San Bernardino Attack ~ Man who bought guns used by terrorists has disappeared ?

[exotix]

Today

FBI Searches Home of Farook Friend Who Bought Guns

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/fbi-searches-home-farook-friend-who-bought-guns-n474911

http://abcnews.go.com/US/neighbor-purportedly-bought-assault-style-weapons-san-bernardino/story?id=35599482


Neighbor Purportedly Bought 'Assault-Style' Weapons Used in San Bernardino Rampage


NBC News has learned that early Saturday the FBI searched the Riverside, California home of Enrique Marquez, the man authorities believe originally bought the assault rifles used in the San Bernardino shooting rampage that killed 14.

An FBI official said that Marquez is not considered a suspect in the shooting.

During the search of Marquez's home, neighbors say, agents cut open the garage door with blow torches, used bomb-sniffing dogs, and temporarily detained his father and younger brother.

The man's father told NBC News Saturday afternoon that he does not know where Marquez is and declined further comment.



http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/US/HT_guns_bc_151203_12x5_1600.jpg

[Mister D]

Looks like a classic straw purchase. He fled because it's a felony.

[exotix]

Looks like a classic straw purchase. He fled because it's a felony.Looks like he's gonna need Ted Cruz ... Harvard Attorney ... to defend 'em on this one.

[Mister D]

Sorry, I forgot you were crazy.

[exotix]

Sorry, I forgot you were crazy.Yes ? How'bout the Zimmy attorneys ?

[Private Pickle]

Marquez is in Mexico by now.

[Private Pickle]

Yes ? How'bout the Zimmy attorneys ?

No. They were smart.

[MisterVeritis]

Today

FBI Searches Home of Farook Friend Who Bought Guns

Neighbor Purportedly Bought 'Assault-Style' Weapons Used in San Bernardino Rampage


NBC News has learned that early Saturday the FBI searched the Riverside, California home of Enrique Marquez, the man authorities believe originally bought the assault rifles used in the San Bernardino shooting rampage that killed 14.


http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/US/HT_guns_bc_151203_12x5_1600.jpg
What makes a semi-automatic rifle an assault rifle in the minds of the Leftists? Is it because they are black and look scary?

[exotix]

What makes a semi-automatic rifle an assault rifle in the minds of the Leftists? Is it because they are black and look scary?Why ? Does one blow the heads off of men, women, children and kindergartners different than the other one ?

[MisterVeritis]

Why ? Does one blow the heads off of men, women, children and kindergartners different than the other one ?
You are a leftist. You tell me. Why do Leftists feel compelled to label some rifles "assault" rifles? Is it the same reason that you have a war on carbon dioxide, something we exhale but feel the need to call it carbon to imply it is hard, black and dirty?

[exotix]

You are a leftist. You tell me. Why do Leftists feel compelled to label some rifles "assault" rifles? Is it the same reason that you have a war on carbon dioxide, something we exhale but feel the need to call it carbon to imply it is hard, black and dirty?
I was just curious if one is used for enemy combatants and one used for civilians who may not know they're enemy combatants that's all.

[MisterVeritis]

I was just curious if one is used for enemy combatants and one used for civilians who may not know they're enemy combatants that's all.
In other words, you do not know what you are talking about. Thanks.

[zelmo1234]

Yes ? How'bout the Zimmy attorneys ?

Well they did a very good job getting an innocent man off on some trumped up charges by the racist democrats.

[zelmo1234]

Marquez is in Mexico by now.

I don't think so, if he was an illegal the Lefties would be protecting him. Not looking for his head on a pike.

[zelmo1234]

Why ? Does one blow the heads off of men, women, children and kindergartners different than the other one ?

Yes actually is does, while the ones pictured above will kill people as we can see they are much better suited for killing varmints.

It would really take a lot of work to blow some ones head off?

But liberals don't care about facts, they just want the scary ones ban

[Private Pickle]

I don't think so, if he was an illegal the Lefties would be protecting him. Not looking for his head on a pike.

You don't have to be illegal to go to Mexico...

[exotix]

Yes actually is does, while the ones pictured above will kill people as we can see they are much better suited for killing varmints.

It would really take a lot of work to blow some ones head off?

