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Cigar
08-24-2015, 11:28 AM
http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2015-08-21-donald-trump-alabama-rally-reuters-640-668x501.jpg

...As our David Cay Johnston wrote (http://www.nationalmemo.com/donald-trump-man-of-war/), Donald Trump’s campaign has become a public service announcement — revealing how a conservative base nurtured on resentment and false promises is falling for a candidate who feeds them the shrillest and most unconstitutional policies imaginable.


1. They let Trump become Trump.
Trump’s birtherism should have disqualified him from public life. Instead, his embrace of a lunatic conspiracy theory vaulted him to the forefront of conservatism. Mitt Romney pleaded for Trump’s endorsement and Fox News made him a staple of right-wing discourse.

...

2. They’re opposing peace with the same dishonesty that led us into war.
The American politicians and pundits opposing the nuclear deal reached with Iran by the United States—along with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Russia and China—nearly all have two things in common: They supported the Iraq war, and they opposed negotiating with Iran in the first place.

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3. They’re paralyzed by irrational promises.
Senator Ted Cruz demanded a government shutdown before Obamacare’s exchanges opened because, he said, if millions of Americans gained coverage, the law would never be repealed. Cruz failed, and while 15 million Americans now have insurance thanks to the law, he’s still demanding repeal.

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4. They’ve abandoned all pretense of serving anyone but the rich.
Nearly every Republican candidate for president is vowing to raise the retirement age.

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5. They refuse to learn from failure.
In six years, we’ve seen unprecedented advances in fairness for the sick, the LGBTQ community, and those who’ve come to our country or been brought here to pursue a better life. The deficit is now manageable and health care cost predictions have shrunk, despite (or more likely due to) the historic expansion of coverage. We’ve made leaps in green energy, the regulation of Wall Street, and favoring diplomacy over war in resolving conflict. And in every arena in which we’ve made progress, Republicans promise a complete reversal of that progress.


Conservatives see in Donald Trump the realization of their worst fears: Someone who can capitalize on a base to which they’ve fed delusions for decades, and expose their promises and policies for the divisive frauds that they truly are.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/5-reasons-republicans-cannot-be-trusted-with-power/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning%20Memo%20-%202015-08-24&utm_content=Final&utm_term=MM_frequency_six

Mac-7
08-24-2015, 11:30 AM
http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2015-08-21-donald-trump-alabama-rally-reuters-640-668x501.jpg

Republican leaders knew things could get bad if they didn’t pass immigration reform. But they probably didn’t imagine a rally with a GOP frontrunner in Alabama featuring neo-Confederate literature (http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/21/3694178/the-absolute-insanity-of-donald-trumps-big-alabama-pep-rally-in-17-tweets/), openly racist attendees (http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/08/its-just-a-total-coincidence-that-racists-and-conservatives-really-like-trumps-anti-immigrant-crusade.html), and at least one shout of “white power (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/white-power-trumps-alabama-pep-rally-brings-out-folks-who-want-to-shoot-illegals-at-the-border/)” broadcast live on all three cable news networks.

Now they’re beginning to see the mess they’re in.


“If, after November 2016, there are autopsies of Republican presidential hopes, political coroners will stress the immigration-related rhetoric of August 2015,” said occasional voice of conservative sanity George F. Will (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422916/donald-trump-immigration-deportation-republicans).


As our David Cay Johnston wrote (http://www.nationalmemo.com/donald-trump-man-of-war/), Donald Trump’s campaign has become a public service announcement — revealing how a conservative base nurtured on resentment and false promises is falling for a candidate who feeds them the shrillest and most unconstitutional policies imaginable.


1. They let Trump become Trump.
Trump’s birtherism should have disqualified him from public life. Instead, his embrace of a lunatic conspiracy theory vaulted him to the forefront of conservatism. Mitt Romney pleaded for Trump’s endorsement and Fox News made him a staple of right-wing discourse.


For decades the GOP base has been offered scapegoats to blame for the demise of the middle class, concealing the true cause — namely, the enactment of conservative policies. “Welfare queens” have faded and now the threat is people who risked their lives to come to America to pick your fruit. The thrill of having someone weak and safe to blame is contagious, providing the perfect opportunity for a huckster promising the defeat of all foreign enemies, spouting incoherent bluster and sporting a dopey hat.


2. They’re opposing peace with the same dishonesty that led us into war.
The American politicians and pundits opposing the nuclear deal reached with Iran by the United States—along with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Russia and China—nearly all have two things in common: They supported the Iraq war, and they opposed negotiating with Iran in the first place.


All of the arguments that the right is making against the agreement — from the inflated 24-day inspection canard (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/about-those-24-days) and the fiction that Iran will inspect itself (http://www.juancole.com/2015/08/inspect-nuclear-facilities.html) to the nonsensical promise of a better deal (http://www.nationalinterest.org/feature/debunked-why-5-criticisms-the-iran-deal-are-wrong-13559) — are easily debunked. And those arguments all lack the suggestion of any secret classified information of the kind that supposedly justified the Iraq invasion.


