Donald Trump Unites Democrats, Republicans Against His Plan to Bar Muslims From Enter

[TrueBlue]

Donald Trump Unites Democrats, Republicans Against His Plan to Bar Muslims From Entering US
By Ali Weinberg

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-unites-democrats-republicans-plan-bar-muslims/story?id=35632600

"The presidential contender brought Democrats and Republicans together in condemnation of his plans to bar Muslims from entering the United States."

"Indeed, no Republican leaders, as of this evening, were prepared to support Trump's plan."

"And AshLee Strong, a spokeswoman for House Speaker Paul Ryan (http://abcnews.go.com/topics/news/us/rep.-paul-ryan.htm), said the congressman would not weigh in on the matter today but would likely address it at his weekly press availability Tuesday. Ryan has previously condemned the idea of religious tests in interviews and on the House floor."

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Thanks to ABC News for this report.
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Imho, Trump is getting more and more tangled in his own web of speeches unbecoming. We'll see how long that lasts and how his brash statements may very well have the potential to backfire on him.

[Common]

I dont believe for one second that all democrats are all for all the muslims obama wants to import. The democrats with common sense and the desire to assure americans are safer are not forit

[Peter1469]

Donald makes stuff up as he goes, and is good at it. But it increases the chance of saying something dumb.

[PolWatch]

Trump has a talent for finding the lowest common denominator in America. He appeals to those who secretly (or not so secretly) hate & fear others. He articulates the fear and points to a focal point for that fear. Today, its Muslims. Three months ago it was Mexicans. Who will he blame next? People who post on forums?

[Beevee]

I dont believe for one second that all democrats are all for all the muslims obama wants to import. The democrats with common sense and the desire to assure americans are safer are not forit

But do you also believe that all conservatives are against all muslims as well?

[zelmo1234]

Trump, finds a way to say what people are thinking but know that it is not politically correct to think

People understand that it is not safe to take in Syrian Refugee's And that if you take in that many, some of them are going to cause trouble. But If you say that Democrats will call you racist. That is their go to phrase.

Trump does not care. The same with Illegals People understand that even if they are just coming here for jobs and a better life, that we need those jobs for our own people. But democrats need the US citizens that are on disability and welfare to remain on those programs for the votes. Do again they turn to calling those that oppose illegal immigration Racist.

This makes for good copy, and allows the press to team up with establishment politicians and really make him out to be a terrible person.

And yet he maintains his popularity?

Here is what the Democrats, Progressives, and Press need to understand. There are a lot of people that will mock and show their distain for Trump when asked. but when the curtain closes on the voting booth? They know that his stance on illegal immigration is right, and on many other things including the downsizing of Government. and they are going to vote for him.

He may be the first President Elected that will have nobody the takes credit for voting for him.

[midcan5]

Every American should condemn the policies that Trump represents. The fringe far right is historically a dangerous group, I'll skip its history here, see reference below if you are interested. America has changed much in say sixty years as corporatism and neoliberalism control media and politics. Ideology manages the minds of the people.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/donald_trump_is_a_fascist_it_is_the_political_labe l_that_best_describes.html
http://thepolitic.org/an-interview-with-henry-giroux-professor-of-public-education-at-mcmasters-university/
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/30/trumps-embrace-of-totalitarianism-is-americas-dirty-little-secret/


"When fascism comes to America...it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis


"When one considers the ideology of fascism many notions and images spring to mind: totalitarianism, nationalism, ultranationalism, racism, oppression, censorship, violence, Nazism, Para militarism, right wing conservatism, radicalism, eugenics and the Holocaust. As Kevin Passmore suggests, Fascism is all these things and not these things, as it has a mercurial nature. In fact, "...fascism, as Ortega y Gasset says, is always `A' and not `A'." (p.11)"


From second review below and outlines well the book. http://www.amazon.com/Fascism-Very-Short-Introduction-Introductions/dp/0192801554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8


Passmore is fair and on page 31 he gives his definition of Fascism. I should scan for you. Authoritarian conservatism and fascism are so close they are mostly indistinguishable.

