Paul Ryan Dismantles ObamaCare

[Mainecoons]

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Let's see if our self-proclaimed math expert has the balls to watch this.

[MMC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ63lteml28

Here ya go MC.....is this the one you are talking about? :undecided:

[MMC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bib7kKBhqs&amp;feature=related

From his keynote address at the George W. Bush Presidential Center's Tax Policies for 4% Growth conference at the New-York Historical Society.

This guy is one of the Best and Brightest in the Republican Party.

I do like the fact that the only thing the left really can attack Ryan on.....is being a Christian. Anything else they got to say will be basically bullshit and the usual lies where they say they aren't lieing but in all actuality they are lieing. U know......What they Call PC. Thats the Media and the Demos and their Phuncky-Chicken. :grin:

[Mainecoons]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ63lteml28

Here ya go MC.....is this the one you are talking about? :undecided:

Yes, how did you do that?

[MMC]

Copy Url and Click Share on U-Tube.....see that little film roll Icon in the reply box. 3rd Symbol from the Right. Click that and paste in the box that comes up. Should auto post into reply box.

Make Sure the video ya wants to copy doesnt say embed in the URL. If it does then look for the same video and put that one up.

[Goldie Locks]

Gotta love the look on Ubama's face throughout this...

[Jack Fate]

Paul Ryan embodies the word "class act". The left can't find any dirt on Romney or Ryan, so we can expect more trash talk and lies from the left.

[MMC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u45IETzTqqQ&amp;feature=related

Here Ryan takes down Debbie-Wassermann Schultz while at the same timeproving that the numbers by Obama and the Left were a lie. He does this in less than 2 and half minutes on Fox news. Notice what he calls the Demos Tricks and Mirrors. Then note the Act passed by Pelosi at the end on the Doctors. :wink:

[roadmaster]

Paul Ryan embodies the word "class act". The left can't find any dirt on Romney or Ryan, so we can expect more trash talk and lies from the left.

You are correct, what they can't find they will make up. Then you will see Obamas voters taking it for the truth.

[bladimz]

Yes, how did you do that?
....Duuhhhhhhh...

[bladimz]

Paul Ryan embodies the word "class act". The left can't find any dirt on Romney or Ryan, so we can expect more trash talk and lies from the left.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/things-mitt-romney-paul-ryan/story?id=16978269#.UCaeY53N-8E

5 Things Mitt Doesn't Want You to Know About Paul Ryan

1. His budget plans include big cuts, and there's ample room for Democrats to continue with their "Romneyhood narrative." The nonpartisan Center on Budget and Policy Priorities estimates 62 percent of Ryan's cuts are to programs for the poor.

2. Ryan's budget proposals have included big changes to Medicare - including gradually replacing the program with a voucher program for private health care, and gradually raising the retirement age. That could scare older Americans, a crucial voting bloc.

3. He voted for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. While a lot of other Republicans did too, and it was proposed by the Bush administration, some have viewed it as a rejection of the conservative economic values Ryan and hard-line fiscal conservatives espouse.

4. He's easily pegged as Washington insider. He's been in Congress since 1999, and before that he worked as a congressional staffer. Congressional approval ratings are abysmally low- a recent CBS News/NY Times poll showed that only 12 percent of voters approve of the way Congress is doing its job.

5. This is both a pro and a con to Ryan, depending on who you ask, but he's notably further to the left on the issue of lesbian, bisexual, gay and transgender rights than the base of the party. He broke with a lot of his party to support the Employee Non-Discrimination Act in 2007. He explained his reasoning for the vote in this way: "They [his gay friends] didn't roll out of bed one morning and choose to be gay. That's who they are."

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[Jack Fate]

http://www.americanthinker.com/cartoons/assets_c/2012/08/RyanAntidote-thumb-700xauto-1734.jpg

[bladimz]

Antidote? Really??

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More like ..."Dope".

[Peter1469]

If 49% don't pay federal taxes, no reform is going to not increase taxes on them. Skin in the game.

[Mainecoons]

Uh Blad, the topic was Ryan's dismantling of ObamaCare. I don't suppose you would care to watch the video and listen to the ample factual numbers presented there and enlighten us as to how Ryan's analysis was correct.

I didn't think so. As usual, above your pay grade. Oh, and BTW genius, half the country pays no taxes at all. The particularly brackets your chart shows in red actually get checks (EITC) written to them using borrowed money. Keep that in mind.

[MMC]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/things-mitt-romney-paul-ryan/story?id=16978269#.UCaeY53N-8E


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"Say what"......already throwing up that Democratic Underground BS. Here let me help you with this one Blad.

http://media.oregonlive.com/politics_impact/photo/10354507-large.jpg

See this Democrat here Blad. This is the Demo who his Co-sponsoring the Ryan Plan.

WASHINGTON – In an unlikely partnership, Sen. Ron Wyden (http://gov.oregonlive.com/Congress/Ron-Wyden/)joined Rep. Paul Ryan (http://paulryan.house.gov/) on Wednesday in a plan for remodeling Medicare to ensure its long-term future.

The plan that Wyden, a Democrat from Oregon and Ryan, a Republican from Wisconsin, rolled out is a hybrid of earlier ideas, modified and repackaged in a way they hope will soften the partisan political turmoil.

He and Ryan propose maintaining Medicare in its traditional form until 2022, when seniors eligible for Medicare (those now under 55) would be able to choose Medicare or a private health care plan.

In a 13-page blueprint, Ryan and Wyden laid out the principles for an overhaul. There should be "no disruptions for those in or near retirement," the plan says. "Seniors should not be forced to reorganize their lives because of government's mistakes."

There are still many gaps and unanswered questions. Wyden and Ryan believe their plan would be cheaper, but they cannot say how much. They do promise that seniors would not be forced to make up the difference with higher premiums if costs continue to soar. Their plan requires Congress to find a solution.....snip~

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/12/democrat_ron_wyden_and_republi_1.html

Indeed I have been waiting for those leaning left to come with their Garbage. This time I will be taking an active Role in going after any of the Main-stream media that wants to put out that false perception. Not to mention any of the same type slanted politicans that think they will get to open their mouth in public and not take any heat.

Things are about to change for the left drastically. :laugh:

[Jack Fate]

Antidote? Really??

320

More like ..."Dope".

Graphs and colors are fun to look at and can be used to fool the ignorant.

[intelligence]

What about Romney care?

Why should a man suffer and for from cancer in states that hold an inordinate amount of right wing zealots?

[hanger4]

What about Romney care?

Why should a man suffer and for from cancer in states that hold an inordinate amount of right wing zealots?

Dude, you want to try again in English ??

[MMC]

What about Romney care?

Why should a man suffer and for from cancer in states that hold an inordinate amount of right wing zealots?

Oh you mean the plan Romney is adopting from the Ryan and the Demo from Oregon. :wink:

Why would the Red Controlled States be of the interest as they are the ones that are more fiscally responsible than Blue Controlled States. :undecided: I would think you would want to be all up into those Democratic Controlled Govenrments that are broke and keep spending more money. While not paying their bills. :grin:

[Mainecoons]

I guess "intelligence" isn't intelligent enough to watch the CSPAN video of Ryan blowing this ObamaCare debacle sky high. If he were, his questions would be answered.

:grin:

[intelligence]

Dude, don't you have summer school?

[MMC]

Well the left did send their best and brightest Attack dog to take Ryan on. But then Ryan kep proceeding to tear Wasserman Schultz's azz up on every Cable News channel there is and including the Rounds of the Sunday talk shows.

Then the most any has heard from Wassermann-Schultz outta her mouth, is about how her friend Gabby is doing. What a waste of Florida's Money they spent on this dipshit. :rollseyes:

[intelligence]

I guess "intelligence" isn't intelligent enough to watch the CSPAN video of Ryan blowing this ObamaCare debacle sky high. If he were, his questions would be answered.

:grin:


It's OBVIOUS, that you aren't intelligent enough to realize that ROMNEYCARE IS IDENTICAL TO OBAMACARE!!!

Which is why they should let lobodomy patients attempt political discourse....