But liberals don't care about facts, they just want the scary ones banThat's how you justify it ... simply view men, women, children and kindergartners as varmints ... that's how they did it back in 1933 Germany.

[zelmo1234]

You don't have to be illegal to go to Mexico...

If he went legally they would have a record of it? Should not be that hard to find him.

[Private Pickle]

If he went legally they would have a record of it? Should not be that hard to find him.

No they wouldn't. Have you ever crossed the border from San Diego to Tijuana?

[Safety]

Looks like a classic straw purchase. He fled because it's a felony.

yup.

[zelmo1234]

That's how you justify it ... simply view men, women, children and kindergartners as varmints ... that's how they did it back in 1933 Germany.

No I am saying that you are not smart enough to understand that those rifles are not that powerful.

But liberals generally don't have the brains to pour piss out of a boot if the directions were on the bottom of the heal, so don't feel bad.

[MisterVeritis]

That's how you justify it ... simply view men, women, children and kindergartners as varmints ... that's how they did it back in 1933 Germany.
You never did answer the question. As a radical leftist why do you feel compelled to label some semiautomatic weapons as "assault" rifles?

[exotix]

No I am saying that you are not smart enough to understand that those rifles are not that powerful.

But liberals generally don't have the brains to pour piss out of a boot if the directions were on the bottom of the heal, so don't feel bad.
You never did answer the question. As a radical leftist why do you feel compelled to label some semiautomatic weapons as "assault" rifles?You have to be utterly wacked to call it a varmint assault-weapon.

[MisterVeritis]

"You never did answer the question. As a radical leftist why do you feel compelled to label some semiautomatic weapons as "assault" rifles?"

You have to be utterly wacked to call it a varmint assault-weapon.
I see you have retained your inability to actually answer a reasonable question.

[Cigar]

"You never did answer the question. As a radical leftist why do you feel compelled to label some semiautomatic weapons as "assault" rifles?"

I see you have retained your inability to actually answer a reasonable question.

Why don't we just called them Deer Riffles?

[Bo-4]

"You never did answer the question. As a radical leftist why do you feel compelled to label some semiautomatic weapons as "assault" rifles?"

I see you have retained your inability to actually answer a reasonable question.

Sorry dude, but the definition includes semi-automatics.

Merriam Webster

Assault weapon



any of various automatic or semiautomatic firearms; especially : assault rifle (http://beta.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault+rifle)








Assault weapon is a term used in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) to define some types of firearms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Goode130116-1) The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm) with a detachable magazine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_(firearms)) and a pistol grip (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_grip), and sometimes other features such as a flash suppressor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_suppressor) or barrel shroud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_shroud).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Goode130116-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Babay121222-2) Some firearms are specified by name.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Levs130131-3) At the time that the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban) passed in 1994, the U.S. Justice Department (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Justice_Department) said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use."[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Levs130131-3) The origin of the term is muddled and has been attributed to politicians, gun control groups, the media, and the firearms industry itself.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Tartaro1995-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Blake130117-5)[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Kauffman121218-6)[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Goode130116-1) It is sometimes conflated with the term "assault rifle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle)," which refers to selective fire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_fire) military rifles that can fire in automatic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_firearm) and burst mode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burst_mode_(weapon)).[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Blake130117-5)

[Crepitus]

Well they did a very good job getting an innocent man off on some trumped up charges by the racist democrats.
You misspelled "dumbass rambo wannabe".

[Crepitus]

Yes actually is does, while the ones pictured above will kill people as we can see they are much better suited for killing varmints.

It would really take a lot of work to blow some ones head off?

But liberals don't care about facts, they just want the scary ones ban
And how are those "much better suited for killing varmints"?

[domer76]

I don't think so, if he was an illegal the Lefties would be protecting him. Not looking for his head on a pike.

More "if/would" bullshit. Why can't you ever formulate a cogent argument?

[domer76]

No I am saying that you are not smart enough to understand that those rifles are not that powerful.

But liberals generally don't have the brains to pour piss out of a boot if the directions were on the bottom of the heal, so don't feel bad.

They are powerful enough to kill a lot of people in very little time. What the fuck is wrong with you?

[HoneyBadger]

Sorry dude, but the definition includes semi-automatics.

