Colorado ~ Planned Parenthood Attack

[exotix]

*Breaking*

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/report-active-shooter-near-planned-parenthood-colorado-springs-n470431


http://i63.tinypic.com/30tnn5s.jpg

[maineman]

I bet he's a God fearin' Christian...

no. forget that. Tahuyaman said that Christians NEVER commit acts of terrorism in the name of THEIR God. I't's probably a pro-life Buddhist... or Jew.

[Chris]

Regretable.Little is known so let's not jump to conclusions.

[exotix]

Ted Cruz is celebrating ...


https://www.tedcruz.org/news/troy-newman-activist-behind-planned-parenthood-videos-endorses-ted-cruz/

Last week, Ted Cruz promoted (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/cruz-touts-endorsement-radical-anti-choice-activist-troy-newman) the endorsement of Troy Newman, an anti-choice leader who has gone so far as to say that a perfectly biblical society would execute its abortion providers.

Let that sink in for a moment.

Ted Cruz is so thrilled that someone who wants abortion providers to be killed is supporting him that he actually sent out a press release to celebrate the endorsement.

Is that what this Republican primary has come to ?

Presidential candidates applauding -- not denouncing -- these radically extreme positions ?


"We need leaders like Troy Newman."

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/11/25/msnbcs-maddow-explains-violence-endorsing-backg/207090

[decedent]

Ted Cruz is so thrilled that someone who wants abortion providers to be killed is supporting him that he actually sent out a press release to celebrate the endorsement.


How was Ted Cruz to know that somebody would take his words seriously?

[exotix]

How was Ted Cruz to know that somebody would take his words seriously?Let's see if Cruz has the 'nads to tout this attack ....

[JDubya]

How was Ted Cruz to know that somebody would take his words seriously?

How could anyone in the public eye with an ounce of brains between their ears NOT understand that some unstable idiot might very well take their words seriously???

I hope this incident, however it turns out, gets tied to Cruz's tail like a bunch of tin cans.

[exotix]

How could anyone in the public eye with an ounce of brains between their ears NOT understand that some unstable idiot might very well take their words seriously???

I hope this incident, however it turns out, gets tied to Cruz's tail like a bunch of tin cans.Troy Newman has been suspect in several clinic bombings and the murder of several abortionists including the murder of George Tiller but his complicity has never been proved.

[Chris]

Whose words are to be taken seriously? Cruz, a politician? What's he say that's a problem here?

[Cletus]

Well, it looks like this incident is going to make Exotix look like a drooling idiot once again.

Facts are terrible things to some people.

[exotix]

*update*

News Conference happening now ... many casualties ... incident started at Planned Parenthood building ...



http://i66.tinypic.com/n1uhyg.jpg

[Mac-7]

Most conservatives do not condone killing planned parenthood abortion workers.

if protection of innocent human life of unborn human beings is the motivation for this violence the shooter is wrong

[exotix]

Suspect may have explosive devices ... 'long gun' may be AK-47 ...

[Mac-7]

Suspect may have explosive devices ... 'long gun' may be AK-47 ...

Watching the video are liberals angry that the police officers are dressed and equipped as combat soldiers.

Which liberals led by obumer condemned following ferguson.

[Peter1469]

Let's write down the names of those who are jumping to conclusions for their petty politics.

Go.

[maineman]

It couldn't have been a Christian. Why, just last night, Tahuyaman said, and I quote:

"No. Jesus Christ doesn't command Christians to go out and kill"

So... clearly, this shooter can NOT have any Biblical motivation.

It must be a Muslim... that's my latest thought... a Muslim refugee from Syria, probably who got through our inadequate vetting process, no doubt.

[Chris]

It couldn't have been a Christian. Why, just last night, Tahuyaman said, and I quote:

"No. Jesus Christ doesn't command Christians to go out and kill"

So... clearly, this shooter can NOT have any Biblical motivation.

It must be a Muslim... that's my latest thought... a Muslim refugee from Syria, probably who got through our inadequate vetting process, no doubt.





Arguing from unknowns.

[Peter1469]

They guy could have been wanting to rob the bank next door....

[exotix]

Watching the video are liberals angry that the police officers are dressed and equipped as combat soldiers.

Which liberals led by obumer condemned following ferguson.This crap has nothing to do with the current active situation ...

[OGIS]

I bet he's a God fearin' Christian...

no. forget that. @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365) said that Christians NEVER commit acts of terrorism in the name of THEIR God. I't's probably a pro-life Buddhist... or Jew.

Obviously a Mooslime.

Or a drug-crazed pothead.

Yeah, that's the ticket: a marijuana-crazed Mooslime pothead.

[Mister D]

Sheesh...is the kook left this desperate? Yeah, those abortion clinic killings. Whew. Geepers. lol

[hanger4]

This crap has nothing to do with the current active situation ...
You're one to complain. :grin:

[exotix]

*update*

At least 12 injured ... one cop shot in the hand ...

[Mister D]

*update*

At least 12 injured ... one cop shot in the hand ...

That sucks. You must be so disappointed.

[exotix]

They guy could have been wanting to rob the bank next door....
Some people had escaped to the Bank so that was why the initial reports stated it may have been a Bank Robbery ...

[exotix]

That sucks. You must be so disappointed.What's with all the crap-talk ... LOL

[maineman]

I knew those Muslims would do something crazy if we let 'em into our peaceful Mayberry-esque Christian enclave of a country. Christ never told ANY Christian to kill ANYBODY, so it can't be one of US, that's for SURE!

[exotix]

*update*

Bomb Squad has arrived and appears to be setting-up robot ...

[Mac-7]

This crap has nothing to do with the current active situation ...

I'm not sure what you or I can do about the situation

[exotix]

I'm not sure what you or I can do about the situationFirst thing is to contemplate is why on earth would Planned Parenthood be a Gun Free Zone ...

[exotix]

*update*

Witnesses say suspect brought propane tanks inside

[Mac-7]

I knew those Muslims would do something crazy if we let 'em into our peaceful Mayberry-esque Christian enclave of a country. Christ never told ANY Christian to kill ANYBODY, so it can't be one of US, that's for SURE!

This guy is probaby not a muslim

since its a planned parenthood unborn baby chop shop the best bet is that he is Christian.

but that does not excuse muslim violence

[Mac-7]

First thing is to contemplate is why on earth would Planned Parenthood be a Gun Free Zone ...

Because they are wacko libs with a hatred of privately owned guns for self defense

[OGIS]

It couldn't have been a Christian. Why, just last night, @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365) said, and I quote:

"No. Jesus Christ doesn't command Christians to go out and kill"

So... clearly, this shooter can NOT have any Biblical motivation.

It must be a Muslim... that's my latest thought... a Muslim refugee from Syria, probably who got through our inadequate vetting process, no doubt.


Plus, being in Colorado, he must be a crazed pothead.

[exotix]

*Breaking*

Suspect Captured

[zelmo1234]

How could anyone in the public eye with an ounce of brains between their ears NOT understand that some unstable idiot might very well take their words seriously???

I hope this incident, however it turns out, gets tied to Cruz's tail like a bunch of tin cans.

What if a political leader blamed an execution of a US ambassador on video? Wouldn't that put the Video maker in jeopardy? That would seem a little irresponsible as well.

[maineman]

This guy is probaby not a muslim

since its a planned parenthood unborn baby chop shop the best bet is that he is Christian.

but that does not excuse muslim violence

but...but... one of your strongest voices, @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365), clearly stated that Christ never told Christians to go KILL anybody. I'm confused. We're all worried about Syrian refugees getting into America and killing people, but now, if what you say is true, and it IS a Christian, then we've already got killers amongst us who were BORN here and who went to Bible Camp and were raised on the Good Book. Clearly, something is amiss. Maybe, just maybe, some wackos have gotten the word of God all twisted around and are giving the rest of us non-violent Christians a bad name.

