46% say Hillary should suspend her campaign

[Peter1469]

46% say (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/should_hillary_clinton_suspend_her_campaign) Hillary should suspend her campaign.

Rasmussen finds that even 1 in 4 democrats favor Hillary suspending her campaign. National security issues and the trust factor is killing her campaign.


Growing national security questions about Hillary Clinton’s use of a private e-mail server during her time as secretary of State are drowning out much of her message as a presidential candidate and causing many of her fellow Democrats to worry about the future of her campaign. Is it time for Clinton to put her campaign on temporary hold?

Voters are almost evenly divided on that question: the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 46% of Likely U.S. Voters believe Clinton should suspend her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination until all of the legal questions about her use of the private e-mail server are resolved. Nearly as many (44%) disagree. Nine percent (9%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/questions/pt_survey_questions/august_2015/questions_hillary_clinton_drop_out_august_23_24_20 15).)


Even one-in-four Democrats (24%) agree that the front-runner for their party’s nomination should suspend her campaign for the time being. But that compares to 73% of Republicans and 46% of voters not affiliated with either major party.

[whatukno]

Yeah, I think she should just drop out myself. Too many skeletons in her closet, too much bad ink, even if it's made up bullshit, it still has unfavorably tainted her as a viable candidate.

[Mark III]

even if it's made up bull$#@!, it still has unfavorably tainted her as a viable candidate.

So now we should let candidates be run out of political campaigns by "made up bullshit" ?

What we should do is let the investigation take it's course without the constant media over hype of the story. We also need to see more Democrats stick up for her "innocence until proven guilty" , even if they prefer Bernie Sanders.

[Peter1469]

Made up? :shocked:

We got a true boot-lick here. :smiley:

[whatukno]

So now we should let candidates be run out of political campaigns by "made up bullshit" ?

What we should do is let the investigation take it's course without the constant media over hype of the story. We also need to see more Democrats stick up for her "innocence until proven guilty" , even if they prefer Bernie Sanders.

The problem with the Right is that they believe every piece of made up bullshit that comes their way. And all it does is cause them to repeat lie after lie after lie till it's just accepted as fact.

It does taint a politicians political career.

[birddog]

Hillary is truly corrupt, incompetent, and brain damaged. You butt kissing libs just don't want to see it!:rollseyes:

[Private Pickle]

So now we should let candidates be run out of political campaigns by "made up bullshit" ?

What we should do is let the investigation take it's course without the constant media over hype of the story. We also need to see more Democrats stick up for her "innocence until proven guilty" , even if they prefer Bernie Sanders.

I bet you weren't singing that tune for Zimmerman.

[Private Pickle]

The problem with the Right is that they believe every piece of made up bullshit that comes their way. And all it does is cause them to repeat lie after lie after lie till it's just accepted as fact.

It does taint a politicians political career.

Kinda like there were no classified emails on her server?

[Ransom]

So now we should let candidates be run out of political campaigns by "made up bull$#@!" ?

What we should do is let the investigation take it's course without the constant media over hype of the story. We also need to see more Democrats stick up for her "innocence until proven guilty" , even if they prefer Bernie Sanders.

Wait a second, this has merit. This is so true in many respects, the panic a bit pre-mature, asking her to drop out for 'made up nonsense' is kneejerk and frankly unfair. I agree.

I'm just a wee bit... maybe even a little surprised by her supporters though......having to remind the Democrat tent of the innocent until proven guilty rule that you're calling for here. Like they showed the police officer in the Michael Brown incident, I'm talking the same innocent until proven guilty afforded George Zimmerman that nearly every one of you displayed. Is that the innocent until proven guilty you're speaking to here?

[Ransom]

Hillary is truly corrupt, incompetent, and brain damaged. You butt kissing libs just don't want to see it!:rollseyes:

Corrupt. But, competent enough to indeed get that butt kissed. Don't take much to herd sheep mind you, but remember, they're sheep. You only must be more competent.

[Ransom]

I bet you weren't singing that tune for Zimmerman.

Beat me to it. Kudos Sir

[Ransom]

The problem with the Right is that they believe every piece of made up bull$#@! that comes their way. And all it does is cause them to repeat lie after lie after lie till it's just accepted as fact.

It does taint a politicians political career.

