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MMC
09-04-2011, 01:33 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/16/us-usa-budget-clinton-idUSTRE77F64T20110816

The United States may lose its chance to reshape the politics of the Middle East if budget pressures hobble U.S. support for democratic forces emerging in countries such as Egypt and Tunisia, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Tuesday.

"Budget documents are value statements: who we are as a people, what we stand for, what investments we're making in the future," Clinton said

The International Monetary Fund has estimated that the oil-importing countries of the Middle East and North Africa such as Egypt and Tunisia will need more than $160 billion over the next three years.
Obama has pledged to support democratic transitions in both countries, but to date has offered relatively limited assistance including a debt swap worth roughly $1 billion for Egypt and another $1 billion in loans and loan guarantees.

"This is exactly the kind of world that I want to see, where it's not just the United States and everybody is standing on the sidelines while we bear the costs, while we bear the sacrifice, while our men and women...lay down their lives for universal values," she said.

Clinton said the weak U.S. financial position had cast a pall over her efforts to expand U.S. engagement overseas to face security challenges ranging from the struggle against al Qaeda to the rise of China in the Pacific.....snip~

Well maybe if Clinton would get off those Socialistic values of all that is being done.....is about Universal Values. The World She Visions. She should take off those blinders. Yet she admits that the Weak US financial position has cast a pall over her Efforts to Expand US Engagement Overseas.

"What".....bombing Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Somalia is not enough engagement. Bombing Libya and wasting a Billion Dollars while we supply the majority of supplies and use our Tech to interfere in another Country's Civil War is not enough? Is Clinton that blind as to who is laying down the sacrifice and who is laying down the cost?

Who else is laying down all that cost in and sacrifice in Afghanistan? In Iraq? Sure the hell isnt the EU. The IMF wants a 160 Billion Dollars over the next 3 years just for Egypt and Tunisa. So why is Obama pledging our Support. There are 195 countries in the World. Where's that Global Economy and all that pitching in by the other 194????? Lets not forget Obama is also pledging to help out the EU. Our so called Allies. "What", was that saying of his. Oh Yeah, their Interests are tied to ours which makes such a National Security Issue. WTF wake up and smell the Coffee Democrats. The EU's interests are not the same as ours. They are not looking at things thru those Rose Colored glasses and have no problem shitting on us when it comes time. http://www.politicalhotwire.com/images/smilies/disturbed.png

Conley
09-04-2011, 08:30 AM
Dang...that is ridiculous. Where does Hillary think this money is going to come from? Please. How about letting private business or other countries inject the money if they need it so bad? We the tax payers don't have any more to spend.

I didn't realize things had gotten so bad in Egypt that they are now oil importers. How about their Arab brothers help them out with a discount on the black gold? Oh right, that'll never happen. >:D

MMC
09-05-2011, 11:18 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Hillary-Clinton-Obama-2012/2011/08/30/id/409193?s=al&promo_code=CF22-1

Will Hillary Clinton challenge Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination?
She says no, that she never wants to run for office again. But the pressure is growing on her to change her mind as Obama continues to slide in the polls — and as the left bloc of the party and Latino and black voters become more vocal in their disapproval of the president.

Conservative commentator S.E. Cupp took it one step further in her column last week in the New York Daily News. “She'd be tough and liberal,” wrote Cupp. “But far more importantly, she'd be effective. She'd be focused. Whether or not she got signature legislation through the Congress, she'd get the country back on the right track.”

Pollster Pat Caddell, who was working for President Jimmy Carter when Ted Kennedy tried to unseat Carter in 1980, said a challenge will become much more likely if the GOP wins the New York congressional seat formerly held by Anthony Weiner in a Sept. 13 special election.
“That seat is the darkest blue Democrat you can be,” he said, adding that a lot of Jewish voters there are unhappy with the Obama administration’s policies on Israel. “If the Democrats lost that seat on the 13th, that’s the kind of earthquake that would start shaking up people,” Caddell told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto on Tuesday.

