Citizenship USA to speed the process up from a 3 year wait, to a 6 month wait. Meaning an applicant could become an American Citizen within 6 months of turning in paperwork. The Clinton White House sought to take advantage of this program and to turn these new American Citizens into instant Democrat Voters.
The Acting Inspector General Robert L. Ashbaugh (http://lapa.princeton.edu/peopledetail.php?ID=586) conducted an Investigation into Citizenship USA and heres a link to his full report (http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/0007/listpdf.htm) titled,”An Investigation of the Immigration and Naturalization Service’s Citizenship USA Initiative (http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/0007/listpdf.htm)”
The report found that Immigrants were rushed through the Naturalization process with inadequate files, no background checks, and no finger print checks.
From the Report (http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/0007/conclus.pdf)s Conclusions (emphasis mine):

http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2010/08/from-immigrants-to-democrats-the-citizenship-usa-program/

maineman
07-24-2015, 06:11 PM
so... you think that your candidate will increase the GOP take of hispanic votes in 2016? Is that your prediction?

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 06:17 PM
so... you think that your candidate will increase the GOP take of hispanic votes in 2016? Is that your prediction?

The GOP glass ceiling for Hispanics is 25-30%.

The other 70-75% of Hispanics are socialist democrats to their core who vote for the a Party of The Free Ride because that's where the government freebees come from.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 06:18 PM
That's totally uncalled for.


No. It was completely called for. We need to be more selective who we let live here. If they don't understand the principles under which this nation was founded, stay out.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 06:19 PM
The GOP glass ceiling for Hispanics is 25-30%.

The other 70-75% of Hispanics are socialist democrats to their core who vote for the a Party of The Free Ride because that's where the government freebees come from.


George W Bush got more than 40% in 2004.

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 06:26 PM
Please stay put. We have enough meat whistles here now..

America has very compassionate refugee policies.

Even for Canadians who we have too many of already.

Safety
07-24-2015, 06:26 PM
No. It was completely called for. We need to be more selective who we let live here. If they don't understand the principles under which this nation was founded, stay out.

Calling someone a meat whistle is not called for, no matter how you feel about their opinion.

Mac-7
07-24-2015, 06:31 PM
George W Bush got more than 40% in 2004.

Bush was peeking in his pants to give them amnesty along with other favorable for illegal aliens.

The GOP Washington establishment would love to cave in to la raza again but the base refuses to play along.

Bush was also very liberal when it came to welfare handouts.

Hopefully we won't see that in the Republican Party again soon.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 06:47 PM
Calling someone a meat whistle is not called for, no matter how you feel about their opinion.


It was called for. If you don't like it, complain to someone who cares.

Please keep the discussion civil. No name calling.

Safety
07-24-2015, 06:50 PM
It was called for. If you don't like it, complain to someone who cares.

This isn't something you should double down on stupid with.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 06:52 PM
Bush was peeking in his pants to give them amnesty along with other favorable for illegal aliens.

The GOP Washington establishment would love to cave in to la raza again but the base refuses to play along.

Bush was also very liberal when it came to welfare handouts.

Hopefully we won't see that in the Republican Party again soon.
the bottom line, the Republucan is not going to need to get more than 30% of the Latino vote. What's going to be the most important factor is whether or not he, or she can motivate the Republican / conservative base. That's why Romney list. Conservatives stayed home. They refused to vote for a liberal posing as a conservative.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 06:53 PM
This isn't something you should double down on stupid with.


Either drop it or take your comments to someone who cares. I don't give a shit about what you say about me.

Safety
07-24-2015, 06:54 PM
Either drop it or take your comments to someone who cares.

Of course you want the matter dropped, it was a shitty thing to say. However, it isn't up to you to moderate my comments.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 07:18 PM
Of course you want the matter dropped, it was a $#@!ty thing to say. However, it isn't up to you to moderate my comments.


Again, your opinion of me is of no consequence. You can complain to whom ever you want. I'm really don't give a shit. Got it?