Are we supposed to believe Hillary then? She's your Sec of State and running a server for email out of a closet in Colorado?

She is anything but fresh and your front burner denial is the fact that she's selling 4 more years.

[Adelaide]

She probably should, but she won't.

[Mark III]

Hillary is truly corrupt, incompetent, and brain damaged. You butt kissing libs just don't want to see it!:rollseyes:

Aren't you the white nationalist guy? I'm not sure your opinion carries a lot of weight.

[birddog]

Aren't you the white nationalist guy? I'm not sure your opinion carries a lot of weight.

I happen to be white with 1/16 Cherokee thrown in. I believe in America First. Why does my opinion carry less weight? :huh:

[hanger4]

The problem with the Right is that they believe every piece of made up bullshit that comes their way. And all it does is cause them to repeat lie after lie after lie till it's just accepted as fact.

It does taint a politicians political career.

What made up bullshit whatukno ?? What lies whatukno ?? Commit yourself.

[Peter1469]

Emails with top secret movement data on the Ambassador to Libya was on Hillary's server. She is toast politically (except for the boot-lickers) and should be in jail or put in a situation with Islamist on the warpath next to her position.

[Tahuyaman]

Emails with top secret movement data on the Ambassador to Libya was on Hillary's server. She is toast politically (except for the boot-lickers) and should be in jail or put in a situation with Islamist on the warpath next to her position.

I'm not so sure she is "toast" politically. She's survived several incidents of illegal activity from insider trading to fraudulent land deals. This may be just another one.

[TrueBlue]

And I strongly suspect that if those figures are correct, those in favor of her suspending her campaign also do not believe in nor are they in favor of the democratic process of a person being declared INNOCENT until proven guilty. How many times do these fools have to be reminded of the fact that she is not being accused of anything that was illegal as has been brought out in numerous reports. It has all been mere allegations. That is why Hillary will most certainly NOT QUIT or suspend her campaign. She has no reason to at all! None whatsoever. No court has convicted her of any wrong-doing, so why throw in the towel? That's not Hillary's style at all. She is a fighter and a WINNER!

Hillary deserves our Full Support since she has not been convicted of any wrong-doing and won't be!

A competent court of law would have to actually indict and then convict her of illegalities and wrong-doing, which would be very tough to do given that she has done nothing wrong plus the fact that plenty of other government officials have done the same thing. People may not like the way she went about doing things but that is hardly a reason to ask her to suspend her campaign, something only the right-wingers would be most happy for her to do. Won't happen though! She still TOPS her competitors in light of these nasty, egregious, and false accusations and she will sail through any hearings and emerge victorious to go on and Win the White House in 2016!!

[Green Arrow]

She should withdraw. Bernie, not Hillary, represents the ideals the Democratic Party claims to support. If they have any integrity left, she won't have to drop out, the whole party will just shift their support to Bernie.

[Peter1469]

Boot lick.... :shocked:
And I strongly suspect that if those figures are correct, those in favor of her suspending her campaign also do not believe in nor are they in favor of the democratic process of a person being declared INNOCENT until proven guilty. How many times do these fools have to be reminded of the fact that she is not being accused of anything that was illegal as has been brought out in numerous reports. It has all been mere allegations. That is why Hillary will most certainly NOT QUIT or suspend her campaign. She has no reason to at all! None whatsoever. No court has convicted her of any wrong-doing, so why throw in the towel? That's not Hillary's style at all. She is a fighter and a WINNER!

Hillary deserves our Full Support since she has not been convicted of any wrong-doing and won't be!

A competent court of law would have to actually indict and then convict her of illegalities and wrong-doing, which would be very tough to do given that she has done nothing wrong plus the fact that plenty of other government officials have done the same thing. People may not like the way she went about doing things but that is hardly a reason to ask her to suspend her campaign, something only the right-wingers would be most happy for her to do. Won't happen though! She still TOPS her competitors in light of these nasty, egregious, and false accusations and she will sail through any hearings and emerge victorious to go on and Win the White House in 2016!!

