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Kurmugeon
10-12-2015, 03:15 PM
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/Democrats-can-choose-sanders-momentum


September 02, 2015, 06:30 am
Dems can choose either Sanders's momentum or Clinton's FBI investigation

By H.A. Goodman, contributor

Imagine in 2012, after President Obama defeated Republican nominee Mitt Romney, that Democrats would have another chance at winning the White House in 2016. This time, however, one Democratic challenger would endure headlines like this one from Politico: "Judge says Hillary Clinton's private emails violated policy." The other Democratic candidate would create enough enthusiasm for The Washington Post to write: "100,000 people have come to recent Bernie Sanders rallies. How does he do it?" Democrats today have two choices, and the future of the Democratic Party, as well as the nation, is at stake.

Will Democrats roll the dice on Election Day with a candidate at the heart of an FBI investigation (pertaining to emails and a private server) and who accepted $100,000 in donations from Donald Trump for the Clinton Foundation? Or, will the Democratic Party rally around a genuine progressive who just received the Congressional Award from the Veterans of Foreign Wars and a man with the most comprehensive racial justice platform in 2016? After all, a future with Republican contender Trump leading this country could be the result of Democrats picking the wrong nominee. Therefore, it's important to analyze the two choices for Democratic nominee, especially since a battle for the soul of the Democratic Party is currently taking place. In reality, there are only two choices that progressives have in 2016.

1. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) isn't only drawing enormous crowds; he's within 7 percentage points of Clinton in Iowa, he's surpassed Clinton in New Hampshire, he beats Trump in a general election and people around the country him.
Sanders is energizing a base of Democrats and progressives around the country who've longed for a clear distinction between both parties. His momentum is only beginning, and with greater name recognition, the Vermont senator can duplicate what he's done in Iowa and New Hampshire throughout the country. Although naysayers believe that progressives in Iowa and New Hampshire aren't representative of a more diverse group of Democrats in places like South Carolina, such thinking is flawed. A prime example of why Sanders will continue to surge throughout the nation is found in...



I would add, the likelihood is that Hillary will meltdown and collapse of a stroke under the pressures of the campaign, particularly in a debate with Trump.

Trump will be the "Death of Her", both figuratively, and possibly literally.

The only reasonable, realistic, and good candidate the Democrats have, is Jim Webb, .... but he is being ignored by the establishment MSM and Democratic Party Machinery.

The Establishment controllers of the Democratic Party can now see that Hillary is a lost cause. So they've doubled down on their "Shift to the Left", in placing their hopes behind the Socialist Candidate Bernie Sanders.

I am a decades long Registered Democrat who is Horrified and Astounded at what Obama and Crew have managed to transform the once egalitarian and common man centered Democratic Party into.

J.F. Kennedy would be tossed out of today's Democratic Party as a "Right Wing Racists and Extremist!".

As someone who wants to see the corrupt power of the anti-white RACIST Democratic Party broken and discarded, I am actually glad to see Jim Webb ignored, even though he is the only Democratic Presidential Candidate I'd be even remotely interested in voting for.

If Jim Webb had the slightest of chances to win the 2016 election, I might be tempted to give the Democrats another chance.

I do NOT want to live under the yoke of Sander's Socialism.

Why on earth did the Democratic Party double down on their "Shift to the Left"?

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Cigar
10-12-2015, 03:24 PM
Don't really care, just as long as the GOP Candidate gets beat next November. :grin:

Kurmugeon
10-12-2015, 03:30 PM
Don't really care, just as long as the GOP Candidate gets beat next November. :grin:

:rollseyes:

I think you under-estimate the position the Democrats have placed themselves into...

There are large percentages of Registered Democrats like myself, who will likely never vote for a Democrat again.

I did not leave the Democratic Party, Bill Richardson, and the Democratic Party fired me, ended my 27 year career, and accused me of both "Privilege" and "Racism", simply based on the fact that I was born white and male.

They never even looked once at my education, accomplishments, background, upbringing, hard work, dedication, or my outspoken stands against any form of racism or sexism. They summarily "Judged" based solely on my race and gender.

There is a reckoning coming to the Left, and it cannot come too soon, or be too harsh.

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Cigar
10-12-2015, 03:35 PM
:rollseyes:

I think you under-estimate the position the Democrats have placed themselves into...

There are large percentages of Registered Democrats like myself, who will likely never vote for a Democrat again.

I did not leave the Democratic Party, Bill Richardson, and the Democratic Party fired me, ended my 27 year career, and accused me of both "Privilege" and "Racism", simply based on the fact that I was born white.

They never even looked once at my accomplishments, background, upbringing, hard work, dedication, or my outspoken stands against any form of racism or sexism. They summarily "Judged" based solely on my race and gender.

There is a reckoning coming to the Left, and it cannot come too soon, or be too harsh.

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Personally I never Vote for people who openly and publicly disrespects me, my family and my friends, all while never even knowing me.

Your milage may vary ... that's why is always good to have a 9.5 and 5 Million Vote margin and demographics on your side.

Kurmugeon
10-12-2015, 03:39 PM
Personally I never Vote for people who openly and publicly disrespects me, my family and my friends, all while never even knowing me.

...

Who has disrespected you?

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Peter1469
10-12-2015, 03:42 PM
The party that does not promise cradle to grave assistance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5xaZB8AgAQ

Cigar
10-12-2015, 03:43 PM
Who has disrespected you?

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Sorry, I'm not going to play that game with you.

I'm just one (1) Voter with one (1) Vote and I'll use it the way I want to, then watch the tally on Election Night, just like I always had.

Kurmugeon
10-12-2015, 03:51 PM
The party that does not promise cradle to grave assistance.


I can live without the Governments "Assistance".

I cannot excel and achieve to the level of my drive, talents, and ambition, when I'm being systematically discriminated against because of the accident of my birth race and gender.

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TrueBlue
10-12-2015, 03:51 PM
Don't you dare believe what the right is trying to push off on you! Poll after poll after poll gives Hillary Clinton A Very Strong And Most Comfortable Lead! She is doing quite well despite now desperate efforts by the right to try to say otherwise. Each time I hear that she is doing poorly or faces an uncertain future, etc. I just have to shake my head and laugh at the sheer desperation by those on the right to try to discredit her as they are now running not just scared but in Full Panic Mode due to her continuing popularity among the American people.

As for her facing legal troubles, again, that is untrue. The Department of Justice has already declared that she did nothing wrong and other known investigators have backed that up as well. Therefore, Hillary will continue to do great and climb even higher in the polls as time goes on. We fully expect her to emerge as the Democratic candidate for president and then go on to Win the White House in 2016! We then will expect full apologies from the right especially since McCarthy has already revealed the plot to target her and another insider has spoken to the same. Right-Wingers may not be seeing the fact that their ass is grass if this charade continues.

Cigar
10-12-2015, 03:57 PM
Don't you dare believe what the right is trying to push off on you! Poll after poll after poll gives Hillary Clinton A Very Strong And Most Comfortable Lead! She is doing quite well despite now desperate efforts by the right to try to say otherwise. Each time I hear that she is doing poorly or faces an uncertain future, etc. I just have to shake my head and laugh at the sheer desperation by those on the right to try to discredit her as they are now running not just scared but in Full Panic Mode due to her continuing popularity among the American people.

As for her facing legal troubles, again, that is untrue. The Department of Justice has already declared that she did nothing wrong and other known investigators have backed that up as well. Therefore, Hillary will continue to do great and climb even higher in the polls as time goes on. We fully expect her to emerge as the Democratic candidate for president and then go on to Win the White House in 2016! We then will expect full apologies from the right especially since McCarthy has already revealed the plot to target her and another insider has spoken to the same. Right-Wingers may not be seeing the fact that their ass is grass if this charade continues.


The Right would like to have some company in their turmoil, anger and bitterness ... but in reality, it all belongs to them, by themselves all by themself.

TrueBlue
10-12-2015, 03:59 PM
:rollseyes:

I think you under-estimate the position the Democrats have placed themselves into...

There are large percentages of Registered Democrats like myself, who will likely never vote for a Democrat again.

I did not leave the Democratic Party, Bill Richardson, and the Democratic Party fired me, ended my 27 year career, and accused me of both "Privilege" and "Racism", simply based on the fact that I was born white and male.

They never even looked once at my education, accomplishments, background, upbringing, hard work, dedication, or my outspoken stands against any form of racism or sexism. They summarily "Judged" based solely on my race and gender.

There is a reckoning coming to the Left, and it cannot come too soon, or be too harsh.

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So, in essence, for you this is a 'revenge thing' to wish the Democrats to do badly due to what happened personally to you. In the first place, we would need to verify what you are saying. Can you offer proof as back-up? Absent that, we can see clearly as to where you're coming from on this.

TrueBlue
10-12-2015, 04:10 PM
The Right would like to have some company in their turmoil, anger and bitterness ... but in reality, it all belongs to them, by themselves all by themself.
You've nailed it, Cigar! You've nailed it quite well my friend! http://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/yahoo/113.gif

Peter1469
10-12-2015, 04:25 PM
pantssuit@clintonemail.com :laugh:


Don't you dare believe what the right is trying to push off on you! Poll after poll after poll gives Hillary Clinton A Very Strong And Most Comfortable Lead! She is doing quite well despite now desperate efforts by the right to try to say otherwise. Each time I hear that she is doing poorly or faces an uncertain future, etc. I just have to shake my head and laugh at the sheer desperation by those on the right to try to discredit her as they are now running not just scared but in Full Panic Mode due to her continuing popularity among the American people.

As for her facing legal troubles, again, that is untrue. The Department of Justice has already declared that she did nothing wrong and other known investigators have backed that up as well. Therefore, Hillary will continue to do great and climb even higher in the polls as time goes on. We fully expect her to emerge as the Democratic candidate for president and then go on to Win the White House in 2016! We then will expect full apologies from the right especially since McCarthy has already revealed the plot to target her and another insider has spoken to the same. Right-Wingers may not be seeing the fact that their ass is grass if this charade continues.