Safety
07-24-2015, 07:20 PM
Again, your opinion of me is of no consequence. You can complain to whom ever you want. I'm really don't give a shit. Got it?
No doubt, you have alluded to that for the past 5 posts. Somehow you think if you keep telling yourself that, it will come true.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 07:23 PM
No doubt, you have alluded to that for the past 5 posts. Somehow you think if you keep telling yourself that, it will come true.


What are you rambling about now?

If you don't like the comments I post, complain to someone who cares, because I don't. Ok?

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 09:51 PM
You certainly are Canadian and really should butt out of American issues.

But I didn't have to say it because I knew that you knew my position on that.

I know it's really because you can't hold a debate, but sure, let's go with I'm Canadian.

PolWatch
07-24-2015, 09:53 PM
I know it's really because you can't hold a debate, but sure, let's go with I'm Canadian.

Well, I didn't want to mention it, but you are a Canadian female too. Makes you twice as scary! :wink:

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 09:53 PM
No. It was completely called for. We need to be more selective who we let live here. If they don't understand the principles under which this nation was founded, stay out.

I understand just fine. You can't form a debate about what I posted so you resort to name calling. Again, typical.

I will immigrate where the fuck I want to. Put up or shut up.

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 09:57 PM
Well, I didn't want to mention it, but you are a Canadian female too. Makes you twice as scary! :wink:

A Liberal (registered), Jewish, Canadian Female. Quadruple threat. Heads exploding everywhere.

Anyways... I agree with the comments made by Rick Perry. I sincerely hope that after the first debate people realize Trump is a joke and look to the other candidates for a serious contender. I'm not sure why 'conservatives' have a problem with admitting Trump is bad for the party.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 09:59 PM
I understand just fine. You can't form a debate about what I posted so you resort to name calling. Again, typical.

I will immigrate where the $#@! I want to. Put up or shut up.

put up or shut up? Put up what? That made no. Sense at all.

And actually, one will not immigrate where they want to. They will immigrate where they are allowed to.

And I say it's time we become a bit more selective about who we allow to immigrate to America.

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 10:01 PM
put up or shut up? Put up what? That made no. Sense at all.

And actually, one will not immigrate where they want to. They will immigrate where they are allowed to.

And I say it's time we become a bit more selective about who we allow to immigrate to America.

Yeah, I'm obviously a bad candidate because I'm a liberal. Doesn't matter if I'm educated or an asset to the country, just keep those fucking liberals out, am I right?

Get back on topic. Nobody cares about your views on me, including me. The issue is Trump making conservatives look foolish, something I think you might know a little about.

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 10:06 PM
Yeah, I'm obviously a bad candidate because I'm a liberal. Doesn't matter if I'm educated or an asset to the country, just keep those $#@!ing liberals out, am I right?

Get back on topic. Nobody cares about your views on me, including me. The issue is Trump making conservatives look foolish, something I think you might know a little about.


You are way too thin skinned. I hope you don't plan on living in an east coast big city. They'll drive you crazy.

Adelaide
07-24-2015, 10:08 PM
You are way too thin skinned. I hope you don't plan on living in an east coast big city. They'll drive you crazy.

Yeah, I will cry myself to sleep tonight.

Do you have nothing to say about Trump/the topic? Seems to be the case. Can't debate/discuss a topic or what?

Tahuyaman
07-24-2015, 10:15 PM
Yeah, I will cry myself to sleep tonight.

Do you have nothing to say about Trump/the topic? Seems to be the case. Can't debate/discuss a topic or what?

I've said a lot of stuff about Trump. Pages and pages of stuff. Look up my history on the subject. It's not that hard.

Mac-7
07-25-2015, 07:46 AM
I know it's really because you can't hold a debate, but sure,

let's go with I'm Canadian.

You brought it up and I merely responded.

Bo-4
07-25-2015, 08:31 AM
Not even 40%.

More truthiness Mac? Guess you need a second opinion.

