Obama speech to soldiers met with silence

[Goldie Locks]

President Barack Obama was greeted with fleeting applause and extended periods of silence as he offered profuse praise to soldiers and their families during an Aug. 31 speech in Fort Bliss, Texas.
His praise for the soldiers — and for his own national-security policies — won cheers from only a small proportion of the soldiers and families in the cavernous aircraft-hanger.The audience remains quiet even when the commander-in-chief thanked the soldiers’ families, and cited the 198 deaths of their comrades in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The audience’s reaction was so flat that the president tried twice to elicit a reaction from the crowd. “Hey, I hear you,” he said amid silence. The selected soldiers who were arrayed behind the president sat quietly throughout the speech. CNN and MSNBC ended their coverage of the speech before it was half-over.
More: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/31/obama-speech-to-soldiers-met-with-silence/


Wonder how many would have attended if not ordered too???
Must have really been bad if the liberal lame stream media ended coverage before the speech was even half over!
Our Military men and women take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and here they have to listen to a speech by a man who usurps it every chance he gets.

[wingrider]

it is pretty bad when the commander in chief gets the silent treatment from his own troops.. speaks volumes about him

[Goldie Locks]

it is pretty bad when the commander in chief gets the silent treatment from his own troops.. speaks volumes about him

It certainly does. They know who the enemy is.

[wingrider]

yep.. I think Obama has an unpleasant surprise coming to him in November,

[Carygrant]

Silence -- excellent .
A universal mark of respect .

Mind you , he could have quite reasonably asked them when they were going to come up with a win .
Perhaps you should engineer a decent war in America and get the advantage of fighting on home soil .Only Team GB has the knack of winning Home and Away .
1066 was a blip .

[Goldie Locks]

I hate to be overly optimistic, but the more I see and hear, the more apparent it becomes that Ubama is soooo done.

[Goldie Locks]

Silence -- excellent .
A universal mark of respect .

Mind you , he could have quite reasonably asked them when they were going to come up with a win .
Perhaps you should engineer a decent war in America and get the advantage of fighting on home soil .Only Team GB has the knack of winning Home and Away .
1066 was a blip .


Sign of respect...sure Cary...LMFAO!!!
What you don't like Ubama's wars???

[wingrider]

Sign of respect...sure Cary...LMFAO!!!
What you don't like Ubama's wars??? don't drone me bro

[Deadwood]

That outreach, however, has been damaged by repeated flubs from the White House, including its public emphasis on soldiers’ wounds rather than on their accomplishments, and Obama’s effort to distance himself from the anti-jihad campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/31/obama-speech-to-soldiers-met-with-silence/#ixzz25EHt6cwG



Through another forum I have had contact with the relatives of about two dozen vets, and direct contact with a few who have been there including Canadians. it seems they are most troubled by the way Obama uses the war and killing bin Laden as political triumphs for himself.

The three big issues are that that they do no believe the White House has even a vague understanding of what's going on, they have no clear objectives and it is simply not winnable. Not one soldier I've spoken to believes it won't be another Viet Nam, that the Talliban will simply roll over whatever is left behind and take over again..

[wingrider]

Through another forum I have had contact with the relatives of about two dozen vets, and direct contact with a few who have been there including Canadians. it seems they are most troubled by the way Obama uses the war and killing bin Laden as political triumphs for himself.

The three big issues are that that they do no believe the White House has even a vague understanding of what's going on, they have no clear objectives and it is simply not winnable. Not one soldier I've spoken to believes it won't be another Viet Nam, that the Talliban will simply roll over whatever is left behind and take over again..
good post . almost prescient

[Carygrant]

Through another forum I have had contact with the relatives of about two dozen vets, and direct contact with a few who have been there including Canadians. it seems they are most troubled by the way Obama uses the war and killing bin Laden as political triumphs for himself.

The three big issues are that that they do no believe the White House has even a vague understanding of what's going on, they have no clear objectives and it is simply not winnable. Not one soldier I've spoken to believes it won't be another Viet Nam, that the Talliban will simply roll over whatever is left behind and take over again..