Gosh... I wonder if that sort of thing might explain those Islamic extremists as well?

[maineman]

What if a political leader blamed an execution of a US ambassador on video? Wouldn't that put the Video maker in jeopardy? That would seem a little irresponsible as well.

you honestly think N.B Nakoula was actually planning on strolling down the streets of Cairo anytime soon, even if the initial reports about Benghazi were inaccurate? He was in serious jeopardy the minute he made the film.... Salman Rushdie STILL sleeps with one eye open!

[Mister D]

but...but... one of your strongest voices, @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365), clearly stated that Christ never told Christians to go KILL anybody. I'm confused. We're all worried about Syrian refugees getting into America and killing people, but now, if what you say is true, and it IS a Christian, then we've already got killers amongst us who were BORN here and who went to Bible Camp and were raised on the Good Book. Clearly, something is amiss. Maybe, just maybe, some wackos have gotten the word of God all twisted around and are giving the rest of of non-violent Christians a bad name.

Gosh... I wonder if that sort of thing might explain those Islamic extremists as well?

Don't be. Christ didn't say that. That's why we rarely see such a distortion of the Gospel. Can we say the same about Islam? :smiley:

[OGIS]

LOL, a certain other political discussion site is totally in la-la land over this.

[Mac-7]

but...but... one of your strongest voices, @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365), clearly stated that Christ never told Christians to go KILL anybody. I'm confused. We're all worried about Syrian refugees getting into America and killing people, but now, if what you say is true, and it IS a Christian, then we've already got killers amongst us who were BORN here and who went to Bible Camp and were raised on the Good Book. Clearly, something is amiss. Maybe, just maybe, some wackos have gotten the word of God all twisted around and are giving the rest of of non-violent Christians a bad name.

Gosh... I wonder if that sort of thing might explain those Islamic extremists as well?

You are confusing Christ who is perfect with followers of Christ who are not.

As incidents like this remind us there are enough home-grown nuts in America without importing more from the looniest countries in islam

[Mister D]

I guess that's ultimately the point here. See...a Christian attacked someone ergo we should let in a bunch of Syrians. yeah, that makes sense.

[Captain Obvious]

I guess that's ultimately the point here. See...a Christian attacked someone ergo we should let in a bunch of Syrians. yeah, that makes sense.

Never let a crisis go to waste

[maineman]

Don't be. Christ didn't say that. That's why we rarely see such a distortion of the Gospel. Can we say the same about Islam? :smiley:
the vast majority of the world's Muslims are peaceful and God fearing.... yet Americans want to lump them all together. That's just wrong. We hide behind our strong military and all our guns, but we're still frightened little sheep scared of things that go bump in the night. Shame.

[exotix]

LOL, a certain other political discussion site is totally in la-la land over this.Clue us in ... http://s9.tinypic.com/x6bgz_th.jpg

[Captain Obvious]

the vast majority of the world's Muslims are peaceful and God fearing.... yet Americans want to lump them all together. That's just wrong. We hide behind our strong military and all our guns, but we're still frightened little sheep scared of things that go bump in the night. Shame.

And the vast majority of global conflict is rooted in Islam.

Take another swing.

[Mister D]

the vast majority of the world's Muslims are peaceful and God fearing.... yet Americans want to lump them all together. That's just wrong. We hide behind our strong military and all our guns, but we're still frightened little sheep scared of things that go bump in the night. Shame.

That's nice. Allowing Syrian refugees to enter the US is a pointless risk.

[Mister D]

And the vast majority of global conflict is rooted in Islam.

Take another swing.

Little does Captain know I left a blade out in the elements for weeks just for him. :grin:

[Mister D]

Never let a crisis go to waste

This seems particularly desperate.

[maineman]

And the vast majority of global conflict is rooted in Islam.

Take another swing.

there are a lot of muslims on the earth....

the fact remains that the vast majority are indeed peaceful and God fearing.

[Captain Obvious]

there are a lot of muslims on the earth....

the fact remains that the vast majority are indeed peaceful and God fearing.

...and sympathetic to Islamofascism.

[maineman]

...and sympathetic to Islamofascism.

that is patently incorrect.

[Captain Obvious]

that is patently incorrect.

Did you take a survey or something or are you just pulling that out of your ass?

Loaded question.

[OGIS]

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Mister D http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=1345265#post1345265)
I guess that's ultimately the point here. See...a Christian attacked someone ergo we should let in a bunch of Syrians. yeah, that makes sense.



Never let a crisis go to waste

LOL, so... who exactly is saying this again?

Oh, wait, it's 15-seconds-of-fame-mister-d having another psychotic break and wonder voyage into la-la land. Never mind.

[maineman]

Did you take a survey or something or are you just pulling that out of your ass?

Loaded question.

I keep informed. you should try it.

[Captain Obvious]

I keep informed. you should try it.

ok toots

[Mister D]

http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Mister D http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=1345265#post1345265)
I guess that's ultimately the point here. See...a Christian attacked someone ergo we should let in a bunch of Syrians. yeah, that makes sense.




LOL, so... who exactly is saying this again?

Oh, wait, it's 15-seconds-of-fame-mister-d having another psychotic break and wonder voyage into la-la land. Never mind.

Kindly tell us why we're talking about Syrians then by post #16? lol

[maineman]

ok toots
bless your heart.

[Chris]

but...but... one of your strongest voices, @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365), clearly stated that Christ never told Christians to go KILL anybody. I'm confused. We're all worried about Syrian refugees getting into America and killing people, but now, if what you say is true, and it IS a Christian, then we've already got killers amongst us who were BORN here and who went to Bible Camp and were raised on the Good Book. Clearly, something is amiss. Maybe, just maybe, some wackos have gotten the word of God all twisted around and are giving the rest of us non-violent Christians a bad name.

Gosh... I wonder if that sort of thing might explain those Islamic extremists as well?

Knock it off taunting other members,seriously.

[birddog]

The shooter surrendered.

[exotix]

Just In


http://i66.tinypic.com/2afam11.png

[Captain Obvious]

Fetuses lives don't matter

[exotix]

Fetuses lives don't matter
No word from the GOP yet.

[Captain Obvious]

No word from the GOP yet.

They're too busy cranking "Eye of the Tiger"

:biglaugh:

[Cletus]

No word from the GOP yet.

Why should there be?

[OGIS]

Just heard on the live feed from Drudge: one officer has died.

[Chris]

I think PP is behind it. :0

[Peter1469]

rip

[maineman]

Knock it off taunting other members,seriously.

taunting? they were his words. you'd think that having himself quoted would not be considered a "taunt". Now... if I put words in his mouth, like people on here who claim that others are "sympathetic to terrorism", that would be a taunt.

[Mister D]

taunting? they were his words. you'd think that having himself quoted would not be considered a "taunt". Now... if I put words in his mouth, like people on here who claim that others are "sympathetic to terrorism", that would be a taunt.

Genius, he means carrying your vendetta from thread to thread. And you aren't sympathetic to terrorism. Ewe (hat tip to Ransom ) are just a mindless tool.

[OGIS]

but...but... one of your strongest voices, @Tahuyaman (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365), clearly stated that Christ never told Christians to go KILL anybody. I'm confused. We're all worried about Syrian refugees getting into America and killing people, but now, if what you say is true, and it IS a Christian, then we've already got killers amongst us who were BORN here and who went to Bible Camp and were raised on the Good Book. Clearly, something is amiss. Maybe, just maybe, some wackos have gotten the word of God all twisted around and are giving the rest of us non-violent Christians a bad name.

Gosh... I wonder if that sort of thing might explain those Islamic extremists as well?

That is an excellent point. If the shooter is a RWNJ born-again evangelical Christian (possibly even a Dominionist) then it puts a cloud of suspicion over all Christians. If that is the case, then Donald Trump should call for all Christians to have to carry special ID cards, identifying them as Christians.

So the rest of us can feel safer.

[hanger4]

Don't be. Christ didn't say that. That's why we rarely see such a distortion of the Gospel. Can we say the same about Islam? :smiley:


the vast majority of the world's Muslims are peaceful and God fearing.... yet Americans want to lump them all together. That's just wrong. We hide behind our strong military and all our guns, but we're still frightened little sheep scared of things that go bump in the night. Shame.
You ignored the question maineman, why is that ??

[maineman]

Genius, he means carrying your vendetta from thread to thread. And you aren't sympathetic to terrorism. Ewe (hat tip to @Ransom (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=724) ) are just a mindless tool.

So each thread stands alone and things said in one thread that are germane to another thread are not allowed to be mentioned?

[OGIS]

Knock it off taunting other members,seriously.


taunting? they were his words. you'd think that having himself quoted would not be considered a "taunt". Now... if I put words in his mouth, like people on here who claim that others are "sympathetic to terrorism", that would be a taunt.

So... are repeating someone's exact words a taunt?

Please let me know so I can update my Goodspeak reference book.

[Mister D]

So... are repeating someone's exact words a taunt?

Please let me know so I can update my Goodspeak reference book.

Just use a dictionary.

[Mister D]

So each thread stands alone and things said in one thread that are germane to another thread are not allowed to be mentioned?

Just letting you know what he obviously meant. Take up with moderation.

[hanger4]

That is an excellent point. If the shooter is a RWNJ born-again evangelical Christian (possibly even a Dominionist) then it puts a cloud of suspicion over all Christians. If that is the case, then Donald Trump should call for all Christians to have to carry special ID cards, identifying them as Christians.

So the rest of us can feel safer.
The only "cloud of suspicion" is in your delusions.

[maineman]

You ignored the question maineman, why is that ??

what Muhammed said, and what his followers take from those words in this time are not congruent. Jesus said some pretty tough stuff - especially regarding the wealthy - that are routinely "forgotten" by most Christians today... yet they certainly consider themselves faithful followers, don't they?

The vast majority of Muslims in this world are peaceful, kind, God fearing folks. There are some loonies out there.... just like there are some loonies in Christianity. I don't condemn all Christians for the beliefs of some, and I give Muslims the same treatment. Clearly, you don't. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

[Captain Obvious]

So... are repeating someone's exact words a taunt?

Please let me know so I can update my Goodspeak reference book.

Goodspeak reference book...

[maineman]

Just letting you know what he obviously meant. Take up with moderation.

does he pay you? I got nothing to take up with anybody. I quoted him. His words from another thread were germane to this one.

[Mister D]

what Muhammed said, and what his followers take from those words in this time are not congruent. Jesus said some pretty tough stuff - especially regarding the wealthy - that are routinely "forgotten" by most Christians today... yet they certainly consider themselves faithful followers, don't they?

The vast majority of Muslims in this world are peaceful, kind, God fearing folks. There are some loonies out there.... just like there are some loonies in Christianity. I don't condemn all Christians for the beliefs of some, and I give Muslims the same treatment. Clearly, you don't. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

There is a significant current of violent extremism within Islam. If you don't want to acknowledge that it's OK. The rest of the non-Muslim world does.

[maineman]

There is a significant current of violent extremism within Islam. If you don't want to acknowledge that it's OK. The rest of the non-Muslim world does.

that does not change the fact that the vast majority of muslims are not in that current and are appalled by it.

[Mister D]

does he pay you? I got nothing to take up with anybody. I quoted him. His words from another thread were germane to this one.

No, this is charity work but suit yourself.

[Captain Obvious]

that does not change the fact that the vast majority of muslims are not in that current and are appalled by it.

With all due respect, you're full of shit.

How do you know what the "vast majority of muslims" think?

I'll answer that for you, you don't.

[Chris]

So... are repeating someone's exact words a taunt?

Please let me know so I can update my Goodspeak reference book.

Nobody is interested in petty personal squabbles.

[exotix]

Just heard on the live feed from Drudge: one officer has died.
Sources: Officer, civilian killed in CO Springs shooting

http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/11/27/colorado-springs-shooting/76454812/

[Captain Obvious]

Sources: Officer, civilian killed in CO Springs shooting

http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/11/27/colorado-springs-shooting/76454812/

I bet you have a couple of Bearcat police radios in your joint.

[Mister D]

that does not change the fact that the vast majority of muslims are not in that current and are appalled by it.

But an alarmingly number in fact are. It's something to keep in mind.

[exotix]

I bet you have a couple of Bearcat police radios in your joint.How do you know what those are ?

LOL

[Chris]

taunting? they were his words. you'd think that having himself quoted would not be considered a "taunt". Now... if I put words in his mouth, like people on here who claim that others are "sympathetic to terrorism", that would be a taunt.

Stop dragging personal squabbles across threads. Take it to PMs.

[maineman]

With all due respect, you're full of shit.

How do you know what the "vast majority of muslims" think?


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/

[hanger4]

Sources: Officer, civilian killed in CO Springs shooting

http://www.9news.com/story/news/local/2015/11/27/colorado-springs-shooting/76454812/
Sad :(

[Mister D]

With all due respect, you're full of $#@!.

How do you know what the "vast majority of muslims" think?

I'll answer that for you, you don't.

How that's any different from sweeping, negative comments about Muslims I don't know.

[maineman]

Stop dragging personal squabbles across threads. Take it to PMs.

so...let me get this straight... there is a rule at tPF that states one cannot quote a member's posts from one thread and use them in another thread?

I am sorry. I was unaware of that rule.

[maineman]

How that's any different from sweeping, negative comments about Muslims I don't know.

one's based in fear and xenophobia, the other based in reality. Now you know.

[Captain Obvious]

How that's any different from sweeping, negative comments about Muslims I don't know.

It isn't, but IMHO the "vast majority" of muslims aren't an identifiable demographic and IMHO many if not most muslims are neutral or sympathetic to islamic extremism.

[maineman]

But an alarmingly number in fact are. It's something to keep in mind.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/

[maineman]

It isn't, but IMHO the "vast majority" of muslims aren't an identifiable demographic and IMHO many if not most muslims are neutral or sympathetic to islamic extremism.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/

[hanger4]

what Muhammed said, and what his followers take from those words in this time are not congruent. Jesus said some pretty tough stuff - especially regarding the wealthy - that are routinely "forgotten" by most Christians today... yet they certainly consider themselves faithful followers, don't they?

The vast majority of Muslims in this world are peaceful, kind, God fearing folks. There are some loonies out there.... just like there are some loonies in Christianity. I don't condemn all Christians for the beliefs of some, and I give Muslims the same treatment. Clearly, you don't. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Call me when you find the verse of Jesus comanding the believers to kill the rich where ever they find them.

[maineman]

Call me when you find the verse of Jesus comanding the believers to kill the rich where ever they find them.

He himself would send them to Hell, however.

[Captain Obvious]

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/

From your link:

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2015/11/FT_15.11.17_ISIS.png


Remove non-Muslims and explain to me how this is a "vast majority".

Also, if you poll rapists and ask them if they like rape, do you think the standard of deviation on that poll would be small?

[Chris]

so...let me get this straight... there is a rule at tPF that states one cannot quote a member's posts from one thread and use them in another thread?

I am sorry. I was unaware of that rule.

Stop twisting. Rule against call outs, harassment.

[maineman]

From your link:

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2015/11/FT_15.11.17_ISIS.png


Remove non-Muslims and explain to me how this is a "vast majority".

Also, if you poll rapists and ask them if they like rape, do you think the standard of deviation on that poll would be small?100, 98, 91, 79. 64, 61, 67%

If a president of the US won election by even the smallest of those percentages, it would be considered a vast majority. Would you disagree? If any referendum on any state ballot won with those percentages, everyone would say that they won with a vast majority of the voters. Would you disagree?

[hanger4]

He himself would send them to Hell, however.
Then your comparison is bogus. Thanks

[maineman]

Then your comparison is bogus. Thanks

in your opinion. we'll agree to disagree. thanks, and bless your heart.

[Captain Obvious]

100, 98, 91, 79. 64, 61, 67%

If a president of the US won election by even the smallest of those percentages, it would be considered a vast majority. Would you disagree? If any referendum on any state ballot won with those percentages, everyone would say that they won with a vast majority of the voters. Would you disagree?

Yup.

Local politics =/= big religion.

You dodged points too but who's counting.

[exotix]

Just In

Ok, we're looking at a Death Penalty Case

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/report-active-shooter-near-planned-parenthood-colorado-springs-n470431

Two people, including a police officer, were killed inside the Planned Parenthood facility in Colorado Springs, according to several law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation.

"At this point I have as many questions as you do," Colorado Springs Police Chief Peter Carey told reporters before heading to the hospital to visit injured officers.

Police are still clearing the building, now a crime scene, to make sure several unidentified items that the gunman brought with him are not dangerous, police said.

The shooting and standoff unfolded during a regular working day at the facility, with patients waiting for appointments and staff members attending to them, Colorado Springs Police Department Lt. Catherine Buckley said.

Several escaped during the ordeal, thanks in part to police personnel who rammed the side of the building with a truck, officials told NBC News.


Suspect not known at this time is led away by Police


http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_48/1319096/498964926_b95b11caa5bfbbb3791cfdd4c1269888.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

[hanger4]

in your opinion. we'll agree to disagree. thanks, and bless your heart.
Not opinion, you failed to show the verse where Jesus comamded the believers to kill the rich where they find them. There is no comparison.

[Private Pickle]

Well they took him alive. You know he is a Christian...

[maineman]

Not opinion, you failed to show the verse where Jesus comamded the believers to kill the rich where they find them. There is no comparison.

you set that criteria, not me. why in the world do you think you can dictate shit to me?

[Private Pickle]

Just In

Ok, we're looking at a Death Penalty Case

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/report-active-shooter-near-planned-parenthood-colorado-springs-n470431

Two people, including a police officer, were killed inside the Planned Parenthood facility in Colorado Springs, according to several law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation.

"At this point I have as many questions as you do," Colorado Springs Police Chief Peter Carey told reporters before heading to the hospital to visit injured officers.

Police are still clearing the building, now a crime scene, to make sure several unidentified items that the gunman brought with him are not dangerous, police said.

The shooting and standoff unfolded during a regular working day at the facility, with patients waiting for appointments and staff members attending to them, Colorado Springs Police Department Lt. Catherine Buckley said.

Several escaped during the ordeal, thanks in part to police personnel who rammed the side of the building with a truck, officials told NBC News.


Suspect not known at this time is led away by Police


http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_48/1319096/498964926_b95b11caa5bfbbb3791cfdd4c1269888.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

We don't sentence Holmes to death what makes you think we will sentence this turd to death?

Colorado has had Lib Governors for quite some time...

I'm kinda for it and I'm not. They allow you to smoke weed but you can't have more than 15 rounds in your magazine... I mean to some that may seem like a no-brainer. To me that looks completely idiotic and contradictory....

[exotix]

We don't sentence Holmes to death what makes you think we will sentence this turd to death?

Colorado has had Lib Governors for quite some time...

I'm kinda for it and I'm not. They allow you to smoke weed but you can't have more than 15 rounds in your magazine... I mean to some that may seem like a no-brainer. To me that looks completely idiotic and contradictory....One things' for certain ... Ted Cruz is finished.

[maineman]

Yup.

Local politics =/= big religion.

You dodged points too but who's counting.

pollsters asked people in a variety of muslim countries what they felt about an Islamic extremist organization. Overwhelmingly, they were opposed to it. I listed every muslim percentage from your pasted table... I dodged nothing.

[Private Pickle]

One things' for certain ... Ted Cruz is finished.

It's a good thing a shooting at Planned Parenthood made your dreams come true....or at least the dreams of you and yours....whomever they may be and as irrelevant as they are...

[exotix]

It's a good thing a shooting at Planned Parenthood made your dreams come true....or at least the dreams of you and yours....whomever they may be and as irrelevant as they are...
Don't worry ... your boy Cruz will yammer away in hate & death at Planned Parenthood in the name of the little baby Jesus anyway ....

What about Trump ?

LOL

[OGIS]

With all due respect, you're full of $#@!.

How do you know what the "vast majority of muslims" think?

I'll answer that for you, you don't.

How do you know what the "vast majority of muslims" think?

[Captain Obvious]

pollsters asked people in a variety of muslim countries what they felt about an Islamic extremist organization. Overwhelmingly, they were opposed to it. I listed every muslim percentage from your pasted table... I dodged nothing.

Of course you did, twice. Three times counting this one (four actually).

Walk up to muslims in the US or any "Western friendly" Islamic nation with a camera and ask them if they support ISIS. You think those sympathizing extremism are going to answer honestly?

I'll answer that for you, probably not.

Second, I'd consider 90% a "vast majority". You can do the rest of the math.

[Captain Obvious]

How do you know what the "vast majority of muslims" think?

Add "IMO" to your goodspeak reference.

[Private Pickle]

Don't worry ... your boy Cruz will yammer away in hate & death at Planned Parenthood in the name of the little baby Jesus anyway ....

What about Trump ?

LOL

Well last week I'm a liberal and today Ted Cruz is my boy...

And the colored girls go....."Do do do dododo do do dododo do dododo do do doooodoooooooooo"

[Captain Obvious]

Well last week I'm a liberal and today Ted Cruz is my boy...

And the colored girls go....."Do do do dododo do do dododo do dododo do do doooodoooooooooo"

I wish you would make up your mind already

[maineman]

Of course you did, twice. Three times counting this one (four actually).

Walk up to muslims in the US or any "Western friendly" Islamic nation with a camera and ask them if they support ISIS. You think those sympathizing extremism are going to answer honestly?

I'll answer that for you, probably not.

Second, I'd consider 90% a "vast majority". You can do the rest of the math.

here's a interesting news flash for ya: the term "vast majority" is not specific in nature. And how many of the countries in your pasted table were "western friendly"? I stand by my statement concerning a vast majority of muslims and I contend that the link I provided supports my position. We can agree to disagree. and bless your heart.

and I didn't see anything in the Pew report that indicated that the polling was filmed... so your "camera" line is irrelevant fluff.

[hanger4]

you set that criteria, not me. why in the world do you think you can dictate shit to me?
I dictated nothing. You made a bogus comparison, I pointed it out. You had every chance to substantiate it and did not. You dictated yourself so to speak.

[exotix]

I wish you would make up your mind alreadyReally dude ? ... this coming from the dude who thinks ying & yang is RWNJ & LWNJ .... *snicker*

[Captain Obvious]

here's a interesting news flash for ya: the term "vast majority" is not specific in nature. And how many of the countries in your pasted table were "western friendly"? I stand by my statement concerning a vast majority of muslims and I contend that the link I provided supports my position. We can agree to disagree. and bless your heart.

and I didn't see anything in the Pew report that indicated that the polling was filmed... so your "camera" line is irrelevant fluff.

ok toots

[Captain Obvious]

Really dude ? ... this coming from the dude who thinks ying & yang is RWNJ & LWNJ .... *snicker*

Stay away from my ying and especially my yang.

:biglaugh:

[maineman]

ok toots

nice dodge.

[maineman]

I dictated nothing. You made a bogus comparison, I pointed it out. You had every chance to substantiate it and did not. You dictated yourself so to speak.

what comparison that I made was bogus?

[Captain Obvious]

nice dodge.

You misspelled "victory lap"

[maineman]

You misspelled "victory lap"

not so nice dodge... lame, actually.

Do you have any original material?

[Captain Obvious]

not so nice dodge... lame, actually.

Do you have any original material?

Yeah.

Bye

[maineman]

again: how many of the countries in your pasted table were "western friendly"? I stand by my statement concerning a vast majority of muslims and I contend that the link I provided supports my position.

what do you have other than one liners to counter that assertion, besides your opinion that it takes 90% to be a vast majority :rofl: ?

[maineman]

Yeah.

Bye

don't toy with me and make promises you won't keep.

[Captain Obvious]

don't toy with me and make promises you won't keep.

You're boyfriend is here, he can babysit you now.

[hanger4]

what comparison that I made was bogus?
Right here;


what Muhammed said, and what his followers take from those words in this time are not congruent. *Jesus said some pretty tough stuff - especially regarding the wealthy - that are routinely "forgotten" by most Christians today... yet they certainly consider themselves faithful followers, don't they?
.
Your comparison was the teachings of Christ to the teachings of Mohamed. As if you didn't already know.

[maineman]

Right here;


Your comparison was the teachings of Christ to the teachings of Mohamed. As if you didn't already know.

so that means you get to pick one teaching of Muhammed and, if I can't find its twin in the teachings of Christ, there is no comparison?

fuck that.

[exotix]

Just In

Death Toll now at 3

http://www.businessinsider.com/active-shooter-situation-reported-at-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-2015-11

Identity of suspect seen here still not known at this time

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/5658f72984307618008b5dbd/three-dead-9-injured-in-a-shooting-at-a-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-suspected-gunman-in-custody.jpg

[hanger4]

so that means you get to pick one teaching of Muhammed and, if I can't find its twin in the teachings of Christ, there is no comparison?

fuck that.
I didn't choose, you chose the comparison right there in your quote and it was bogus.

[maineman]

I didn't choose, you chose the comparison right there in your quote and it was bogus.

I picked no specific teaching from Muhammed. sorry.

[JDubya]

Just In

Death Toll now at 3

http://www.businessinsider.com/active-shooter-situation-reported-at-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-2015-11

Identity of suspect seen here still not known at this time

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/5658f72984307618008b5dbd/three-dead-9-injured-in-a-shooting-at-a-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-suspected-gunman-in-custody.jpg

Heard he told the cops as they were arresting him... "I love my country. I knew I'd be arrested" or something to that effect.

So, he love his country so much, he had to attack and murder some of it's citizens.

Ooooooooooookay.

[Captain Obvious]

Just In

Death Toll now at 3

http://www.businessinsider.com/active-shooter-situation-reported-at-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-2015-11

Identity of suspect seen here still not known at this time

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/5658f72984307618008b5dbd/three-dead-9-injured-in-a-shooting-at-a-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-suspected-gunman-in-custody.jpg


Be soothed, he's white.

[hanger4]

I picked no specific teaching from Muhammed. sorry.
But you did specify Christ's teaching on the wealthy therefore choosing the comparison.

[Common Sense]

Ugh....

[JDubya]

Fetuses lives don't matter

http://s21.postimg.org/rfarhqg2f/festus01.jpg

[maineman]

But you did specify Christ's teaching on the wealthy therefore choosing the comparison.

not in the least. I said nothing about anyone killing rich people. that was all you.

[JDubya]

With all due respect, you're full of shit.

How do you know what the "vast majority of muslims" think?

I'll answer that for you, you don't.

And of course, neither do you.

Of course.

[hanger4]

not in the least.
Your words. Bless your wittle heart.

[Captain Obvious]

And of course, neither do you.

Of course.

Right, and if you noticed I presented my opinion as just that - an opinion. Unlike MM who presents his opinion as fact.

And I'm far more unbiased and logically thinking than MM will ever dream to be so that's all that's needed to be known about that.

[OGIS]

so...let me get this straight... there is a rule at tPF that states one cannot quote a member's posts from one thread and use them in another thread?

I am sorry. I was unaware of that rule.

I'm afraid that this may all be my fault, since I was quoting certain content from another thread where the member in question had been lying - for some weeks as I recall - about Islamist Obama's fiendish withdrawal of troops from Iraq so as to help ISIS.

I took the time to dig up the actual State Department document that showed that the withdrawal had been negotiated by Bush, and that Obama had had no choice but to withdraw the troops according to the withdrawal timeline.

So I had been quoting that content in an effort to embarrass this certain individual into admitting his lying and apologizing to the Forum. This, apparently, prompted a whine session with the mods and a banhammer on one of the threads.

So now a precedent has been set: liars can isolate their lies to specific threads, and the mods have been "sensitized" to cross-thread communications.

Oh well.

[del]

Right, and if you noticed I presented my opinion as just that - an opinion. Unlike MM who presents his opinion as fact.

And I'm far more unbiased and logically thinking than MM will ever dream to be so that's all that's needed to be known about that.

in your opinion

[Captain Obvious]

in your opinion

That's your opinion

[del]

That's your opinion

the difference being that i'm right

[exotix]

That's your opinionC'mon dude you gave an opinion about your opinions ... that's like talking to the mirror in the third person ... http://i63.tinypic.com/sxkmwy.gif

[silvereyes]

This guy is probaby not a muslim

since its a planned parenthood unborn baby chop shop the best bet is that he is Christian.

but that does not excuse muslim violence

Or crazy ass Christian fanatics.

[silvereyes]

LOL, a certain other political discussion site is totally in la-la land over this.

I'm sure they are all ga-ga singing the nuts praises.

[silvereyes]

Stay away from my ying and especially my yang.

:biglaugh:
So many comebacks....so little time. :)

[Captain Obvious]

So many comebacks....so little time. :)

I have a sensitive yang.

My ying? Tough as nails.

[OGIS]

I'm sure they are all ga-ga singing the nuts praises.

No, busy spinning that it was NEAR the PP site. Totally unrelated to PP. Nothing to see here folks, move along. I suspect some members are in shock.

This could be very bad.

Some people have been ranting for years and assuming that no one would actually act on the rants.

Do you think that (if the guy is a fanatic Christian anti-abortionist) that Trump will call for Christians to all have special ID?

[Crepitus]

Be soothed, he's white.
Don't care what color, religion, or whatever he is. He's a nut job.

[Crepitus]

For what it's worth, the few Muslims I know personally are both against extremists and terrified of them.

[exotix]

No, busy spinning that it was NEAR the PP site. Totally unrelated to PP. Nothing to see here folks, move along. I suspect some members are in shock.

This could be very bad.

Some people have been ranting for years and assuming that no one would actually act on the rants.

Do you think that (if the guy is a fanatic Christian anti-abortionist) that Trump will call for Christians to all have special ID?He does have the Christian-Jihadist thing going on ...


http://art.wsj.net/api/photos/gams-files/BN-LM018_2o9Tn_M_20151127224403.jpg?width=860&height=573

[zelmo1234]

that does not change the fact that the vast majority of muslims are not in that current and are appalled by it.

And Silent. You forgot Silent. They are not out protesting or trying to stop the terrorists. Sure some of them are, but not the majority.

If this shooter is a Christian, he is wrong in his belief, And should be condemned, Yes Abortion is murder, but it is legal in this country, and thus the judgment will come from God and not man.

And while I believe that we should do everything that we can to change the legality of abortion in most cases, it is wrong for someone to take the law into their own hands.

Many Christians will condemn this persons actions. For a large part, Islam is silent of the murdering faction of their religion.

[zelmo1234]

Or crazy ass Christian fanatics.

I agree Violence can't be condoned by the name of any religion.

Now if this persons is Christian, the media will be all over the religion and calling for all kinds of actions. In the case of Islam? There is silence and appeasement?

That should tell you all that you need to know about the left in this country.

[exotix]

I agree Violence can't be condoned by the name of any religion.

Now if this persons is Christian, the media will be all over the religion and calling for all kinds of actions. In the case of Islam? There is silence and appeasement?

That should tell you all that you need to know about the left in this country.This dude will be found to be recruited by Ted Cruz buddy Troy Newman ... who like ISIS .. finds disturbed losers to kill for them .. (like George Tiller murderer Scott Roeder)


Ted Cruz Touts Endorsement Of Activist Who Argues Killing Abortion Doctors Should Be Justifiable Homicide

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/ted_cruz_embraces_endorsement_of_activist_who_call s_murder_of_abortion_doctors_justifiable_homicide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KP5KEzWvkU

[exotix]

Just In

Suspect identified as Robert Lewis Dear


http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/robert-lewis-dear-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-shooting-gunman-shooter-suspect-name-photos-identity-identified-charges-family-motive-pro-life-conservative-age-white/

Robert Lewis Dear Jr., 57, has been identified as the suspect in the shooting at a Planned Parenthood medical center (http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-shooting-gunman-suspect-police-officers-shot-victims-injuries-deaths-photos-video-name-propane-tanks-twitter/)in Colorado Springs, Colorado, the Denver Post reports. (http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29172660/colorado-springs-firefighters-respond-active-shooter-at-planned)

[OGIS]

Well they took him alive. You know he is a Christian...

And white.

[Common Sense]

And Silent. You forgot Silent. They are not out protesting or trying to stop the terrorists. Sure some of them are, but not the majority.

If this shooter is a Christian, he is wrong in his belief, And should be condemned, Yes Abortion is murder, but it is legal in this country, and thus the judgment will come from God and not man.

And while I believe that we should do everything that we can to change the legality of abortion in most cases, it is wrong for someone to take the law into their own hands.

Many Christians will condemn this persons actions. For a large part, Islam is silent of the murdering faction of their religion.

Bullshit. Muslims denounce terrorism just about as much as Christians denounce murdering abortion providers.

[Peter1469]

Bullshit. Muslims denounce terrorism just about as much as Christians denounce murdering abortion providers.

Where?

[Common Sense]

Where?

Where do they (muslims) denounce terrorism?

http://time.com/4112830/muslims-paris-terror-attacks-islam-condemn/

They are quite prolific, but many choose not to hear.

[Ransom]

that does not change the fact that the vast majority of muslims are not in that current and are appalled by it.

And deafening us with their silence.

[Peter1469]

Where do they (muslims) denounce terrorism?

http://time.com/4112830/muslims-paris-terror-attacks-islam-condemn/

They are quite prolific, but many choose not to hear.


They need to do more. Perhaps actively fight those who are "trashing" their religion.

[Ransom]

Where are the Muslim coalitions going after ISIS... or the Taliban. Syrian men pouring over international borders, I reckon other Muslim nations believe if Syrians won't fight for their own country, then neither will they fight for the nation they're fleeing to.

Trust me Forum, when it's our turn to be the refugees, Muslim countries will bring you right in. Give you shelter, send their militaries off to defeat evil.

[Chris]

This dude will be found to be recruited by Ted Cruz buddy Troy Newman ... who like ISIS .. finds disturbed losers to kill for them .. (like George Tiller murderer Scott Roeder)


Ted Cruz Touts Endorsement Of Activist Who Argues Killing Abortion Doctors Should Be Justifiable Homicide

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/ted_cruz_embraces_endorsement_of_activist_who_call s_murder_of_abortion_doctors_justifiable_homicide

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KP5KEzWvkU

Why are you still posting that nonesense?

[Chris]

Where are the Muslim coalitions going after ISIS... or the Taliban. Syrian men pouring over international borders, I reckon other Muslim nations believe if Syrians won't fight for their own country, then neither will they fight for the nation they're fleeing to.

Trust me Forum, when it's our turn to be the refugees, Muslim countries will bring you right in. Give you shelter, send their militaries off to defeat evil.

If you knew anything about the Middle East you'd know they don't generally meddle in each other's affairs.

[exotix]

Why are you still posting that nonesense?You don't appear to like my projection and conjecture ... I wonder why.

[maineman]

And Silent. You forgot Silent. They are not out protesting or trying to stop the terrorists. Sure some of them are, but not the majority.

If this shooter is a Christian, he is wrong in his belief, And should be condemned, Yes Abortion is murder, but it is legal in this country, and thus the judgment will come from God and not man.

And while I believe that we should do everything that we can to change the legality of abortion in most cases, it is wrong for someone to take the law into their own hands.

Many Christians will condemn this persons actions. For a large part, Islam is silent of the murdering faction of their religion.

MANY Christians? Do you predict a vast majority of American Christians will be "out protesting and trying to stop" future abortion clinic violence? Can we expect millions and millions of committed American Christians marching in the streets and taking other positive measures to protect abortion clinics from violence? Really??? Seems to me you hold Islam to a much higher standard than Christianity when it comes to policing their own loonies.

[maineman]

And deafening us with their silence.

again.... I anxiously await the millions and millions of compassionate outspoken Christians who will take to the streets to decry violence by Christians against abortion clinics. Do you think those marches will be scheduled for this week or next?

[exotix]

again.... I anxiously await the millions and millions of compassionate outspoken Christians who will take to the streets to decry violence by Christians against abortion clinics. Do you think those marches will be scheduled for this week or next?
You're asking lopsided Uncle neocon ? ... LOL

[exotix]

Just In

Suspect identified as Robert Lewis Dear

http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/robert-lewis-dear-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-shooting-gunman-shooter-suspect-name-photos-identity-identified-charges-family-motive-pro-life-conservative-age-white/

Robert Lewis Dear Jr., 57, has been identified as the suspect in the shooting at a Planned Parenthood medical center (http://heavy.com/news/2015/11/colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-shooting-gunman-suspect-police-officers-shot-victims-injuries-deaths-photos-video-name-propane-tanks-twitter/)in Colorado Springs, Colorado, the Denver Post reports. (http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_29172660/colorado-springs-firefighters-respond-active-shooter-at-planned)https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CU5rrEGUsAAlPf8.jpg:large

[Peter1469]

again.... I anxiously await the millions and millions of compassionate outspoken Christians who will take to the streets to decry violence by Christians against abortion clinics. Do you think those marches will be scheduled for this week or next?

They are focused on the babies.

Most aren't, I realize that.

[maineman]

They are focused on the babies.

Most aren't, I realize that.

so the Christian silence on this issue is, deafening, you would say?

[ThaiBoxer]

Another angry white guy with a gun shooting people up. Seems to be a common theme today. I wonder if 31 Republican governors will demand no more white Christian men enter their state.

[maineman]

You're asking lopsided Uncle neocon ? ... LOL

I dunno.... maybe he's got special hearing capabilities that allow him to hear the outrage of Christians that seems deafening to the rest of us.

But if that is so, he needs to accept the possibility that there are other gifted folks who can hear the outrage of Muslims that he can't... or won't.

[Common]

Another angry white guy with a gun shooting people up. Seems to be a common theme today. I wonder if 31 Republican governors will demand no more white Christian men enter their state.

You need to start worrying about the biggest killer of black people in America, All those Angry black guys. Oh im sorry were never supposed to mention that it upsets the extreme far left who are told to just vilify white people and cops.

[GrassrootsConservative]

Only babies are allowed to get killed at Planned Parenthood. This guy clearly doesn't know the rules.

[ThaiBoxer]

You need to start worrying about the biggest killer of black people in America, All those Angry black guys. Oh im sorry were never supposed to mention that it upsets the extreme far left who are told to just vilify white people and cops.

What do blacks have to do with this discussion?

[Ransom]

again.... I anxiously await the millions and millions of compassionate outspoken Christians who will take to the streets to decry violence by Christians against abortion clinics. Do you think those marches will be scheduled for this week or next?

Next week, we're right behind your Float in your parade against violence for the shooter who asked about Christian faith and shot believers in the head. Your Float though doesn't seem to meet standards or parade parameters, and why is it adorned with white flags?

[GrassrootsConservative]

What do blacks have to do with this discussion?

And what do whites have to do with this discussion? You mentioned us in post 181.

[Ransom]

Another angry white guy with a gun shooting people up. Seems to be a common theme today. I wonder if 31 Republican governors will demand no more white Christian men enter their state.

This is why I still oppose the legalization of marijuana. Wow.

[ThaiBoxer]

And what do whites have to do with this discussion? You mentioned us in post 181.

Besides the fat old white guy who shot up PP? Gee, I have no idea..... derp

[ThaiBoxer]

This is why I still oppose the legalization of marijuana. Wow.

I don't smoke, drink, or do drugs. Try again.

[Ransom]

And what do whites have to do with this discussion? You mentioned us in post 181.

May I respectfully request you don't get the herd all antsy this morning, grazing peacefully and you gotta go asking for common sense and reason.

Here we go.

[exotix]

You need to start worrying about the biggest killer of black people in America, All those Angry black guys. Oh im sorry were never supposed to mention that it upsets the extreme far left who are told to just vilify white people and cops.
Blacks don't grab assault weapons and bombs and attack and massacre Planned Parenthood let alone schools, theatres and kindergartens ... deranged (christian conservative) whites do.

[Ransom]

I don't smoke, drink, or do drugs. Try again.

Media addiction?

[maineman]

hey Ransom.... you planning on attending the Million Christian March on Washington this week to protest abortion clinic violence?

[maineman]

cuz we all know that, unlike Muslims, whose silence is apparently "deafening" regarding violence committed by other Muslims, Christians, on the other hand, are quite vocal and active about keeping THEIR violent members in line. Right, Ransom?? zelmo1234???

[GrassrootsConservative]

Besides the fat old white guy who shot up PP? Gee, I have no idea..... derp


That's racist. Stop painting with a broad brush. If I can't paint all blacks the same with every black on black crime or black on white crime you can't do it with whites.

[exotix]

cuz we all know that, unlike Muslims, whose silence is apparently "deafening" regarding violence committed by other Muslims, Christians, on the other hand, are quite vocal and active about keeping THEIR violent members in line. Right, @Ransom (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=724)?? @zelmo1234 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=588)???
Right now and as usual after every massacre, they're waiting for Lapierre and the NRA to froth in rage that white christian conservatives are getting their 2nd Amendment Rights attacked.

[Private Pickle]

Bullshit. Muslims denounce terrorism just about as much as Christians denounce murdering abortion providers.

Really? Cause there is a lot more Islamic Terrorism than Christians murdering abortion providers...

[Captain Obvious]

What do blacks have to do with this discussion?

You clearly felt the need to define this guy as a "white guy" so you tell me.

[maineman]

Really? Cause there is a lot more Islamic Terrorism than Christians murdering abortion providers...

again... are you planning on attending the Million Christian March against Abortion Clinic Violence?

[Captain Obvious]

Don't care what color, religion, or whatever he is. He's a nut job.

Well, you're one of the folks here who tends to look at all aspects of an incident rather than just focus on those that promote a political agenda.

Unfortunately we have too many political bedshitters that make real discussion a challenge.

[Private Pickle]

again... are you planning on attending the Million Christian March against Abortion Clinic Violence?

I'm not a Christian... I don't understand the deal with any of them...

But that still doesn't respond to my point does it? Are you comparing Christian Abortion violence with Islamic Terrorism? I mean really? You get an abortion clinic shooting every 5 years or so...

[exotix]

Well, you're one of the folks here who tends to look at all aspects of an incident rather than just focus on those that promote a political agenda.

Unfortunately we have too many political bedshitters that make real discussion a challenge.Really dude ... coming from you ?

LOL

[Captain Obvious]

Really dude ... coming from you ?

LOL

Whoosh...

[Chris]

You don't appear to like my projection and conjecture ... I wonder why.

I don't like irrationality. You'd arguing from unknowns. Like too many you take advantage of the suffering of others to push political agenda. I find it deplorable.

[exotix]

I don't like irrationality. You'd arguing from unknowns. Like too many you take advantage of the suffering of others to push political agenda. I find it deplorable.
Massacres ... especially by assault-weapons ... now deemed as a normal way of life practically guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment is not political ?

Notice how the behavior of the GOP since Bush wants you to believe they're *normal*

[Common]

I don't like irrationality. You'd arguing from unknowns. Like too many you take advantage of the suffering of others to push political agenda. I find it deplorable.

Both sides say it and troll it on this forum incessantly

[exotix]

Both sides say it and troll it on this forum incessantlyIf it doesn't conform to your beliefs its incessant trolling ... got it.

[Common]

Just recently in NYC the police confiscated in just TWO busts over 17,000 'ILLEGAL WEAPONS" many of which where semi automatic and automatic weapons.

There is no area of the country where illegal weaponry wasnt abundant long before all the gun laws
There is one constant in america and that is anyone that wants one can always get a gun if not legally then illegally.

I agree some sensible laws would stem "SOME" but not enough. There are millions of guns already in the hands of amercans that NO ONE CAN EVER TAKE. Theres a reality that everyone has to come to grips with

[exotix]

Just recently in NYC the police confiscated in just TWO busts over 17,000 'ILLEGAL WEAPONS" many of which where semi automatic and automatic weapons.

There is no area of the country where illegal weaponry wasnt abundant long before all the gun laws
There is one constant in america and that is anyone that wants one can always get a gun if not legally then illegally.

I agree some sensible laws would stem "SOME" but not enough. There are millions of guns already in the hands of amercans that NO ONE CAN EVER TAKE.

Theres a reality that everyone has to come to grips with
Perfectly American and *normal*

[Chris]

Massacres ... especially by assault-weapons ... now deemed as a normal way of life practically guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment is not political ?

Notice how the behavior of the GOP since Bush wants you to believe they're *normal*

Hah, you've changed agendas!

[exotix]

Hah, you've changed agendas!I'm *normal* ... LOL

[Chris]

Both sides say it and troll it on this forum incessantly

Each justifying as but the other side does it.

[domer76]

More guns! More guns! More guns!

[Captain Obvious]

^^standard progressive bedshitting

[domer76]

^^standard progressive bedshitting

Naw. I stopped bed shitting after Sandy Hook and the slaughter of 20 babies. How many mass slaughters have occurred since then? Several dozens? More?

[Captain Obvious]

Naw. I stopped bed shitting after Sandy Hook and the slaughter of 20 babies. How many mass slaughters have occurred since then? Several dozens? More?

53 million.

Give or take.

[birddog]

Naw. I stopped bed $#@!ting after Sandy Hook and the slaughter of 20 babies. How many mass slaughters have occurred since then? Several dozens? More?

Guns is certainly not the problem, only an ignoramus would think so! The problem is doped up, usually prescription mind altering drugs, crazy people. A Progressive society creating "gun free zones" to make people vulnerable also is part of the problem.

Concentrating on guns, and the need for more useless gun laws, shows that a person has passed the level of ignorance and entered the world of stupidity!

[domer76]

53 million.

Give or take.

Find a new information source.

[exotix]

guns is certainly not the problem, only an ignoramus would think so!

The problem is doped up, usually prescription mind altering drugs, crazy people. A progressive society creating "gun free zones" to make people vulnerable also is part of the problem.

Concentrating on guns, and the need for more useless gun laws, shows that a person has passed the level of ignorance and entered the world of stupidity!lol

[maineman]

Guns is certainly not the problem, only an ignoramus would think so! The problem is doped up, usually prescription mind altering drugs, crazy people. A Progressive society creating "gun free zones" to make people vulnerable also is part of the problem.

Concentrating on guns, and the need for more useless gun laws, shows that a person has passed the level of ignorance and entered the world of stupidity!

have you seen any information that would suggest that the shooter at the PP clinic was a "doped up, usually prescription mind altering drugs, crazy person"

[domer76]

Guns is certainly not the problem, only an ignoramus would think so! The problem is doped up, usually prescription mind altering drugs, crazy people. A Progressive society creating "gun free zones" to make people vulnerable also is part of the problem.

Concentrating on guns, and the need for more useless gun laws, shows that a person has passed the level of ignorance and entered the world of stupidity!

Right. Just like Sandy Hook and the others, those fuckers go in and tickle their victims to death.

The ignorance is yours, pal, if you don't recognize the link between gun violence, ease of access and the sheer numbers of guns in this country. There's a reason why the U.S. Has the most gun violence in Western cultures. And I'll give you a hint, pal, it ain't because there are too many knives

[Chris]

Right. Just like Sandy Hook and the others, those fuckers go in and tickle their victims to death.

The ignorance is yours, pal, if you don't recognize the link between gun violence, ease of access and the sheer numbers of guns in this country. There's a reason why the U.S. Has the most gun violence in Western cultures. And I'll give you a hint, pal, it ain't because there are too many knives


Why don't you establish that link, dormer, be the first to do so.

[Chris]

have you seen any information that would suggest that the shooter at the PP clinic was a "doped up, usually prescription mind altering drugs, crazy person"


Do you have evidence for anything?

Too many argue from unknowns.

[OGIS]

You don't appear to like my projection and conjecture ... I wonder why.

Perhaps it conflicts with his own projection and conjecture?

[OGIS]

have you seen any information that would suggest that the shooter at the PP clinic was a "doped up, usually prescription mind altering drugs, crazy person"

Evidence? EVIDENCE? Buhahahaaaa! He don't need no stinkin' evidence!

[maineman]

Do you have evidence for anything?

Too many argue from unknowns.

all I know is that he's a 6'4" white male with ties to the Carolinas. I have no idea whether that makes him more or less likely to fit the "doped up, usually prescription mind altering drugs, crazy people" category, but I am fairly certain that somewhat lessens his chances of being a Radicalized Syrian Muslim terrorist who waltzed through our vetting process.

[Chris]

all I know is that he's a 6'4" white male with ties to the Carolinas. I have no idea whether that makes him more or less likely to fit the "doped up, usually prescription mind altering drugs, crazy people" category, but I am fairly certain that somewhat lessens his chances of being a Radicalized Syrian Muslim terrorist who waltzed through our vetting process.

Arguing from unknowns.

[Chris]

Perhaps it conflicts with his own projection and conjecture?

Or perhaps you too could take my word for it that I dislike irrational arguments. Or do you too prefer projection and conjecture unrelated to reality?

[maineman]

Arguing from unknowns.

merely conjecture related to reality.

[Chris]

merely conjecture related to reality.

No, it's not.

[domer76]

Why don't you establish that link, dormer, be the first to do so.

Sorry, Chris, I'm done doing your homework for you. I've posted the stats many times. They are out there for you to look for yourself.

[maineman]

No, it's not.

yes, it is.

[Chris]

Sorry, Chris, I'm done doing your homework for you. I've posted the stats many times. They are out there for you to look for yourself.

I didn't think you could.

[OGIS]

Or perhaps you too could take my word for it that I dislike irrational arguments. Or do you too prefer projection and conjecture unrelated to reality?

Whoa. That's 95% of the discussion on this list.

[Common]

Whoa. That's 95% of the discussion on this list.

Its 95% and ALL discussions on this forum anymore

[domer76]

I didn't think you could.

You just don't think.

If you had any curiosity, you would look those numbers up yourself. You could find them in seconds. But you won't because you're lazy and argumentative simply to be an argumentative hole.

[leekohler2]

Most conservatives do not condone killing planned parenthood abortion workers.

if protection of innocent human life of unborn human beings is the motivation for this violence the shooter is wrong

Unfortunately, too many do condone it:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/28/pro-lifers-take-to-twitter-to-praise-planned-parenthood-shooter/

I would say I'm surprised, but I'm not. Disgusting human beings.

Also, any GOP plans to defund Planned Parenthood will not stand a snowball's chance in hell of passing now.

[Peter1469]

Unfortunately, too many do condone it:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/28/pro-lifers-take-to-twitter-to-praise-planned-parenthood-shooter/

I would say I'm surprised, but I'm not. Disgusting human beings.

Also, any GOP plans to defund Planned Parenthood will not stand a snowball's chance in hell of passing now.

Why not?

[leekohler2]

Why not?

Gee, I'm thinking that maybe that would not be such a cool thing to push for right now. Don't you?

But then again, let the GOP try. They're not exactly known for good judgement in these kinds of situations.

Also, all the GOP candidates (except Ted Cruz) have been completely silent after the shooting. That says a lot- none it good.

Note to the GOP: those voters you want to win over in the middle? They're watching you right now.

[Common]

Gee, I'm thinking that maybe that would not be such a cool thing to push for right now. Don't you?

But then again, let the GOP try. They're not exactly known for good judgement in these kinds of situations.

Also, all the GOP candidates (except Ted Cruz) have been completely silent after the shooting. That says a lot- none it good.

Note to the GOP: those voters you want to win over in the middle? They're watching you right now.

You are right the independent middle is watching the GOP but they are also watching Obama and democrats

[Chris]

Unfortunately, too many do condone it:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/11/28/pro-lifers-take-to-twitter-to-praise-planned-parenthood-shooter/

I would say I'm surprised, but I'm not. Disgusting human beings.

Also, any GOP plans to defund Planned Parenthood will not stand a snowball's chance in hell of passing now.

Texas has already defunded. I think a couple others have. Texas will continue as a Republican state.

[leekohler2]

Texas has already defunded. I think a couple others have. Texas will continue as a Republican state.

I can guarantee you that none of that will be done at the federal level.

[Dr. Who]

What is 100% certain is that this individual believed that his opinion about PP justified shooting people down, irrespective of the law. There is no defense of his actions.

[leekohler2]

What is 100% certain is that this individual believed that his opinion about PP justified shooting people down, irrespective of the law. There is no defense of his actions.

Not to sensible people anyway.

[Chris]

Whoa. That's 95% of the discussion on this list.

Fine if based on facts. Last I read the man and motive aren't really known.

[Dr. Who]

Let's please keep from making arguments personal. Everyone has their own opinion based on minimal facts.

[Chris]

I can guarantee you that none of that will be done at the federal level.

Of course not, PP is funded via Medicaid.

[Chris]

What is 100% certain is that this individual believed that his opinion about PP justified shooting people down, irrespective of the law. There is no defense of his actions.

Last I read it wasn't known he even targeted PP specifically.

[leekohler2]

Of course not, PP is funded via Medicaid.

So are you denying the attempt at the federal level by the GOP to defund PP?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/09/28/republicans-try-new-way-defund-planned-parenthood-avoiding-shutdown/72973496/