[hanger4]

And I strongly suspect that if those figures are correct, those in favor of her suspending her campaign also do not believe in nor are they in favor of the democratic process of a person being declared INNOCENT until proven guilty. How many times do these fools have to be reminded of the fact that she is not being accused of anything that was illegal as has been brought out in numerous reports. It has all been mere allegations. That is why Hillary will most certainly NOT QUIT or suspend her campaign. She has no reason to at all! None whatsoever. No court has convicted her of any wrong-doing, so why throw in the towel? That's not Hillary's style at all. She is a fighter and a WINNER!Hillary deserves our Full Support since she has not been convicted of any wrong-doing and won't be!A competent court of law would have to actually indict and then convict her of illegalities and wrong-doing, which would be very tough to do given that she has done nothing wrong plus the fact that plenty of other government officials have done the same thing. People may not like the way she went about doing things but that is hardly a reason to ask her to suspend her campaign, something only the right-wingers would be most happy for her to do. Won't happen though! She still TOPS her competitors in light of these nasty, egregious, and false accusations and she will sail through any hearings and emerge victorious to go on and Win the White House in 2016!!You didn't read the last link I gave you. Surprises me not.

[whatukno]

What made up bullshit whatukno ?? What lies whatukno ?? Commit yourself.


Kinda like there were no classified emails on her server?

Like Obama's trip to India cost 200 million a day and required 1/3 of the navy

Like Obama was born in Kenya and isn't a natural born US Citizen

Like ISIS is working with Mexican drug cartels training in Mexico.

[hanger4]

Like Obama's trip to India cost 200 million a day and required 1/3 of the navyLike Obama was born in Kenya and isn't a natural born US CitizenLike ISIS is working with Mexican drug cartels training in Mexico.Aaaaaaah this here thread am bout Hillary. Do try and keep up. :)

[whatukno]

Aaaaaaah this here thread am bout Hillary. Do try and keep up. :)

I know this, and if you read my post prior to that one, you would have realized that I said: "The problem with the Right is that they believe every piece of made up bull$#@! that comes their way. And all it does is cause them to repeat lie after lie after lie till it's just accepted as fact."



I didn't say every piece of made up bullshit only about Hillary, I said every piece of made up bullshit.

[hanger4]

I know this, and if you read my post prior to that one, you would have realized that I said: "The problem with the Right is that they believe every piece of made up bull$#@! that comes their way. And all it does is cause them to repeat lie after lie after lie till it's just accepted as fact."



I didn't say every piece of made up bullshit only about Hillary, I said every piece of made up bullshit.

But the thread's about Hillary and why are you ignoring this post ??


What made up bullshit whatukno ?? What lies whatukno ?? Commit yourself.

[whatukno]

But the thread's about Hillary and why are you ignoring this post ??

Ok, how about this whopper?

http://www.lightsoutusa.com/vsl/index.php?split=9

Hillary Clinton is getting from Obama much more than the keys to the oval office. She's inheriting the White House's biggest darkest secret... one that takes the cake for the betrayal of the century. Forget Benghazi, forget Obamacare. This is so dark, it had to be buried 10,000 feet deep under the Cheyenne Mountain.

If she can't get elected there will be no elections

Under the smokescreen of Ferguson, Baltimore and other attempts at racial baiting, the liberal elites are preparing something more devastating than anything Americas have ever seen.This disaster will lead to the total devastation of the US economy, and more -the destruction of the very fabric of this country and the loss of our most fundamental freedoms.Their agenda is simple: They want to transform America into their socialist utopia... where martial law replaces the constitution, and set up a police state where Christians and conservatives are being sent to concentration camps. And the liberal socialists rule with a iron fist.

[Green Arrow]

Ok, how about this whopper?

http://www.lightsoutusa.com/vsl/index.php?split=9

Hillary Clinton is getting from Obama much more than the keys to the oval office. She's inheriting the White House's biggest darkest secret... one that takes the cake for the betrayal of the century. Forget Benghazi, forget Obamacare. This is so dark, it had to be buried 10,000 feet deep under the Cheyenne Mountain.

If she can't get elected there will be no elections

Under the smokescreen of Ferguson, Baltimore and other attempts at racial baiting, the liberal elites are preparing something more devastating than anything Americas have ever seen.This disaster will lead to the total devastation of the US economy, and more -the destruction of the very fabric of this country and the loss of our most fundamental freedoms.Their agenda is simple: They want to transform America into their socialist utopia... where martial law replaces the constitution, and set up a police state where Christians and conservatives are being sent to concentration camps. And the liberal socialists rule with a iron fist.

You reap what you sow.

[hanger4]

Ok, how about this whopper?
http://www.lightsoutusa.com/vsl/index.php?split=9
Hillary Clinton is getting from Obama much more than the keys to the oval office. She's inheriting the White House's biggest darkest secret... one that takes the cake for the betrayal of the century. Forget Benghazi, forget Obamacare. This is so dark, it had to be buried 10,000 feet deep under the Cheyenne Mountain.
If she can't get elected there will be no elections
Under the smokescreen of Ferguson, Baltimore and other attempts at racial baiting, the liberal elites are preparing something more devastating than anything Americas have ever seen.This disaster will lead to the total devastation of the US economy, and more -the destruction of the very fabric of this country and the loss of our most fundamental freedoms.Their agenda is simple: They want to transform America into their socialist utopia... where martial law replaces the constitution, and set up a police state where Christians and conservatives are being sent to concentration camps. And the liberal socialists rule with a iron fist.

Gebuss whatukno you post trash from a wing nut. There are plenty of them on all sides of the political spectrum. Why don't we try something right out of Hillary's mouth;

"I did not send nor receive anything that was classified at the time,"

But we know no better. Hillary either lied or is grossly incompetent.

"The new stamps indicate that some of Clinton's emails from her time as the nation's most senior diplomat are filled with a type of information the U.S. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified from the get-go — regardless of whether it is already marked that way or not."

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

Which do you think whatukno, incompetent or lied ??

[whatukno]

Gebuss @whatukno (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1722) you post trash from a wing nut. There are plenty of them on all sides of the political spectrum. Why don't we try something right out of Hillary's mouth;


You wanted lies, so I gave you a big lie. And I assure you, that there are probably a lot of conservatives that believe that lie. What, did you want believable lies?

[hanger4]

You wanted lies, so I gave you a big lie. And I assure you, that there are probably a lot of conservatives that believe that lie. What, did you want believable lies?Fine whatukno have it your way, distract and deflect from the threads topic. Hillary support is waning mostly because of her lying about her personal email server kerfuffle and you ignore by turning a blind eye. Hear no evil see no evil.

[whatukno]

Fine whatukno have it your way, distract and deflect from the threads topic. Hillary support is waning mostly because of her lying about her personal email server kerfuffle and you ignore by turning a blind eye. Hear no evil see no evil.

To be frank, I'm planning on Sanders getting the nomination, I knew that Hillary has too many skeletons in her closet to be a serious candidate. If you read my post, I agreed she should bow out.

[Common Sense]

Sanders is the best candidate from a governance standpoint. However, Clinton is the best candidate from an electoral perspective.

Sanders will loose. Clinton could win. Dems would be prudent to go with the most electable. It's a horrible thing to say, but it's a reality.

[Green Arrow]

Sanders is the best candidate from a governance standpoint. However, Clinton is the best candidate from an electoral perspective.

Sanders will loose. Clinton could win. Dems would be prudent to go with the most electable. It's a horrible thing to say, but it's a reality.

Sanders has about the same chance of losing as Clinton had. To suggest he's guaranteed to lose is to be ignorant of how American politics works.

Both the Republican and Democratic candidate, regardless of who they are, is guaranteed between 45-48% of the vote. It's that remaining minority percentage that decides the election. I don't have the statistics, but I'm willing to bet most independents are younger people, and Sanders will win the young vote in a landslide.

[hanger4]

To be frank, I'm planning on Sanders getting the nomination, I knew that Hillary has too many skeletons in her closet to be a serious candidate. If you read my post, I agreed she should bow out.

I read your posts and I've asked you more than once to elabarate on your statement, "even if it's made up bullshit".

[whatukno]

I read your posts and I've asked you more than once to elabarate on your statement, "even if it's made up bullshit".


The whole Benghazi thing is made up bullshit. It's a witch hunt from the jump. The private email server, so what? The emails, weren't classified, even you pointed out that despite the fact that information contained in them should automatically deem them classified material, they WEREN'T classified officially. (Little thing about the law, if you don't already know, should be, is not a reason to prosecute someone.) They weren't, even if they were classified later, the ones that she received were not.

[Peter1469]

DOD satellite data on the movement of a US ambassador is classified at the highest levels....

[Ransom]

Sanders is the best candidate from a governance standpoint. However, Clinton is the best candidate from an electoral perspective.

Sanders will loose. Clinton could win. Dems would be prudent to go with the most electable. It's a horrible thing to say, but it's a reality.

Who in your opinion would Canada prefer to win the US Presidency today?

[Ransom]

The whole Benghazi thing is made up bull$#@!. It's a witch hunt from the jump. The private email server, so what? The emails, weren't classified, even you pointed out that despite the fact that information contained in them should automatically deem them classified material, they WEREN'T classified officially. (Little thing about the law, if you don't already know, should be, is not a reason to prosecute someone.) They weren't, even if they were classified later, the ones that she received were not.

And yet you believe because of all that nonsense and her still leading your Dem polls by wide margins..... she should drop out?

What kind of ka ka you selling?

Y'all don't want her gone, Sanders your safe port while the storm rages, once she wins the primary, y'all will herd on back. Flocks do that.

[Ransom]

Sanders has about the same chance of losing as Clinton had. To suggest he's guaranteed to lose is to be ignorant of how American politics works.

Both the Republican and Democratic candidate, regardless of who they are, is guaranteed between 45-48% of the vote. It's that remaining minority percentage that decides the election. I don't have the statistics, but I'm willing to bet most independents are younger people, and Sanders will win the young vote in a landslide.

He will win the most inexperienced, uninformed, young vote. Those more likely to be living off parents or government. I agree.

[whatukno]

And yet you believe because of all that nonsense and her still leading your Dem polls by wide margins..... she should drop out?

Even though it's bullshit complete and total malarkey, it's divisive. Conservatives will believe just about anything that paints a liberal politician in a bad light. Hell, some of these idiots still believe Obama was born in Kenya for crying out loud!


What kind of ka ka you selling?

Just reality.


Y'all don't want her gone, Sanders your safe port while the storm rages, once she wins the primary, y'all will herd on back. Flocks do that.

Really, she should just bow out, give Sanders her support, and just stop. Frankly she is hurting the brand by staying in.

[Ransom]

Even though it's bull$#@! complete and total malarkey, it's divisive. Conservatives will believe just about anything that paints a liberal politician in a bad light. Hell, some of these idiots still believe Obama was born in Kenya for crying out loud!

You want her then to drop out because of divisive politics? Sorry....I think that's a bunch of hooey.


Just reality.

Yeah. And bears use porcelain facilities and an anti-bacterial wash afterwards.


Really, she should just bow out, give Sanders her support, and just stop. Frankly she is hurting the brand by staying in.

Tell you what, when yer in there Nov '16 knocking the Chad out of the Hillary slot, give ol Ransom his just due. Pegged you early in the proper slot.

[hanger4]

The whole Benghazi thing is made up bullshit. It's a witch hunt from the jump. The private email server, so what? The emails, weren't classified, even you pointed out that despite the fact that information contained in them should automatically deem them classified material, they WEREN'T classified officially. (Little thing about the law, if you don't already know, should be, is not a reason to prosecute someone.) They weren't, even if they were classified later, the ones that she received were not.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

"Although it appears to be true for Clinton to say none of her emails included classification markings, a point she and her staff have emphasized, the government's standard nondisclosure agreement warns people authorized to handle classified information that it may not be marked that way and that it may come in oral form"

"The new stamps indicate that some of Clinton's emails from her time as the nation's most senior diplomat are filled with a type of information the U.S. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified from the get-go — regardless of whether it is already marked that way or not."


Officially marked is irrelevant.

[Ransom]

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0QQ0BW20150821

"Although it appears to be true for Clinton to say none of her emails included classification markings, a point she and her staff have emphasized, the government's standard nondisclosure agreement warns people authorized to handle classified information that it may not be marked that way and that it may come in oral form"

"The new stamps indicate that some of Clinton's emails from her time as the nation's most senior diplomat are filled with a type of information the U.S. government and the department's own regulations automatically deems classified from the get-go — regardless of whether it is already marked that way or not."


Officially marked is irrelevant.

Depends on what your definition of the word is, is.