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Brett Nortje
11-29-2015, 06:17 AM
Poaching is the most endangering thing on the planet, wiping out races of animals. there needs to be something done to deal with this problem.

In africa, animals are poached for their ivory. we could either try to protect the rhinos and elephants, or, make the ivory seem less comely than it is at present.

First, it is not easy to be around endangered species all the time. it costs money and takes time, and, with the amounts paid to game rangers, it is often an inside job i figure. so, we need to make ivory obsolete! ivory is sought for fertility, so, why not sell viagra at common places in africa? the people that can afford the ivory can surely afford a proven replacement?

What goes through the mind of someone poaching the elephants? surely they are afraid of getting caught? the ivory needs to be hacked off an animal and such. it is probably the same outfit doing it al the time, as helicopters are expensive. for this reason, we could also deal with this problem by making it hard to poach, yes? this could be done by having the authorities place an order for ivory, paying them up front, then arresting them for suspected criminal activity, yes? there must be some super covert way to deal with this problem, and, maybe there could be a sponsor? the costs of raiding ivory dens and such could be replaced by placing orders for the stuff, and getting your money back.

Of course, then there is the other option of flooding the market with fake ivory! this would make all the men say it is rubbish and stuff.

Them there are other regions of the world where the sale of 'animal parts' takes place. this could be synthetically made in labs, yes? there is a d.n.a. code, and with the help of growth hormones, they could, for example, grow a monkey's hand with some d.n.a. and make a business out of it, driving poachers out of business.

Peter1469
11-29-2015, 08:24 AM
Stop buying the products.

Common
11-29-2015, 09:04 AM
I agree poachers that slaughter animals for tusks and horns just SUCK and worse yet are those that buy them and make them profit from it

When I was a very young man, shoe stores sold, Alligator Shoes, Kangaroo, lambskin, snakeskin and shoes made with many different kinds of leather. You paid a huge premium for some of them.

Even those that refused to buy those shoes because of the cruelty aspect, still bought shoes made of cowskin leather. Most all shoes were leather then, leather had to come from somewhere

del
11-29-2015, 10:42 AM
the key to poaching is to simmer not boil.

Captain Obvious
11-29-2015, 01:59 PM
the key to poaching is to simmer not boil.

Add a little salt too, not too much.

donttread
12-07-2015, 05:53 PM
Poaching is the most endangering thing on the planet, wiping out races of animals. there needs to be something done to deal with this problem.

In africa, animals are poached for their ivory. we could either try to protect the rhinos and elephants, or, make the ivory seem less comely than it is at present.

First, it is not easy to be around endangered species all the time. it costs money and takes time, and, with the amounts paid to game rangers, it is often an inside job i figure. so, we need to make ivory obsolete! ivory is sought for fertility, so, why not sell viagra at common places in africa? the people that can afford the ivory can surely afford a proven replacement?

What goes through the mind of someone poaching the elephants? surely they are afraid of getting caught? the ivory needs to be hacked off an animal and such. it is probably the same outfit doing it al the time, as helicopters are expensive. for this reason, we could also deal with this problem by making it hard to poach, yes? this could be done by having the authorities place an order for ivory, paying them up front, then arresting them for suspected criminal activity, yes? there must be some super covert way to deal with this problem, and, maybe there could be a sponsor? the costs of raiding ivory dens and such could be replaced by placing orders for the stuff, and getting your money back.

Of course, then there is the other option of flooding the market with fake ivory! this would make all the men say it is rubbish and stuff.

Them there are other regions of the world where the sale of 'animal parts' takes place. this could be synthetically made in labs, yes? there is a d.n.a. code, and with the help of growth hormones, they could, for example, grow a monkey's hand with some d.n.a. and make a business out of it, driving poachers out of business.

You're thinking of te big fish. But many involved in poaching, or killing manta rays or even cutting the rain forest are simply trying to feed their families

waltky
09-06-2018, 06:52 AM
One of the biggest slaughters in recent years...
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Scores of Dead Elephants Found in Botswana ‘Poaching Frenzy’
Sept. 4, 2018 — Some of the elephant corpses had begun to decay, their skins dried stiff over bony carcasses. Others appeared to have been freshly killed, partly covered by bushes in an attempt to hide them from view.



The tusks of 87 animals, which were counted during aerial surveys over the past few months in Botswana, had been chopped off — evidence of what conservationists are calling one of the biggest slaughters in recent years. Michael Chase, director of the charity Elephants Without Borders, which conducted the surveys, said he had never seen so many dead elephants in one go. After counting 48 during a single flight in August, Mr. Chase wrote in a report that the tally was “indicative of a poaching frenzy which has been ongoing in the same area for a long time.”


The numbers were expected to climb as the survey continues. But the results so far already signal a major escalation in elephant poaching, said Tom Milliken, a program manager at Traffic, a nonprofit organization that monitors wildlife smuggling. Botswana is home to the world’s largest elephant population, more than a third of all Africa’s elephants, according to the most recent Great Elephant Census (http://www.greatelephantcensus.com/), which Mr. Chase helped produce. It is also one of the most stable countries in Africa with one of the best wildlife records. The slaughter shows that despite all the time, money and energy poured into anti-poaching operations in recent years, organized poaching gangs can still wipe out large herds with impunity.





https://static01.nyt.com/images/2018/09/05/world/05elephants2-sub/merlin_143275482_91891fac-2e93-4c3d-ba90-8a05f1f741ee-articleLarge.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp&disable=upscale
An elephant corpse in Botswana. Despite bans on legal sales, demand for ivory remains sufficiently high to sustain underground markets.

Botswana was until recently considered a haven for the animals, with militarized patrols in protected areas and a contentious shoot-to-kill policy intended to deter poachers. This tough stance on poaching had made Botswana “the darling of the conservation world,” said Annette Hübschle, a researcher at the Center of Criminology at the University of Cape Town.But the policies did not address the underlying drivers of the illegal ivory trade. “The fortress conservation paradigm, or separating local people from wildlife and conservation, creates pathways to illegal economies,” Ms. Hübschle said. “Rural communities are likely to support poachers and poaching economies because there are no benefits to these conservation areas for them.”

If local communities experienced no direct benefit from conservation areas, “they may not turn to poaching, but they won’t support policing either,” Ms. Hübschle said. “You need to reach out to communities for conservation to work.” Despite bans on legal sales, demand for ivory remains sufficiently high to sustain underground markets. In many African countries, the money on offer has continued drawing poachers. “Rather than shooting poachers to kill them, we should be focusing on who’s controlling the trade,” Ms. Hübschle said. “Follow the money and target the intermediaries, and the organizers behind them.”

MORE (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/04/world/africa/elephants-botswana-poaching.html)

Mr.Soxes
09-06-2018, 04:56 PM
I take it putting YT back in control is out of the question?:shocked: