View Full Version : Clinton Super PAC Attacks Bernie as Dems Double Down on Dark Money
AeonPax
09-17-2015, 05:42 AM
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"Despite all of the high-minded rhetoric put forth by mainstream Democrats to overturn Citizens United and end the influence of money in politics, those very same politicians are increasingly relying on dark money groups to serve as campaign strongmen when the going gets tough.
Less than one week after presidential contender Hillary Clinton presented her plan to overhaul campaign finance, a super PAC representing the Democratic front-runner has begun circulating negative emails bashing rival Sen. Bernie Sanders.
While Clinton herself has abstained from such negativity—and has even praised Sanders saying he's "doing a great job" after recent polling showed the Vermont senator now has a double-digit lead in both Iowa and New Hampshire—the controversial super PAC run by Clinton ally David Brock is on the offense." - Source (http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/09/15/clinton-super-pac-attacks-bernie-dems-double-down-dark-money)
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Proof that;
The Clinton BS machine is running scared. Their snake of a candidate is dropping in popularity.
Bernie Sanders is gaining momentum and voter support.
The Democrats are just a bad as the Republicans. Two sides of the same coin.
hanger4
09-17-2015, 06:51 AM
Just a small point. Super PACs are not dark moneys. PACs must report donors, donations and expenditures. 501 C (4) or (6) do not.
AeonPax
09-17-2015, 07:10 AM
Just a small point. Super PACs are not dark moneys. PACs must report donors, donations and expenditures. 501 C (4) or (6) do not.
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Proof? "In the politics of the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_the_United_States), dark money is a term for funds given to nonprofit organizations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonprofit_organization)—primarily 501(c)(4) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)(4)) (social welfare) and 501(c)(6) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)(6)) (trade association) groups—that can receive unlimited donations from corporations, individuals, and unions, and spend funds to influence elections (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election), but are not required to disclose their donors" - Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_money)
Common
09-17-2015, 07:12 AM
Of course clinton and her supporters are attacking bernie, same as all the other gop candidates are attacking trump. Its campaign season. Clinton wants to win
AeonPax
09-17-2015, 07:20 AM
Of course clinton and her supporters are attacking bernie, same as all the other gop candidates are attacking trump. Its campaign season. Clinton wants to win
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Of course and why not?
a) The Democrats are no different than the Republicans,
b) Clinton went from ignoring Sanders to actually seeing him as a threat to her perceived royal ascendancy as POTUS and
c) Going negative is now the publicly acceptable route for all corrupt politicians.
hanger4
09-17-2015, 10:35 AM
`Proof? "In the politics of the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_the_United_States), dark money is a term for funds given to nonprofit organizations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonprofit_organization)—primarily 501(c)(4) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)(4)) (social welfare) and 501(c)(6) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)(6)) (trade association) groups—that can receive unlimited donations from corporations, individuals, and unions, and spend funds to influence elections (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election), but are not required to disclose their donors" - Source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_money)Wiki is wrong about PACs; .... "Super PACs must, however, report their donors to the Federal Election" .... https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/superpacs.php .... And right about 501 Cs
AeonPax
09-17-2015, 11:23 AM
Wiki is wrong about PACs; .... "Super PACs must, however, report their donors to the Federal Election" .... https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/superpacs.php .... And right about 501 Cs
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I just think you're wrong and will leave it at that.
hanger4
09-17-2015, 11:43 AM
`I just think you're wrong and will leave it at that.Just a heads up, if you believe I'm wrong then you have to believe Opensecrets and the FEC are wrong. 501Cs do not have to disclose donors, PAC's and Super PAC's do as per FEC rules. .... PAC's can have what's called "dark money" in that they have accepted donations from 501C's.
texan
09-17-2015, 02:08 PM
Reports are Joe is all in right now, better save some Billary. Joe is better than you as a candidate, you will need to become witch you are and destroy him to win.
Peter1469
09-17-2015, 02:11 PM
She needs to concern herself with staying out of jail.
texan
09-17-2015, 02:22 PM
She tried joking on Fallon last night, not funny no one really laughed.
The Xl
09-17-2015, 03:27 PM
The fact that someone who should be in jail is a major player to win the presidency is sad.
Bob the Slob
09-17-2015, 04:35 PM
You would have thought she would have learned about acting like a republican/neoliberal when Obama out classed her. Guess she takes her orders from Wall Street and the Zionists, just like bush did.
Common Sense
09-17-2015, 04:36 PM
Zionists? Oh, great....
Bob the Slob
09-17-2015, 04:39 PM
You don't know who the Zionists are? Ever Watch MSNBC with Andrea Mitchell, the wife of former Federal Reserve chair Alan Greenspan and AIPAC member? Ever see her interview with Hillary? You should.
Common Sense
09-17-2015, 04:45 PM
You don't know who the Zionists are? Ever Watch MSNBC with Andrea Mitchell, the wife of former Federal Reserve chair Alan Greenspan and AIPAC member? Ever see her interview with Hillary? You should.
Um, yeah, thanks....I know who some people think are Zionists and I'm well aware of Zionism in general.
I'm just not down with the blame Jews for shit club. But by all means, knock yourself out.
Captain Obvious
09-17-2015, 04:52 PM
Um, yeah, thanks....I know who some people think are Zionists and I'm well aware of Zionism in general.
I'm just not down with the blame Jews for shit club. But by all means, knock yourself out.
oh noooos, not teh jooooooooooooos again...
Common Sense
09-17-2015, 04:57 PM
oh noooos, not teh jooooooooooooos again...
Yup, teh Jooos again.
The Xl
09-17-2015, 05:01 PM
Jews do have quite the powerful lobby and wield a lot of control, I'm not sure how this is debatable. Whether or not Hillary is bought and controlled by them specifically is a different matter, I suppose.
Peter1469
09-17-2015, 05:35 PM
Ivan might bond with this guy.
texan
09-18-2015, 02:47 PM
I do hope the hopefuls for Bernie realize the dem party will never let him headline a presidential ticket.
Tahuyaman
09-18-2015, 11:01 PM
I do hope the hopefuls for Bernie realize the dem party will never let him headline a presidential ticket.
Absolutely correct.
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