Why Obama and Hillary must get rid of Trump

[Bob]

I read the article by Root and by luck found a youtube explanation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRbtf2UFcmc

[Chris]

He speaks of the establishment of both parties rejecting trump.

[Common Sense]

I think most Conservatives and Liberals with an ounce of sanity both agree that Trump has no place in government.

I'd love to see an outsider enter, but Trump is just too dumb.

[Mac-7]

I think most Conservatives and Liberals with an ounce of sanity both agree that Trump has no place in government.

I'd love to see an outsider enter, but Trump is just too dumb.

What you call a conservative in Canada we call a liberal in America.

The establishment in Washington does fear outsiders like trump who are not cogs on their wheel.

[Mark III]

This is the website of the crackpot shill in the video

http://rootforamerica.com/

When you look at that site you will see almost nothing but advertisements and testimonials praising Wayne Allen Root. Seriously, that is 90% of the content.

You see, Wayne Allen root is selling Wayne Allen Root to the suckers. Books, and speaking engagements , for sale. He wants you mopey right wing conspiracy buffs to help him separate you from your money by giving some of it to him. He has a nice suit, so it must be working.

[Mac-7]

Does any liberal apologist for the Muslim born half American golfer in chief not believe that liberals want to bring down trump?

They would have to be crazy to think otherwise

[Mark III]

Does any liberal apologist for the Muslim born half American golfer in chief not believe that liberals want to bring down trump?

They would have to be crazy to think otherwise

Are you up for that birther debate yet? I showed you this morning the letter from the Hawaii Dept of Health verifying his birth certificate. But I will further stomp you if you are up for it.

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. That makes him 100% American, not half.

[Safety]

I read the article by Root and by luck found a youtube explanation.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRbtf2UFcmc

The only person that can get rid of Trump, is Trump.

What happened, no accountability anymore?

[Boris The Animal]

Are you up for that birther debate yet? I showed you this morning the letter from the Hawaii Dept of Health verifying his birth certificate. But I will further stomp you if you are up for it.

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. That makes him 100% American, not half.Obombya is still a 100% @sshole and not my president.

[Chris]

What you call a conservative in Canada we call a liberal in America.

The establishment in Washington does fear outsiders like trump who are not cogs on their wheel.


Untrue. Stephen Harper is more conservative than most Republicans. --Hurry, now, look him up.

[Chris]

This is the website of the crackpot shill in the video

http://rootforamerica.com/

When you look at that site you will see almost nothing but advertisements and testimonials praising Wayne Allen Root. Seriously, that is 90% of the content.

You see, Wayne Allen root is selling Wayne Allen Root to the suckers. Books, and speaking engagements , for sale. He wants you mopey right wing conspiracy buffs to help him separate you from your money by giving some of it to him. He has a nice suit, so it must be working.


Nice ad hom, Mark, you're really good at that.

[Chris]

The only person that can get rid of Trump, is Trump.

What happened, no accountability anymore?

Apparently he's beginning to do a good job of that: Choice questions from Donald Trump’s disastrous Twitter interview (http://qz.com/507333/choice-questions-from-donald-trumps-disastrous-twitter-interview/):


SeaWorld tried it. Author E.L. James tried it. The New York Police Department tried it. Hillary Clinton tried it.

Given the chaos and ridicule that’s come out of almost every earnest, high-profile Twitter interview (#Ask[blank]) thus far, you’d think Donald Trump would know better than to tempt fate with open audience questions. Or not.

Below are some of the most searing questions received by the mogul-turned-politician during his open question session today (Sept. 21), categorized by their particular strain of outrage.

