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patrickt
08-28-2012, 07:40 AM
"Some Republicans have criticized their presidential candidate Mitt Romney for being aloof, for not opening up enough. But in an interview with Politico (http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=65A01627-8694-4E26-A02E-1C0784060D25), the former Massachusetts governor offers no apologies for what some have called a cool, analytical style. “I know there are some people who do a very good job acting and pretend they’re something they’re not,” he said. As for himself, “you get what you see. I am who I am,” Romney said."
Read more on Newsmax.com: Romney: ‘I Am Who I Am’ (http://www.newsmax.com/US/romney-gop-election-tampa/2012/08/27/id/449856#ixzz24qNUJuDp)

I don't know how but I'm sure the mainstream media and the other shills for President Obama will say this is another example of Gov. Romney being a racist. I see it as another zinger. He didn't have to add, "Unlike those who are anyone you want when it's convenient." Of course, it is tough when you're a racist and a communist and an elitist and a millionaire pretending to be a common man like Gov. Romney's opponent.

Trinnity
08-28-2012, 08:21 AM
Heard that. No one really knows who Barack Obama is. His background and personality are so convoluted and shrouded in mystery and unknowns, it's anybody's guess.

http://www.jeffhead.com/obama/obama-sealed.jpg

I find it gratifying that Obama's goons have tried SO hard to get dirt or some notion of incompetence on Romney and they can't. On the other hand, Obama can't run on his record, which is a failure. HE is a failure. He's made us worse off. I do think he will lose this election and by about 5 points.

Smartmouthwoman
08-28-2012, 08:53 AM
Surely we've had enough of glib speakers and glittery candidates for awhile. I find Romney's laid-back style reassuring... he's nobody's puppet.

Trinnity
08-28-2012, 09:08 AM
Surely we've had enough of glib speakers and glittery candidates for awhile. I find Romney's laid-back style reassuring... he's nobody's puppet."Puppet" is the word I think of when I think of Obama.

He's the puppet of Valerie Jarrett, who plans all hims movements and actions. He's a puppet for George Soros, for the manipulation of markets.
He's the puppet of NBC because they prop him up and return he makes that corporation richer. He's the puppet of unions, both public and private, he's a puppet of the environmental lobby which uses him and which he uses in return to gain ever more state control over the citizens' liberties.
And above all else, he's the puppet of the powerful unseen individuals who are not in the news but pull the biggest strings in the background.

He's arrogant, condescending, narcissistic, manipulative, dishonest, and a big state/globalist guy, but he's still a puppet.

Smartmouthwoman
08-28-2012, 09:19 AM
"Puppet" is the word I think of when I think of Obama.

He's the puppet of Valerie Jarrett, who plans all hims movements and actions. He's a puppet for George Soros, for the manipulation of markets.
He's the puppet of NBC because they prop him up and return he makes that corporation richer. He's the puppet of unions, both public and private, he's a puppet of the environmental lobby which uses him and which he uses in return to gain ever more state control over the citizens' liberties.
And above all else, he's the puppet of the powerful unseen individuals who are not in the news but pull the biggest strings in the background.

He's arrogant, condescending, narcissistic, manipulative, dishonest, and a big state/globalist guy, but he's still a puppet.

Don't hold back, g/f... tell us what you REALLY think of Barack!

ROFLMAO

The worse things get for our country, the happier Obama is.

http://www.politifake.org/image/political/1208/the-welfare-state-obama-2012-election-economy-politics-1344468092.jpg

Cigar
08-28-2012, 09:25 AM
This is an example of mostly old baloney in a new casing. It mainly recycles years-old falsehoods and insinuations, most of which we covered long ago (http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/clueless-columbo/), in connection with an earlier viral email.


But with President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign heating up, this new graphic has appeared on countless anti-Obama websites (https://www.google.com/search?q=abo+2012&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=KKB&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=KeASUNCnCYKY8gSWh4DYBg&ved=0CD8Q_AUoAQ&biw=1467&bih=637#q=abo+2012&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=OKB&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbs=simg:CAQSEgk7BM0P5QV4ECEorNG-HX-mhQ&iact=hc&vpx=197&vpy=164&dur=3903&hovh=168&hovw=299&tx=86&ty=258&sig=115703349945122935786&ei=LeASUNCAH5SG9QTupIH4DA&page=1&tbnh=103&tbnw=183&ved=1t:2220,r:1,s:0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=ce85b5974fcb3edb&biw=1467&bih=637) and in viral emails like the one we’ve reprinted here. Very little that it contains is new, and the old falsehoods have not improved with age.




Nothing ‘Sealed’



The idea that any Obama record is “sealed” is a falsehood, to start. The word “sealed” when applied to documents (http://www.recordgone.com/articles/legal_terms.htm) ordinarily refers to records that would normally be public, but that a judge has ruled cannot be released without the court’s permission. Common examples of truly “sealed” documents include records of crimes committed as a juvenile (http://www.youthlaw.org/fileadmin/ncyl/youthlaw/publications/seal_access_records/Sealing_of_JuvenileRecords_Handout_Alameda.pdf) or records of adoptions (http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/infoaccessap.cfm). None of the claims in this message refers to records actually “sealed” in that usual sense.


In some cases, the records this screed claims are “sealed” are actually public, and open for anyone to see. Other supposedly “sealed” records are normally private documents that Obama hasn’t released — and that other presidential candidates haven’t released either.
So as with earlier versions, this is little more than an attempt to raise suspicions by asking for records that aren’t ordinarily made public, without any evidence that those records contain anything derogatory. We’ll take the claims and questions in the order they appear.



Other Claims



Besides the numbered claims, the graphic also states that Obama has been endorsed by the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). It’s true that the Communist Party USA supports Obama (http://www.cpusa.org/why-vote/). It claims to have about 2,000 members (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/nyregion/leftist-parties-in-new-york-have-new-appeal.html?pagewanted=1). Obama didn’t seek the CPUSA endorsement, nor has he endorsed that group.


The graphic also attributes three quotes to Obama, all of which are commonly offered on conservative websites. All the quotes are accurate. Here’s the background:




http://factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

Yea yea yea we know, Fact-Check is in bed with liberals ... :deadhorse:

But hey, if you want to remain ignorant and spread your ignorance around to the ignorant , it's perfectly fine with me.

Smartmouthwoman
08-28-2012, 09:27 AM
Well look who's here. How's San Fran, Cigar? I see you couldn't resist checking in to defend your hero.

Bless your heart... having fun?

Cigar
08-28-2012, 09:31 AM
Well look who's here. How's San Fran, Cigar? I see you couldn't resist checking in to defend your hero.

Bless your heart... having fun?

I couldn't resist showing some people here some of the bull shit that's on the web ...

Have fun, time for a little breakfast and coffee on the balcony ... dam is it cold here in the morning. :(

coolwalker
08-28-2012, 09:45 AM
Hey Cigar...try to get a copy of any of those records. I don't care what word you use, the records are unavailable.

Goldie Locks
08-28-2012, 09:50 AM
This is an example of mostly old baloney in a new casing. It mainly recycles years-old falsehoods and insinuations, most of which we covered long ago (http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/clueless-columbo/), in connection with an earlier viral email.


But with President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign heating up, this new graphic has appeared on countless anti-Obama websites (https://www.google.com/search?q=abo+2012&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=KKB&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=KeASUNCnCYKY8gSWh4DYBg&ved=0CD8Q_AUoAQ&biw=1467&bih=637#q=abo+2012&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=OKB&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbs=simg:CAQSEgk7BM0P5QV4ECEorNG-HX-mhQ&iact=hc&vpx=197&vpy=164&dur=3903&hovh=168&hovw=299&tx=86&ty=258&sig=115703349945122935786&ei=LeASUNCAH5SG9QTupIH4DA&page=1&tbnh=103&tbnw=183&ved=1t:2220,r:1,s:0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=ce85b5974fcb3edb&biw=1467&bih=637) and in viral emails like the one we’ve reprinted here. Very little that it contains is new, and the old falsehoods have not improved with age.




Nothing ‘Sealed’



The idea that any Obama record is “sealed” is a falsehood, to start. The word “sealed” when applied to documents (http://www.recordgone.com/articles/legal_terms.htm) ordinarily refers to records that would normally be public, but that a judge has ruled cannot be released without the court’s permission. Common examples of truly “sealed” documents include records of crimes committed as a juvenile (http://www.youthlaw.org/fileadmin/ncyl/youthlaw/publications/seal_access_records/Sealing_of_JuvenileRecords_Handout_Alameda.pdf) or records of adoptions (http://www.childwelfare.gov/systemwide/laws_policies/statutes/infoaccessap.cfm). None of the claims in this message refers to records actually “sealed” in that usual sense.


In some cases, the records this screed claims are “sealed” are actually public, and open for anyone to see. Other supposedly “sealed” records are normally private documents that Obama hasn’t released — and that other presidential candidates haven’t released either.
So as with earlier versions, this is little more than an attempt to raise suspicions by asking for records that aren’t ordinarily made public, without any evidence that those records contain anything derogatory. We’ll take the claims and questions in the order they appear.



Other Claims



Besides the numbered claims, the graphic also states that Obama has been endorsed by the Communist Party USA (CPUSA). It’s true that the Communist Party USA supports Obama (http://www.cpusa.org/why-vote/). It claims to have about 2,000 members (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/nyregion/leftist-parties-in-new-york-have-new-appeal.html?pagewanted=1). Obama didn’t seek the CPUSA endorsement, nor has he endorsed that group.


The graphic also attributes three quotes to Obama, all of which are commonly offered on conservative websites. All the quotes are accurate. Here’s the background:




http://factcheck.org/2012/07/obamas-sealed-records/

Yea yea yea we know, Fact-Check is in bed with liberals ... :deadhorse:

But hey, if you want to remain ignorant and spread your ignorance around to the ignorant , it's perfectly fine with me.


So, if they are not sealed, where can we see them?

Mainecoons
08-28-2012, 10:23 AM
No problem, Cigar. List the records we claim that are sealed that are actually open. Be specific now. Let's start with those college records.

Yes, "fact check" is another one of your many mouthpieces. I know, it is hard to keep track of them all.

:grin:

Cigar
08-28-2012, 10:31 AM
Hey Cigar...try to get a copy of any of those records. I don't care what word you use, the records are unavailable.



Claims #1, 2 and 4, college records. Obama’s college records are not “sealed” by a court order, as this graphic would have you believe. It would be illegal under federal law (the (http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/ferpa/index.html)Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974 (http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/fpco/ferpa/index.html)) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without that person’s specific, written permission. Obama hasn’t released them, but neither have other presidential candidates released their college records. George W. Bush’s grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine (http://www.newyorker.com/archive/1999/11/08/1999_11_08_030_TNY_LIBRY_000019458). Bush himself refused to release them, according to a 1999 profile (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072799.htm) in the Washington Post.

I know this may come as a really big surprised for you and few others around here, but guess what, you will not be able to find “anyone’s” personal records on-line (you, me or anyone on this Forum), unless the entities that hold those private records are explicitly given written permission to do so.

Bottom line is; as Ann Romney would say, “We’ve given all you people what you need”.

In other words … go Fuck-Off. :moon:


:wave: Have a nice day. :afro:

URF8
08-28-2012, 11:09 AM
I want to see Cigar's academic records from that Party School he attended. :)

Smartmouthwoman
08-28-2012, 12:35 PM
He talks real brave from SFO... must have some of his buddies watching over his shoulder and he's trying to impress them with his forum prowess.

Must mean the little wife didn't go along... hope he remembers most of the men in SFO are gay before he gets too close to his new buddies.

ROFLMAO

MMC
08-28-2012, 01:03 PM
I couldn't resist showing some people here some of the bull shit that's on the web ...

Have fun, time for a little breakfast and coffee on the balcony ... dam is it cold here in the morning. :(

Oh so that means you wont be showing them where MMC always devastates Liberals of the Democratic party. :laugh: Especially Progressives From SF!!!!! :wink: :grin:

MMC
08-28-2012, 01:05 PM
I want to see Cigar's academic records from that Party School he attended. :)

What about yours? You did say you was in Californification.....Rights? :grin:

URF8
08-28-2012, 01:31 PM
What about yours? You did say you was in Californification.....Rights? :grin:

Which set of records? Undergraduate was average. Professional school was cum laude. Tax school was average.

Jack Fate
08-28-2012, 01:32 PM
I know what happened to Obama's school stuff. The dog at it.

MMC
08-28-2012, 01:41 PM
Which set of records? Undergraduate was average. Professional school was cum laude. Tax school was average.


I meant the most important one.....from the School of Hard Knocks. Much of those hard knocks out in Candyland, is there? :rollseyes:

Agravan
08-28-2012, 03:30 PM
I know what happened to Obama's school stuff. The dog at it.
And then he ate the dog...:yo::rofl:

Captain Obvious
08-28-2012, 05:14 PM
And then he ate the dog...:yo::rofl:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obKLdou0LH0