[zelmo1234]

Every American should condemn the policies that Trump represents. The fringe far right is historically a dangerous group, I'll skip its history here, see reference below if you are interested. America has changed much in say sixty years as corporatism and neoliberalism control media and politics. Ideology manages the minds of the people.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/donald_trump_is_a_fascist_it_is_the_political_labe l_that_best_describes.html
http://thepolitic.org/an-interview-with-henry-giroux-professor-of-public-education-at-mcmasters-university/
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/30/trumps-embrace-of-totalitarianism-is-americas-dirty-little-secret/


"When fascism comes to America...it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis


"When one considers the ideology of fascism many notions and images spring to mind: totalitarianism, nationalism, ultranationalism, racism, oppression, censorship, violence, Nazism, Para militarism, right wing conservatism, radicalism, eugenics and the Holocaust. As Kevin Passmore suggests, Fascism is all these things and not these things, as it has a mercurial nature. In fact, "...fascism, as Ortega y Gasset says, is always `A' and not `A'." (p.11)"


From second review below and outlines well the book. http://www.amazon.com/Fascism-Very-Short-Introduction-Introductions/dp/0192801554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8


Passmore is fair and on page 31 he gives his definition of Fascism. I should scan for you. Authoritarian conservatism and fascism are so close they are mostly indistinguishable.

The thing is, more of the conservatives, including Trump, are asking for less intrusion by the government. And yet Hillary and the Democrats are asking for more control over the lives of people?

This is interesting, because you have posted a great deal of propaganda, designed to point fingers away from this.

The Racism of which you speak does not exist in the form you wish people to believe it does. Wanting to end Illegal immigration is not racism, it is good business. Not wanting 10,000 Syrian Refugees that can't be vetted is not Racism it is Safety.

Remember Fascism has it roots in Socialism, not Freedom. this has been one of the best lies that of the left for decades.

[Adelaide]

Trump, finds a way to say what people are thinking but know that it is not politically correct to think

People understand that it is not safe to take in Syrian Refugee's And that if you take in that many, some of them are going to cause trouble. But If you say that Democrats will call you racist. That is their go to phrase.

Trump does not care. The same with Illegals People understand that even if they are just coming here for jobs and a better life, that we need those jobs for our own people. But democrats need the US citizens that are on disability and welfare to remain on those programs for the votes. Do again they turn to calling those that oppose illegal immigration Racist.

This makes for good copy, and allows the press to team up with establishment politicians and really make him out to be a terrible person.

And yet he maintains his popularity?

Here is what the Democrats, Progressives, and Press need to understand. There are a lot of people that will mock and show their distain for Trump when asked. but when the curtain closes on the voting booth? They know that his stance on illegal immigration is right, and on many other things including the downsizing of Government. and they are going to vote for him.

He may be the first President Elected that will have nobody the takes credit for voting for him.

I think he's starting to be held accountable for things that he says, and I think that it's going to happen more often as his rhetoric gets more outlandish.

As bad as illegal immigration is, he's come up with ideas that aren't going to happen. Mexico isn't going to pay for a wall or police it - that would be a burden the US will have to absorb if it ever actually happens. The monitoring and guarding of that hypothetical wall would be so insanely expensive and likely actually grow federal jobs probably under one of the existing law enforcement agencies. Banning Muslims from entering the country or immigrating to the country is just another exaggerated bunch of BS from Trump.

[Matty]

I think he's starting to be held accountable for things that he says, and I think that it's going to happen more often as his rhetoric gets more outlandish.

As bad as illegal immigration is, he's come up with ideas that aren't going to happen. Mexico isn't going to pay for a wall or police it - that would be a burden the US will have to absorb if it ever actually happens. The monitoring and guarding of that hypothetical wall would be so insanely expensive and likely actually grow federal jobs probably under one of the existing law enforcement agencies. Banning Muslims from entering the country or immigrating to the country is just another exaggerated bunch of BS from Trump.


Better idea. Let them come to Canada, we have too many illegals already.

[zelmo1234]

I think he's starting to be held accountable for things that he says, and I think that it's going to happen more often as his rhetoric gets more outlandish.

As bad as illegal immigration is, he's come up with ideas that aren't going to happen. Mexico isn't going to pay for a wall or police it - that would be a burden the US will have to absorb if it ever actually happens. The monitoring and guarding of that hypothetical wall would be so insanely expensive and likely actually grow federal jobs probably under one of the existing law enforcement agencies. Banning Muslims from entering the country or immigrating to the country is just another exaggerated bunch of BS from Trump.

What you and others don't understand it Business.

How would he possible get Mexico to get involved with policing the border or paying to build the wall?

Tariff. A 10% Tariff on imports from Mexico would devastate the Mexican economy to the point of revolution.

If they don't want to see that happen, then they of course will need to step up to the plate.

It is not rocket science.

[Adelaide]

Better idea. Let them come to Canada, we have too many illegals already.

They are and I've expressed my displeasure at the idea of bringing more than normal in under the refugee program. Canada can't afford it and the US already has an immigration problem. But our fucking leaders seem oblivious to this.

Maybe we should come up with standardized testing for morons/politicians. You know, basic math and science. Like, Bobby bought 6 apples and then advocated for massive amounts of refugees to come into the country - after eating 2 apples himself he had how many left to feed 25,000 refugees?

[Adelaide]

What you and others don't understand it Business.

How would he possible get Mexico to get involved with policing the border or paying to build the wall?

Tariff. A 10% Tariff on imports from Mexico would devastate the Mexican economy to the point of revolution.

If they don't want to see that happen, then they of course will need to step up to the plate.

It is not rocket science.

I think it's cute when Americans think they can just fuck with whomever they'd like in whatever way they'd like in order to get what they'd like.

No, Mexico is still not going to build a wall they can't afford or police a wall they can't afford. You'd just be pissing them off. Probably end up helping the next El Chapo dig his hole in a northern direction or something.

[Matty]

They are and I've expressed my displeasure at the idea of bringing more than normal in under the refugee program. Canada can't afford it and the US already has an immigration problem. But our fucking leaders seem oblivious to this.

Maybe we should come up with standardized testing for morons/politicians. You know, basic math and science. Like, Bobby bought 6 apples and then advocated for massive amounts of refugees to come into the country - after eating 2 apples himself he had how many left to feed 25,000 refugees?


So, why bash Trump? I know he is not all politically correct and I hate the way he blusters but he has the right idea. We need to stop immigration of Muslims into the country until we can sort out who is friendly and who is not. Hell, we are bringing them in, giving them benefits while they're on the phone to back home hatching plots to murder us. The main function of our government is to protect us. Pro Muslim Obama the idiot is not doing that.

[zelmo1234]

I think it's cute when Americans think they can just $#@! with whomever they'd like in whatever way they'd like in order to get what they'd like.

No, Mexico is still not going to build a wall they can't afford or police a wall they can't afford. You'd just be pissing them off. Probably end up helping the next El Chapo dig his hole in a northern direction or something.

First the expense of the Wall is not material it is labor. Mexico is not like the USA and Canada, they will use Chain Gangs to build the walls, very cheap.

Next do you think it would be more expensive to build the wall, or loose a high percentage of your manufacturing business, because it would now be cheaper for Americans to buy products made in the USA

As for Fucking with someone? What effect do you thing the illegal immigration problem we have effects the people of the USA. It cost and estimated 300 billion a year? So Yes they are Fucking with us.

And it needs to stop. The few billion it will cost to build the wall will be very cheap in the long run for Mexico. If they want to do business in the USA. It is the least that they can do. If not, then knock yourself out. They have the right to find other places in the world that want to do business with them.

[Matty]

I think it's cute when Americans think they can just fuck with whomever they'd like in whatever way they'd like in order to get what they'd like.

No, Mexico is still not going to build a wall they can't afford or police a wall they can't afford. You'd just be pissing them off. Probably end up helping the next El Chapo dig his hole in a northern direction or something.


Do you think it's just as cute when Mexico fucks with us? If you hate Americans so much why did you move here?

[Adelaide]

Do you think it's just as cute when Mexico fucks with us? If you hate Americans so much why did you move here?

There's the obligatory "you don't agree with me you hate Americans" shtick I haven't seen in a while! I was starting to think people had gone soft.

[Adelaide]

First the expense of the Wall is not material it is labor. Mexico is not like the USA and Canada, they will use Chain Gangs to build the walls, very cheap.

Next do you think it would be more expensive to build the wall, or loose a high percentage of your manufacturing business, because it would now be cheaper for Americans to buy products made in the USA

As for Fucking with someone? What effect do you thing the illegal immigration problem we have effects the people of the USA. It cost and estimated 300 billion a year? So Yes they are Fucking with us.

And it needs to stop. The few billion it will cost to build the wall will be very cheap in the long run for Mexico. If they want to do business in the USA. It is the least that they can do. If not, then knock yourself out. They have the right to find other places in the world that want to do business with them.

So..... you want cheap walls that are half-assed built?

Okay. Good luck stopping immigrants with that.

[Matty]

There's the obligatory "you don't agree with me you hate Americans" shtick I haven't seen in a while! I was starting to think people had gone soft.


If you don't want me to think it, then do not write it. Your writing gives the impression that you look down your nose at Americans. So why did you come here?

[Matty]

I have always wondered why Canadians are so freaking insensitive to the problems that America faces and mock and deride every solution brought forth. sneering is the word I am looking for.

[zelmo1234]

So..... you want cheap walls that are half-assed built?

Okay. Good luck stopping immigrants with that.

So now Mexicans can't do good work?

You just did the same thing that you accused other for in the post above.

I said that the cost of the wall was not in the materials, but the labor. I am in the construction Business. I can train a monkey to stretch razor wire and put in fence posts.

Maybe it is because those on the left don't do manual labor jobs, that they think that the average person cant be taught to pick and apple or build a fence. But I assure you it is not that hard to do.