This one says 42-47. Good luck! :)

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/gop-2016-win-will-need-more-40-percent-latino-vote-n394006

PS: Tell Trump to keep talking. 80% of Hispanics hate his guts.

Private Pickle
07-25-2015, 08:33 AM
Just In

Factoid ~ Laredo, Texas is 96% Hispanic


DONALD TRUMP HEADING TO TEXAS BORDER

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/21/exclusive-details-donald-trump-heading-to-texas-border/

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/politics/donald-trump-border-patrol-visit/

http://www.ibtimes.com/texas-mexico-immigration-2015-donald-trump-visit-border-laredo-2019705


Breitbart Texas has learned that 2016 Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump is heading to the Texas-Mexico border to get a firsthand look at the current border security situation. Trump is expected to meet with Border Patrol agents of the Laredo Sector.

“We look forward to giving Mr. Trump a boots on the ground perspective on the Laredo Sector of the Texas-Mexico Border,” said National Border Patrol Council, Local 2455 President Hector Garza. “Mr. Trump is expected to be in Laredo later in the week.”

Garza told Breitbart Texas that following the border tour, Trump will have a town hall style meeting where law enforcement officers will be invited to provide feedback on their perspective of the border situation.


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Bo-4
07-25-2015, 08:38 AM
oh, I see. Facts are meaningless to you. Got it.

Always the tried and true tactic for Tah, when beaten - declare victory and skedaddle!

:kick:

Tahuyaman
07-25-2015, 09:18 AM
Always the tried and true tactic for Tah, when beaten - declare victory and skedaddle!

:kick:


You wouldn't know a fact from a fat woman's #%%

Mac-7
07-25-2015, 10:03 AM
the bottom line, the Republucan is not going to need to get more than 30% of the Latino vote. What's going to be the most important factor is whether or not he, or she can motivate the Republican / conservative base. That's why Romney list. Conservatives stayed home. They refused to vote for a liberal posing as a conservative.

I totally agree with that.

maineman
07-25-2015, 10:37 AM
I totally agree with that.

the base never wins any election. their staying home might lose the election for their candidate, but even if the base shows up in force, the winner will always need to capture the middle of the curve and take votes away from the opponent at that boundary.

Mac-7
07-25-2015, 10:40 AM
the base never wins any election. their staying home might lose the election for their candidate, but even if the base shows up in force, the winner will always need to capture the middle of the curve and take votes away from the opponent at that boundary.

Romney captured the middle in 2012.

But lost his base voters.

maineman
07-25-2015, 10:42 AM
Romney captured the middle in 2012.



sez who?

got a link that would prove that?

Mac-7
07-25-2015, 10:54 AM
sez who?

got a link that would prove that?

I'm on my iPhone.

But I know I am right about that

maineman
07-25-2015, 02:07 PM
I'm on my iPhone.

But I know I am right about that

you always know you're right, even when you're not. odd, eh?

remember: the middle of the bell curve is NOT synonymous with "independent voters". It also contains moderate democrats and republicans.

Mac-7
07-25-2015, 02:09 PM
you always know you're right, even when you're not. odd, eh?

Yes, but I think I'm remembering this correctly.

maineman
07-25-2015, 02:17 PM
Romney won independents by 5%. As I said, that is not synonymous with "middle". Not every registered democrat or republican is a reliable member of their party's "base". Many registered democrats in Maine, for example, would routinely vote for Susan Collins or Olympia Snowe for the US Senate. THOSE two know how to win the middle.

Peter1469
07-25-2015, 02:18 PM
Conservatives were not Mitts base. That is why we stayed home.

Mac-7
07-25-2015, 02:34 PM
Romney won independents by 5%. As I said, that is not synonymous with "middle". Not every registered democrat or republican is a reliable member of their party's "base". Many registered democrats in Maine, for example, would routinely vote for Susan Collins or Olympia Snowe for the US Senate. THOSE two know how to win the middle.

Most independents consider themselves moderates.

They are the swing voters that Repubs are supposed to crawl on their knees for