3. They’re paralyzed by irrational promises.
Senator Ted Cruz demanded a government shutdown before Obamacare’s exchanges opened because, he said, if millions of Americans gained coverage, the law would never be repealed. Cruz failed, and while 15 million Americans now have insurance thanks to the law, he’s still demanding repeal.


Cruz’s primary opponents Gov. Scott Walker and Sen. Marco Rubio recognize that running on the promise of stripping something valuable from a block of voters larger than that which will likely decide the election isn’t so smart. So they’ve released their own plans with the exact flaws that they revile in Obamacare.


4. They’ve abandoned all pretense of serving anyone but the rich.
Nearly every Republican candidate for president is vowing to raise the retirement age.


“For the record, these proposals would be really bad public policy — a harsh blow to Americans in the bottom half (http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/subtleties-of-life-expectancy-ctd/) of the income distribution, who depend on Social Security, often have jobs that involve manual labor, and have not, in fact, seen a big rise in life expectancy,” The New York Times‘ Paul Krugman wrote (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/17/opinion/republicans-against-retirement.html?rref=collection%2Fcolumn%2Fpaul-krugman&action=click&contentCollection=opinion&region=stream&module=stream_unit&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=collection&_r=0).


Cuts to the public retirement guarantee are especially harmful to women (http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_bills/2015/08/gop_candidates_on_social_security_they_re_not_just _gimmes_to_the_rich_they.html) — who live longer, are more likely to leave the workforce to care for family members, and inevitably are more dependent on Social Security.


5. They refuse to learn from failure.
In six years, we’ve seen unprecedented advances in fairness for the sick, the LGBTQ community, and those who’ve come to our country or been brought here to pursue a better life. The deficit is now manageable and health care cost predictions have shrunk, despite (or more likely due to) the historic expansion of coverage. We’ve made leaps in green energy, the regulation of Wall Street, and favoring diplomacy over war in resolving conflict. And in every arena in which we’ve made progress, Republicans promise a complete reversal of that progress.


Conservatives see in Donald Trump the realization of their worst fears: Someone who can capitalize on a base to which they’ve fed delusions for decades, and expose their promises and policies for the divisive frauds that they truly are.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/5-reasons-republicans-cannot-be-trusted-with-power/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning Memo - 2015-08-24&utm_content=Final&utm_term=MM_frequency_six


Members are prohibited from posting cut and paste propaganda longer than a link and 3 paragraphs.

Cigar
08-24-2015, 11:48 AM
Members are prohibited from posting cut and paste propaganda longer than a link and 3 paragraphs.

That's why I only posted snips of each Reason ... :laugh:

You'd know that if you read it. :grin:

Mac-7
08-24-2015, 11:58 AM
That's why I only posted snips of each Reason ... :laugh:

You'd know that if you read it. :grin:

It's still outside the rules.

But I didn't report you so I guess youre home free.

You owe me one

Cigar
08-24-2015, 12:03 PM
It's still outside the rules.

But I didn't report you so I guess youre home free.

You owe me one

If it bothers anyone let them change it ...

IMO there's no point in showing 2 of 5 reasons when 9 out of 10 people never read the links anyway.

So I don't care ...

Chris
08-24-2015, 12:06 PM
I don't trust Republicans with power. Hell, I don't trust Democrats with power. But then I don't trust anyone with power. Power corrupts, absolutely.

Cigar
08-24-2015, 12:10 PM
I don't trust Republicans with power. Hell, I don't trust Democrats with power. But then I don't trust anyone with power. Power corrupts, absolutely.

The GOP has The Power of both Chambers ... how's that working for them?

Mac-7
08-24-2015, 12:12 PM
If it bothers anyone let them change it ...

IMO there's no point in showing 2 of 5 reasons when 9 out of 10 people never read the links anyway.

So I don't care ...

Maybe if you tried posting your own thoughts once in a while - assuming you have any - instead of the usual long and boring cut and paste...

Chris
08-24-2015, 12:14 PM
The GOP has The Power of both Chambers ... how's that working for them?

I hope it's not. How's Obama doing as Prez, how's that working for him? They seem to obstruct each other. Good.

Cigar
08-24-2015, 12:17 PM
Maybe if you tried posting your own thoughts once in a while - assuming you have any - instead of the usual long and boring cut and paste...

I do..Insults and Disrespect (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/49407-Insults-and-Disrespect)

.. but it immediately gets Trolled by people like you.

Cigar
08-24-2015, 12:23 PM
I hope it's not. How's Obama doing as Prez, how's that working for him? They seem to obstruct each other. Good.


Undefeated as King :grin: and legendary legislation that will last longer than you or me.

Mac-7
08-24-2015, 12:26 PM
I do..Insults and Disrespect (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/49407-Insults-and-Disrespect)

.. but it immediately gets Trolled by people like you.

Im glade you made the effort.

i don't mind arguing with real people.

But wacko opinions you cut and past from who knows where are not my cup of tea.

Chris
08-24-2015, 01:07 PM
Undefeated as King :grin: and legendary legislation that will last longer than you or me.