[Matty]

Trumps big mistake was specifying Muslim immigrantion. . He should have said all immigration.

[Cigar]

This is so wonderful, I just hope Trump hasn't peeked too soon.

Donald is a dream Candidate, Bill Clinton is really looking like a Genius.

http://cdn.grid.fotosearch.com/BLD/BLD003/dl0186j34.jpg

[Mac-7]

Trump has a talent for finding the lowest common denominator in America. He appeals to those who secretly (or not so secretly) hate & fear others. He articulates the fear and points to a focal point for that fear. Today, its Muslims. Three months ago it was Mexicans. Who will he blame next? People who post on forums?

Athiests hate and fear Christians.

Liberals and progressives hate and fear conservatives.

Anarchists and centrists hate partisans.

So what else is new?

[Cigar]

Athiests hate and fear Christians.

Liberals and progressives hate and fear conservatives.

Anarchists and centrists hate partisans.

So what else is new?

:grin: Nervous?

[Matty]

This is so wonderful, I just hope Trump hasn't peeked too soon.

Donald is a dream Candidate, Bill Clinton is really looking like a Genius.

http://cdn.grid.fotosearch.com/BLD/BLD003/dl0186j34.jpg


What's he peeking at? His Christmas gift? That's right. I said Christmas!

[Cigar]

What's he peeking at? His Christmas gift? That's right. I said Christmas!

I can't wait for Christmas :grin: ...

[Mac-7]

:grin: Nervous?

Of course.

any person who loves America should be.

we are a divided country where half the people hate the other half.

Thats bad for everyone except dictators like obumer

[Mac-7]

What's he peeking at? His Christmas gift? That's right. I said Christmas!

You mean the Winter Solstice Holiday that the government workers in California were celebrating when the ordinary muslim immigrant murdered 14 of them

[Cigar]

Quick, Change the Subject :laugh:

[Truth Detector]

Donald Trump Unites Democrats, Republicans Against His Plan to Bar Muslims From Entering US
By Ali Weinberg

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-unites-democrats-republicans-plan-bar-muslims/story?id=35632600

========================
Thanks to ABC News for this report.
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Imho, Trump is getting more and more tangled in his own web of speeches unbecoming. We'll see how long that lasts and how his brash statements may very well have the potential to backfire on him.

So does that mean that Trump, without getting elected, has done what Obama promised to do but couldn't for his entire Presidency? Fascinating.

[Truth Detector]

Donald makes stuff up as he goes, and is good at it. But it increases the chance of saying something dumb.

He's not even good at it. But he and Obama are proof of how stupid the American electorate have become.

[Truth Detector]

Trump has a talent for finding the lowest common denominator in America. He appeals to those who secretly (or not so secretly) hate & fear others. He articulates the fear and points to a focal point for that fear. Today, its Muslims. Three months ago it was Mexicans. Who will he blame next? People who post on forums?

Obama beat Trump to that by about seven years.

[Truth Detector]

Every American should condemn the policies that Trump represents. The fringe far right is historically a dangerous group, I'll skip its history here, see reference below if you are interested. America has changed much in say sixty years as corporatism and neoliberalism control media and politics. Ideology manages the minds of the people.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/donald_trump_is_a_fascist_it_is_the_political_labe l_that_best_describes.html
http://thepolitic.org/an-interview-with-henry-giroux-professor-of-public-education-at-mcmasters-university/
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/30/trumps-embrace-of-totalitarianism-is-americas-dirty-little-secret/

"When fascism comes to America...it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

"When one considers the ideology of fascism many notions and images spring to mind: totalitarianism, nationalism, ultranationalism, racism, oppression, censorship, violence, Nazism, Para militarism, right wing conservatism, radicalism, eugenics and the Holocaust. As Kevin Passmore suggests, Fascism is all these things and not these things, as it has a mercurial nature. In fact, "...fascism, as Ortega y Gasset says, is always `A' and not `A'." (p.11)"

From second review below and outlines well the book. http://www.amazon.com/Fascism-Very-Short-Introduction-Introductions/dp/0192801554/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8

Passmore is fair and on page 31 he gives his definition of Fascism. I should scan for you. Authoritarian conservatism and fascism are so close they are mostly indistinguishable.

Americans are rejecting the divisive, dumb and naive politics of Obamunism. Democrats stupidly think they are still winning.

[Truth Detector]

They are and I've expressed my displeasure at the idea of bringing more than normal in under the refugee program. Canada can't afford it and the US already has an immigration problem. But our $#@!ing leaders seem oblivious to this.