Here's one:

http://i.snag.gy/Ph6Dr.jpg

hehe

[valley ranch]

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By Tamar Yonah
10/12/2008, 12:00 AM

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Someone is lying. According to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room. -This, according to several news sites and Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg (see video below) who is, surprisingly, a life long democrat himself. Berg is the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, and he has an impressive background in his activities as a democrat, but his support for the party seemingly stops when it comes to his trust in Barack Hussein Obama.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/static/blogs/20081012104224.jpgMany U.S. voters are suspicious of the Democratic candidate's past, and Berg filed a lawsuit to force Barack Hussein Obama to produce a certified copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he can run for the office of President of the United States. However, he is being fought. The DNC On Sept. 24 filed a motion to dismiss the Berg action. Why? What is there to hide? Why not produce the original birth certificate and be done with all the suspicions against Barack Hussein Obama?

A few months back, a birth certificate WAS posted on the internet which shows that Obama was born in Hawaii. Yet some say this birth certificate is a forgery and again, his grandmother states that she was present at the birth, in Kenya. So what is the truth?

One explanation is that Obama's mother Ann Dunham, flew to Kenya in 1961 with Obama's father to meet his family. According to some news reports (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBF_enIL275IL275&q=Obama%27s+family+did+not+take+to+Stanley+Ann+Dun ham+Obama+very+well%2c+because+she+was+white%2c+ac cording+to+Sarah+Obama%2e+Shortly+after+she+arrive d+in+Kenya+Stanley+Ann+decided+to+return+to+Hawaii +because+she+later+said%2c+she+did+not+like+how+Mu slim+men+treated+their+wives+in+Kenya%2e+However%2 c+because+she+was+near+term+the+airline+would+not+ let+her+fly+until+after+the+birth+of+her+baby%2e+O bama%27s+grandmother+said+the+baby%e2%80%94Barack+ Hussein+Obama%2c+Jr%2e%e2%80%94was+born+in+Kenya+a nd+that+shortly+after+he+was+born%2c+Stanley+Ann+r eturned+to+Hawaii%2e%22+site:dailypaul%2ecom), Ann Dunham, was not accepted well by her husband's family because she was white:
"Obama's family did not take to Stanley Ann Dunham Obama very well, because she was white, according to Sarah Obama. Shortly after she arrived in Kenya Stanley Ann decided to return to Hawaii because she later said, she did not like how Muslim men treated their wives in Kenya. However, because she was near term the airline would not let her fly until after the birth of her baby. Obama's grandmother said the baby—Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.—was born in Kenya and that shortly after he was born, Stanley Ann returned to Hawaii."

However, by the time she wanted to leave Kenya, it was during the late stages of her pregnancy. She was not able to board a plane because the airlines wouldn't allow women so close to birth to fly. It is instead believed, that Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya as his grandmother apparently stated. Then, after he was born, his mother returned with him to Hawaii where his birth was REGISTERED on or about August 8th, 1961, in the public records office in Hawaii.

There is also a discrepancy in what hospital Barack Hussein Obama was born in, even if he was born in Hawaii. Reports by his own sister in two separate interviews state that he was born at two different hospitals (http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=active&rlz=1T4ADBF_enIL275IL275&q=%22he+was+born+at+two+separate+hospitals--Kapiolani+Hospital+and+Queens+Hospital--in+Honolulu%2C%22+site%3Aglobalresearch.ca&btnG=Search) -- Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu.

The Times Herald even reports (http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20089295): "the senator's grandmother, brother and sister, who live in Kenya, believe they were present during Obama's birth in the African country." Here, the Times Herald uses the word that his family 'believe' he was born in Kenya (perhaps to avoid possible law suits by Obama's Truth Squad?).
Watch this interesting and important video clip.

I myself, not wanting to believe what I see, did some searching around, and this is what I came up with:
Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at the Kapiolani Medical Center (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:Zd5-OcpvxZIJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki%3Ftitle%3DBarack_Obama+%22Obama+was+born+on+A ugust+4,+1961,+at+the+Kapiolani+Medical+Center+%22 +site:en.wikipedia.org&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1).
and here it says:
Barack Obama was born at the Queen's Medical Center (http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:OeESeoIkemoJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Queen%27s_Medical_Center+%22Barack+Obama+was+b orn+at+the+Queen%27s+Medical+Center+on+4+August+19 61%22+site:en.wikipedia.org&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1) on 4 August 1961.
So which hospital was it, or was he really born in Kenya? And why is this simple matter so confusing and disturbing? Do the search your self and plug in these key words:
Obama born Queen's Medical Center and then Obama born Kapiolani Medical Center in a Google search. You will see he is reported to be born in two diferent hospitals. A miracle! Maybe he IS the Messiah (grin).
What's so hard about knowing something so simple as which hospital or country someone was born in? And if it is simple, then why doesn't Barack Hussein Obama just present the court with his original birth certificate to be analysed and proven? The onus of proof is on him, not the American public of which he wants their trust in him to be their leader.
So, who is lying? Barack? His grandmother? His sister? Someone is.
p.s. Dr. Jerome Corsi will be on my show today (Sunday) where I will be interviewing him about his recent trip to Kenya to promote his new book, The Obama Nation (http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Nation-Leftist-Politics-Personality/dp/1416598065)... * Dr. Corsi was not on my show Sunday, his publicist asked to re-schedule.

[Bob]

I think most Conservatives and Liberals with an ounce of sanity both agree that Trump has no place in government.

I'd love to see an outsider enter, but Trump is just too dumb.

We labored with a non trained Jr. Senator. And a lot of people want the establishment gone.

What is wrong having a Billionaire run things? Seems he has done very well running things.

[Mac-7]

Are you up for that birther debate yet? I showed you this morning the letter from the Hawaii Dept of Health verifying his birth certificate. But I will further stomp you if you are up for it.

Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. That makes him 100% American, not half.

What is the point in debating where obumer was born when neither of us knows for sure?

i reject the letter from Hawaii because that is just one stranger's word that we are asked to accept as fact.

Where is the original birth certificate and when will it be examined by non partisan forgery experts for authenticity?

[AeonPax]

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I've never heard of Wayne Allen Root before this. Small wonder; he talks more like a snake oil salesman than anyone with political acumen. What he wants here is to make Trump, part of the lefts problem, not just the rights. Nice strategy but ultimately doomed. The right created Trump and it seems he has quite a core of fervent conservative believers. Let them deal with their own problems. The left has the Hillary problem to contend with.

[Kurmugeon]

Great Video! Thanks!

[Mark III]

Nice ad hom, Mark, you're really good at that.

LOL. I am trying to give you perspective. God knows you need it. You, the supposed all up in there intellectual who wants to discuss the fine points of political philosophy (to death some might say) , now presents yourself as a rube sucker for a pitchman selling you political snake oil.

Everything Root "reveals" in this video is garden variety anti-Obama and anti-liberal conspiracy theory and dimestore rant. There is nothing original or really informative about it. Pick up just about any right wing blog any day of the week and you will see some of this.

Root's website is 90% sales pitch and 10% content. That doesn't concern you as to the reliability of his "veracity" ? Maybe you are not as smart as I gave you credit for. I could go on about Wayne Allen Root but it is probably falling on deaf ears so not worth the effort.

[Mark III]

What is the point in debating where obumer was born when neither of us knows for sure?

i reject the letter from Hawaii because that is just one stranger's word that we are asked to accept as fact.

Where is the original birth certificate and when will it be examined by non partisan forgery experts for authenticity?

It's been quite obvious to me that you are not very bright since I read the first comment of yours that I saw when I started here. That level of aggressive ignorance sticks out in a crowd.

The governor of Hawaii asked the state dept of health to verify Obama's birth certificate in Oct of 2008, shortly prior to the election, because the theme had been so much in the news. The state director of the dept. of health, a republican appointed government official then officially reported that she and another individual had EXAMINED the original long form birth certificate in the state archives, bound in one of hundreds of large books kept in filing cabinets there. She verified that Barack Obama's Hawaii birth certificate existed and was in one of those books, where it had been since 1961.

There are many reasons why birthers are idiots and in most cases , racists, but the letter from the Hawaii dept of Health is a good place to begin and end the conversation.

[Mac-7]

The governor of Hawaii asked the state dept of health to verify Obama's birth certificate in Oct of 2008, shortly prior to the election, because the theme had been so much in the news. The state director of the dept. of health, a republican appointed government official then officially reported that she and another individual had EXAMINED the original long form birth certificate in the state archives, bound in one of hundreds of large books kept in filing cabinets there. She verified that Barack Obama's Hawaii birth certificate existed and was in one of those books, where it had been since 1961.



That all sounds very official.

The political hacks in the state thought of everything needed to reassure obumer worshipers like you that he was born in Hawaii.

But I don't have as much blind faith in elected officials as you do.

[Common Sense]

Even if Obama was born in Kenya (which he wasn't), it would make his situation exactly the same as Cruz's.

Why no outrage at Cruz?

[midcan5]

It really doesn't matter if President Obama were born on the moon, his mother is an American. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham Why anyone still considers this debatable shows only the narrow partisan minds of many Americans. The piece below, 'Dissolve' pretty much covers our nation today - on the right especially. The debate on tPF and other sites are living proof too. It deserves its own thread but no time right now. LOL

"Dissolve The United States' Albert Burneko

"...Many millions of Americans want their next president to be Carly Fiorina — an inept, failed CEO with no experience of public service who spent last night threatening to make war on half the fucking planet. She was like the eighth most irresponsible psychopath on the stage, and the rest of them, down to the least of them, all represent vast constituencies. This isn’t a failure of the political system—this is the political system working, expressing the will of the governed."

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/dissolve-the-united-states-1731354818

http://adequateman.deadspin.com/how-to-hold-elected-office-a-civics-lesson-for-meat-su-1729327742

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/factchecking-the-cnn-republican-debate/
(http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/factchecking-the-cnn-republican-debate/)

"The atmosphere surrounding this problem is terrible. Dense clouds of language lie about the crucial point. It is almost impossible to get through it." Ludwig Wittgenstein

[Mac-7]

Even if Obama was born in Kenya (which he wasn't), it would make his situation exactly the same as Cruz's.

Why no outrage at Cruz?

That is for the learned ambulance chasers to figure out once the facts are known.

There is no question about where Cruz was born but there is about obumer.

[Common Sense]

That is for the learned ambulance chasers to figure out once the facts are known.

There is no question about where Cruz was born but there is about obumer.

Not really.

But why no outrage? Those claiming that Obama was and is ineligible should be saying the same thing about Cruz. Why aren't they I wonder?

[Mac-7]

Not really.

But why no outrage? Those claiming that Obama was and is ineligible should be saying the same thing about Cruz. Why aren't they I wonder?

You should ask mark to supply the outrage.

He's the one harping on obumers birth certificate.

[PolWatch]

Even if Obama was born in Kenya (which he wasn't), it would make his situation exactly the same as Cruz's.

Why no outrage at Cruz?

But, but, but.....Cruz's father fought with Castro....he was originally a Canadian citizen (which seems to be enough to have some here become hysterical). In fact, he was a Canadian citizen when he was elected & sworn in as a US Senator.....the same people who ignore Cruz's birth/citizenship issues are the ones who foam at the mouth over Obama's birth/citizenship.....go figure

' he applied to formally renounce his Canadian citizenship and ceased being a citizen of Canada on May 14, 2014'
wiki

[Common Sense]

But, but, but.....Cruz's father fought with Castro....he was originally a Canadian citizen (which seems to be enough to have some here become hysterical). In fact, he was a Canadian citizen when he was elected & sworn in as a US Senator.....the same people who ignore Cruz's birth/citizenship issues are the ones who foam at the mouth over Obama's birth/citizenship.....go figure

' he applied to formally renounce his Canadian citizenship and ceased being a citizen of Canada on May 14, 2014'
wiki

Hmm, I wonder what the difference is?