As I wrote on a related Topic a few days ago , that was told to all of us soberly by the Russians from the very beginning and today's emerging consensus was blindingly obvious several years ago . People were frightened to say what they privately knew .

[Shoot the Goose]

Through another forum I have had contact with the relatives of about two dozen vets, and direct contact with a few who have been there including Canadians. it seems they are most troubled by the way Obama uses the war and killing bin Laden as political triumphs for himself.

The three big issues are that that they do no believe the White House has even a vague understanding of what's going on, they have no clear objectives and it is simply not winnable. Not one soldier I've spoken to believes it won't be another Viet Nam, that the Talliban will simply roll over whatever is left behind and take over again..

That is precisely what will happen.

[Shoot the Goose]

Silence -- excellent .
A universal mark of respect ...... .

Only for the dead. For the living, it goes something like this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw

[Peter1469]

As I wrote on a related Topic a few days ago , that was told to all of us soberly by the Russians from the very beginning and today's emerging consensus was blindingly obvious several years ago . People were frightened to say what they privately knew .

Our initial plans didn't include occupation. That mission creep was the problem.

[Carygrant]

Our initial plans didn't include occupation. That mission creep was the problem.


Presumably that mission creep was Dick Head Cheney .

[Mainecoons]

No, it was Obama who expanded the force. And then he told the enemy when they were leaving.

Not very smart, that.

[URF8]

What's happened to our men and women in the service is heartbreaking. They have been abandoned and forgotten. It fills me with rage.

[Peter1469]

Presumably that mission creep was Dick Head Cheney .

Maybe. But it goes further back to Colin Powell. In the 80s he loved to say if you break it you bought it.

I say bull shit. The US is a sovereign nation- not a parent with a brat in a china shop. If the US decides to break a country it has zero obligation to fix it.

[Carygrant]

Your problem --- imho --- is that you would love to believe Mutt and his PR message --- We believe in America .
But the nice people in America refuse to see that those who rule you are not even interested in thoughts like that .
They despise workers and the middle class and because you act moronically on a collective basis and you slow up their plans , they will treat you with contempt .
But you always come back for more .
SMs .

[Mainecoons]

You really don't have a clue about America. Why you think that these posts of yours do anything other than confirm that point is beyond the rest of us.

[Peter1469]

Your problem --- imho --- is that you would love to believe Mutt and his PR message --- We believe in America .
But the nice people in America refuse to see that those who rule you are not even interested in thoughts like that .
They despise workers and the middle class and because you act moronically on a collective basis and you slow up their plans , they will treat you with contempt .
But you always come back for more .
SMs .

I am left baffled by that comment.

[Shoot the Goose]

Your problem --- imho --- is that you would love to believe Mutt and his PR message --- We believe in America .
But the nice people in America refuse to see that those who rule you are not even interested in thoughts like that .
They despise workers and the middle class and because you act moronically on a collective basis and you slow up their plans , they will treat you with contempt .
But you always come back for more .
SMs .

"You ... you .. you ... blah .. blah .. blah".

I have no problem saying it. You are a British moron. Dumb as a stump about America. Seemingly drunk always when praising Britain, while pretending it has not had massive failures. That you are here, instead of in a forum of the Queen's subjects, speaks of your ample ineptitude.

We are exceptional, although losing it under this jackass Obama. You lost the last shred of your exceptionalism a couple decades ago. And only a shred was left then. We do not want to make the same mistakes as you. Obama will be shown the door. You can have him for free.

In America, we never gave much of a crap for style points. Just getting the job done. OBTW, we have never lost one acre of land, over which we had governance, to any enemy, when the matter was settled. That said, I do not care to impugn the splendid honor of the British warrior.

"Harumph" .... LOL.

[Peter1469]

If anyone saw the warm up to Obama's speech- a command sergeant major and a warrant officer came out to "fire up the crowd." It seemed disgraceful and an overt pro-Obama move. Had I been there I would have walked out at that point.

[Shoot the Goose]

If anyone saw the warm up to Obama's speech- a command sergeant major and a warrant officer came out to "fire up the crowd." It seemed disgraceful and an overt pro-Obama move. Had I been there I would have walked out at that point.

Shame is that they were ordered to do that. What a farce. JFK was the last Dem President respected by the military.