Maybe we should come up with standardized testing for morons/politicians. You know, basic math and science. Like, Bobby bought 6 apples and then advocated for massive amounts of refugees to come into the country - after eating 2 apples himself he had how many left to feed 25,000 refugees?

^Damned funny stuff. LMAO

[Truth Detector]

I think it's cute when Americans think they can just $#@! with whomever they'd like in whatever way they'd like in order to get what they'd like.

Is that what we are like? So what has kept us from invading Kanukistan to take your natural resources? The vast Kanukistani military?

LMAO

[Cigar]

Nope, can't blame President Obama about Donald Trump, Trump is all GOP Tea Party and Home Grown and Grass Root ... so Own it. :laugh:

[nathanbforrest45]

I think we should give all Muslims 40 rounds and an AK 47 as soon as they arrive.

The idea that we cannot take the simple precaution of being over cautious against a group that obviously cannot be trusted is ludicrous to the nth degree. Are all Muslims a threat? Possibly so why allow more into the country?

[Mac-7]

He's not even good at it. But he and Obama are proof of how stupid the American electorate have become.

Do you think Trump is conveying an attitude rather than an inflexible policy?

The American people are sick of Washington politicians, the New York liberal media, pointy-headed progressive academics and all the rest of the elite establishment that has steered this country to the edge of a cliff.

We know Trump cant do everything he says.

But we know that if elected he'll get more of it than the usual suspects in office today.

[Truth Detector]

I have always wondered why Canadians are so freaking insensitive to the problems that America faces and mock and deride every solution brought forth. sneering is the word I am looking for.

It's easy to be a Kanukustani; you have AmeriKa protecting your borders so you don't need a military, which allows you to spend your money on well intentioned socialism. You have a vast American economy you can exploit by sending your citizens and businesses South to. You have a teeny tiny population that could basically fit in California with vast natural resources.

And the piece de resistance is that they're a tiny and insignificant spec on the world stage so the world finds it easy to like them.

[Cigar]

Do you think Trump is conveying an attitude rather than an inflexible policy?

The American people are sick of Washington politicians, the New York liberal media, pointy-headed progressive academics and all the rest of the elite establishment that has steered this country to the edge of a cliff.

We know Trump cant do everything he says.

But we know that if elected he'll get more of it than the usual suspects in office today.

That will read real good in the next GOP Autopsy

[Truth Detector]

This is so wonderful, I just hope Trump hasn't peeked too soon.

Donald is a dream Candidate, Bill Clinton is really looking like a Genius.

http://cdn.grid.fotosearch.com/BLD/BLD003/dl0186j34.jpg

Yep, in liberal loony land BillyBob is a political genius, who like Obama, lost Congress to the opposition party and got caught with his pants down banging interns like the philandering Dumbfuck he has always been.

Trump is Obama with an "R" next to his name.

[Truth Detector]

Of course.

any person who loves America should be.

we are a divided country where half the people hate the other half.

Thats bad for everyone except dictators like obumer

So Obama lied when he declared he would heal the nation and bring us together?

[MisterVeritis]

Yep. Democrats and Establishment Republicans oppose Trump. The only ones for Trump are the people. I don't believe Trump went far enough. We need to eliminate all immigration from all countries under all pretexts for at least a decade.

[Truth Detector]

Quick, Change the Subject :laugh:

Professional jealousy? Thought you had a monopoly on that?

[Bob]

Donald makes stuff up as he goes, and is good at it. But it increases the chance of saying something dumb.

Donald gets away with this due to the fact that we have for the past 7 years had such an insanely weak president.

It amounts to an overreaction due to the lies of Obama.

[Truth Detector]

Nope, can't blame President Obama about Donald Trump, Trump is all GOP Tea Party and Home Grown and Grass Root ... so Own it. :laugh:

Who blamed Obama about Trump??? Do you ever comprehend what is typed; or just filter everything to fit your myopic narrow viewpoint.

I said Trump is Obama only with an "R" next to his name. DUH.

[Matty]

Donald gets away with this due to the fact that we have for the past 7 years had such an insanely weak president.

It amounts to an overreaction due to the lies of Obama.



I just think everyone is sick to death of liberals political correctness and DC in particular. That's why Trump is so popular, he is saying what a lot of people are thinking.

[Bob]

I just think everyone is sick to death of liberals political correctness and DC in particular. That's why Trump is so popular, he is saying what a lot of people are thinking.

I agree on all of that.

[Bo-4]

We'll see what happens, but my bet?

Another 2% bump with the old, white mouth-breathing crowd. :D

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/14/09/2A74661B00000578-0-image-a-9_1436862657282.jpg

[Bo-4]

I think we should give all Muslims 40 rounds and an AK 47 as soon as they arrive.

The idea that we cannot take the simple precaution of being over cautious against a group that obviously cannot be trusted is ludicrous to the nth degree. Are all Muslims a threat? Possibly so why allow more into the country?

All Muslims are possibly a threat?

WoW :rolleyes:

[Truth Detector]

Do you think Trump is conveying an attitude rather than an inflexible policy?

Trump is conveying an attitude pronpuncing dumb policies. We don't elect Presidents so that they can convey a particular attitude. We should elect them based on their sound judgment and reasoned experience acting in the best interests of ALL the people and its allies.

The American people are sick of Washington politicians, the New York liberal media, pointy-headed progressive academics and all the rest of the elite establishment that has steered this country to the edge of a cliff.

Trump is only appealing to the lowest common denominator. That doesn't equate to leadership.


We know Trump cant do everything he says.

They said the same thing about Hitler.


But we know that if elected he'll get more of it than the usual suspects in office today.

He will get just as little as Obama has using the same rhetoric. You aren't going to get things done in Washington by pissing on the opposition party or your own party.

You aren't going to get things done by inciting and provoking. That's not what leaders do nor is what Trump is doing remotely connected to leadership.

Trump comes from a world where he IS the King. That attitude will not translate well to running a very diverse nation with widely varying attitudes, beliefs and political views.

Reagan understood this well which is why he was able to accomplish what he did while maintaining a very high popularity level with the voters; even those who may have disagreed with him. That is leadership.

What Obama and Trump represent is anything but. We don't need another Cheif pontificator or Cheif Admonisher.

That's my opinion.

[Matty]

We'll see what happens, but my bet?

Another 2% bump with the old, white mouth-breathing crowd. :D

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/14/09/2A74661B00000578-0-image-a-9_1436862657282.jpg


Why must you be so racist? It is unbecoming.

[nathanbforrest45]

You mean the Winter Solstice Holiday that the government workers in California were celebrating when the ordinary muslim immigrant murdered 14 of them


Now now now, he only allegedly murdered them. He may not have known the gun was actually real.

[Mac-7]

Trump is only appealing to the lowest common denominator. That doesn't equate to leadership.



I'm sorry you have such a low opinion of Trump supporters.

But even if we all are stupid - with I dont accept - but even if we are we are still entitled to our opinion and our vote right along with everyone else.

I frankly dont see why bringing in a million poor syrians, palestinians, somolis, yemenis, egyptions and otheres to go straight to the welfare office for benefits is good for America.

particularly when they hate our culture

but then I'm only a trump supporter so what do I know?

[leekohler2]

Donald makes stuff up as he goes, and is good at it. But it increases the chance of saying something dumb.

Anybody else think that Trump is doing all this to teach the GOP a lesson?

[Truth Detector]

I'm sorry you have such a low opinion of Trump supporters.

But even if we all are stupid - with I dont accept - but even if we are we are still entitled to our opinion and our vote right along with everyone else.

I frankly dont see why bringing in a million poor syrians, palestinians, somolis, yemenis, egyptions and otheres to go straight to the welfare office for benefits is good for America.

particularly when they hate our culture

but then I'm only a trump supporter so what do I know?

Sorry I hurt your feelings; but believing that a guy who pisses off nearly everyone he comes into contact with is good for the country is patently dumb.

The man is an arrogant ignoramus. I'm amazed that anyone would want an arrogant egotist like him as Commander in Cheif when that is what we are getting rid of and lived with for the last eight years.

Yeah; it's fun to watch him piss off Obama and the media; but that doesn't equate to leadership.

[Truth Detector]

Anybody else think that Trump is doing all this to teach the GOP a lesson?

What lesson would that be? We already got that lesson from the current arrogant egotist occupant of the White House.

[Mac-7]

Sorry I hurt your feelings; but believing that a guy who pisses off nearly everyone he comes into contact with is good for the country is patently dumb.



He hasnt said anything to piss me off.

or to piss off a growing number of voters.

[MisterVeritis]

Anybody else think that Trump is doing all this to teach the GOP a lesson?
He is doing it to win. That might be a good lesson. But I doubt it.

[nathanbforrest45]

He hasnt said anything to piss me off.

or to piss off a growing number of voters.

He is very good at pissing off those who are pissed off as a career.

[Adelaide]

I have always wondered why Canadians are so freaking insensitive to the problems that America faces and mock and deride every solution brought forth. sneering is the word I am looking for.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-G6Db2-9z4

[Adelaide]

So now Mexicans can't do good work?

You just did the same thing that you accused other for in the post above.

I said that the cost of the wall was not in the materials, but the labor. I am in the construction Business. I can train a monkey to stretch razor wire and put in fence posts.

Maybe it is because those on the left don't do manual labor jobs, that they think that the average person cant be taught to pick and apple or build a fence. But I assure you it is not that hard to do.

You said chain gangs would create the fence. Explain to me how prisoners are going to build a quality wall. And a razor fence? I'm sorry - are you trying to keep people or livestock out?

[Cigar]

What lesson would that be? We already got that lesson from the current arrogant egotist occupant of the White House.

When do you think the 3rd Autopsy gets published ... February or March 2017 ? :huh:

[Archer0915]

To any progressives out there and conservatives who hammer trump over this.

"Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," a campaign press release said.

If it had your wife, childrens mother, husband, childrens father or child that were killed in San Bernadino, how would you feel?

And another thing - http://www.allenbwest.com/…/mainstream-media-wont-tell-you…/ (http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/10/mainstream-media-wont-tell-you-why-sweden-is-now-rape-capital-of-the-west/)
Sweden takes them them in like crazy and this is what comes of it:

“Sweden began opening its doors to Muslim immigrants in the 1970s. Today it pays a high price for having done so. The group suffering the severest consequences of such an open door policy has been Swedish women,” according to The Daily Caller.
“As Muslim men immigrated to Sweden, they brought with them an Islamic culture sanctioning rape. It is a culture bad enough inherently in the treatment of its own women. Under sharia, Muslim women serve little more purpose beyond catering to their husbands’ sexual demands. A non-submissive wife runs the risk of being raped by her husband.”
“But under sharia, this rape culture also impacts upon Swedish women as they are “infidels” and, as such, are — according to Allah’s teachings — sanctioned targets for rape by Muslim men. Such an Islamic belief system has born witness to a drastic increase in rapes in Sweden — more than a thousand fold — since first opening its doors to Muslim immigration.
A 1996 Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention report bears this out. It noted that Muslim immigrants from North Africa were 23 times more likely to commit rape than Swedish men. It is no wonder why today Sweden is deemed the rape capital of the Western world.”

[Matty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-G6Db2-9z4



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAUNfrWCkkg

[Adelaide]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sAUNfrWCkkg

Hahaha - touche, dear.

[MisterVeritis]

They are and I've expressed my displeasure at the idea of bringing more than normal in under the refugee program. Canada can't afford it and the US already has an immigration problem. But our $#@!ing leaders seem oblivious to this.

Maybe we should come up with standardized testing for morons/politicians. You know, basic math and science. Like, Bobby bought 6 apples and then advocated for massive amounts of refugees to come into the country - after eating 2 apples himself he had how many left to feed 25,000 refugees?
This indicates there is still hope for you.

[Truth Detector]

When do you think the 3rd Autopsy gets published ... February or March 2017 ? :huh:

I have no idea what you are "emoting" about and am certain that you don't either.

[Cigar]

I have no idea what you are "emoting" about and am certain that you don't either.

I'm sure that was part of the problem, just simple awareness :wink:

[Mac-7]

He is very good at pissing off those who are pissed off as a career.

That seems to be everyone.

Left, right and center are all pissed off about something.

but trump pisses off people that I dont like anyway.

[nic34]

Trump has a talent for finding the lowest common denominator in America. He appeals to those who secretly (or not so secretly) hate & fear others. He articulates the fear and points to a focal point for that fear. Today, its Muslims. Three months ago it was Mexicans. Who will he blame next? People who post on forums?

I been wondering what happened to the messikins....


https://youtu.be/T0noDEI2nLY

[MisterVeritis]

We'll see what happens, but my bet?

Another 2% bump with the old, white mouth-breathing crowd. :D

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/07/14/09/2A74661B00000578-0-image-a-9_1436862657282.jpg
Would that be Clinton and Sanders?

[Mac-7]

It seems like the GOP leadership is out of touch with GOP voters.

Paul Ryan and most GOP presidential contenders except for Cruz strongly condemned Trump.

But the voters agree with Trump not Ryan.

[Dr. Who]

First the expense of the Wall is not material it is labor. Mexico is not like the USA and Canada, they will use Chain Gangs to build the walls, very cheap.

Next do you think it would be more expensive to build the wall, or loose a high percentage of your manufacturing business, because it would now be cheaper for Americans to buy products made in the USA

As for Fucking with someone? What effect do you thing the illegal immigration problem we have effects the people of the USA. It cost and estimated 300 billion a year? So Yes they are Fucking with us.

And it needs to stop. The few billion it will cost to build the wall will be very cheap in the long run for Mexico. If they want to do business in the USA. It is the least that they can do. If not, then knock yourself out. They have the right to find other places in the world that want to do business with them.
Mexico is not sending illegals to America. Illegals are sending themselves. Mexico does not have a paranoid totalitarian style regime that keeps track of every citizen, like the USSR did or the formerly communist European countries. The people of Mexico have freedom of movement, just as the people of America have freedom of movement. People are leaving Mexico because it is poor and riddled with corruption.

If you want a wall, America will have to pay for it. America is free to negotiate a deal for Mexican chain gang labor.

[Matty]

Mexico is not sending illegals to America. Illegals are sending themselves. Mexico does not have a paranoid totalitarian style regime that keeps track of every citizen, like the USSR did or the formerly communist European countries. The people of Mexico have freedom of movement, just as the people of America have freedom of movement. People are leaving Mexico because it is poor and riddled with corruption.

If you want a wall, America will have to pay for it. America is free to negotiate a deal for Mexican chain gang labor.


Yes, they are and it includes printing instructions. And, Obama went to Mexico and told them how to apply fior food stamps and other benefits. On top of that Mexico sued the US for not putting up water stations. Freedom of movement? Can you tell us with certainty that if we Americans invaded Mexico in violation of their immigration laws we would be provided with the amenitities?

[gamewell45]

Donald Trump Unites Democrats, Republicans Against His Plan to Bar Muslims From Entering US
By Ali Weinberg

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-unites-democrats-republicans-plan-bar-muslims/story?id=35632600



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Thanks to ABC News for this report.
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Imho, Trump is getting more and more tangled in his own web of speeches unbecoming. We'll see how long that lasts and how his brash statements may very well have the potential to backfire on him.

I honestly don't think he really wants to be president; he wants to be in the limelight and then go back to his normal lifestyle of jet-setting around the world cutting business deals for himself.

[Raptor]

Yep. Democrats and Establishment Republicans oppose Trump. The only ones for Trump are the people. I don't believe Trump went far enough. We need to eliminate all immigration from all countries under all pretexts for at least a decade.

By now it is abundantly clear that Obumsky is a MONUMENTAL Fraud, Racist (having a TWENTY YEAR TENURE in Black Racist PSYCHO Jeremiah "Goddamn America" Wright's Cathedral of Hate), wannabe Muslim and Commie (Obummer's Mother, Father, Grandfather were die hard commies. Not only that, Obummer's grandfather got Obumsky a notorious Commie poet, pornograper psycho, Frank Marshall Davis, as mentor during Obummer's formative years.

The Obummerrhoid's transparent white-washing of the CONTINUOUS MUSLIM TERRORISM calling it a "workplace violence " and laying out a welcome mat to Illegal Immigration dodging the results of his aforementioned agenda by trying to use false data to compare his disastrous agenda to Bush's who eliminated the greatest threat in the Mid East the MUSLIM PSYCHO Saddam Hussein.


Obamsky's support of the Muslims whose "prophet" was a PSYCHO, the leading model of the perfect ISIS leader who according to Islamic HADITHS, himself, PERSONALLY, beheaded ~ 20 of his prisoners for rejecting Islam. So HOW TF can the Obummerrhoid justify his ardent and vociferous support of a religion created by a PSYCHO MohahahahaMAD who was the MODEL for the Muslim Terrorist Jihad Nutters who are not only slaughtering non-muslims, but muslims not devoted enough to Islam ?


And what do we have ???? Obummerrhoid's cat's paw, in His Atty General Loretta Lynch, threatening to PERSECUTE those who in effect want to curtail Obumsky's past, present and future mass murders by making it easier for the Muslim Terrorists !!!

So, Trump is obviously doing the correct thing, trying to stop the flow of Muslims into our country because these arseholes are the followers of the Psycho MohahahahahaMAD who is the model for the Islamic Jihadist ISIS terrorists !!!

[MisterVeritis]

I honestly don't think he really wants to be president; he wants to be in the limelight and then go back to his normal lifestyle of jet-setting around the world cutting business deals for himself.
And yet the things he does have increased the distance between him and his nearest competitors. I believe he is going to win.

[gamewell45]

And yet the things he does have increased the distance between him and his nearest competitors. I believe he is going to win.

I disagree for the following reason; I can see a brokered convention taking place in 2016 based on several issues which currently divide the Republican Party.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/03/11/a-brokered-gop-convention-in-2016

[MisterVeritis]

I disagree for the following reason; I can see a brokered convention taking place in 2016 based on several issues which currently divide the Republican Party.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/03/11/a-brokered-gop-convention-in-2016
He will win. If the Republicans play games a large part of the party will follow Trump. The Republican party will go the way of the Whigs. It is time for an American Nationalist Conservative party.

[gamewell45]

He will win. If the Republicans play games a large part of the party will follow Trump. The Republican party will go the way of the Whigs. It is time for an American Nationalist Conservative party.

Well, we shall see either way I suppose.