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Common
10-28-2015, 09:50 AM
I agree with this and especially the bolded paragraphs, this is a black harvard professor. The article is longer and there is a video.

Despite President Obama's two election victories, the nation has become increasingly racially divided in its politics and "tribal" in its voting patterns, according to the president's election pollster.

"We've come a long way in a lot of different ways around race in this country, but if you look at our voting patterns, we're as segregated in how we vote today as we were 40-some years ago," said Cornell Belcher, president of Brilliant Corners Research & Strategies (http://www.iop.harvard.edu/cornell-belcher) and a Harvard University fellow.


In a video for the school's Institute of Politics (http://www.iop.harvard.edu/) to tout his study group, "Tribal America – Racial Polarization in the American," the respected and influential pollster said that Obama's election inspired minorities, but also pushed whites away.

"There was a spike in enthusiasm around minorities that was helping propel the president, but there was also a spike in the other direction around the heightened sort of racial aversion among segments of the electorate that was working in the opposite direction," he explained

And there's a bifurcation, where you have more minorities voting one way and more whites voting the other way. To me it becomes problematic as we move forward because how do we win the future when we are so segregated and continue to be increasingly segregated in sort of our politics and voting pattern and we are becoming more tribal at the level of voting," he added.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama-pollster-voters-divided-in-tribes-politics-increasingly-segregated-tribal/article/2575073

Safety
10-28-2015, 09:56 AM
I agree with this and especially the bolded paragraphs, this is a black harvard professor. The article is longer and there is a video.

Despite President Obama's two election victories, the nation has become increasingly racially divided in its politics and "tribal" in its voting patterns, according to the president's election pollster.

"We've come a long way in a lot of different ways around race in this country, but if you look at our voting patterns, we're as segregated in how we vote today as we were 40-some years ago," said Cornell Belcher, president of Brilliant Corners Research & Strategies (http://www.iop.harvard.edu/cornell-belcher) and a Harvard University fellow.


In a video for the school's Institute of Politics (http://www.iop.harvard.edu/) to tout his study group, "Tribal America – Racial Polarization in the American," the respected and influential pollster said that Obama's election inspired minorities, but also pushed whites away.

"There was a spike in enthusiasm around minorities that was helping propel the president, but there was also a spike in the other direction around the heightened sort of racial aversion among segments of the electorate that was working in the opposite direction," he explained

And there's a bifurcation, where you have more minorities voting one way and more whites voting the other way. To me it becomes problematic as we move forward because how do we win the future when we are so segregated and continue to be increasingly segregated in sort of our politics and voting pattern and we are becoming more tribal at the level of voting," he added.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama-pollster-voters-divided-in-tribes-politics-increasingly-segregated-tribal/article/2575073


Just take a look at some of the comments here from "conservatives", how would a minority feel welcome in a party with members who disparage them every chance they get?

Common
10-28-2015, 10:14 AM
Just take a look at some of the comments here from "conservatives", how would a minority feel welcome in a party with members who disparage them every chance they get?

Thats what the article addressed the divide in voters and its become more delineated since Obama got elected.
Obama getting elected was the beginning of the end of the race card or calling someone or something racist having an affect.

An old vet yesterday in the VFW said Im sick of hearing racist this racist that. How the fuck can this country be that much racist if a black president got elected twice. Uhhh no one had an answer for that.

Safety
10-28-2015, 10:20 AM
Thats what the article addressed the divide in voters and its become more delineated since Obama got elected.
Obama getting elected was the beginning of the end of the race card or calling someone or something racist having an affect.

An old vet yesterday in the VFW said Im sick of hearing racist this racist that. How the fuck can this country be that much racist if a black president got elected twice. Uhhh no one had an answer for that.

Because that is part of the anger espoused on the right, the majority of the country (300 million) do not agree with their mindset. They can't speak out about it publically what they really want to say, so they are regulated to anonymity of the internet and social media. The majority of the country isn't racist, but that does not mean there is not a large segment of racism.

Common
10-28-2015, 10:29 AM
Because that is part of the anger espoused on the right, the majority of the country (300 million) do not agree with their mindset. They can't speak out about it publically what they really want to say, so they are regulated to anonymity of the internet and social media. The majority of the country isn't racist, but that does not mean there is not a large segment of racism.

Some of that is true, but lets be honest, Holder put out a perception that pissed alot of america off. Obama misteps in the begining also did the same. Like when he said the white sgt acted stupidly when dealing with his friend the professor. Obama speaks out often on black tragedies and is silent on white ones and that comes from my observations.

All the cops that have been killed in the years obama has been president, he chose the death of Officer Holder to defend police. Al Sharpton also siezed the moment to make a play. That stuff doesnt go unnoticed and that stuff creates animosity.

Theres two sides to every story Safety on this one of the most contentious issues both sides are dug in that they believe they are right.

Safety
10-28-2015, 10:41 AM
Some of that is true, but lets be honest, Holder put out a perception that pissed alot of america off. Obama misteps in the begining also did the same. Like when he said the white sgt acted stupidly when dealing with his friend the professor. Obama speaks out often on black tragedies and is silent on white ones and that comes from my observations.

All the cops that have been killed in the years obama has been president, he chose the death of Officer Holder to defend police. Al Sharpton also siezed the moment to make a play. That stuff doesnt go unnoticed and that stuff creates animosity.

Theres two sides to every story Safety on this one of the most contentious issues both sides are dug in that they believe they are right.

Yes, that could be a valid perception to have. On the other hand, let's take a look at the incidences that took place in which Obama spoke out about. Were they random acts of violence, or was it a national story that due to the social environment was highly controversial? Obviously, he was dealing with his friend in a situation that is a pretty common experience for people of color, and I don't recall anywhere he mentioned the skin color of the sgt involved.

This is the disconnect and conundrum faced on this board, there are many who want to bash the Obama over relating to personal issues experienced by a large segment of society, then we have other members who like to bring up memes about "what has obama done for blacks".....

Common Sense
10-28-2015, 11:44 AM
His election certainly did push some people. It pushed them to be more open about their racism.