If Clinton does decide to run, the battle within the Democratic Party would almost certainly be even more bitterly fought than it was four years ago. During that campaign, Clinton called Obama “irresponsible and naïve,” and issued a damning campaign advertisement questioning whether he would be the right person to answer a 3 a.m. phone call alerting him to an international crisis.....snip~


Looks like the pressure is on to have Hillary run agaisnt Obama.....many have pointed out, on both sides of the aisle that when a Post-War president's numbers slip and fall below 40%, they ended up having primary challenges that fatally weakened them and their party. Althought they did say as Obama continues to fall then they would expect Fiengold to run as he would state and show he is left of Obama and not so wishy washy.

Mister D
09-05-2011, 11:25 AM
Interesting comments by Caddell about ze Joows. As for the Hispanics, they are turning on BO because he flopped on comprehensive immigration reform amnesty. Now he's trying to make up for that in a blatant attempt to play racial politics. That's where we are heading...

MMC
09-05-2011, 11:28 AM
Interesting comments by Caddell about ze Joows. As for the Hispanics, they are turning on BO because he flopped on comprehensive immigration reform amnesty. Now he's trying to make up for that in a blatant attempt to play racial politics. That's where we are heading...


Right.....truthfully there would be no Difference with Clinton they both are for the same thing. Hillary would have pushed healthcare. But she would also know how to put pressure on even top Republicans.

Mister D
09-05-2011, 06:28 PM
Interesting comments by Caddell about ze Joows. As for the Hispanics, they are turning on BO because he flopped on comprehensive immigration reform amnesty. Now he's trying to make up for that in a blatant attempt to play racial politics. That's where we are heading...


Right.....truthfully there would be no Difference with Clinton they both are for the same thing. Hillary would have pushed healthcare. But she would also know how to put pressure on even top Republicans.


Yeah, but Hillary had a great deal of baggage with healthcare. I'm not sure she could have pulled it off.

MMC
09-05-2011, 07:03 PM
Interesting comments by Caddell about ze Joows. As for the Hispanics, they are turning on BO because he flopped on comprehensive immigration reform amnesty. Now he's trying to make up for that in a blatant attempt to play racial politics. That's where we are heading...


Right.....truthfully there would be no Difference with Clinton they both are for the same thing. Hillary would have pushed healthcare. But she would also know how to put pressure on even top Republicans.


Yeah, but Hillary had a great deal of baggage with healthcare. I'm not sure she could have pulled it off.


I would think she would have got it with their fillibuster proof Senate. Technically her platform was identical to Obama's except for the mandated piece. Plus Repubs seem to cave to her.

Mister D
09-05-2011, 07:50 PM
Interesting comments by Caddell about ze Joows. As for the Hispanics, they are turning on BO because he flopped on comprehensive immigration reform amnesty. Now he's trying to make up for that in a blatant attempt to play racial politics. That's where we are heading...


Right.....truthfully there would be no Difference with Clinton they both are for the same thing. Hillary would have pushed healthcare. But she would also know how to put pressure on even top Republicans.


Yeah, but Hillary had a great deal of baggage with healthcare. I'm not sure she could have pulled it off.


I would think she would have got it with their fillibuster proof Senate. Technically her platform was identical to Obama's except for the mandated piece. Plus Repubs seem to cave to her.


Possibly. I just think her previous failure would hang around her neck like an albatross.

Conley
09-06-2011, 12:39 PM
That whole situation was so bizarre, having her being the sponsor. What did the Dems honestly think was going to happen? She could have had the perfect plan and she still would have been blasted since she had no credentials (being the wife of the Prez doesn't count!)

Having said that it was long ago enough that I think she could have done ok. She could point to her record as Senator (even though I'm not sure she ever did anything, really) and other work since that time.

Mister D
09-06-2011, 12:44 PM
I guess it's all academic now.

MMC
09-06-2011, 12:55 PM
I guess it's all academic now.


Not if we can push Obama's Poll numbers down to 35%.....then I am sure the Dems will run someone against him. Like the Ap said.....when the base becomes discontent and is talking and pressuring one who says they don't want power.(lie) Then there must be something to it. Especially if those black and latin numbers keeping taking a dive.

Mister D
09-06-2011, 01:12 PM
I mean it's already happened. We are just discussing what might have happened. On the plus side, I don;t thin sdhe could salvage it if it is rejected in the courts.