[Mac-7]

It really doesn't matter if President Obama were born on the moon, his mother is an American. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham Why anyone still considers this debatable shows only the narrow partisan minds of many Americans. The piece below, 'Dissolve' pretty much covers our nation today - on the right especially. The debate on tPF and other sites are living proof too. It deserves its own thread but no time right now. LOL

"Dissolve The United States' Albert Burneko

"...Many millions of Americans want their next president to be Carly Fiorina — an inept, failed CEO with no experience of public service who spent last night threatening to make war on half the $#@!ing planet. She was like the eighth most irresponsible psychopath on the stage, and the rest of them, down to the least of them, all represent vast constituencies. This isn’t a failure of the political system—this is the political system working, expressing the will of the governed."

http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/dissolve-the-united-states-1731354818

http://adequateman.deadspin.com/how-to-hold-elected-office-a-civics-lesson-for-meat-su-1729327742

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/factchecking-the-cnn-republican-debate/
(http://www.factcheck.org/2015/09/factchecking-the-cnn-republican-debate/)

"The atmosphere surrounding this problem is terrible. Dense clouds of language lie about the crucial point. It is almost impossible to get through it." Ludwig Wittgenstein

Why do I get the impression that Albert Burneko who supplied the quote for midcan5 is a leftwing wacko?

[Mac-7]

But, but, but.....Cruz's father fought with Castro....he was originally a Canadian citizen (which seems to be enough to have some here become hysterical). In fact, he was a Canadian citizen when he was elected & sworn in as a US Senator.....the same people who ignore Cruz's birth/citizenship issues are the ones who foam at the mouth over Obama's birth/citizenship.....go figure

' he applied to formally renounce his Canadian citizenship and ceased being a citizen of Canada on May 14, 2014'
wiki

Granny is just pissed that she won't get a female president in 2016 unless its Carly - who is not a democrat.

too bad.

[Mark III]

[QUOTE=valley ranch;1265316]Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes.

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By Tamar Yonah
10/12/2008, 12:00 AM

http://f.a7.org/Resizer.ashx/news/136/136/503310.jpg?autocrop=1 Tamar Yonah

Tamar Yonah hosts the most popular English speaking radio talk-show in... ► More from this writer

(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Blog.aspx/3)
Someone is lying. According to Obama's Kenyan (paternal) grandmother, as well as his half-brother and half-sister, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as the Democratic candidate for president claims. His grandmother bragged that her grandson is about to be President of the United States and is so proud because she was present DURING HIS BIRTH IN KENYA, in the delivery room. -This, according to several news sites and Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg (see video below) who is, surprisingly, a life long democrat himself. Berg is the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, and he has an impressive background in his activities as a democrat, but his support for the party seemingly stops when it comes to his trust in Barack Hussein Obama.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/static/blogs/20081012104224.jpgMany U.S. voters are suspicious of the Democratic candidate's past, and Berg filed a lawsuit to force Barack Hussein Obama to produce a certified copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he can run for the office of President of the United States. However, he is being fought. The DNC On Sept. 24 filed a motion to dismiss the Berg action. Why? What is there to hide? Why not produce the original birth certificate and be done with all the suspicions against Barack Hussein Obama?

A few months back, a birth certificate WAS posted on the internet which shows that Obama was born in Hawaii. Yet some say this birth certificate is a forgery and again, his grandmother states that she was present at the birth, in Kenya. So what is the truth?

