Which Party Creates More Jobs? (like we didn't know)

[Cigar]

Two political and economic analysts say that a review of 75 years of economic data reveals that the Democrats have created twice as many jobs as the Republicans

http://zfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/Jobs-Rep-Dem-percent.png

http://zfacts.com/job-creators
(http://zfacts.com/job-creators)
http://politicsthatwork.com/democrats-create-more-jobs.php

Denials to follow

[whatukno]

That makes sense, instead of trying to get the richest people tax cuts, Democrats work towards lifting people up from the bottom and enabling them the means to get jobs, not only jobs, but real careers.

[Ethereal]

Neither party creates any jobs. The market creates jobs. Politicians just take money that was already made in the market and then redistribute the money to their favored special interest groups, which they predictably claim is economically beneficial. I'm sure the mafia bosses who demand "protection money" from local businesses make similar claims when they redistribute their stolen wealth, too.

[Ethereal]

That makes sense, instead of trying to get the richest people tax cuts, Democrats work towards lifting people up from the bottom and enabling them the means to get jobs, not only jobs, but real careers.

Yea, that's why Democrat cities like Detroit and Chicago have been so successful at eliminating poverty and helping poor people rise up in the world.

Oh, wait, the exact opposite has happened. Back to the drawing board.

[Cigar]

Yea, that's why Democrat cities like Detroit and Chicago have been so successful at eliminating poverty and helping poor people rise up in the world.

Oh, wait, the exact opposite has happened. Back to the drawing board.

Are you disputing the numbers?

[Captain Obvious]

Neither party creates any jobs. The market creates jobs. Politicians just take money that was already made in the market and then redistribute the money to their favored special interest groups, which they predictably claim is economically beneficial. I'm sure the mafia bosses who demand "protection money" from local businesses make similar claims when they redistribute their stolen wealth, too.

If it's not written in 3rd grade English on a DNC talking points meme format, it's beyond Cigar's comprehension.

[Ethereal]

Are you disputing the numbers?

I'm disputing your interpretation of the numbers.

[whatukno]

Yea, that's why Democrat cities like Detroit and Chicago have been so successful at eliminating poverty and helping poor people rise up in the world.

Oh, wait, the exact opposite has happened. Back to the drawing board.

I love how people try and use Detroit and Chicago as examples of hell on Earth brought forth because of liberal policies.

They don't understand moderation, if you had a large city that was predominately conservative, you would have the exact same problems, because corruption is bipartisan.

[Cigar]

I love how people try and use Detroit and Chicago as examples of hell on Earth brought forth because of liberal policies.

They don't understand moderation, if you had a large city that was predominately conservative, you would have the exact same problems, because corruption is bipartisan.

Losing can do that ... expect more from them, because their reality isn't changing.

[Cigar]

I'm disputing your interpretation of the numbers.

They're not my numbers, I never had a Presidential Administration

[Ethereal]

I love how people try and use Detroit and Chicago as examples of hell on Earth brought forth because of liberal policies.

Democrats are not liberals.

And Detroit and Chicago are just the two most obvious examples of the manifest failure of Democrat policies to lift people out of poverty. There are many more examples that I can cite.


They don't understand moderation, if you had a large city that was predominately conservative, you would have the exact same problems, because corruption is bipartisan.

Well, there are more options than just Democrats and Republicans, but your point is entirely speculative. My point, however, is based on reality, and the reality is Democrat policies have failed miserably to lift their cities out of poverty. If anything, they've created more poverty and ignorance.

[Ethereal]

They're not my numbers, I never had a Presidential Administration

I'm not disputing the numbers, I'm disputing your interpretation of them.

[Cigar]

I'm not disputing the numbers, I'm disputing your interpretation of them.

I couldn't give a shit about the numbers, I'm questioning why Dick Cheney had the stones to criticize anyone on planet earth about foreign policies based on his career record.

Please explain to me what Dick Cheney has done for America?