Merriam Webster

Assault weapon



any of various automatic or semiautomatic firearms; especially : assault rifle (http://beta.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault+rifle)







Assault weapon is a term used in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) to define some types of firearms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Goode130116-1) The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm) with a detachable magazine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_(firearms)) and a pistol grip (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_grip), and sometimes other features such as a flash suppressor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_suppressor) or barrel shroud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_shroud).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Goode130116-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Babay121222-2) Some firearms are specified by name.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Levs130131-3) At the time that the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban) passed in 1994, the U.S. Justice Department (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Justice_Department) said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use."[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Levs130131-3) The origin of the term is muddled and has been attributed to politicians, gun control groups, the media, and the firearms industry itself.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Tartaro1995-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Blake130117-5)[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Kauffman121218-6)[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Goode130116-1) It is sometimes conflated with the term "assault rifle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle)," which refers to selective fire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_fire) military rifles that can fire in automatic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_firearm) and burst mode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burst_mode_(weapon)).[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Blake130117-5)

What's the difference between this:

http://thepoliticalforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13673&stc=1


And this:

http://thepoliticalforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13674&stc=1

They are both the same rifle. They fire the exact same round. The have the same internal parts.
The only difference is that one has a wood stock and the other has "scary" furniture.

[zelmo1234]

Why don't we just called them Deer Riffles?

because in most states it is illegal to hunt deer with them, they are not a large enough caliber to humanly kill deer

[Cigar]

because in most states it is illegal to hunt deer with them, they are not a large enough caliber to humanly kill deer

:f_cheers: Because they're not designed or built to be human.

[zelmo1234]

You misspelled "dumbass rambo wannabe".

That maybe, but if the wannabe thug Travon did not attack him and tell him that he was going to die, Travon would be alive today

Better to let sleeping dongs lie. Zimmerman was found not guilty of any crimes. The fact that he is a wannabe cop or Rambo, makes not difference

[Cigar]

What's the difference between this:

http://thepoliticalforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13673&stc=1


And this:

http://thepoliticalforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13674&stc=1

They are both the same rifle. They fire the exact same round. The have the same internal parts.
The only difference is that one has a wood stock and the other has "scary" furniture.

Don't forget down range accuracy.

[Bo-4]

What's the difference between this:

And this:

They are both the same rifle. They fire the exact same round. The have the same internal parts.

The only difference is that one has a wood stock and the other has "scary" furniture.

No, your wood rifle doesn't have the features as defined in my post:

detachable mag, pistol grip, & sometimes a flash suppressor & barrel shroud.

[Cigar]

:rollseyes: Well so much for this debate ...

At lease I can't be blamed for bring race into it this time.

[Bo-4]

Don't forget down range accuracy.

Ooof that hadda sting - yes .. i am oft amused by barrel strokers claiming that semi-auto assault weapons are AWESOME for hunting.

:D

[Crepitus]

That maybe, but if the wannabe thug Travon did not attack him and tell him that he was going to die, Travon would be alive today

Better to let sleeping dongs lie. Zimmerman was found not guilty of any crimes. The fact that he is a wannabe cop or Rambo, makes not difference
Not arguing it wasn't a fucked up deal all the way thought, but neither one was innocent.

[zelmo1234]

:f_cheers: Because they're not designed or built to be human.

No it is because they deer would take too long to die and would not be recovered by the Hunter.

But once again here is the picture

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/stephenkingbloopers/images/f/f8/22_223_30-06.png/revision/latest?cb=20130411005522 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiU6bPJi8jJAhWDt4MKHVCTA4IQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstephenkingbloopers.wikia.com%2Fw iki%2FFirearm_errors&psig=AFQjCNGEBVJAZZdthl4peGLOwUPJbN4OlA&ust=1449520691042733)

Of course the .22lr is only good for squirrels and Rabbits with dogs.

the .223 or 5.56 NATO is the rifle that was used in the shootings. and Hunters would use if for Woodchucks, Prairie Dogs, Coyotes

The 30-06 is the most popular deer hinging cartridge.

But you are a gun owner, surely you understand that? Right?

[Bo-4]

:rollseyes: Well so much for this debate ...

At lease I can't be blamed for bring race into it this time.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7GQSe3WBVyo/UX-Gk3HFFZI/AAAAAAAALgA/IsX2Q7gZiu8/s1600/abandon-thread.gif

[zelmo1234]

And how are those "much better suited for killing varmints"?

Because they shoot very flat, and will expand very quickly and not over penetrate. in other words they won't exit the body of a varmint .

[zelmo1234]

More "if/would" bull$#@!. Why can't you ever formulate a cogent argument?

NO liberals NEVER protect illegal immigrants. even when the know they are felons.

They never support sanctuary cites or anything like that? What could I have possibly been thinking

Why do't you just have the balls to own up to the fact that liberals will not accuse illegals of even breaking the law.

[zelmo1234]

They are powerful enough to kill a lot of people in very little time. What the $#@! is wrong with you?

Yes so is a hammer if used properly. What I am saying is if it was the big bad blow your head of gun that Exotix was making it out to be, there would not be 17 injured people, most of them would be dead.

[zelmo1234]

Don't forget down range accuracy.

You are correct, the one with the wood stock has a longer barrel and would make it much more accurate down range.

Thanks for bringing that up

[zelmo1234]

No, your wood rifle doesn't have the features as defined in my post:

detachable mag, pistol grip, & sometimes a flash suppressor & barrel shroud.

Actually it has all of those. the pistol grip is made into the wood stock the mags are actually interchangeable and most of the ranch rifles come with a flash suppressor

[zelmo1234]

:rollseyes: Well so much for this debate ...

At lease I can't be blamed for bring race into it this time.

Thank You for that. And it is clear that many on the left, don't understand how firearms work

[zelmo1234]

Ooof that hadda sting - yes .. i am oft amused by barrel strokers claiming that semi-auto assault weapons are AWESOME for hunting.

:D

OK which one is the perfect deer rifle and which one is way to powerful and should not be used for hunting

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTP0Fe3Hgi-tq2btT6p3m54xexPJWd3o-Ra4-nen5j4LwkkqChA2w

http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2011/08/01/171232_02_browning_bar_308_semi_auto_rif_640.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiJjYaij8jJAhUHoYMKHW7tAMwQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.armslist.com%2Fposts%2F171232 %2Fcharlotte-north-carolina-rifles-for-sale--browning-bar--308-semi-auto-rifle&bvm=bv.108538919,d.amc&psig=AFQjCNFBW5oKhuHR_UCOq7YK-S_Crq2WSw&ust=1449521650923947)

[domer76]

NO liberals NEVER protect illegal immigrants. even when the know they are felons.

They never support sanctuary cites or anything like that? What could I have possibly been thinking

Why do't you just have the balls to own up to the fact that liberals will not accuse illegals of even breaking the law.

Why don't you fess up to the fact that you are FOS on most of your posts and have to concoct mythical scenarios to make your "argument"?

[domer76]

Yes so is a hammer if used properly. What I am saying is if it was the big bad blow your head of gun that Exotix was making it out to be, there would not be 17 injured people, most of them would be dead.

A hammer for mass murders? What the fuck is wrong with you?

[zelmo1234]

Why don't you fess up to the fact that you are FOS on most of your posts and have to concoct mythical scenarios to make your "argument"?

Right it never happens?

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/07/10/kathryn-steinle-32-killed-by-illegal-alien-laid-to-rest/

Liberals never protect illegal felons

[zelmo1234]

Well it looks like the facts came out and the liberals don't want to discuss guns anymore?

[Bo-4]

NO liberals NEVER protect illegal immigrants. even when the know they are felons.

They never support sanctuary cites or anything like that? What could I have possibly been thinking

Why do't you just have the balls to own up to the fact that liberals will not accuse illegals of even breaking the law.

Things you should know about "Sanctuary Cities" ..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/08/4-big-things-to-know-about-sanctuary-cities-and-illegal-immigration/

[zelmo1234]

Things you should know about "Sanctuary Cities" ..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/08/4-big-things-to-know-about-sanctuary-cities-and-illegal-immigration/

So are you saying that it did not happen?????

[Bo-4]

Thank You for that. And it is clear that many on the left, don't understand how firearms work

HuH?

Seems to me the Cigar was posting about the tone this thread has taken and not about "how firearms work".

That said, i find it hilarious that if one doesn't know the difference between a mag and a clip, one isn't qualified to comment in any manner about guns.

RED herring my friend.

[Subdermal]

HuH?

Seems to me the Cigar was posting about the tone this thread has taken and not about "how firearms work".

That said, i find it hilarious that if one doesn't know the difference between a mag and a clip, one isn't qualified to comment in any manner about guns.

RED herring my friend.

Protip: we're not your friends.

[domer76]

Right it never happens?

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/07/10/kathryn-steinle-32-killed-by-illegal-alien-laid-to-rest/

Liberals never protect illegal felons

This was your post:

"I don't think so, if he was an illegal the Lefties would be protecting him."


An absolute and concocted "if/would" piece of bullshit that you can't defend.

[zelmo1234]

This was your post:

"I don't think so, if he was an illegal the Lefties would be protecting him."


An absolute and concocted "if/would" piece of bull$#@! that you can't defend.

Well if you lefties don't like comments like this, then stop protecting and demanding protection for illegals

[Crepitus]

Because they shoot very flat, and will expand very quickly and not over penetrate. in other words they won't exit the body of a varmint .
Works well on people too, you sure that wan't what the designers had in mind?

[domer76]

Well if you lefties don't like comments like this, then stop protecting and demanding protection for illegals

I said nothing about liking it or not. I said it was concocted "if/would" bullshit.

[Cigar]

Today

FBI Searches Home of Farook Friend Who Bought Guns

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/fbi-searches-home-farook-friend-who-bought-guns-n474911

http://abcnews.go.com/US/neighbor-purportedly-bought-assault-style-weapons-san-bernardino/story?id=35599482


Neighbor Purportedly Bought 'Assault-Style' Weapons Used in San Bernardino Rampage


NBC News has learned that early Saturday the FBI searched the Riverside, California home of Enrique Marquez, the man authorities believe originally bought the assault rifles used in the San Bernardino shooting rampage that killed 14.

An FBI official said that Marquez is not considered a suspect in the shooting.

During the search of Marquez's home, neighbors say, agents cut open the garage door with blow torches, used bomb-sniffing dogs, and temporarily detained his father and younger brother.

The man's father told NBC News Saturday afternoon that he does not know where Marquez is and declined further comment.



http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/US/HT_guns_bc_151203_12x5_1600.jpg


I thought I heard this morning that he checked himself into a hospital due to stress ... :huh:

[Cigar]

Photo of neighbor who purportedly bought 'assault-style' rifles used in San Bernardino attackhttp://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kabc/images/cms/1111936_630x354.jpg

Eyewitness News obtained a photo of San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook's former neighbor, Enrique Marquez, who allegedly bought two of the four weapons used in Wednesday's massacre.

Marquez allegedly purchased the two "assault-style" rifles over three years ago. Authorities haven't been able to talk to him because he checked himself into a mental hospital after the attack, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

Authorities with guns drawn raided Marquez's home in Riverside early Saturday, breaking windows and using a cutting torch to get into the garage, neighbors said.

FBI Director James Comey said the gun purchaser was "not a suspect, at least at this point."

Neighbors say Marquez lives in the Riverside home with his mother, stepdad and other siblings and that he mostly kept to himself.

http://abc7.com/news/photo-of-neighbor-who-purportedly-bought-2-rifles-used-in-san-bernardino-attack/1111930/

[ThaiBoxer]

Today

FBI Searches Home of Farook Friend Who Bought Guns

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/fbi-searches-home-farook-friend-who-bought-guns-n474911

http://abcnews.go.com/US/neighbor-purportedly-bought-assault-style-weapons-san-bernardino/story?id=35599482


Neighbor Purportedly Bought 'Assault-Style' Weapons Used in San Bernardino Rampage


NBC News has learned that early Saturday the FBI searched the Riverside, California home of Enrique Marquez, the man authorities believe originally bought the assault rifles used in the San Bernardino shooting rampage that killed 14.

An FBI official said that Marquez is not considered a suspect in the shooting.

During the search of Marquez's home, neighbors say, agents cut open the garage door with blow torches, used bomb-sniffing dogs, and temporarily detained his father and younger brother.

The man's father told NBC News Saturday afternoon that he does not know where Marquez is and declined further comment.


Doesn't matter what happens. Their guns are more important than the innocent lives of those people. The right is selfish like that. It's always all about them. People can keep getting slaughtered over and over and they'll be like "Ya aint cumin fer ma guns!"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XnuNa0VvofE/UXAzZGe0eNI/AAAAAAAACtA/uW2hRZZ7WxY/s1600/gun-nut2.jpg

[Private Pickle]

Doesn't matter what happens. Their guns are more important than the innocent lives of those people. The right is selfish like that. It's always all about them. People can keep getting slaughtered over and over and they'll be like "Ya aint cumin fer ma guns!"

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XnuNa0VvofE/UXAzZGe0eNI/AAAAAAAACtA/uW2hRZZ7WxY/s1600/gun-nut2.jpg

You are correct. The guns are more important than the lives taken by them.

[ThaiBoxer]

You are correct. The guns are more important than the lives taken by them.

At least you admit to being a psychopath

[Cigar]

You are correct. The guns are more important than the lives taken by them.

Thank You for your Honesty, I wish others where just as honest as you.

[Safety]

because in most states it is illegal to hunt deer with them, they are not a large enough caliber to humanly kill deer

That's why I'm a big proponent of shot placement.

[Private Pickle]

At least you admit to being a psychopath

Yeah. Freedom is just so cray cray!

[Cletus]

Looks like a classic straw purchase. He fled because it's a felony.

If, as reported, he bought the guns three years ago, a straw purchase charge probably would not hold up. For a straw purchase charge to be valid, the buyer must purchase the guns from a licensed dealer with the intent of transferring them to someone not legally eligible to purchase a firearm. If he bought those guns and sold them say, a year later, there is no way a straw purchase charge would stick.

[Captain Obvious]

Yeah. Freedom is just so cray cray!

That undoubtedly will go way over his head.

[Mister D]

If, as reported, he bought the guns three years ago, a straw purchase charge probably would not hold up. For a straw purchase charge to be valid, the buyer must purchase the guns from a licensed dealer with the intent of transferring them to someone not legally eligible to purchase a firearm. If he bought those gins and sold them say, a year later, there is no way a straw purchase charge would stick.

I agree. That's what it looked like at first though.

[Cletus]

Ooof that hadda sting - yes .. i am oft amused by barrel strokers claiming that semi-auto assault weapons are AWESOME for hunting.

:D

Some would be if used for that purpose.

[Cletus]

You are correct, the one with the wood stock has a longer barrel and would make it much more accurate down range.

Thanks for bringing that up

Same barrel length. The flash suppressor on the pimped out one makes it look longer, but the barrel is the same length on both of them.

[HoneyBadger]

No, your wood rifle doesn't have the features as defined in my post:

detachable mag, pistol grip, & sometimes a flash suppressor & barrel shroud.




Both rifles are Ruger Mini-14's. They look different on the outside but internally they are the exact same rifle. One is not more inherently dangerous or deadly than the other so calling one an "assault rifle" is a garbage designation from people who know nothing about firearms.

[HoneyBadger]

You are correct, the one with the wood stock has a longer barrel and would make it much more accurate down range.

Thanks for bringing that up

Nope. Same rifle, different furniture.

[donttread]

I agree. That's what it looked like at first though.

Oh God, I can hear the control freaks screaming for more ineffective laws .

[Mister D]

Oh God, I can hear the control freaks screaming for more ineffective laws .

That's a given.

[MisterVeritis]

Sorry dude, but the definition includes semi-automatics.

Merriam Webster

Assault weapon



any of various automatic or semiautomatic firearms; especially : assault rifle (http://beta.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assault+rifle)






Assault weapon is a term used in the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) to define some types of firearms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Goode130116-1) The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions, but usually includes semi-automatic firearms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-automatic_firearm) with a detachable magazine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_(firearms)) and a pistol grip (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_grip), and sometimes other features such as a flash suppressor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_suppressor) or barrel shroud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_shroud).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Goode130116-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Babay121222-2) Some firearms are specified by name.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Levs130131-3) At the time that the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban) passed in 1994, the U.S. Justice Department (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Justice_Department) said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use."[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Levs130131-3) The origin of the term is muddled and has been attributed to politicians, gun control groups, the media, and the firearms industry itself.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Tartaro1995-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Blake130117-5)[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Kauffman121218-6)[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Goode130116-1) It is sometimes conflated with the term "assault rifle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle)," which refers to selective fire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_fire) military rifles that can fire in automatic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_firearm) and burst mode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burst_mode_(weapon)).[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#cite_note-Blake130117-5)
It is a political term used by weapons illiterates. Congratulations. Ignorance has made it into the dictionary.

The origin of the term is muddled? No, it is a left wing political term intended to confuse.

[Safety]

At least you admit to being a psychopath

Please address the post and not the poster

[Subdermal]

Doesn't matter what happens. Their guns are more important than the innocent lives of those people. The right is selfish like that. It's always all about them. People can keep getting slaughtered over and over and they'll be like "Ya aint cumin fer ma guns!"

I'm not a big fan of getting into a battle of wits with the defenseless, but it's important to point out that the Founding Fathers must have felt exactly the same way, having made the Right to Keep and Bear Arms a cornerstone of the Constitution - after having supported fighting and dying to establish and defend just exactly such a Right.

It's a shame that the Left has such few and stupid things they consider important enough to die for.

[Mac-7]

Today

FBI Searches Home of Farook Friend Who Bought Guns

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/fbi-searches-home-farook-friend-who-bought-guns-n474911

http://abcnews.go.com/US/neighbor-purportedly-bought-assault-style-weapons-san-bernardino/story?id=35599482


Neighbor Purportedly Bought 'Assault-Style' Weapons Used in San Bernardino Rampage


NBC News has learned that early Saturday the FBI searched the Riverside, California home of Enrique Marquez, the man authorities believe originally bought the assault rifles used in the San Bernardino shooting rampage that killed 14.

An FBI official said that Marquez is not considered a suspect in the shooting.

During the search of Marquez's home, neighbors say, agents cut open the garage door with blow torches, used bomb-sniffing dogs, and temporarily detained his father and younger brother.

The man's father told NBC News Saturday afternoon that he does not know where Marquez is and declined further comment.



http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/US/HT_guns_bc_151203_12x5_1600.jpg

I wonder where enrique was born?

[Crepitus]

Oh God, I can hear the control freaks screaming for more ineffective laws .
https://i.imgflip.com/qml1e.jpg

[Crepitus]

OK which one is the perfect deer rifle and which one is way to powerful and should not be used for hunting

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTP0Fe3Hgi-tq2btT6p3m54xexPJWd3o-Ra4-nen5j4LwkkqChA2w

http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2011/08/01/171232_02_browning_bar_308_semi_auto_rif_640.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiJjYaij8jJAhUHoYMKHW7tAMwQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.armslist.com%2Fposts%2F171232 %2Fcharlotte-north-carolina-rifles-for-sale--browning-bar--308-semi-auto-rifle&bvm=bv.108538919,d.amc&psig=AFQjCNFBW5oKhuHR_UCOq7YK-S_Crq2WSw&ust=1449521650923947)
The BAR is a great deer rifle.

The other one is maybe a Sig with way to much "tactical" crap stuck to it?

[Crepitus]

Photo of neighbor who purportedly bought 'assault-style' rifles used in San Bernardino attack

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kabc/images/cms/1111936_630x354.jpg

Eyewitness News obtained a photo of San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook's former neighbor, Enrique Marquez, who allegedly bought two of the four weapons used in Wednesday's massacre.

Marquez allegedly purchased the two "assault-style" rifles over three years ago. Authorities haven't been able to talk to him because he checked himself into a mental hospital after the attack, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press.

Authorities with guns drawn raided Marquez's home in Riverside early Saturday, breaking windows and using a cutting torch to get into the garage, neighbors said.

FBI Director James Comey said the gun purchaser was "not a suspect, at least at this point."

Neighbors say Marquez lives in the Riverside home with his mother, stepdad and other siblings and that he mostly kept to himself.

http://abc7.com/news/photo-of-neighbor-who-purportedly-bought-2-rifles-used-in-san-bernardino-attack/1111930/
He looks like a nice, stable, fella.

[Mister D]

He looks like a nice, stable, fella.

Not a very flattering photo that's for sure.

[Mister D]

Anyone ever see Weapon Hunter. The guy travels around looking for antique and historical weapons that are still functional. Anyway, he got to fire one of these;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StG_44

It was the first assault rifle ever made.

[Subdermal]

https://i.imgflip.com/qml1e.jpg

Calling such a thing a straw man and actually establishing that it is a straw man are two entirely different things: doubtless why you resorted to a meme, rather than an argument.

[donttread]

Pretty sure these guns and or ammo clips were already illegal under our current unenforceable gun laws

[Crepitus]

Calling such a thing a straw man and actually establishing that it is a straw man are two entirely different things: doubtless why you resorted to a meme, rather than an argument.
Actually I resorted to a meme because I'm tired of having the argument, but here goes:

If this is true than we might as well not have laws against theft, murder, drunk driving, and any number of other things because if criminals don't listen then why bother?

[MisterVeritis]

Pretty sure these guns and or ammo clips were already illegal under our current unenforceable gun laws
Weren't they magazines?
AR-15s are legal except in really idiotic states.

[zelmo1234]

Actually I resorted to a meme because I'm tired of having the argument, but here goes:

If this is true than we might as well not have laws against theft, murder, drunk driving, and any number of other things because if criminals don't listen then why bother?

Usually on the items listed above, the government does not choose to not prosecute people so the number of crimes increase, and they are able to pass more laws, With gun laws, that is exactly what Democrats do.

[Crepitus]

Usually on the items listed above, the government does not choose to not prosecute people so the number of crimes increase, and they are able to pass more laws, With gun laws, that is exactly what Democrats do.
Uhhh, Whut?

[jimmyz]

No, your wood rifle doesn't have the features as defined in my post:

detachable mag, pistol grip, & sometimes a flash suppressor & barrel shroud.

Both of those rifles have detachable magazines. The one on top just doesn't have one inserted. The 16" barrel and fire control parts are identical. The scary one has a muzzle brake/flash hider installed. Both rifles are made by Ruger.

[jimmyz]

Don't forget down range accuracy.They both have identical barrel length and shoot the same caliber bullet. "down range accuracy" would be the same.

[jimmyz]

You are correct, the one with the wood stock has a longer barrel and would make it much more accurate down range.

Thanks for bringing that up

They are both 16" Ruger barrels.

[jimmyz]

*My last three posts posted before reading entire thread and similar comments by other posters*

[zelmo1234]

Uhhh, Whut?

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gun-prosecutions-under-obama-down-more-than-45-percent/article/2516175

Democrats don't prosecute Gun Crimes so they can pass more gun laws.

[zelmo1234]

They are both 16" Ruger barrels.

Is that the Ranch Rifle? it looked like it to me. If it was the barrel is 18"

[Crepitus]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gun-prosecutions-under-obama-down-more-than-45-percent/article/2516175

Democrats don't prosecute Gun Crimes so they can pass more gun laws.
Dude! Stop listening to that crap, it's gonna rot your brain!

LMAO!

[jimmyz]

Is that the Ranch Rifle? it looked like it to me. If it was the barrel is 18"

You are correct. The Mini-14 Ranch Rifle is 18.5" to be exact. The SR-556 is at 16.12". I stand corrected. Thank you.

Link - http://www.ruger.com/products/sr556Carbine/models.html

[zelmo1234]

Dude! Stop listening to that crap, it's gonna rot your brain!

LMAO!

You didn't go far enough to see that it was FBI statistic did you?

So As a person of the left you have a choice to make

Either Gun Prosecution is down 45% because it is so safe out there that the CPL and CCW programs are working and there is no need for new Gun legislation?

OR

The President and his administration have chosen to be soft on Gun Crimes to pad the statistics and hopefully get the people to demand more Gun control?

I also Give you the Fast and Furious Program to study if you are having trouble making up your mind.

[zelmo1234]

You are correct. The Mini-14 Ranch Rifle is 18.5" to be exact. The SR-556 is at 16.12". I stand corrected. Thank you.

Link - http://www.ruger.com/products/sr556Carbine/models.html

Even a blind Squirrel finds a nut every now and then. I am a Ruger buff, only reason that I knew that.