On pudding and BMT's...

[Captain Obvious]

I was thinking of starting a thread on this a few weeks back but it left my mind, but after seeing this Jarad thing going down now, well - here it is.

Think about how much we idolize people we have no, absolutely none, zilch, no fucking idea who they are.

Think of it, who we are idolizing are the fictional characterization of somebody who basically doesn't exist. Somebody's artwork that isn't real.

Bill Cosby for example, 5 or 10 years ago would you believe that he was basically drugging and raping women? Or Jared, would you believe that he was child sex trafficking and porning?

Probably not, now ask yourself this - of the people you admire, idolize or whatever - do you really know them, or do you just know the character they play on TV?

Somebody posted a thread a way while back that said "who is your hero" or something like that and I pretty much declined to answer. It's too cop-out easy to say "my dad" or mom, wife, whatever so I didn't answer it because I really don't know that many people and maybe that's not enough for me to want to categorize anyone as a hero. And I'm not going to hero-ize someone I don't know.

That is all

[southwest88]

Yah, I remember the flap about Rock Hudson, when he came out of the closet. Thinking back, I remember him & Doris Day being in a series of fairly harmless movie comedies. My only impression of him was that he was trying too hard somehow - & maybe too pretty, but that may be colored by his outing. As I recall, he allegedly walked out of a screening of 2001, upset that it wasn't a typical movie, with dialog & presumably a conventional leading man & woman.

The thing to keep in mind about Show Biz people - is that they're in Show Biz. They're not typically your pal, your confidant, or any of that stuff. They're meant to attract your attention & hold it for the duration of the TV program, movie, play, song, commercial - whatever it is. That's it.

Yah, celebrity seems to be deadly to some people, who react to it like moths to an open flame. It can't be helped, strength of character is hard to discern without stress. & the stress of overnight success - or anything like it - seems to shred some people, uplift others, & have no discernable effect on a small minority.

[exotix]

I hear 'bad lip reading' works ... LOL

[sachem]

I was thinking of starting a thread on this a few weeks back but it left my mind, but after seeing this Jarad thing going down now, well - here it is.

Think about how much we idolize people we have no, absolutely none, zilch, no fucking idea who they are.

Think of it, who we are idolizing are the fictional characterization of somebody who basically doesn't exist. Somebody's artwork that isn't real.

Bill Cosby for example, 5 or 10 years ago would you believe that he was basically drugging and raping women? Or Jared, would you believe that he was child sex trafficking and porning?

Probably not, now ask yourself this - of the people you admire, idolize or whatever - do you really know them, or do you just know the character they play on TV?

Somebody posted a thread a way while back that said "who is your hero" or something like that and I pretty much declined to answer. It's too cop-out easy to say "my dad" or mom, wife, whatever so I didn't answer it because I really don't know that many people and maybe that's not enough for me to want to categorize anyone as a hero. And I'm not going to hero-ize someone I don't know.

That is allTrue enough. I idolize you and I don't even know you, really.

[Captain Obvious]

True enough. I idolize you and I don't even know you, really.

Buy a tent recently?

[Redrose]

I agree with the OP. I'm guilty of doing that. I was crazy about Paul Newman as a teen, I though he walked on water. Later in life I learned he was a major SOB, and was down right rude to his fans. I ran into him in a NYC restaurant in the '80's, three feet away, and knew not to ask him for an autograph.

In old Hollywood, the major studios did a very good job in covering up anything scandelous about their big stars. The fans only saw and read what the studios allowed. They were in love with a make believe image.

In 1985 Rock Hudson came out and announced he had AIDS, and was gay. I never knew that he was gay, I thought he was so sexy in those old Doris Day films, a big handsome sexy man. Now with this new revelation that image was gone forever. Then when Linda Evans freaked out about her kissing scenes in "Dynasty" with Hudson, people were angry with him for kissing her and not being honest about his deadly condition. Back then AIDS was a new big mystery and very freightening, people had many misunderstandings about the new disease.

I lost all respect for Hudson when he was asked about possibly infecting Evans by kissing her, his reply "I can't worry about that".