Conservative Dissent Brewing Within The Vatican

[Subdermal]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/a-conservative-revolt-is-brewing-inside-the-vatican/2015/09/07/1d8e02ba-4b3d-11e5-80c2-106ea7fb80d4_story.html

This is not a surprise. There is another story courtesy of a retired Cardinal's memoirs that there was a concerted effort by lieberals to remove Pope Benedict and instill this Pope.

More on that later.

[Peter1469]

Interesting.

[TrueBlue]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/a-conservative-revolt-is-brewing-inside-the-vatican/2015/09/07/1d8e02ba-4b3d-11e5-80c2-106ea7fb80d4_story.html

This is not a surprise. There is another story courtesy of a retired Cardinal's memoirs that there was a concerted effort by lieberals to remove Pope Benedict and instill this Pope.

More on that later.

And it sure looks like they SUCCEEDED didn't they! More Power To Them!! http://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/ahswen/3.gifhttp://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/ahswen/4.gif

[Boris The Animal]

And it sure looks like they SUCCEEDED didn't they! More Power To Them!! http://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/ahswen/3.gifhttp://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/ahswen/4.gifOnly because Francis is a whacked out Communist like you.

[Common]

The Catholic church playing politics in the Vatican is no surprise, thats been reported many times over the years. This pope is quite liberal and it remains to be seen how he will fare in the long run.

This pope is playing to the largest single group of active Catholics left and thats Hispanics. Thats why I believe hes getting politically involved in our immigration.

[Peter1469]

It is longer than years. More like a 1000+ years.

[exotix]

Lemme guess, conservatives in the Vatican means the practice of medieval Christianity.

[Peter1469]

lol

What is you favorite color, Exo?

[exotix]

lol

What is you favorite color, Exo?Flowing Robe red ... LOL

http://www.stpeterslist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/640x428xCardinal-Burke-Cappa-Magna-Featured-640x428.jpg.pagespeed.ic.C3BU6GE53a.jpg

[Tahuyaman]

What is it about dissent that liberals can't handle?

[Tahuyaman]

lol

What is you favorite color, Exo?

Fucia.

[Subdermal]

What is it about dissent that liberals can't handle?

The dissent part.

I guess we can put to rest the claim that the Pope isn't political. The evidence indicates that Francis became Pope precisely and only because of politics.

The claim of a liberal coup at the Vatican (http://www.oldguardaudio.com/2015/09/27/powerline-daily-digest-the-mystery-of-pope-francis-was-there-a-vatican-coup/)


The Mystery of Pope Francis: Was There a Vatican Coup? (http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/powerlineblog/livefeed/~3/m9_V2AANZQU/the-mystery-of-pope-francis-was-there-a-vatican-coup.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email)Posted: 27 Sep 2015 11:22 AM PDT(Steven Hayward)
One thing that that has puzzled a lot of people since the selection of Pope Francis two years ago is how a left-leaning Pope could succeed two very serious conservative Popes—John Paul II and Benedict XVI—who you would have thought had stacked the ranks of the Cardinals with clergy that would perpetuate their theological and philosophical outlook. Was Benedict hounded out of office by some kind of internal Vatican scandal perhaps? Was there some ecclesiastical version of a coup?
There’s no evidence that I’m aware of—until now. Three days ago the National Catholic Register ran a very curious article about the contents of a newly published authorized biography of retired Belgian cardinal Godfried Danneels. The Register article (http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/cardinal-danneels-part-of-mafia-club-opposed-to-benedict-xvi) reports:
Further serious concerns are being raised about Cardinal Godfried Danneels, one of the papal delegates chosen to attend the upcoming Ordinary Synod on the Family, after the archbishop emeritus of Brussels confessed this week to being part of a radical “mafia” reformist group opposed to Benedict XVI. . .
At the launch of the book in Brussels this week, the cardinal said (http://nieuws.vtm.be/binnenland/159605-danneels-zat-soort-maffiaclub) he was part of a secret club of cardinals opposed to Pope Benedict XVI.
He called it a “mafia” club that bore the name of St. Gallen. The group wanted a drastic reform of the Church, to make it “much more modern”, and for Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio to head it. The group, which also comprised Cardinal Walter Kasper and the late Jesuit Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, has been documented in Austen Ivereigh’s biography of Pope Francis,The Great Reformer. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1627791574/amazon0156-20/)
Over at The American Conservative (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-anti-benedict-conspiracy/), Rod Dreher has gone to the trouble of translating an Italian report that is even more curious:
The Italian Vaticanist Marco Tosatti writes (http://www.lastampa.it/2015/09/24/blogs/san-pietro-e-dintorni/francesco-elezione-preparata-da-anni-PAu2giegWwslaElPmNfC1L/pagina.html)(in Italian; I’ve modified the Google translation):
The election of Jorge Bergoglio was the result of secret meetings that cardinals and bishops, organized by Carlo Maria Martini, held for years in St. Gallen, Switzerland. This, according to Jürgen Mettepenningen et Karim Schelkens, authors of a newly published biography of the Belgian Cardinal Godfried Danneels, who calls the group of cardinals and bishops a “Mafia club”.
Danneels according to the authors, worked for years to prepare for the election of Pope Francis, which took place in 2013. Danneels, moreover, in a video recorded during the presentation of the book in Brussels, admits that he was part of a secret club of cardinals who opposed Joseph Ratzinger. Laughing, he calls it “a Mafia club that bore the name of St. Gallen”.
The group wanted a drastic reform of the Church, much more modern and current, with Jorge Bergoglio, Pope Francis, as its head. They got what they wanted. Besides Danneels and Martini, the group according to the book were part of the Dutch bishop Adriaan Van Luyn, the German cardinal Walter Kasper and Karl Lehman, the Italian Cardinal Achille Silvestrini and British Basil Hume, among others.
I underscore that this is not some secretly sourced claim, but it’s from an advance copy of Cardinal Danneels’ official biography, approved by himself.
This is the first confirmation of rumors that had been going around for years about Benedict being thwarted by a liberal conspiracy, one that eventually forced him out. These men — Danneels, Van Luyn, Kasper, Lehman, and Hume, at least — all preside over dying churches. And they killed the Benedict papacy.
This might explain a few things. . .

[Common]

lol

What is you favorite color, Exo?

Troll Color

[Common]

This pope like all popes before him take positions. One of the things the Catholic Church does that brings criticism from other religions like Greek and Russian Orthodox is that it changes to accomodate to the current trends instead of staying true to its faith.

This pope has been more in the spotlight and labeled political "HERE" in america, I bet its not so most everywhere else. Hes caught up in this country crippling right left tug of war we have going on. That has left this country at a standstill and has created more poor and less middleclass than ever before.

[Ransom]

The Pope isn't caught up in American politics, he's been on message as an advocate for the poor.

Not a nation where our 'poverty' communities are experiencing an obesity problem. The Pope kisses babies in this country, none with their bellies stuck to their backs. Don't get hysterical.

[Adelaide]

All Popes are political and they always have been - they all just choose their pet projects differently on how they interpret both their position and the teachings of the Church. More liberal Catholics opposed John Paul II and Benedict XVI. It's hardly surprising that conservative Catholics find Francis to be too liberal.

Luckily for them Francis has expressed a desire to retire from his position after a few years for various reasons. He doesn't plan to die in his position.