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Common
09-06-2015, 09:17 PM
I do not believe it


SHOCK POLL: Trump receives 25% of black vote in general election matchup
For all the talk about Donald Trump allegedly driving minorities away from the Republican Party, could he actually bring people in?
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-e1441585424624-400x255.jpg (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-e1441585424624.jpg)A SurveyUSA poll (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6) released Friday shows in a hypothetical matchup with Hillary Clinton, Trump is ahead 45% to 40%.
But digging into the racial breakdown of the respondents is revealing. For example, the poll finds 25% of black respondents say they would vote for Trump over Clinton.




How impressive is that? Let’s look at the last several presidential results for Republicans.
When President Obama was running for re-election, despite a sputtering economy that was impacting blacks the worst, Mitt Romney was able to only muster 6% of the black vote, according to the Roper Center (http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/) at the University of Connecticut.
At the time Obama was facing off against John McCain, the Republican received a measly 4%, according stats (http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2008/) from to the Roper Center.
When George W. Bush was running for re-election in 2004, he only did a little better. The organization reports Bush received 11% of the black vote. He received 9% in 2000.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/

Safety
09-06-2015, 09:20 PM
"It'll be great!"

Captain Obvious
09-06-2015, 09:22 PM
lol - watch him win the hispanics too.

Howey
09-06-2015, 11:07 PM
I do not believe it


SHOCK POLL: Trump receives 25% of black vote in general election matchup
For all the talk about Donald Trump allegedly driving minorities away from the Republican Party, could he actually bring people in?
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-e1441585424624-400x255.jpg (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-e1441585424624.jpg)A SurveyUSA poll (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6) released Friday shows in a hypothetical matchup with Hillary Clinton, Trump is ahead 45% to 40%.
But digging into the racial breakdown of the respondents is revealing. For example, the poll finds 25% of black respondents say they would vote for Trump over Clinton.




How impressive is that? Let’s look at the last several presidential results for Republicans.
When President Obama was running for re-election, despite a sputtering economy that was impacting blacks the worst, Mitt Romney was able to only muster 6% of the black vote, according to the Roper Center (http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/) at the University of Connecticut.
At the time Obama was facing off against John McCain, the Republican received a measly 4%, according stats (http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2008/) from to the Roper Center.
When George W. Bush was running for re-election in 2004, he only did a little better. The organization reports Bush received 11% of the black vote. He received 9% in 2000.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/

I'll believe it as much as I believe the two minutes of spam I just got on my phone by clicking your link.

Howey
09-06-2015, 11:08 PM
lol - watch him win the hispanics too.
I wouldn't click the link.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theamericanmirror.com/nv-poll-trump-winning-among-hispanic-voters/&ved=0CCAQFjABahUKEwjG9fDtheTHAhXFdh4KHaN-AB8&usg=AFQjCNEO13CFviZwBgLmFw5nj92hEye_TQ

Howey
09-06-2015, 11:19 PM
More on Kyle Olson

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/03/education_action_group_leader.html

Redrose
09-06-2015, 11:20 PM
I do not believe it


SHOCK POLL: Trump receives 25% of black vote in general election matchup


For all the talk about Donald Trump allegedly driving minorities away from the Republican Party, could he actually bring people in?
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-e1441585424624-400x255.jpg (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-e1441585424624.jpg)A SurveyUSA poll (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6) released Friday shows in a hypothetical matchup with Hillary Clinton, Trump is ahead 45% to 40%.
But digging into the racial breakdown of the respondents is revealing. For example, the poll finds 25% of black respondents say they would vote for Trump over Clinton.




How impressive is that? Let’s look at the last several presidential results for Republicans.
When President Obama was running for re-election, despite a sputtering economy that was impacting blacks the worst, Mitt Romney was able to only muster 6% of the black vote, according to the Roper Center (http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/) at the University of Connecticut.
At the time Obama was facing off against John McCain, the Republican received a measly 4%, according stats (http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2008/) from to the Roper Center.
When George W. Bush was running for re-election in 2004, he only did a little better. The organization reports Bush received 11% of the black vote. He received 9% in 2000.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/


I don't know if that's true, but it very well may be. 25% of the black vote may be possible. Not all blacks are Democrats or liberal. Same for the Hispanic vote. My Latino friends, most of them, like what Trump is saying about illegal immigration. Time will tell.

OGIS
09-07-2015, 10:38 AM
SHOCK POLL: Trump receives 25% of black vote in general election matchuphttp://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/

Mac-7
09-07-2015, 10:41 AM
I'm not surprised

whenever illegal aliens are the topic on Cspan Washington journal call-in show blacks oppose amnesty by a very wide margin

TrueBlue
09-07-2015, 11:03 AM
I'm not surprised

whenever illegal aliens are the topic on Cspan Washington journal call-in show blacks oppose amnesty by a very wide margin
Yet they may well be forgetting that some of their own African ancestors may have come into this country the same way!

OGIS
09-07-2015, 11:05 AM
Yet they may well be forgetting that some of their own African ancestors may have come into this country the same way!

Being brought here in shackles is the same as swimming the Rio Grand?

Mister D
09-07-2015, 11:10 AM
It's just a poll but the results really don't surprise me. Only a self-appointed black elite dreams of a black/brown alliance against whitey. The reality is that blacks and non-white Hispanics have few interests in common and it shows on the ground.

Mac-7
09-07-2015, 11:11 AM
Yet they may well be forgetting that some of their own African ancestors may have come into this country the same way!

A typical white lib who really does think blacks are stupid.

meaning if some black people like trump they must be forgetting something.

IMPress Polly
09-07-2015, 11:13 AM
I check PollingReport.com all the time and SurveyUSA is not a familiar name in polling to me. To that end, I would question whether they're using credible, scientific polling methods (like random sampling).

OGIS
09-07-2015, 11:13 AM
A typical white lib who really does think blacks are stupid.

meaning if some black people like trump they must be forgetting something.

ZOMFG, you actually said something that makes sense.

OGIS
09-07-2015, 11:15 AM
I check PollingReport.com all the time and SurveyUSA is not a familiar name in polling to me. To that end, I would question whether they're using credible, scientific polling methods (like random sampling).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyUSA

Could be a bit squirrelly.

Howey
09-07-2015, 11:20 AM
SHOCK POLL: Trump receives 25% of black vote in general election matchuphttp://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/

Dupe thread.

Peter1469
09-07-2015, 11:25 AM
Being brought here in shackles is the same as swimming the Rio Grand?
Wading, technically....

Peter1469
09-07-2015, 11:26 AM
Dupe thread.

post the original thread link.

Howey
09-07-2015, 11:32 AM
post the original thread link.

http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/50273-Do-you-believe-this-Poll

Common
09-07-2015, 11:33 AM
I posted this already and in mine I said. I do not believe it one bit. I think its a hype piece for the gop base

Peter1469
09-07-2015, 11:34 AM
Notice: Duplicate threads merged

OGIS
09-07-2015, 11:35 AM
I posted this already and in mine I said. I do not believe it one bit. I think its a hype piece for the gop base

Could backfire. Trump may lose the out-and-out mouthbreather racist vote.

Common
09-07-2015, 11:37 AM
Could backfire. Trump may lose the out-and-out mouthbreather racist vote.

No he wont they have no place else to go but whoever leads the gop primary. The poll isnt from a major polling organization and Its only posted on right wing sites. So that tells me its very iffy

texan
09-07-2015, 12:00 PM
I want to believe it.

