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AeonPax
09-14-2015, 06:25 AM
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AIPAC Spent Millions of Dollars to Defeat the Iran Deal. Instead, It May Have Destroyed Itself.

The powerful Israel lobby has been badly damaged, and that’s good news for both Palestinians and Israelis. --- It is hard to exaggerate the damage inflicted on AIPAC by the congressional defeat of its efforts to torpedo the Iran nuclear deal. It is not as if AIPAC won’t live to fight again, because it will, but this defeat has ruptured the status quo, possibly forever.

The extent of its efforts to defeat the deal was unprecedented even for a lobby known for its no-holds-barred wars against past White House initiatives it considered unfriendly to Israel, going all the way back to the Ford administration. AIPAC, and its cutout Citizens For A Nuclear Free Iran, reportedly budgeted upwards of $20 million for a campaign that included flooding the airwaves with television spots; buying full-page newspaper ads, arranging fly-ins of AIPAC members to Washington, organizing demonstrations at offices of AIPAC-friendly members of Congress who were believed to be wavering, and ensuring that problematic legislators were officially warned by precisely the right donor. Rank-and-file AIPAC members were largely irrelevant to the process. Money did the talking, and also the yelling and the cursing when necessary. As one congressional staffer put it to me, “Taking money from AIPAC is like getting a loan from the mob. You better not forget to pay it back. They walk into this office like they own it.” - Source (http://www.thenation.com/article/aipac-spent-millions-of-dollars-to-defeat-the-iran-deal-instead-it-may-have-destroyed-itself/)
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As the article points out, it would be a big mistake to assume AIPAC represents all the Jews and Israeli's. Quite to the contrary, they don't...anymore that the religious right of the GOP represents all Americans. AIPAC has been like a disease in American politics. I'm glad to see it take a hit.

Peter1469
09-14-2015, 06:28 AM
Israel is able to defend itself, if it really feels threatened. We don't need to do it for them.

Mac-7
09-14-2015, 09:25 AM
Israel is able to defend itself, if it really feels threatened. We don't need to do it for them.

Obumer is now defending Iran which prevents Israel from defending itself.

Peter1469
09-14-2015, 09:28 AM
Obumer is now defending Iran which prevents Israel from defending itself.

No it doesn't.

Mac-7
09-14-2015, 09:29 AM
No it doesn't.

If Israel has to battle US warplanes on its way to Iran then obumer certainly is preventing Israel from defending itself.

Peter1469
09-14-2015, 09:35 AM
If Israel has to battle US warplanes on its way to Iran then obumer certainly is preventing Israel from defending itself.

Why do you think Israel would have to battle US warplanes?

Do you think Obama would tell the military to oppose Israel? Do you think the military would listen to Obama if he said such a thing?

Mac-7
09-14-2015, 10:46 AM
Why do you think Israel would have to battle US warplanes?

Do you think Obama would tell the military to oppose Israel? Do you think the military would listen to Obama if he said such a thing?

There were reports out of Kuwait that US aircraft would attack Israeli jets if they used thst airspace going to Iran

Peter1469
09-14-2015, 10:48 AM
There were reports out of Kuwait that US aircraft would attack Israeli jets if they used thst airspace going to Iran

There was one newspaper that reported that. I don't believe it.

Anyway, Israel doesn't need to use planes if it really thinks Iran will destroy it with a nuclear weapon. They have some already.