Obama is no MLK.

Chris
08-24-2015, 01:08 PM
That's why I only posted snips of each Reason ... :laugh:

You'd know that if you read it. :grin:


It's still outside the rules.

But I didn't report you so I guess youre home free.

You owe me one


If it bothers anyone let them change it ...

IMO there's no point in showing 2 of 5 reasons when 9 out of 10 people never read the links anyway.

So I don't care ...


Maybe if you tried posting your own thoughts once in a while - assuming you have any - instead of the usual long and boring cut and paste...


I do..Insults and Disrespect (http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/49407-Insults-and-Disrespect)

.. but it immediately gets Trolled by people like you.


Im glade you made the effort.

i don't mind arguing with real people.

But wacko opinions you cut and past from who knows where are not my cup of tea.



Could you two do the forum a favor an either get a room or put each other on ignore? Thanks!!

birddog
08-24-2015, 01:15 PM
Could you two do the forum a favor an either get a room or put each other on ignore? Thanks!!

Ah, don't worry about it. Cigar has difficulty expressing himself, and Mac-7 is "trying to herd cats." :smiley_ROFLMAO:

Safety
08-24-2015, 01:17 PM
Ah, don't worry about it. Cigar has difficulty expressing himself, and Mac-7 is "trying to herd cats." :smiley_ROFLMAO:

You going to let him borrow your birddog?

Cigar
08-24-2015, 01:25 PM
Could you two do the forum a favor an either get a room or put each other on ignore? Thanks!!

If you're Room is getting to crazy ... don't push him off on me, these are your babies so take responsibility.

birddog
08-24-2015, 01:31 PM
You going to let him borrow your birddog?

That dog is grown up now, but he doesn't usually bite unless you mess with his feed bowl.

Besides, he doesn't herd cats, he kills them!:laugh:

AeonPax
08-24-2015, 01:46 PM
<snip><unsnip> 9 out of 10 people never read the links anyway. <snip>
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Ain't that a fact.

Mac-7
08-24-2015, 02:43 PM
Could you two do the forum a favor an either get a room or put each other on ignore? Thanks!!

If I can't put you on ignore I won't put him on either.

Darmosiel
08-24-2015, 02:51 PM
http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2015-08-21-donald-trump-alabama-rally-reuters-640-668x501.jpg

...As our David Cay Johnston wrote (http://www.nationalmemo.com/donald-trump-man-of-war/), Donald Trump’s campaign has become a public service announcement — revealing how a conservative base nurtured on resentment and false promises is falling for a candidate who feeds them the shrillest and most unconstitutional policies imaginable.


1. They let Trump become Trump.
Trump’s birtherism should have disqualified him from public life. Instead, his embrace of a lunatic conspiracy theory vaulted him to the forefront of conservatism. Mitt Romney pleaded for Trump’s endorsement and Fox News made him a staple of right-wing discourse.

...

2. They’re opposing peace with the same dishonesty that led us into war.
The American politicians and pundits opposing the nuclear deal reached with Iran by the United States—along with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Russia and China—nearly all have two things in common: They supported the Iraq war, and they opposed negotiating with Iran in the first place.

...

3. They’re paralyzed by irrational promises.
Senator Ted Cruz demanded a government shutdown before Obamacare’s exchanges opened because, he said, if millions of Americans gained coverage, the law would never be repealed. Cruz failed, and while 15 million Americans now have insurance thanks to the law, he’s still demanding repeal.

...

4. They’ve abandoned all pretense of serving anyone but the rich.
Nearly every Republican candidate for president is vowing to raise the retirement age.

...

5. They refuse to learn from failure.
In six years, we’ve seen unprecedented advances in fairness for the sick, the LGBTQ community, and those who’ve come to our country or been brought here to pursue a better life. The deficit is now manageable and health care cost predictions have shrunk, despite (or more likely due to) the historic expansion of coverage. We’ve made leaps in green energy, the regulation of Wall Street, and favoring diplomacy over war in resolving conflict. And in every arena in which we’ve made progress, Republicans promise a complete reversal of that progress.


Conservatives see in Donald Trump the realization of their worst fears: Someone who can capitalize on a base to which they’ve fed delusions for decades, and expose their promises and policies for the divisive frauds that they truly are.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/5-reasons-republicans-cannot-be-trusted-with-power/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Morning Memo - 2015-08-24&utm_content=Final&utm_term=MM_frequency_six

*thumbsup* There's lots more but that about covers the basics.

Chris
08-24-2015, 02:55 PM
If I can't put you on ignore I won't put him on either.

Then get a room. By yourself, since he stopped.

Mac-7
08-24-2015, 02:57 PM
Then get a room. By yourself, since he stopped.

Is that an official order?

Safety
08-24-2015, 03:19 PM
Is that an official order?

:rofl:

Chris
08-24-2015, 03:22 PM
Is that an official order?

It's a joke, mac, telling people ramming heads to get a room, lighten up--a suggestion, to lighten up, not an order. Holiday Inn is lowering prices today, I hear tell.