Dr. Who
09-07-2015, 12:04 PM
I check PollingReport.com all the time and SurveyUSA is not a familiar name in polling to me. To that end, I would question whether they're using credible, scientific polling methods (like random sampling).
According to Wikipedia they are a robo calling outfit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyUSA):

"SurveyUSA is a polling firm in the United States. It conducts market research for corporations and interest groups, but is best known for conducting opinion polls for various political offices and questions. SurveyUSA conducts these opinion polls under contract by over 50 television stations (who also use the SurveyUSA market research to fine-tune their newscasts for higher ratings). The difference between SurveyUSA and other telephone polling firms is twofold. First, SurveyUSA does not use live call center employees, but an automated system. Taped questions are asked of the respondent by a professional announcer (usually a local news anchor), and the respondent is invited to press a button on their touch tone telephone or record a message at a prompt designating their selection. Secondly, SurveyUSA uses more concise language, especially for ballot propositions, than competitors. This can lead to diverging results, such as for California Proposition 76, where one version of the SurveyUSA question with a one sentence description, polled significantly differently compared to another version with a three sentence description (which was similar to a version of the question used by other pollsters, which used a five or six sentence question).[1]"

Safety
09-07-2015, 12:11 PM
According to Wikipedia they are a robo calling outfit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyUSA):

"SurveyUSA is a polling firm in the United States. It conducts market research for corporations and interest groups, but is best known for conducting opinion polls for various political offices and questions. SurveyUSA conducts these opinion polls under contract by over 50 television stations (who also use the SurveyUSA market research to fine-tune their newscasts for higher ratings). The difference between SurveyUSA and other telephone polling firms is twofold. First, SurveyUSA does not use live call center employees, but an automated system. Taped questions are asked of the respondent by a professional announcer (usually a local news anchor), and the respondent is invited to press a button on their touch tone telephone or record a message at a prompt designating their selection. Secondly, SurveyUSA uses more concise language, especially for ballot propositions, than competitors. This can lead to diverging results, such as for California Proposition 76, where one version of the SurveyUSA question with a one sentence description, polled significantly differently compared to another version with a three sentence description (which was similar to a version of the question used by other pollsters, which used a five or six sentence question).[1]"

That's kinda like how some were overly against Obamacare, but supported ACA. It's all how you word the description.

Howey
09-07-2015, 12:15 PM
No he wont they have no place else to go but whoever leads the gop primary. The poll isnt from a major polling organization and Its only posted on right wing sites. So that tells me its very iffy

The poll depends on robocalls. I hate them so when I get them I say I'm a black republican female. I posted the link to the poll itself. What the Olson idiot did is take an obscure question and highlighted it. As with anything that starts with "SHOCKING" I'd recommend ignoring it. You'll see this moron and Breitbart, align with Info wars and the Enquirer love to use those superlatives.

AMAZING!

Common
09-07-2015, 12:16 PM
I check PollingReport.com all the time and SurveyUSA is not a familiar name in polling to me. To that end, I would question whether they're using credible, scientific polling methods (like random sampling).

Yep I agree, SurveyUSA is a no name. Theres alot of polling startups that are just for the purpose of doing hype polls to bolster whatever. I dont believe this poll one bit.

Howey
09-07-2015, 12:18 PM
I want to believe it.

I'm sure you do...You're just the type they cater to.


According to Wikipedia they are a robo calling outfit (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyUSA):

"SurveyUSA is a polling firm in the United States. It conducts market research for corporations and interest groups, but is best known for conducting opinion polls for various political offices and questions. SurveyUSA conducts these opinion polls under contract by over 50 television stations (who also use the SurveyUSA market research to fine-tune their newscasts for higher ratings). The difference between SurveyUSA and other telephone polling firms is twofold. First, SurveyUSA does not use live call center employees, but an automated system. Taped questions are asked of the respondent by a professional announcer (usually a local news anchor), and the respondent is invited to press a button on their touch tone telephone or record a message at a prompt designating their selection. Secondly, SurveyUSA uses more concise language, especially for ballot propositions, than competitors. This can lead to diverging results, such as for California Proposition 76, where one version of the SurveyUSA question with a one sentence description, polled significantly differently compared to another version with a three sentence description (which was similar to a version of the question used by other pollsters, which used a five or six sentence question).[1]"

That's twice in two days. Forget Magic Mike. Next they're going to accuse me of being you.