A half century ago.

[Aristophanes]

I hate to be overly optimistic, but the more I see and hear, the more apparent it becomes that Ubama is soooo done.Right, lol? I think it's going to be an ass-stomping for the record books.

[roadmaster]

I know many that are serving and they don't respect Obama. When their time is up, they will leave including Priest. That's why I think the draft will have to come back if he gets four more years.

[sparty]

I know many that are serving and they don't respect Obama. When their time is up, they will leave including Priest. That's why I think the draft will have to come back if he gets four more years.

They are tired of rotating in and out.
How many deployments can you do before you run out of luck?
A lot of recent military KIA are on their 5th and 6th deployments.
It's only a matter of time. :(

[patrickt]

Your problem --- imho --- is that you would love to believe Mutt and his PR message --- We believe in America .
But the nice people in America refuse to see that those who rule you are not even interested in thoughts like that .
They despise workers and the middle class and because you act moronically on a collective basis and you slow up their plans , they will treat you with contempt .
But you always come back for more .
SMs .

By god, Carygrunt finally has seen the Obama administration and their erstwhile King for what they are. It's hard to believe he finally tumbled to the disdain, and even hatred, President Obama and his minions have for the working people in the U.S. and for America.

[Goldie Locks]

Look how many military men have been given less than honorable discharges or reprimands for speaking out against Ubama or saying they will not follow his orders. When was the last time you saw that in the military???

[wingrider]

vietnam that is when

[Peter1469]

Who was that soldier during Clinton's admin who refused to wear a UN beret? Got kicked out over it.

[Akula]

.Only Team GB has the knack of winning Home and Away .
1066 was a blip .

Well...That's not true, is it?
There was 1776..That didn't work out very well for you guys...
Here..survey these stats..You guys lost a lot...and stalemated a lot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Great_Britain

[Peter1469]

The Brits are sore losers.

[KSigMason]

I bet ya this was a mandatory attendance event.

[birddog]

I bet ya this was a mandatory attendance event.

There were only a few behind Obama applauding, and none of them looked like they wanted to be there.

[Goldie Locks]

I bet ya this was a mandatory attendance event.

I'm sure you're right.

[Shoot the Goose]

I bet ya this was a mandatory attendance event.

That is a Gare-on-tee. Been there. Done that. <spit>

[kshRox]

No, it was Obama who expanded the force. And then he told the enemy when they were leaving.

Not very smart, that.

I think Obama was very smart.
He reduced the number of troops in the region so he could claim to keep his campaign promises.
He expanded the war by involving our troops in more countries.
He further destabalized the region by promoting the fall of stable governments.

Very smart for a socialist set on destroying American credibility and strength.

[roadmaster]

It's hard not to see what he did. He more than doubled the troops in order to say he was bringing many home. We have more over in the ME than Bush ever did even today.

[Cigar]

President Barack Obama was greeted with fleeting applause and extended periods of silence as he offered profuse praise to soldiers and their families during an Aug. 31 speech in Fort Bliss, Texas.
His praise for the soldiers — and for his own national-security policies — won cheers from only a small proportion of the soldiers and families in the cavernous aircraft-hanger.The audience remains quiet even when the commander-in-chief thanked the soldiers’ families, and cited the 198 deaths of their comrades in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The audience’s reaction was so flat that the president tried twice to elicit a reaction from the crowd. “Hey, I hear you,” he said amid silence. The selected soldiers who were arrayed behind the president sat quietly throughout the speech. CNN and MSNBC ended their coverage of the speech before it was half-over.
More: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/31/obama-speech-to-soldiers-met-with-silence/


Wonder how many would have attended if not ordered too???
Must have really been bad if the liberal lame stream media ended coverage before the speech was even half over!
Our Military men and women take an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution and here they have to listen to a speech by a man who usurps it every chance he gets.



The good news is, thousands more troops will be able to exercise their right to silence ... simply by being alive.

~ no thanks required

[Agravan]

The good news is, thousands more troops will be able to exercise their right to silence ... simply by being alive.

~ no thanks required


Death tolls in Afghanistan have risen since your messiah took office. You may want to do a bit of research before you make dumb-assed statements like the one above.

Yearly breakdown of U.S. deaths In Afghanistan since start of the war:
— 2001: 3
— 2002: 23
— 2003: 30
— 2004: 49
— 2005: 93
— 2006: 88
— 2007: 110
— 2008: 151
— 2009: 305
— 2010: 492
— 2011: 398
— 2012: 219
Monthly U.S. death tolls In Afghanistan since January 2010:
— August 2012: 26
— July 2012: 40
— June 2012: 27
— May 2012: 39
— April 2012: 34
— March 2012: 18
— February 2012: 10
— January 2012: 25
— December 2011: 15
— November 2011: 17
— October 2011: 28
— September 2011: 38
— August 2011: 71
— July 2011: 33
— June 2011: 46
— May 2011: 34
— April 2011: 46
— March 2011: 27
— February 2011: 19
— January 2011: 24
— December 2010: 33
— November 2010: 53
— October 2010: 49
— September 2010: 42
— August 2010: 55
— July 2010: 65
— June 2010: 60
— May 2010: 34
— April 2010: 19
— March 2010: 24
— February 2010: 28
— January 2010: 30
----------
These numbers are based on Department of Defense press releases and include only deaths that occurred from incidents in Afghanistan. Data includes military civilian deaths. It does not include deaths of service personnel from other countries in the U.S.-led coalition. Data is current as of Aug. 16, 2012.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/16/us-casualties-in-afghanistan/#ixzz25VS77OIc

[bladimz]

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but i question where Goldie was the one starting this thread. If you notice, the thread's name starts with "Obama" and not "Ubama"!! Ms. Locks, do you have a ghost writer?

[bladimz]

Death tolls in Afghanistan have risen since your messiah took office. You may want to do a bit of research before you make dumb-assed statements like the one above.

Yearly breakdown of U.S. deaths In Afghanistan since start of the war:
— 2001: 3
— 2002: 23
— 2003: 30
— 2004: 49
— 2005: 93
— 2006: 88
— 2007: 110
— 2008: 151
— 2009: 305
— 2010: 492
— 2011: 398
— 2012: 219
Monthly U.S. death tolls In Afghanistan since January 2010:
— August 2012: 26
— July 2012: 40
— June 2012: 27
— May 2012: 39
— April 2012: 34
— March 2012: 18
— February 2012: 10
— January 2012: 25
— December 2011: 15
— November 2011: 17
— October 2011: 28
— September 2011: 38
— August 2011: 71
— July 2011: 33
— June 2011: 46
— May 2011: 34
— April 2011: 46
— March 2011: 27
— February 2011: 19
— January 2011: 24
— December 2010: 33
— November 2010: 53
— October 2010: 49
— September 2010: 42
— August 2010: 55
— July 2010: 65
— June 2010: 60
— May 2010: 34
— April 2010: 19
— March 2010: 24
— February 2010: 28
— January 2010: 30
----------
These numbers are based on Department of Defense press releases and include only deaths that occurred from incidents in Afghanistan. Data includes military civilian deaths. It does not include deaths of service personnel from other countries in the U.S.-led coalition. Data is current as of Aug. 16, 2012.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/16/us-casualties-in-afghanistan/#ixzz25VS77OIc

The simple and intentionally overlooked fact is that all of those numbers would be "0" if our former POTUS hadn't stuck us there in the first place...

"You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger"
And you don't war in Afghanistan.

The whole thing should never have happened. We are still paying for those wars in so many way. This country has been permanently scarred because of these invasions, as it was as a result of the VietNam "conflict". Look for a new invasion into Iran in the next two years, no matter who wins this stupid election.

[Akula]

Look for a new invasion into Iran in the next two years, no matter who wins this stupid election.

I doubt it.
No more wars for israel. Not one more drop of american blood for israel.

Besides russia won't be "amused" and wouldn't stand for it.

[bladimz]

I doubt it.
No more wars for israel. Not one more drop of american blood for israel.

Besides russia won't be "amused" and wouldn't stand for it.I hope you're right and i'm wrong.

[coolwalker]

"Bye-bye Mr. American pie-hole"