[MMC]

"Say what"......already throwing up that Democratic Underground BS. Here let me help you with this one Blad.

http://media.oregonlive.com/politics_impact/photo/10354507-large.jpg

See this Democrat here Blad. This is the Demo who his Co-sponsoring the Ryan Plan.

WASHINGTON – In an unlikely partnership, Sen. Ron Wyden (http://gov.oregonlive.com/Congress/Ron-Wyden/)joined Rep. Paul Ryan (http://paulryan.house.gov/) on Wednesday in a plan for remodeling Medicare to ensure its long-term future.

The plan that Wyden, a Democrat from Oregon and Ryan, a Republican from Wisconsin, rolled out is a hybrid of earlier ideas, modified and repackaged in a way they hope will soften the partisan political turmoil.

He and Ryan propose maintaining Medicare in its traditional form until 2022, when seniors eligible for Medicare (those now under 55) would be able to choose Medicare or a private health care plan.

In a 13-page blueprint, Ryan and Wyden laid out the principles for an overhaul. There should be "no disruptions for those in or near retirement," the plan says. "Seniors should not be forced to reorganize their lives because of government's mistakes."

There are still many gaps and unanswered questions. Wyden and Ryan believe their plan would be cheaper, but they cannot say how much. They do promise that seniors would not be forced to make up the difference with higher premiums if costs continue to soar. Their plan requires Congress to find a solution.....snip~

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/12/democrat_ron_wyden_and_republi_1.html

Indeed I have been waiting for those leaning left to come with their Garbage. This time I will be taking an active Role in going after any of the Main-stream media that wants to put out that false perception. Not to mention any of the same type slanted politicans that think they will get to open their mouth in public and not take any heat.

Things are about to change for the left drastically. :laugh:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/New_Smilies/2bump.gif......:f_whistle:.....seems Romeny care that was helped along by the Democratic Massachusetts legislation. Won't be attending the Comedy Shows anymore. :evil6:

[intelligence]

http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/New_Smilies/2bump.gif......:f_whistle:.....seems Romeny care that was helped along by the Democratic Massachusetts legislation. Won't be attending the Comedy Shows anymore. :evil6:

Comedy is for people with humor....your making the right choice....

Funny that democrats would aid the passing of Romneycare.........UNLESS IT WAS BASED ON DP PRINCIPALS!!!!

now that, rung the bell.

Dont be late for your tea party.

[Peter1469]

It's OBVIOUS, that you aren't intelligent enough to realize that ROMNEYCARE IS IDENTICAL TO OBAMACARE!!!

Which is why they should let lobodomy patients attempt political discourse....

Explain what this word means:

"federalism"

[intelligence]

Explain what this word means:

"federalism"

Ask Lincoln. The first republican.

Or I can refer you to a good thesaurus....

You can't verbally fence me pal....victory is achieved BEFORE battle.

[MMC]

Comedy is for people with humor....your making the right choice....

Funny that democrats would aid the passing of Romneycare.........UNLESS IT WAS BASED ON DP PRINCIPALS!!!!

now that, rung the bell.

Dont be late for your tea party.


True.....which is why the DNC uses SNL. Course they forgot about all those that see live Comics and not rehearsed shows. Kinda like Romney in Massachusetts sitting as a Govenor of A fully Controlled Democratic State legislature that did what it wanted.

When it's live.....there's no way for the left to alter the tape. :wink:


http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=I5060842228089207&pid=1.7&w=193&h=146&c=7&rs=1

Nah.....no bells, just the usual of little boy blue crying Wolf again and again.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=I4853833385705474&pid=1.7&w=202&h=146&c=7&rs=1

Besides when one is a Capt.....there is no need to Attend Parties. Just Make it So. No Sugar! :grin:

[intelligence]

True.....which is why the DNC uses SNL. Course they forgot about all those that see live Comics and not rehearsed shows. Kinda like Romney in Massachusetts sitting as a Govenor of A fully Controlled Democratic State legislature that did what it wanted.

When it's live.....there's no way for the left to alter the tape. :wink:


http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=I5060842228089207&pid=1.7&w=193&h=146&c=7&rs=1

Nah.....no bells, just the usual of little boy blue crying Wolf again and again.

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=I4853833385705474&pid=1.7&w=202&h=146&c=7&rs=1

Besides when one is a Capt.....there is no need to Attend Parties. Just Make it So. No Sugar! :grin:

Meanwhile....on planet Earth.....

[Jack Fate]

Paul Ryan is going to make the pissants froth at the mouth. Best move Romney has made so far.

[Shoot the Goose]

Graphs and colors are fun to look at and can be used to fool the ignorant.

And as they often resemble coloring books, they are a quick hit with our "special" members Blad, and that idiot "intelligent" or whatever that plumber is calling themselves.

[Peter1469]

Ask Lincoln. The first republican.

Or I can refer you to a good thesaurus....

You can't verbally fence me pal....victory is achieved BEFORE battle.

I already know what it means. But based on the post I was responding to, you clearly do not. Now go study and report back when you understand. Go.

[intelligence]

I already know what it means. But based on the post I was responding to, you clearly do not. Now go study and report back when you understand. Go.

Go borrow some iq points.

Go.

[Shoot the Goose]

Ask Lincoln. The first republican.

Or I can refer you to a good thesaurus....

You can't verbally fence me pal....victory is achieved BEFORE battle.

Jeezus you are not only ignorant, but just plain stupid.

You work for a plumbing company, and think it makes you "smart". Handy with a pipe wrench perhaps, but apparently dumber than a lead pipe.

You post compete drivel. You haven't one "intelligent" post yet in this forum. God knows what orphanage they kicked you out of.

And now you want to debate that "federal" Obamacare is somehow the same as "Massachusetts" Romneycare. Wake the fuck up you stinkin libtard. Or change your moniker to dumbass, or something reasonably accurate.

[Peter1469]

Go borrow some iq points.

Go.

I am already well above average- in the very superior range, just under genius. Why don't you cut and paste a definition of federalism so I can explain to you the difference between Obama care and Romney care.

[MMC]

Meanwhile....on planet Earth.....


Meanwhile back at Sector Zero/Zero-Earth. Ryan has tore up anything the left has to bring up concerning Budgets and healthcare. Looks like he will be doing a whole lot more now. :wink:

Well, when one starts talking Tea.....just don't forget I like mine with brandy in it. :laugh:

[intelligence]

I am already well above average- in the very superior range, just under genius. Why don't you cut and paste a definition of federalism so I can explain to you the difference between Obama care and Romney care.

Tell me, why should a man survive cancer in Boston..but not the other 49 states?

We dont fight wars as individual states, why should fight disease any differently?

[intelligence]

Meanwhile back at Sector Zero/Zero-Earth. Ryan has tore up anything the left has to bring up concerning Budgets and healthcare. Looks like he will be doing a whole lot more now. :wink:

Well, when one starts talking Tea.....just don't forget I like mine with brandy in it. :laugh:


Hahahaha....Paul Ryan is a joke.

Us moogs hope he is picked. Assured victory for the blue ass.

[MMC]

Hahahaha....Paul Ryan is a joke.

Us moogs hope he is picked. Assured victory for the blue ass.

Yeah.....such a joke they had the left thinking it was Rubio or Portman. Looks Like the joke is on them now! Wonder why Axelrod didn't see it coming.

Oh thats RIGHT.....he is usually out spending money. :laugh:

[Peter1469]

Tell me, why should a man survive cancer in Boston..but not the other 49 states?

We dont fight wars as individual states, why should fight disease any differently?

Clearly you don't understand American federalism. The States gave the federal government certain limited and enumerated powers and retained all other sovereign powers....

[Aristophanes]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ63lteml28

Here ya go MC.....is this the one you are talking about? :undecided:Magnificent.

That annihilation is a thing of beauty.

[Goldie Locks]

Antidote? Really??

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More like ..."Dope".

The bottom 50% don't pay any and get back at the end of year.

[Goldie Locks]

What about Romney care?

Why should a man suffer and for from cancer in states that hold an inordinate amount of right wing zealots?