Dr. Who
09-07-2015, 12:25 PM
I'm sure you do...You're just the type they cater to.


That's rice in two days. Forget Magic Mike. Next they're going to accuse me of being you.
:shocked:

Mister D
09-07-2015, 12:29 PM
:shocked:

That's a long time for rice, Dr. Who. What are you making?

Mister D
09-07-2015, 12:30 PM
Or maybe Howey is pretending to be Asian to differentiate himself from magicmike? :grin:

Safety
09-07-2015, 12:31 PM
LoL

Captain Obvious
09-07-2015, 01:12 PM
I wouldn't click the link.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theamericanmirror.com/nv-poll-trump-winning-among-hispanic-voters/&ved=0CCAQFjABahUKEwjG9fDtheTHAhXFdh4KHaN-AB8&usg=AFQjCNEO13CFviZwBgLmFw5nj92hEye_TQ

I generally don't

Mac-7
09-07-2015, 01:49 PM
Could backfire. Trump may lose the out-and-out mouthbreather racist vote.

On the previous page you were nice enough to compliment me for saying something intelligent.

But unfortunately I can't return the compliment for that post.

yuk

Private Pickle
09-07-2015, 01:53 PM
Or maybe Howey is pretending to be Asian to differentiate himself from magicmike? :grin:

I eat rite wice rice westerday!

Howey
09-07-2015, 01:54 PM
:shocked:

My phone no typie roo good. :)

OGIS
09-07-2015, 02:23 PM
The poll depends on robocalls. I hate them so when I get them I say I'm a black republican female. I posted the link to the poll itself. What the Olson idiot did is take an obscure question and highlighted it. As with anything that starts with "SHOCKING" I'd recommend ignoring it. You'll see this moron and Breitbart, align with Info wars and the Enquirer love to use those superlatives.

AMAZING!

And that Mark Dice guy with the stupid dope-in-the-road interviews and fake petitions. Though the videos are sometimes kind of funny.

Tahuyaman
09-07-2015, 02:52 PM
I do not believe it


SHOCK POLL: Trump receives 25% of black vote in general election matchup


For all the talk about Donald Trump allegedly driving minorities away from the Republican Party, could he actually bring people in?
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-e1441585424624-400x255.jpg (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-e1441585424624.jpg)A SurveyUSA poll (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6) released Friday shows in a hypothetical matchup with Hillary Clinton, Trump is ahead 45% to 40%.
But digging into the racial breakdown of the respondents is revealing. For example, the poll finds 25% of black respondents say they would vote for Trump over Clinton.




How impressive is that? Let’s look at the last several presidential results for Republicans.
When President Obama was running for re-election, despite a sputtering economy that was impacting blacks the worst, Mitt Romney was able to only muster 6% of the black vote, according to the Roper Center (http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/) at the University of Connecticut.
At the time Obama was facing off against John McCain, the Republican received a measly 4%, according stats (http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2008/) from to the Roper Center.
When George W. Bush was running for re-election in 2004, he only did a little better. The organization reports Bush received 11% of the black vote. He received 9% in 2000.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/

I believe pollsters and statisticians can manipulate a poll through a variety of means to get the answer they want. Nothing unbelievable about that.

Howey
09-07-2015, 04:20 PM
And that Mark Dice guy with the stupid dope-in-the-road interviews and fake petitions. Though the videos are sometimes kind of funny.

Lol. You know he dubs in the questions afterwards to make the people look dumb, right?

They're all snarky idiots, these two, O'Keefe and that moron with the doctored PP videos.

It's one of the reasons I despise Libertarians, never met an honest one.

