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Captain Obvious
08-22-2015, 03:11 PM
Do you support it? I know, almost an unfair question, nobody really knows what's in it but we do know that there is shaky at best Democratic support for it and wholesale GOP opposition to it. And we do know that teh O'bama administration is currently on a full-court press to sell this thing to democrats for support, so really - is that all we need to know about it?

If democrats need to be hard-pressed to support it, how good can it be?

I also heard that dude from NY, Jewish guy who teh O'bama lobbied hard for support suggest that he's supporting it simply because it's a "this deal or none", that Iran is unlikely to renegotiate.

The whole things stinks on ice from my vantage point.

What do you think?

hanger4
08-22-2015, 04:10 PM
Do you support it? I know, almost an unfair question, nobody really knows what's in it but we do know that there is shaky at best Democratic support for it and wholesale GOP opposition to it. And we do know that teh O'bama administration is currently on a full-court press to sell this thing to democrats for support, so really - is that all we need to know about it?

If democrats need to be hard-pressed to support it, how good can it be?

I also heard that dude from NY, Jewish guy who teh O'bama lobbied hard for support suggest that he's supporting it simply because it's a "this deal or none", that Iran is unlikely to renegotiate.

The whole things stinks on ice from my vantage point.

What do you think?

Just like the ACA, you got to vote for it to find out what's in it and we already know Obama lied through his eye teeth to sell it to the public. Right now I wouldn't trust Obama if he told me the ocean was salty.

exotix
08-22-2015, 04:19 PM
No sweat ... the deal is, if they gets out of line ... We Bomb Bomb Bomb ... Bomb Bomb Iran ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb-VkYJRbW8

Peter1469
08-22-2015, 05:22 PM
I will answer after I get to read it. Along with the secret parts.

Private Pickle
08-22-2015, 05:42 PM
I will answer after I get to read it. Along with the secret parts.

This is why I don't support it.

Ethereal
08-22-2015, 09:18 PM
I don't know whether to support it or not. If it is a genuine attempt to improve relations with Iran, then I'm all for it, but it might be a ruse that is designed to trap Iran somehow and to justify a war with them.

Captain Obvious
08-22-2015, 09:27 PM
I don't know whether to support it or not. If it is a genuine attempt to improve relations with Iran, then I'm all for it, but it might be a ruse that is designed to trap Iran somehow and to justify a war with them.

Teh O'bama?

Really?

Common
08-22-2015, 09:32 PM
Ive been trying to find out some meat a patatos of the deal but theres too much misinfo out there at this point. I dont know if im for it or not at this point because I dont know enough a bout it.

I do know one thing, I do not trust Iran to abide by any treaty

Ethereal
08-22-2015, 09:40 PM
Teh O'bama?

Really?

Obama has destroyed more Muslim countries than Bush did, so, yea, Teh O'bama.

Captain Obvious
08-22-2015, 09:43 PM
Obama has destroyed more Muslim countries than Bush did, so, yea, Teh O'bama.

I could almost agree except that GW was an "integrity" guy meaning that he stood his ground on where he stood if that makes sense. That's something that I admired the guy on. I just don't see that in teh O'bama.

Ask yourself - what's in it for him? Obama? Why set this shit up? He's a total establishment guy and a so far huge failure to the DNC, what's the point?

zelmo1234
08-22-2015, 09:45 PM
Obama, Kerry, and the religious leaders of Iran Support it? That tells me all that I need to know

Those that truly believe that appeasement works, and there is no evil in the world, I would suspect that they support it

Ethereal
08-22-2015, 10:02 PM
The US government is the aggressor, and has been for decades, so "appeasement" doesn't really enter into it.

Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia, a US ally whose fingerprint was all over 9/11, is funneling money and arms to AQ and ISIS, yet Republicans apparently cannot be bothered with this minor detail. They're too busy bullying and attacking Iran for no reason.

Ransom
08-23-2015, 06:52 AM
Ethereal. Provide foundation. Links to your claims. You :director: off but provide no documentation.

Tahuyaman
08-23-2015, 09:23 AM
So, in accordance with this supposed diplomatic breakthrough, Iran will be inspecting themselves when it comes to their suspected weapons development program.....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/08/19/the-latest-iran-revelation-is-utterly-humiliating/


Iran, in an unusual arrangement, will be allowed to use its own experts to inspect a site it allegedly used to develop nuclear arms under a secret agreement with the U.N. agency that normally carries out such work, according to a document seen by The Associated Press.

Tahuyaman
08-23-2015, 09:40 AM
Virtually every day something new and inconceivably dumb is exposed about this deal.

exotix
08-23-2015, 10:40 AM
I could almost agree except that GW was an "integrity" guy meaning that he stood his ground on where he stood if that makes sense.
That's something that I admired the guy on.

I just don't see that in teh O'bama.

Ask yourself - what's in it for him? Obama? Why set this $#@! up? He's a total establishment guy and a so far huge failure to the DNC, what's the point?http://i59.tinypic.com/516kn5.gif



How Bush Let Iran Go Nuclear

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/21/opinion/how-bush-let-iran-go-nuclear.html?_r=0


Timeline on Iran’s Nuclear Program

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/11/20/world/middleeast/Iran-nuclear-timeline.html#/#time243_10809



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