Huh???:smiley_ROFLMAO::English:

[Goldie Locks]

Dude, don't you have summer school?

Evidently you failed it.

[Goldie Locks]

Go borrow some iq points.

Go.

Well it's evident you need some...LMFAO!!!

[Goldie Locks]

Clearly you don't understand American federalism. The States gave the federal government certain limited and enumerated powers and retained all other sovereign powers....

Why did you tell him...oh well, no harm...I'm sure he doesn't understand it anyway.

[bladimz]

See this Democrat here Blad. This is the Demo who his Co-sponsoring the Ryan Plan.

WASHINGTON – In an unlikely partnership, Sen. Ron Wyden (http://gov.oregonlive.com/Congress/Ron-Wyden/)joined Rep. Paul Ryan (http://paulryan.house.gov/) on Wednesday in a plan for remodeling Medicare to ensure its long-term future.

The plan that Wyden, a Democrat from Oregon and Ryan, a Republican from Wisconsin, rolled out is a hybrid of earlier ideas, modified and repackaged in a way they hope will soften the partisan political turmoil.

He and Ryan propose maintaining Medicare in its traditional form until 2022, when seniors eligible for Medicare (those now under 55) would be able to choose Medicare or a private health care plan.

In a 13-page blueprint, Ryan and Wyden laid out the principles for an overhaul. There should be "no disruptions for those in or near retirement," the plan says. "Seniors should not be forced to reorganize their lives because of government's mistakes."

There are still many gaps and unanswered questions. Wyden and Ryan believe their plan would be cheaper, but they cannot say how much. They do promise that seniors would not be forced to make up the difference with higher premiums if costs continue to soar. Their plan requires Congress to find a solution.....snip~

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/12/democrat_ron_wyden_and_republi_1.html

Indeed I have been waiting for those leaning left to come with their Garbage. This time I will be taking an active Role in going after any of the Main-stream media that wants to put out that false perception. Not to mention any of the same type slanted politicans that think they will get to open their mouth in public and not take any heat.

Things are about to change for the left drastically. :laugh:A democratic co-sponsor you say? Well, then. That changes everything. NOT! Do you think it makes any difference to me whether he has a democrat or two or three is on-board with his plan? You can't seem to get it through your pea-brain that I. Don't. Care... about the particular ideology of either party simply for the party's sake. Have you not ever met anyone like that? Do you find it difficult to consider, or do you just find it more difficult to toss your right-wing trash around and expect left-wing trash in return.

I simply do not believe that his plan is designed to serve the interests of the general public, period.

[Mainecoons]

It is not designed to serve the interests of the 50 percent who pay no taxes, that is for certain. Are you one of those, Blat, and are pissed off that the half supporting you is getting tired of it?

You ain't seen nothing yet. :grin:

[bladimz]

If 49% don't pay federal taxes, no reform is going to not increase taxes on them. Skin in the game.Isn't taking money from the poor just as evil as taking money from the wealthy?

[Mainecoons]

Taking anyone's money and pissing it away on a government that is largely corrupt, incompetent and useless is evil.

Unless you are one of the ones wearing the feedbag. Izzat you Blad?

[Jack Fate]

A democratic co-sponsor you say? Well, then. That changes everything. NOT! Do you think it makes any difference to me whether he has a democrat or two or three is on-board with his plan? You can't seem to get it through your pea-brain that I. Don't. Care... about the particular ideology of either party simply for the party's sake. Have you not ever met anyone like that? Do you find it difficult to consider, or do you just find it more difficult to toss your right-wing trash around and expect left-wing trash in return.

I simply do not believe that his plan is designed to serve the interests of the general public, period.

........"serve the interests of the general public"..........

That's where the problem is. You don't understand the role of govt.

[bladimz]

And as they often resemble coloring books, they are a quick hit with our "special" members Blad, and that idiot "intelligent" or whatever that plumber is calling themselves.Yeah. Ya got me, Goose. You girls are making me feel more and more special all the time. Thank you for that, btw. A graph is a graph is a graph. Color is usually added, and i like colors. I'm a graphic artist and color has been a part of my life and my career. But behind the color are the facts. How many times do you have to be told that the Ryan plan sways heavily in favor of the rich (which is never successfully refuted) before you will admit that the plan is an
American FAIL.

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[Jack Fate]

Isn't taking money from the poor just as evil as taking money from the wealthy?

What do you call this?

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/08/12/sorry_seniors_obama_deputy_campaign_manager_calls_ gutting_of_medicare_an_achievement

[bladimz]

........"serve the interests of the general public"..........

That's where the problem is. You don't understand the role of govt.
"promote the general welfare". Sound familiar? (and no, i'm talking about any "welfare program", before you even say it).

[bladimz]

Taking anyone's money and pissing it away on a government that is largely corrupt, incompetent and useless is evil.

Unless you are one of the ones wearing the feedbag. Izzat you Blad?Yes. Absolutely. Every day. And... it's delicious!!

[Jack Fate]

"promote the general welfare". Sound familiar? (and no, i'm talking about any "welfare program", before you even say it).

Then what are you talking about? Lay it out.

[Jack Fate]

Yes. Absolutely. Every day. And... it's delicious!!

So you're just another govt parasite that costs working people money.

[Chris]

"promote the general welfare"

Let's assume this defines the legitimate purpose of government. Then taxing the rich and redistributing to the poor is special interested and therefore violates that purpose.

[bladimz]

What do you call this?

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/08/12/sorry_seniors_obama_deputy_campaign_manager_calls_ gutting_of_medicare_an_achievement
I call it "Not Much".

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/12/1119290/-Slaying-the-700-Billion-Medicare-Cut-zombie-lie

On 'Obama cuts $700 billion from Medicare'

· Prebuttal: The claim that OBAMACARE cuts $700 BILLION from Medicare is TRUE and the GOOD NEWS is that in doing so, it INCREASES HEALTHCARE FOR SENIORS and AT THE SAME TIME cuts fraud, WASTE and abuse. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office determined that the Medicare provisions in President Obama's health care law would save $700 BILLION over a decade and EXTENDS THE LIFE OF MEDICARE. Extends it EIGHT YEARS.

GOP TP (talking point): Mitt Romney also laid out commonsense reforms that will make good on our promises to today’s seniors and save Social Security and Medicare for future generations.
Rebuttal: The ROMNEY-RYAN plan takes $700 BILLION AWAY FROM SENIORS but does NOT use it to fund HEALTH SERVICES for ANYBODY. Yet Republicans in the House voted to strip that $700 Billion FROM SENIORS ENTIRELY. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates under the ROMNEY-RYAN plan new Medicare beneficiaries will pay more than $1,200 OUT OF POCKET by 2030 and more than $5,900 more by 2050 and SHIFT ADDITIONAL COSTS to seniors by RAISING the eligibility age to 67. This NEGATIVELY impacts today's middle-aged, middle class HARD WORKING Americans while giving the wealthiest 1-percent HUGE TAX BREAKS.

Sources:
FACT CHECK: Questionable claims in veep debut

"I'm right, you're wrong. End of story."

[bladimz]

So you're just another govt parasite that costs working people money.Well, i guess if you want to call a recently disabled man who built (with his own money... no gifts, no inheritance, etc.), owned and ran his own printing business for 25 years, employing a small number of people (a job creator, if you will), paying into social security since 1974 a government parasite, that's your right. And that's what i'd expect from you.

[bladimz]

Let's assume this defines the legitimate purpose of government. Then taxing the rich and redistributing to the poor is special interested and therefore violates that purpose.If you want to talk about redistribution, you'll have to acknowledge that redistribution goes both ways. If not... explain how the wealthy became wealthy to begin with.

[Chris]

If you want to talk about redistribution, you'll have to acknowledge that redistribution goes both ways. If not... explain how the wealthy became wealthy to begin with.

The one is social welfare, the other corporate welfare. These political means of accumulating wealth are both special interested and therefore unconstitutional.

The wealthy generally become wealthy through work and exchange of goods and services. These economic means of generating wealth benefit all.

[Shoot the Goose]

Yeah. Ya got me, Goose. You girls are making me feel more and more special all the time. Thank you for that, btw. A graph is a graph is a graph. Color is usually added, and i like colors. I'm a graphic artist and color has been a part of my life and my career. But behind the color are the facts. How many times do you have to be told that the Ryan plan sways heavily in favor of the rich (which is never successfully refuted) before you will admit that the plan is an
American FAIL.



Blad. I took a look at the CBPP site that produced the chart, and it appears as one giant partisan coloring book for Democrats. That is how I remembered it, and it has not changed.

Regardless, the Democrats have no plan to fix things. Nada. Nothing. What they have done is accelerated us towards the cliff.

Meanwhile, both Romney and Ryan have embraced plans similar to the only true non-partisan thing out there, the Simpson-Bowles Commission.

We either fix it Blad, or we self-destruct. The Democrats have no solution. I am exceedingly confident that the GOP will push a plan that not only cuts the heck out of spending, but which has everyone paying more.

But as the Democrats have no plan, a pox on them until they put something serious on the table. Ryan has.

[Jack Fate]

I call it "Not Much".

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/12/1119290/-Slaying-the-700-Billion-Medicare-Cut-zombie-lie


"I'm right, you're wrong. End of story."

The only story is that you believe whatever is fed to you. Sound bites aren't going to win this election. Your party is being held accountable for theft.

Explain how stealing 700 billion that seniors paid into their system helps them right when baby boomers are retiring. Go.

[Jack Fate]

Well, i guess if you want to call a recently disabled man who built (with his own money... no gifts, no inheritance, etc.), owned and ran his own printing business for 25 years, employing a small number of people (a job creator, if you will), paying into social security since 1974 a government parasite, that's your right. And that's what i'd expect from you.

Your President said you didn't build that business. Your anger is misdirected.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjPI6no5ng

[Mainecoons]

If you want to talk about redistribution, you'll have to acknowledge that redistribution goes both ways. If not... explain how the wealthy became wealthy to begin with.

They worked for it, genius.

DOOH!

[hanger4]

You, having said this;



owned and ran his own printing business for 25 years, employing a small number of people (a job creator, if you will), paying into social security since 1974


And then saying this;



If you want to talk about redistribution, you'll have to acknowledge that redistribution goes both ways. If not... explain how the wealthy became wealthy to begin with.


Throws into doubt the validity of you saying this;



owned and ran his own printing business for 25 years, employing a small number of people (a job creator, if you will), paying into social security since 1974


Just sayin'

[Frogger]

Alan West was correct, Obama and the Democrats want us to be slaves of the government. A slave is someone who must work for the benefit of another without choosing to do so. By taking money from those who earned it in order to give it to those who did not earn it but simply want it the Obama government is reducing people to slavery.

Paul Ryan is an emancipationist. He wants the people to decide how their money is spent, not some ultra-liberal quasi-socialists sitting in Washington.

[Trinnity]

Mr. Obama has no problem taking money from the poor. His chief adviser and the defacto POTUS is Valerie Jarret, and she had NO problem taking govt funds from the poor Black people of Grove Parc Plaza to enhance her personal bank account. Get a clue. Do some research.

[Jack Fate]

Mr. Obama has no problem taking money from the poor. His chief adviser and the defacto POTUS is Valerie Jarret, and she had NO problem taking govt funds from the poor Black people of Grove Parc Plaza to enhance her personal bank account. Get a clue. Do some research.

They know they're lying and don't care. All that matters is keeping power. Don't you dare question their patriotism, however. They will back a failure because they can't admit his policies aren't working. That's how un-American and partisan they really are.

[roadmaster]

They know they're lying and don't care. All that matters is keeping power. Don't you dare question their patriotism, however. They will back a failure because they can't admit his policies aren't working. That's how un-American and partisan they really are.

Many in the government are greedy and will prey on it's own people. They don't care and they know the banks have been stealing for years now.

[roadmaster]

To be honest I am with what Mr. Herman Cain said, just like the Constitution everyone can understand it. Why write laws over 500 pages long that most can't understand? It should be simple enough for an 11th grader to understand and know how it stands. That way people will know what they are voting for.