Mac-7
09-07-2015, 04:41 PM
Lol. You know he dubs in the questions afterwards to make the people look dumb, right?

They're all snarky idiots, these two, O'Keefe and that moron with the doctored PP videos.

It's one of the reasons I despise Libertarians, never met an honest one.

I've never met an honest liberal.

maybe that's just politics in the real world.

But it's made me very suspicious of anything libs tell me.

Tahuyaman
09-07-2015, 07:25 PM
?... and that moron with the doctored PP videos.

Doctored PP videos? I haven't seen those. Where are they?

Tahuyaman
09-07-2015, 07:26 PM
I've never met an honest liberal..

I've met a couple.

Professor Peabody
09-08-2015, 03:27 AM
I do not believe it


SHOCK POLL: Trump receives 25% of black vote in general election matchup


For all the talk about Donald Trump allegedly driving minorities away from the Republican Party, could he actually bring people in?
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-e1441585424624-400x255.jpg (http://www.theamericanmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/trump-e1441585424624.jpg)A SurveyUSA poll (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6) released Friday shows in a hypothetical matchup with Hillary Clinton, Trump is ahead 45% to 40%.
But digging into the racial breakdown of the respondents is revealing. For example, the poll finds 25% of black respondents say they would vote for Trump over Clinton.




How impressive is that? Let’s look at the last several presidential results for Republicans.
When President Obama was running for re-election, despite a sputtering economy that was impacting blacks the worst, Mitt Romney was able to only muster 6% of the black vote, according to the Roper Center (http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/) at the University of Connecticut.
At the time Obama was facing off against John McCain, the Republican received a measly 4%, according stats (http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2008/) from to the Roper Center.
When George W. Bush was running for re-election in 2004, he only did a little better. The organization reports Bush received 11% of the black vote. He received 9% in 2000.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/


Black Americans Are Worse Off Under Obama

by Deroy Murdock | May 16, 2014 12:00 AM

Yet they still support him almost unanimously.

When Obama entered office on January 20, 2009, U.S. unemployment stood at 7.8 percent. By April 2014, that Bureau of Labor Statistics figure had fallen to 6.3 percent — a modest improvement. Among blacks overall, joblessness dropped, though less significantly — from 12.7 to 11.6 percent. But for blacks aged 16 to 19, unemployment grew from 35.3 to 36.8 percent.

Poverty has increased under Obama. Overall, 14.3 percent of Americans were below the poverty line in January 2009, versus 15.0 percent in 2012, according to the latest available data from the Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey. Similarly, the share of black Americans living in poverty expanded from 25.8 to 27.2 percent.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/378087/black-americans-are-worse-under-obama-deroy-murdock

Obama's executive order amnesty plus making 1 million legal permanent residents per year and Obama is repaying Black support for himself and the Democrats with a large hunting knife in the back.

zelmo1234
09-08-2015, 05:48 AM
Yet they may well be forgetting that some of their own African ancestors may have come into this country the same way!

What the hell are you talking about now?

I know that the history books are getting to be more like comic books but I still don't think that I can remember the time when African Americans were coming into the country by the millions walking across the southern boarder.

I would guess that many can trace their heritage back to being brought to this country against their will. But that is another story.

zelmo1234
09-08-2015, 05:55 AM
I don't know if it is really a stretch to think that a jobs oriented GOP president could get 25% of the black vote.


First lets us remember that traditionally the GOP would receive 10 to 15% of the black vote, until the Obama elections. The if you look at what has happened to the Black community under Obama, they have really had 8 horrible years, economically.

Next through the black lives matter and all of the racial tension that the Democrats have been promoting, many in the black community have noticed one thing. All of the cities where they are having trouble with open racial discrimination? There are no Republicans to be found, anywhere in government and there haven't been any in decades

I suspect as more and more of these demonstrations go on and people really look at what is causing the problem, they will come to the conclusion that the Democrats have not changed from their historical position on race.