[Ethereal]

I couldn't give a $#@! about the numbers, I'm questioning why Dick Cheney had the stones to criticize anyone on planet earth about foreign policies based on his career record.

Please explain to me what Dick Cheney has done for America?

This thread has nothing to do with Dick Cheney or foreign policy.

[Professor Peabody]

One only needs to look at the numbers from each city to see how bad Democrat controlled cities are doing.

[Professor Peabody]

I couldn't give a $#@! about the numbers, I'm questioning why Dick Cheney had the stones to criticize anyone on planet earth about foreign policies based on his career record. Please explain to me what Dick Cheney has done for America? Far more than Obama has.

[Safety]

House Speaker John Boehner issued a statement saying that the president has obstructed Republican efforts to create jobs, most recently vetoing a measure that would protect the rights of small businesses and workers.

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Republicans, Democrats Disagree on Gov't Role in Creating Jobs:

PRINCETON, NJ -- Republicans and Democrats are sharply divided on the government's role in creating jobs in the United States. Republicans are more likely to say reduced government regulation and involvement will lead to more jobs, while Democrats focus more on government involvement such as funding infrastructure work. Similar percentages in both groups, however, say the best way to create more jobs is to stop sending work overseas.


Donald Trump is hitting GOP rival Ben Carson, saying the former neurosurgeon doesn't know as much about creating jobs.

“He’s really a friend of mine, I just think it’s a very difficult situation that he puts himself into, to have a doctor who wasn’t creating jobs and would have a nurse or maybe two nurses,” Trump said in an interview with the Daily Caller on Wednesday.


Republicans have held a few positions adamantly during the law few years. Obamacare is a disaster. The government shouldn’t act to stop climate change. Maybe most notably, they have continually warned of impending doom due to the budget deficit—and, in turn, have opposed government spending to create jobs.

Or maybe not. Last Thursday, House Republicans passed a “jobs” bill that includes a smorgasbord of traditional conservative ideas. But it would also increase the deficit by $590 billion over the next 10 years, according to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. And these aren’t temporary costs, like the stimulus (which wasn’t that much larger, money-wise than this new GOP “jobs” plan anyways). After the first decade, the costs will only increase.

http://www.gop.gov/solution/jobs-and-economic-growth/

Interesting, something that could be construed as positive for the left, it is now debated that neither party can create jobs, but they seem to run on that aspect.....I guess it's like unemployment numbers, if they look good, then change the way the numbers are calculated, if they are bad, then take it at face value.....

[Professor Peabody]

Two political and economic analysts say that a review of 75 years of economic data reveals that the Democrats have created twice as many jobs as the Republicans

http://zfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/Jobs-Rep-Dem-percent.png

http://zfacts.com/job-creators
(http://zfacts.com/job-creators)
http://politicsthatwork.com/democrats-create-more-jobs.php

Denials to follow

Because part time low wage jobs are just so popular?

http://cdn.tradingeconomics.com/charts/united-states-labor-force-participation-rate.png?s=unitedstalabforparra&v=201509071304h&d1=20090109&d2=20150909

[Chris]

That makes sense, instead of trying to get the richest people tax cuts, Democrats work towards lifting people up from the bottom and enabling them the means to get jobs, not only jobs, but real careers.

And the effectiveness of that is the poverty rate...

http://i.snag.gy/njXZW.jpg

[Chris]

http://www.gop.gov/solution/jobs-and-economic-growth/

Interesting, something that could be construed as positive for the left, it is now debated that neither party can create jobs, but they seem to run on that aspect.....I guess it's like unemployment numbers, if they look good, then change the way the numbers are calculated, if they are bad, then take it at face value.....

They each run on empty promises.

[texan]

Hate to throw a wrench into your party but Truman, Kennedy and Roosevelt's policies are republican tax policies...........and possibly Clinton.

However, before you start the oh the rate was 90% on the rich way back, please do your homework on the tax write-offs for the rich....No one can realistically can have 90% taken with no recourse. There was a huge payday for them and this was a brilliant republican based idea.

[Bob]

Two political and economic analysts say that a review of 75 years of economic data reveals that the Democrats have created twice as many jobs as the Republicans

http://zfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/Jobs-Rep-Dem-percent.png

http://zfacts.com/job-creators
(http://zfacts.com/job-creators)
http://politicsthatwork.com/democrats-create-more-jobs.php

Denials to follow

The graph above has no meaning. It is like asking who creates the most jobs during daytime or during the dark.

There is no correlation is my meaning.

Factually, the party that gets out of the way of job creation can be said to create most, and republicans get out of the way.

[Bob]

That makes sense, instead of trying to get the richest people tax cuts, Democrats work towards lifting people up from the bottom and enabling them the means to get jobs, not only jobs, but real careers.

Actually, and I have asked hundreds of Democrats to explain that, but none have managed to show a proof. Correlation is not causation.

[maineman]

Correlation is not causation.


You must be right. It probably is nothing more than a 75 year long crazy coincidence.

[Bob]

You must be right. It probably is nothing more than a 75 year long crazy coincidence.

Not actually, they say liars figure. And that chart in no way proves causation.

Show me if you don't agree.

[maineman]

Not actually, they say liars figure. And that chart in no way proves causation.

Show me if you don't agree.

again... it doesn't "prove" it. It clearly shows a totally crazy 75 year long running coincidence. Go with that.

[Peter1469]

Two political and economic analysts say that a review of 75 years of economic data reveals that the Democrats have created twice as many jobs as the Republicans

http://zfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/Jobs-Rep-Dem-percent.png

http://zfacts.com/job-creators
(http://zfacts.com/job-creators)
http://politicsthatwork.com/democrats-create-more-jobs.php

Denials to follow

The graph is a clever demonstration of that fun saying about statistics, what is that saying again.

I decided to look at it because it doesn't pass the smell test. Roosevelt high during the Great Depression / WWII (remember the chart says private sector, not military); GB in the red even though the economy was hot in the period between the Dot Com recession and the Fiscal crash of 2008; Carter high during stagflation, and Reagan low.... Something is afoot here.

These are averages of the entire period being represented. 8 years for Bush. 12 years for Reagan-Bush. Etc. Clever.

Look at averages by presidential term (4 years). (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms) Then the picture is different and does not support the silly conclusion of the OP. In the screen shot Obama's last term is not included- it is on a 2% growth rate.

It is still averages and Bush's years show the weakness. 2001-03 were bad. 08-09 were extremely bad. 04-07 were hot, too hot. We were below "full employment." That meant that employers had to hire in the pool of the "sick, lame, and lazy"; people who would be unemployable if any other qualified candidate wanted the job.

[donttread]

Two political and economic analysts say that a review of 75 years of economic data reveals that the Democrats have created twice as many jobs as the Republicans

http://zfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/Jobs-Rep-Dem-percent.png

http://zfacts.com/job-creators
(http://zfacts.com/job-creators)
http://politicsthatwork.com/democrats-create-more-jobs.php

Denials to follow

You mean like the jobs created recently flipping burgers where full time workers still require government benefits to get by?

[texan]

That makes sense, instead of trying to get the richest people tax cuts, Democrats work towards lifting people up from the bottom and enabling them the means to get jobs, not only jobs, but real careers.

OK for the Obama the great progressive warrior supporters. Whats changed in lifting the people up from the bottom? Oh Nothing, you people are moronic. NOTHINGS CHANGED ITS ALL RHETORIC!

You want jobs and a good economy elect republicans. Remember by your own admission (you always want it both ways tho) they are the friends of business, not dems. Dems punish business which costs jobs. Gotta make your cake and eat it too mind up nit wits.

[Chris]

The policies of any presidency take time not only to implement but to have any effects. It could well be that's what the graph shows.