One explanation is that Obama's mother Ann Dunham, flew to Kenya in 1961 with Obama's father to meet his family. According to two different hospitals (http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBF_enIL275IL275&q=Obama's+family+did+not+take+to+Stanley+Ann+Dunha m+Obama+very+well%2c+because+she+was+white%2c+acco rding+to+Sarah+Obama.+Shortly+after+she+arrived+in +Kenya+Stanley+Ann+decided+to+return+to+Hawaii+bec ause+she+later+said%2c+she+did+not+like+how+Muslim +men+treated+their+wives+in+Kenya.+However%2c+beca use+she+was+near+term+the+airline+would+not+let+he r+fly+until+after+the+birth+of+her+baby.+Obama's+g randmother+said+the+baby—Barack+Hussein+Obama%2c+J r.—was+born+in+Kenya+and+that+shortly+after+he+was +born%2c+Stanley+Ann+returned+to+Hawaii.) -- Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu.

The Times Herald even reports (http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20089295): "the senator's grandmother, brother and sister, who live in Kenya, believe they were present during Obama's birth in the African country." Here, the Times Herald uses the word that his family 'believe' he was born in Kenya (perhaps to avoid possible law suits by Obama's Truth Squad?).
Watch this interesting and important video clip.

I myself, not wanting to believe what I see, did some searching around, and this is what I came up with:
Obama was born on August 4, 1961,


Someone is lying.

Yes. You.

Read this carefully.

http://www.thefogbow.com/birther-claims-debunked1/three-theories/born-in-kenya/

"Claim: His Grandmother says she was born in Kenya, that she held him, that she helped with the birth. I saw the video.
The infamous "Grandmother Tape" has long been debunked, but it won't go away. Sarah Obama (step-grandmother, not aunt) never said Obama was born in Kenya, that she held him, or that he was born in Mombasa, and she never signed any affidavits sworn or otherwise. She said repeatedly that he was born in Hawaii, in the United States.
The tape was made under false pretenses, by people who believed that Obama was born in Kenya and tried to trap Sarah Obama. Sarah Obama was asked (via translator as she doesn't speak English) if she was present in Kenya when Obama was born. That was translated as "were you here in Kenya when Obama was born?", not were you in the same place as Obama when he was born. The next question made clear the error -- Was he born in Mombasa? Answer -- “No! Obama was not born in Mombasa!” She insisted that Obama was born in Hawaii. Repeatedly. The full tape makes that clear, the tape that was posted on youtube ended abruptly after the original question (in other words was dishonest).She never said she was proud to be at his birth, she never said she held him, she never says she was in the same place.




Sarah Obama has always said that she met Obama as an adult (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf6qSB6Lt4w). She has related first hearing about the birth months later in a letter, and meeting Obama for the first time when he visited his father's grave in 1988.
Listen to the whole tape yourself (http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/03/sarah-obama-speaks/). Read the transcript (http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/03/sarah-obama-speaks/). Compare the "affidavits" (http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2010/06/mcraeshuhubia-affidavit-comparison.html) from the people who set the interview up. Discover the truth for yourself. "


The "grandmother" actually makes it quite clear that Obama was born in Hawaii , and that she was not present at the birth, but the birthers who posted the You Tube video edited the entire response to make it say something that was not true ( the inaccurate response occurred due to the poor translation of the question). This line of birtherism is completely debunked, and here you are dredging it up.

[Mac-7]

MarkIII is the real birther on this forum.

He just can't let go of the idea that many people question the American pedigree of his dear leader.

[Mark III]

That all sounds very official.

The political hacks in the state thought of everything needed to reassure obumer worshipers like you that he was born in Hawaii.

But I don't have as much blind faith in elected officials as you do.


I am happy with your continual demonstration that you are an idiot. Which you do all day every day.

If you ever want to "debate" the birther precepts, let me know.

[Mac-7]

I am happy with your continual demonstration that you are an idiot. Which you do all day every day.

If you ever want to "debate" the birther precepts, let me know.

You can't debate what you don't really know.

and you have never seen obumers birth certificate and would not know a forgery from the real thing if you did see it.

[Bob]

I think most Conservatives and Liberals with an ounce of sanity both agree that Trump has no place in government.

I'd love to see an outsider enter, but Trump is just too dumb.

Dumb you say?

A Billionaire and the man is called dumb?

ROFLMAO

:smiley_ROFLMAO: