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Cigar
12-02-2015, 09:44 PM
He's something worse: a bullshit artist.
Falsehoods fly out of Donald Trump’s mouth with such unstoppable frequency that it’s tempting to describe him as a liar. Among the recent Trumpian untruths is his claim to have seen a video (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/) showing “thousands and thousands” of Muslim Americans cheering 9/11 in Jersey City, New Jersey, an event there is no record of, video or otherwise. Trump has also retweeted and vigorously defended the claim (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/) that 81 percent of whites who are murdered are killed by blacks (the actual number for last year is 15 percent). And he has asserted (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/18/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-obama-administration-pushing-ref/), contrary to fact, that the federal government is sending refugees to states with “Republicans, not to the Democrats.”

Yet the increasingly frequent tendency of Trump’s critics to label him a liar (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/11/23/donald-trump-is-constantly-lying/) is wrongheaded. Trump is something worse than a liar. He is a bullshit artist. In his 2005 book On Bullshit (http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html), Harry G. Frankfurt, emeritus philosophy professor at Princeton University, makes an important distinction between lying and bullshitting—one that is extremely useful for understanding the pernicious impact that Trump has on public life. Frankfurt’s key observation is that the liar, even as he or she might spread untruth, inhabits a universe where the distinction between truth and falsehood still matters. The bullshitter, by contrast, does not care what is true or not. By his or her bluffing, dissimilation, and general dishonesty, the bullshit artist works to erase the very possibility of knowing the truth. For this reason, bullshit is more dangerous than lies, since it erodes even the possibility of truth existing and being found.

https://newrepublic.com/article/124803/donald-trump-not-liar

Lawrence O'Donnell Blasts TV Media For Not Calling Donald Trump A Liar
MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell tore into television journalists on Tuesday for not calling Donald Trump a liar when he makes false claims on their programs.


"Donald Trump lies because he knows he can get away with it," O'Donnell said on "The Last Word," highlighting the interviewing techniques of anchors on Sunday morning news programs. "The most impolite candidate in American political history relies on the politeness of his interviewers to get away with lying."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lawrence-odonnell-donald-trump_5655d84ee4b072e9d1c15249

Private Pickle
12-02-2015, 10:12 PM
He's something worse: a bullshit artist.


Falsehoods fly out of Donald Trump’s mouth with such unstoppable frequency that it’s tempting to describe him as a liar. Among the recent Trumpian untruths is his claim to have seen a video (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/) showing “thousands and thousands” of Muslim Americans cheering 9/11 in Jersey City, New Jersey, an event there is no record of, video or otherwise. Trump has also retweeted and vigorously defended the claim (http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/) that 81 percent of whites who are murdered are killed by blacks (the actual number for last year is 15 percent). And he has asserted (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/18/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-obama-administration-pushing-ref/), contrary to fact, that the federal government is sending refugees to states with “Republicans, not to the Democrats.”

Yet the increasingly frequent tendency of Trump’s critics to label him a liar (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/11/23/donald-trump-is-constantly-lying/) is wrongheaded. Trump is something worse than a liar. He is a bullshit artist. In his 2005 book On Bullshit (http://press.princeton.edu/titles/7929.html), Harry G. Frankfurt, emeritus philosophy professor at Princeton University, makes an important distinction between lying and bullshitting—one that is extremely useful for understanding the pernicious impact that Trump has on public life. Frankfurt’s key observation is that the liar, even as he or she might spread untruth, inhabits a universe where the distinction between truth and falsehood still matters. The bullshitter, by contrast, does not care what is true or not. By his or her bluffing, dissimilation, and general dishonesty, the bullshit artist works to erase the very possibility of knowing the truth. For this reason, bullshit is more dangerous than lies, since it erodes even the possibility of truth existing and being found.

https://newrepublic.com/article/124803/donald-trump-not-liar

Lawrence O'Donnell Blasts TV Media For Not Calling Donald Trump A Liar


MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell tore into television journalists on Tuesday for not calling Donald Trump a liar when he makes false claims on their programs.


"Donald Trump lies because he knows he can get away with it," O'Donnell said on "The Last Word," highlighting the interviewing techniques of anchors on Sunday morning news programs. "The most impolite candidate in American political history relies on the politeness of his interviewers to get away with lying."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lawrence-odonnell-donald-trump_5655d84ee4b072e9d1c15249

Let me guess...you're voting from for Hillary? Typical house n***er.

Stop the racist baiting. You were already infracted for this. 24 in Hole.

Chris
12-02-2015, 10:28 PM
Closed for further review.

Moved to rants. Still discussing.

Don't retaliate then report a post. Especially in kind. Retaliation will be considered the same punishment in the future.

AeonPax
12-03-2015, 03:48 AM
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What is even more frightening is that there are millions of Americans who believe him without question.

Matty
12-03-2015, 05:33 AM
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What is even more frightening is that there are millions of Americans who believe him without question.


Like you believed Obama?

hanger4
12-03-2015, 07:18 AM
Call me when Lawrence O'Donnell blasts TV media for not calling Hillary Clinton a liar. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Cigar
12-03-2015, 07:59 AM
Call me when Lawrence O'Donnell blasts TV media for not calling Hillary Clinton a liar. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
@hanger4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=403) What's your Number? :grin:

MSNBC’s O’Donnell: Hillary’s Private E-Mail Server ‘Absolutely Unacceptable’

While O’Donnell said that he doubted that Clinton’s unreleased e-mails contain “any big smoking gun,” he remained staunchly critical of her failure to follow federal record-keeping protocols.

”It goes back to the original issue which is the proper custodial preservation of State Department e-mails and all of the rules and protocols on that were violated,” O’Donnell said to Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough. “There is no question about it. It was very clearly in violation.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420551/msnbcs-odonnell-hillarys-private-e-mail-server-absolutely-unacceptable-julia




NEXT!

Cigar
12-03-2015, 08:02 AM
Closed for further review.

Moved to rants. Still discussing.

Don't retaliate then report a post. Especially in kind. Retaliation will be considered the same punishment in the future.

Ok sorry ... but actually I reported it right away ... then waited awhile ... but couldn't resist the huge opening :grin: My Bad

hanger4
12-03-2015, 08:21 AM
@hanger4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=403) What's your Number? :grin:

MSNBC’s O’Donnell: Hillary’s Private E-Mail Server ‘Absolutely Unacceptable’

While O’Donnell said that he doubted that Clinton’s unreleased e-mails contain “any big smoking gun,” he remained staunchly critical of her failure to follow federal record-keeping protocols.

”It goes back to the original issue which is the proper custodial preservation of State Department e-mails and all of the rules and protocols on that were violated,” O’Donnell said to Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough. “There is no question about it. It was very clearly in violation.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420551/msnbcs-odonnell-hillarys-private-e-mail-server-absolutely-unacceptable-julia




NEXT!
Like I said CALL me WHEN Lawrence O'Donnell blasts TV media for not calling Hillary Clinton a liar. It seems you're unfamiliar with what a lie is. ...... Maybe this will help; ..... Lie, an intentionally false statement.

Mini Me
12-03-2015, 11:28 AM
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What is even more frightening is that there are millions of Americans who believe him without question.

I hate to go all Godwin on this, But I remember a dude named Hitler who had millions believing him!

I'm not calling T.Rump a fascist, he sure is using fascist tactics!

AeonPax
12-03-2015, 11:41 AM
Like you believed Obama?
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As a matter of fact, at one time; yes. That's why I voted for him in 2008. However, it took me a little over a year to find out he's a lying, war mongering, corporate puppet. I voted third party in 2012.

Cigar
12-03-2015, 11:53 AM
Like I said CALL me WHEN Lawrence O'Donnell blasts TV media for not calling Hillary Clinton a liar. It seems you're unfamiliar with what a lie is. ...... Maybe this will help; ..... Lie, an intentionally false statement.

Maybe you're unfamiliar with evidence ... try checking with one of the 3 GOP House Select
Committees

:laugh:

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/10/Hillary-Clinton-chin-Getty-640x480.jpg

Come-On dude, don't tell me Hillary is too smart for you guys. :laugh: