Bad News for Barry Soetero

[Bob]

http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/obamas-college-records-are-finally-released-what-they-say-could-get-him-impeached/

I tried and tried to copy part of it. Any experts help will be appreciated.

Barry's College records came out from the looks of it and his student declarations confirms comments made when he first was elected.

[Peter1469]

I can't copy from that website either. Basically it says a FOIA law suit has obtained documents that prove that Obama claimed foreign citizenship to get a Fulbright Scholarship to study in the US.

[zelmo1234]

Wow something that we all knew, but were afraid to ask,

Stop with the Impeachment talks though, there is not enough time, but they could make a deal to get some things defunded.

[Matty]

I got it to copy Bob.



Since Barack Obama first became president, he has been doing everything he can to ensure that his college records remained sealed. He was very successful in this endeavor: until now.
Recently, “Americans for Freedom of Information” released copies of Obama’s transcripts from Occidental College, and what they revealed could get him impeached according to the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” (http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/01/11/breaking-obama-college-records-released-financial-aid-as-a-foreigner/), the documents reveal the future president received financial aid as a student from Indonesia under the name of Barry Soetoro.
The transcript shows that when Obama applied for financial aid, he was awarded with a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. In order to qualify for this scholarship, students must first claim foreign citizenship.



http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/obamas-college-records-are-finally-released-what-they-say-could-get-him-impeached/

[Chris]

Snopes says false: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

[Peter1469]

The Snopes article is from 2009.

Bob's is from 2 days ago. They are referring to different documents.


Snopes says false: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

[Mark III]

http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/obamas-college-records-are-finally-released-what-they-say-could-get-him-impeached/

I tried and tried to copy part of it. Any experts help will be appreciated.








Barry's College records came out from the looks of it and his student declarations confirms comments made when he first was elected.

Here Bob I have something for you-

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iU53oCDz_n4/UA4NUcb4gNI/AAAAAAAAAjo/r1gDPEzogq4/s320/foil+hat.jpg
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[Mark III]

https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Obama%27s+college+records+are+finally+rel eased&qft=sortbydate%3d%221%22&form=YFNR

The link is to a Bing News search for this subject. There is literally nothing there.

Is Politics Forum a comedy site ?

Why are there so many people who claim to be halfway intelligent who fall prey to such nonsense as this OP on such a regular basis ?

You guys are embarrassing the rest of us normal people.

[Mark III]

JANUARY 11, 2014BY DEAN JAMES (http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/author/clark-kent/)
BREAKING: OBAMA COLLEGE RECORDS RELEASED-FINANCIAL AID AS A FOREIGNER! (http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/01/11/breaking-obama-college-records-released-financial-aid-as-a-foreigner/)

This is what you get when you click on the link in the OP article.

Look at the date, dupes .

Hilarious.

[MisterVeritis]

Wow something that we all knew, but were afraid to ask,

Stop with the Impeachment talks though, there is not enough time, but they could make a deal to get some things defunded.
There is plenty of time. Impeachment can be handled in a few weeks. There are many reasons to impeach the son/daughter of a bitch in the White House.

The bigger issue concerns the phony news sites that have cropped up. I tried to confirm this story by searching for other similar stories. I did not find any. Someone with more time could track down the freedom of information act and the organization that supposedly requested the information. FOIA applies to government agencies. Are universities subject to FOIA? I doubt it.

[Mark III]

There is plenty of time. Impeachment can be handles in a few weeks.

All you need are facts. No amount of time will help you there.

[Captain Obvious]

https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Obama's+college+records+are+finally+relea sed&qft=sortbydate%3d"1"&form=YFNR (https://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Obama's+college+records+are+finally+relea sed&qft=sortbydate%3d)

The link is to a Bing News search for this subject. There is literally nothing there.

Is Politics Forum a comedy site ?

Why are there so many people who claim to be halfway intelligent who fall prey to such nonsense as this OP on such a regular basis ?

You guys are embarrassing the rest of us normal people.

Mark - you're a paranoid psychotic.

Clearly you're on the fringe of society, you're just not capable of recognizing it.

[Mark III]

Mark - you're a paranoid psychotic.

Clearly you're on the fringe of society, you're just not capable of recognizing it.

You don't seem to get involved in all this ridiculous conspiracy fantasizing as much as some of these other fools do. Maybe there is still a slight hope for you.

[MisterVeritis]

[QUOTE=Mark III;1364826]

This is interesting. The quote and my entire response just disappeared. I will have to go back to see what I was responding to.

[MisterVeritis]

All you need are facts. No amount of time will help you there.
Time may or may not help. This particular story appears to be phony news. It will be clear in a couple of days.

Bath House Barry appears to be a phony as this story.

[Mark III]

Someone with more time could track down the freedom of information act and the organization that supposedly requested the information.

They could also go searching for two headed unicorns.

[MisterVeritis]

[QUOTE=Mark III;1364826]

This was my second try. I quit.

[Mark III]

Time may or may not help. This particular story appears to be phony news. It will be clear in a couple of days.

Bath House Barry appears to be a phony as this story.


The date on this story is almost two years old. In other words, it was debunked two years ago. We hardly need to wait a couple more days.

[Mister D]

They could also go searching for two headed unicorns.

Found 'em! They were right next to the homophobes and xenophobes. Crafty those unicorns...

[MisterVeritis]

The date on this story is almost two years old. In other words, it was debunked two years ago. We hardly need to wait a couple more days.
The story Bob posted was Dec 11, 2015.

The original hoax story goes back years. I did find a website that tracked the origins, an email, that has surfaced every few months for years. I have little doubt that someone at the DNC is behind this and other phony news sites. During a disinformation campaign it is important to have plenty of phony stories that appear plausible. That way, when a real story emerges people will tend not to believe it.

[Mark III]

The Facts of Foreign Student Aid (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#fact)


FACT: Barack Obama had US student loans (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#loans)
. (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#loans)
FACT: Barack Obama had no need to apply for foreign student aid. (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#need)

FACT: Barack Obama wasn't eligible to attend to any college in the US as a foreign student because he was a US citizen. (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#student)

FACT: Barack Obama wasn't eligible for US aid as a foreign student because he was a US citizen. (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#usaid)

FACT: Barack Obama wasn't eligible for Indonesian or Kenyan aid as a foreign student because he was a US citizen. (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#outside)
​

http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/

[MisterVeritis]

The Facts of Foreign Student Aid (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#fact)


FACT: Barack Obama had US student loans (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#loans)
. (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#loans)
FACT: Barack Obama had no need to apply for foreign student aid. (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#need)
FACT: Barack Obama wasn't eligible to attend to any college in the US as a foreign student because he was a US citizen. (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#student)
FACT: Barack Obama wasn't eligible for US aid as a foreign student because he was a US citizen. (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#usaid)
FACT: Barack Obama wasn't eligible for Indonesian or Kenyan aid as a foreign student because he was a US citizen. (http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/#outside)


http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/foreign-aid/

Thank you for those "facts" from a special pleading for Barry Soetero website. I cannot wait to see what comes next. I suppose you will claim that Mooch is really a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman. And no doubt you will tell us that Barry is really a man and not a total pussy as someone eloquently put it on Fox News.

[Matty]

I think O'Reilly sent investigators to Hawaii to check out obama's birth certificate, it is valid and not only that his birth was announced in the local papers.

[Captain Obvious]

You don't seem to get involved in all this ridiculous conspiracy fantasizing as much as some of these other fools do. Maybe there is still a slight hope for you.

I can be at ease now finally.

:biglaugh:

[Mark III]

I can be at ease now finally.

:biglaugh:

Let's hope so.

[Chris]

The Snopes article is from 2009.

Bob's is from 2 days ago. They are referring to different documents.

Right, but I think the story is that old. Just sayin'.

[Mark III]

I think O'Reilly sent investigators to Hawaii to check out obama's birth certificate, it is valid and not only that his birth was announced in the local papers.

You are sharp as a tack.

What would we do without O'Reilly, by the way ?

[Captain Obvious]

You are sharp as a tack.

What would we do without O'Reilly, by the way ?

Laughing harder at Maher

[Peter1469]

There is plenty of time. Impeachment can be handled in a few weeks. There are many reasons to impeach the son/daughter of a bitch in the White House.

The bigger issue concerns the phony news sites that have cropped up. I tried to confirm this story by searching for other similar stories. I did not find any. Someone with more time could track down the freedom of information act and the organization that supposedly requested the information. FOIA applies to government agencies. Are universities subject to FOIA? I doubt it.

A lot of universities do work for the government, and those records would be subject to FOIA. Also many private organizations follow FOIA guidelines.

[Peter1469]

Right, but I think the story is that old. Just sayin'.

The story is that old. These appear to be new documents from a recent FOIA lawsuit.

[Mark III]

The story is that old. These appear to be new documents from a recent FOIA lawsuit.

The link in the OP (in other words, the story that you are attempting to comment on) is from two years ago. Let's let that sink in for a minute.

[Peter1469]

Dec 11, 2015....

[Mark III]

Dec 11, 2015....

Click on the link in the original post. Inside that story is a link to the source of that article,

Americans For Freedom Of Information (http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/01/11/breaking-obama-college-records-released-financial-aid-as-a-foreigner/)

which takes you to the source for the story. It is dated January 11, 2014


I should have been more clear in my last comment to you.


This is flat out birther bullshit by the way, nothing less.

[Captain Obvious]

Click on the link in the original post. Inside that story is a link to the source of that article,

Americans For Freedom Of Information (http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/01/11/breaking-obama-college-records-released-financial-aid-as-a-foreigner/)

which takes you to the source for the story. It is dated January 11, 2014


I should have been more clear in my last comment to you.


This is flat out birther bullshit by the way, nothing less.

I think the date he quoted was the day your testicles were supposed to descend.

Not yet?

[Mark III]

I think the date he quoted was the day your testicles were supposed to descend.

Not yet?

I know it is disappointing when the facts don't go your way and your friends all look like dopes. Keep your chin up.

[Mark III]

Skimming through the bogus article , I found something interesting. Contemporary references to events that happened in 2009, - Obama's first visit to the UK, Scalia announcing that arguments against Obama's eligibility would be heard in the Supreme court. What I think we have here folks is an article from 2009, which would put it in line with the Snopes debunking of the "foreign student" theory that year.

Bob posted a 6 1/2 year old article as if it was brand new. Yikes.

Keep em comin Bob, blowing shit like yours out of the water is one of my hobbies.

[Mark III]

from the source article for the OP

"Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey..."

"Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. "

[Tahuyaman]

I can't copy from that website either. Basically it says a FOIA law suit has obtained documents that prove that Obama claimed foreign citizenship to get a Fulbright Scholarship to study in the US.

the liberal response..... So what, old news....

[Mark III]

the liberal response..... So what, old news....


It is old fake news. If you are going to have fake news, why not make it something new ?

There are six or seven of you who were willing to believe this fraud just because it said something you wanted to hear. You guys are amateurs.

[zelmo1234]

I don't think that something that was unearthed with a FOIA suit is likely to be fact the request happened over a year ago they have been fighting to get the documents.

It appears that this is a case where liberals lie and cheat and can't be trusted, but that is nothing new.

[Crepitus]

The story Bob posted was Dec 11, 2015.

The original hoax story goes back years. I did find a website that tracked the origins, an email, that has surfaced every few months for years. I have little doubt that someone at the DNC is behind this and other phony news sites. During a disinformation campaign it is important to have plenty of phony stories that appear plausible. That way, when a real story emerges people will tend not to believe it.
That's funny, I imagine some wild haired ultra conservative conspiracy nut huddling over his outdated dell in the basement re-releasing this over and over in the hopes that someday it will be true.

[Mark III]

I don't think that something that was unearthed with a FOIA suit is likely to be fact the request happened over a year ago they have been fighting to get the documents.

It appears that this is a case where liberals lie and cheat and can't be trusted, but that is nothing new.

My opinion is that you are just confused.

[Mark III]

The original hoax story goes back years. I did find a website that tracked the origins, an email, that has surfaced every few months for years. I have little doubt that someone at the DNC is behind this and other phony news sites. During a disinformation campaign it is important to have plenty of phony stories that appear plausible. That way, when a real story emerges people will tend not to believe it.

What it is , is that there are websites that say they are "news sources" when what they really do is regurgitate gossip, unfounded rumor and conspiracy junk , sometimes repackaged like this one, in the hope of finding a new audience which is eager to hear something bad about Obama. Nothing new or interesting about this whatsoever. They are not Democrats, they are con men who know the rwnj base has insatiable appetites.

[Crepitus]

The story Bob posted was Dec 11, 2015.

The original hoax story goes back years. I did find a website that tracked the origins, an email, that has surfaced every few months for years. I have little doubt that someone at the DNC is behind this and other phony news sites. During a disinformation campaign it is important to have plenty of phony stories that appear plausible. That way, when a real story emerges people will tend not to believe it.
The more I think about this post the funnier it gets.

All the conservatives are perfectly willing to believe it, no matter how unlikely it is on the face of it.

But then it turns out to be false so Democrats must have posted it to fool them? Seriously?

I mean LOF'nL!

[Green Arrow]

lol...

[Chris]

As Reagan would say, trust but verify.

[MisterVeritis]

A lot of universities do work for the government, and those records would be subject to FOIA. Also many private organizations follow FOIA guidelines.
Student records would not be subject to a freedom of information act request.

[Bob]

I can't copy from that website either. Basically it says a FOIA law suit has obtained documents that prove that Obama claimed foreign citizenship to get a Fulbright Scholarship to study in the US.

Yes it sure does. Seems once the actual documents are actually available, when Mr. Transparent is not blocking things, we have confirmed who Barry Obama actually is. He related to his name of Soetoro. It is far too late for impeachment in my view.

[Crepitus]

Yes it sure does. Seems once the actual documents are actually available, when Mr. Transparent is not blocking things, we have confirmed who Barry Obama actually is. He related to his name of Soetoro. It is far too late for impeachment in my view.
LOL at bob for still buying it.

[Bob]

Snopes says false: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

From Snopes link above


Barack Obama's student records from Occidental College remain unreleased. He has not chosen to make them public, nor has any court ordered the school to release them.

[Bob]

LOL at bob for still buying it.

Why make this personal?

[birddog]

As Reagan would say, trust but verify.

It's sad that never happened with B. Hussein Obama, and the libtards think's it's great!

[Bob]

The Snopes article is from 2009.

Bob's is from 2 days ago. They are referring to different documents.

What I received seemed up to date and not from 2009.

If he did not take on the identity of his Father, why did he write a book to honor him?

[Bob]

I think O'Reilly sent investigators to Hawaii to check out obama's birth certificate, it is valid and not only that his birth was announced in the local papers.

There has to be the original on file. Barry messed up big time by providing a recent computer version.

I have my birth certificate and it has type print and not computer print.

But the state of CA only supplies me with a later computer printed version.

I needed the B/C at the time I got my Appraisers license and at that moment, Dad still had the original. I got the computer B/C from the county of my birth. Dad died and I then found the original at his home.

Barry could have helped himself a lot by showing his original.

[Bob]

Skimming through the bogus article , I found something interesting. Contemporary references to events that happened in 2009, - Obama's first visit to the UK, Scalia announcing that arguments against Obama's eligibility would be heard in the Supreme court. What I think we have here folks is an article from 2009, which would put it in line with the Snopes debunking of the "foreign student" theory that year.

Bob posted a 6 1/2 year old article as if it was brand new. Yikes.

Keep em comin Bob, blowing shit like yours out of the water is one of my hobbies.

Why keep making your comments so damned personal?

Read my OP. All I did was show it. I don't believe I drew conclusions other than it is bad news for Barry Soetoro.

I was not able to post the article.

[maineman]

What I received seemed up to date and not from 2009.

If he did not take on the identity of his Father, why did he write a book to honor him?
the father he wrote a book about was not named Soetero. That man's last name was Obama. It is the identity he was born with.

[maineman]

Why keep making your comments so damned personal?

Read my OP. All I did was show it. I don't believe I drew conclusions other than it is bad news for Barry Soetoro.

I was not able to post the article.

and when Snopes debunks this current version, will you come back on here and apologize for putting false tripe up here on the board? I think not.

[Bob]

and when Snopes debunks this current version, will you come back on here and apologize for putting false tripe up here on the board? I think not.

I gave you a link. Why would I apologize?

[Bob]

the father he wrote a book about was not named Soetero. That man's last name was Obama. It is the identity he was born with.

He caused his own problems by identifying with his father of Kenya.

[Crepitus]

It's sad that never happened with B. Hussein Obama, and the libtards think's it's great!
And of course Wile E. believes it!

http://images.sequart.org/images/Wile-E.-Coyote.jpg

[Crepitus]

Why make this personal?
Because the desperation shown by some here to pin something, anything, on the president is comical.

[birddog]

I think O'Reilly sent investigators to Hawaii to check out obama's birth certificate, it is valid and not only that his birth was announced in the local papers.


Not true, it was put into the paper days later, and it could have been done by phone. The copy of the BC was an authentic copy of an obvious fraud piece of paper.

Objective document experts never verified the original.

O'Reilly is an idiot much of the time.

[maineman]

public officials from the state of Hawaii have verified the authenticity of the BC.

[Bob]

Because the desperation shown by some here to pin something, anything, on the president is comical.

Obama is nothing more than hired help.

You all launched all out war on GW Bush and I feel therapy happening by pointing out our current dumbsmack president is messing things up.

[birddog]

public officials from the state of Hawaii have verified the authenticity of the BC.

Sure, Ms. Huddy who later died in a mysterious plane crash where no one else in the plane was hurt.:rollseyes:

[maineman]

Sure, Ms. Huddy who later died in a mysterious plane crash where no one else in the plane was hurt.:rollseyes:

does that somehow make her verification inaccurate? If so,how?

[birddog]

does that somehow make her verification inaccurate? If so,how?

It likely does. Besides, she was not a real document authority, she was a bureaucrat.

[Tahuyaman]

Sure, Ms. Huddy who later died in a mysterious plane crash where no one else in the plane was hurt.:rollseyes:

She had high cholesterol and suffered a heart attack maybe?

[Tahuyaman]

Because the desperation shown by some here to pin something, anything, on the president is comical.


Its almost as comical as the left wing partisan hacks blaming everything on Bush for the first five or six years of Obama's presidency. In fact, some still do.

[Tahuyaman]

It's pretty obvious that Obama was born in Hawaii. Besides, even if by some remote chance he wasn't, what can be done about it now? Why worry about things which do not matter at this point or can't be corrected?

[Crepitus]

Its almost as comical as the left wing partisan hacks blaming everything on Bush for the first five or six years of Obama's presidency. In fact, some still do.
Except for the fact the President Bush really did do some (not all) of the things he has been accused of.

[Tahuyaman]

Its almost as comical as the left wing partisan hacks blaming everything on Bush for the first five or six years of Obama's presidency. In fact, some still do.


Except for the fact the President Bush really did do some (not all) of the things he has been accused of.

you're one of those who blames most current failures on Bush.

[maineman]

the financial meltdown and TARP happened on Bush's watch. The invasion, conquest, and occupation of Iraq happened on Bush's watch. Those things have reverberating after effects that don't somehow STOP reverberating when someone new becomes the president. Bush drove the bus off the cliff, and republicans were insisting that Obama somehow defy gravity and levitate the bus back onto the highway. AND.... they threw up legislative roadblocks every step of the way to ENSURE that any attempts at levitation would fail...and they blamed HIM for the failure to levitate.

[Safety]

Birtherism is alive and well.

[Safety]

He caused his own problems by identifying with his father of Kenya.

So, Ted Cruz should have not identified with his father? Oh, wait, no-one is having birtherisms about his legal status, eh?

[Bob]

the financial meltdown and TARP happened on Bush's watch. The invasion, conquest, and occupation of Iraq happened on Bush's watch. Those things have reverberating after effects that don't somehow STOP reverberating when someone new becomes the president. Bush drove the bus off the cliff, and republicans were insisting that Obama somehow defy gravity and levitate the bus back onto the highway. AND.... they threw up legislative roadblocks every step of the way to ENSURE that any attempts at levitation would fail...and they blamed HIM for the failure to levitate.

There is a vast difference in occupying the White House vs causing events to happen. Naming events plus the president does not hint he caused it to happen. Take Obama and Climate change. i realize in his mind, he caused the world to enter a non binding agreement. But did he actually do that? He will claim he did it. But to be kind, he is bsing you if you accept he did it.

So, did Bush cause two wars?

Well, as CIC he did give orders. But we got bombed on 911. Did we get bombed by Afghanistan? Well, not at all. Who was helped to overthrow the Taliban which forced out Al Qaeda? We know, Bush did it. Was it reasonable. Even Obama says it was.

As CIC who issued orders to invade Iraq? Bush of course.

Say, did Clinton play a role? Well sure he played one. He dived in on Saddam by bombing the hell out of him. Passed into law a declaration that Saddam was to be removed. Bush came to office with a law on the books saying Saddam had to be gone.

Presidents can get super lucky to have a good economy or have bad luck and have a bad one.

Bush did not cause any collapse. We must establish that first.

It was not Bush's fault. Bush just happened to be in office.

If you must blame, blame Bush for TARP, but hell, that saved the economy from full collapse. Blame Bush and congress for helping the auto industry.

Blame the Federal reserve for how the economy is improving. They could have screwed us all with high interest rates. We had those during Carter and they killed us. Carter did not kill us, the high interest rates killed us.

We republicans actually come closest to understanding the economy and frankly I knew Obama could not levitate the economy to fix it. But Democrats brag he did just that. :rollseyes:

I enjoy bull shit up to a point.

[Bob]

So, Ted Cruz should have not identified with his father? Oh, wait, no-one is having birtherisms about his legal status, eh?

Democrats have gone after Cruz and Rubio over this.

[Bob]

Except for the fact the President Bush really did do some (not all) of the things he has been accused of.

Read post 76. No point in repeating.

[Chris]

Birtherism is alive and well.

It ought to be aborted or Obama might be the first President impeached while out of office.

Is that even possible?

[Safety]

Democrats have gone after Cruz and Rubio over this.

And the response from the ones who say Obama isn't eligible but Cruz is....?

[Bo-4]

A website with no "about" info?

Cool BoB.. impeach IMMEDIATELY!!

:rofl:

[Safety]

It ought to be aborted or Obama might be the first President impeached while out of office.

Is that even possible?

Abortion, aaaahhhhh!

[Bo-4]

Snopes says false: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

Bob regurgitating another multi-year old and oft-debunked story from 2009?

How entirely unsurprising.

[Bo-4]

the father he wrote a book about was not named Soetero. That man's last name was Obama. It is the identity he was born with.

Well THAT is sure to piss off the Obama Deranged ..

Thanks!

[Bo-4]

Here Bob I have something for you-

NOT fair to talk about Bob, GWB (or his cat) in such a manner ;-)

http://www.partiallyexaminedlife.com/wp-content/uploads/george-in-a-tin-foil-hat.jpg

[maineman]

There is a vast difference in occupying the White House vs causing events to happen. Naming events plus the president does not hint he caused it to happen. Take Obama and Climate change. i realize in his mind, he caused the world to enter a non binding agreement. But did he actually do that? He will claim he did it. But to be kind, he is bsing you if you accept he did it.

So, did Bush cause two wars?

Well, as CIC he did give orders. But we got bombed on 911. Did we get bombed by Afghanistan? Well, not at all. Who was helped to overthrow the Taliban which forced out Al Qaeda? We know, Bush did it. Was it reasonable. Even Obama says it was.

As CIC who issued orders to invade Iraq? Bush of course.

Say, did Clinton play a role? Well sure he played one. He dived in on Saddam by bombing the hell out of him. Passed into law a declaration that Saddam was to be removed. Bush came to office with a law on the books saying Saddam had to be gone.

Presidents can get super lucky to have a good economy or have bad luck and have a bad one.

Bush did not cause any collapse. We must establish that first.

It was not Bush's fault. Bush just happened to be in office.

If you must blame, blame Bush for TARP, but hell, that saved the economy from full collapse. Blame Bush and congress for helping the auto industry.

Blame the Federal reserve for how the economy is improving. They could have screwed us all with high interest rates. We had those during Carter and they killed us. Carter did not kill us, the high interest rates killed us.

We republicans actually come closest to understanding the economy and frankly I knew Obama could not levitate the economy to fix it. But Democrats brag he did just that. :rollseyes:

I enjoy bull shit up to a point.

Iraq was Bush's war. period. He was given the authority by congress to use force as a last resort. Bush was in such a hurry to get his war on that he forced Blix and his inspectors out for Iraq so that he could invade and disarm Saddam.... all on him. Nobody from the legislative branch forced him to invade Iraq.

And if the collapse under Bush is not HIS fault, then you'd agree that the economic performance of the country under Obama is, therefore not HIS fault either?

[Bo-4]

I think O'Reilly sent investigators to Hawaii to check out obama's birth certificate, it is valid and not only that his birth was announced in the local papers.

Matty, clueless but interestingly adept in a bizarre manner of some sort.

Twas TRUMP who claimed to have sent gumshoes to Hawaii.

What they found was unbelievably HUUUGE..

But we're still waiting on that.

[Bo-4]

It ought to be aborted or Obama might be the first President impeached while out of office.

Is that even possible?

Don't count that out Chris .. might happen!! :cool:

[Bob]

Bob regurgitating another multi-year old and oft-debunked story from 2009?

How entirely unsurprising.

Bob's main report is not that Barry was born here or elsewhere.

My major theme is take responsibility for this Birther issue, your Democrats that worked for Hillary started this.

OWN it. Bo-4

By - The Washington Times - Thursday, August 28, 2008
Pennsylvania’s former deputy attorney general and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (http://www.washingtontimes.com/themes/?Theme=Hillary+Clinton) supporter Philip J. Berg (http://www.washingtontimes.com/themes/?Theme=Philip+Berg) has filed a lawsuit in federal court in Pennsylvania accusing presumptive Democratic presidential candidateSen. Barack Obama (http://www.washingtontimes.com/themes/?Theme=Barack+Obama) of lying about his U.S. citizenship, which would make him ineligible to be president.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/28/lawsuit-questions-obamas-eligibility-for-office/?page=all

[Bob]

Iraq was Bush's war. period. He was given the authority by congress to use force as a last resort. Bush was in such a hurry to get his war on that he forced Blix and his inspectors out for Iraq so that he could invade and disarm Saddam.... all on him. Nobody from the legislative branch forced him to invade Iraq.

And if the collapse under Bush is not HIS fault, then you'd agree that the economic performance of the country under Obama is, therefore not HIS fault either?

As a what? LMAO The same lawmakers who shoved for the Clinton law in 1998 were so eager to get rid of Saddam it is a wonder Clinton did not get the job done.

I agree that Bush got the job done by our military experts and done super fast. I am amazed at the excellent job done by General Franks and his group of officer leaders.

Bush gave Saddam so many chances it is a wonder he waited so long. Daddy Bush also approved the invasion.

While the freedom for the Iraqis was on Bush's mind, so was ending a decades old problem over Saddam.

Bush also freed the Iraqis of those dreaded sanctions.

There is no if that the collapse was not caused by Bush. I should have included how Bush told and told the Democrats in congress of the impending problem and they, not Bush decided to not stop the crash.
Obama has nothing at all to do with the economy. You never heard me blaming the man.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/10/20081009-10.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

[Bob]

And the response from the ones who say Obama isn't eligible but Cruz is....?

I have no reply

[Crepitus]

you're one of those who blames most current failures on Bush.

Nope. Feel free to search, you will not find one single instance of that from me.

[Safety]

I have no reply

Thanks for playing.

[Mark III]

Not true, it was put into the paper days later, and it could have been done by phone. The copy of the BC was an authentic copy of an obvious fraud piece of paper.

Objective document experts never verified the original.

O'Reilly is an idiot much of the time.


The head of the Hawaii State Dept. of Health, a Republican , verified that she had personally seen Barack Obama's original birth certificate, in a black binder , in a room with thousands of other Hawaii original birth certificates. I believe that was in 2008, over 7 years ago.

You simply do not know what you are talking about. But you're a birther rwnj, so why would you ?

[Mark III]

Sure, Ms. Huddy who later died in a mysterious plane crash where no one else in the plane was hurt.:rollseyes:

Bird Dog, you are an amateur and an incompetent in discussing such things. Do yourself a favor and sit down and be quiet.

"The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.

"It’s kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.

Fukino, sounding both exasperated and amused, spoke to a reporter in the aftermath of Donald Trump's statements on the NBC Today show last week (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42469703/ns/today-today_news/t/trump-i-have-real-doubts-obama-was-born-us/)questioning whether Obama has a legitimate birth certificate.

Trump, who says he is considering a run for president, repeated his claims on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday, saying that "nobody has any information" about the president's birth and that "if he wasn't born in this country, he shouldn't be president of the United States."

No matter what state officials release on the issue, the "birthers" are going to question it, said Fukino. "They’re going to question the ink on which it was written or say it was fabricated," said Fukino. "The whole thing is silly."

As the top Hawaiian official in charge of state health records in 2008, when the issue of Obama's birth first arose, Fukino said she thought she had put the matter to rest. Contacted by NBC, Fukino expanded on previous public statements and made two key points when asked about Trump's recent comments.


The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time.

"It is real, and no amount of saying it is not, is going to change that," Fukino said. Moreover, she added, her boss at the time, Lingle — who was backing John McCain for president — would presumably have to be in on any cover up since Fukino made her public comment at the governor's office's request. "Why would a Republican governor — who was stumping for the other guy — hold out on a big secret?" she asked."

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42519951/ns/politics-more_politics/t/ex-hawaii-official-denounces-ludicrous-birther-claims/#.Vm9ttdIrI1k

[Safety]

Not true, it was put into the paper days later, and it could have been done by phone. The copy of the BC was an authentic copy of an obvious fraud piece of paper.

Objective document experts never verified the original.

O'Reilly is an idiot much of the time.

....because when he was born, there was a conspiracy concocted that 40 years later he would be anointed as president? To what end? Just add this as another thing Obama has failed, in achieving the New World Order....

[ThaiBoxer]

http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/obamas-college-records-are-finally-released-what-they-say-could-get-him-impeached/

I tried and tried to copy part of it. Any experts help will be appreciated.

Barry's College records came out from the looks of it and his student declarations confirms comments made when he first was elected.

This will certainly hurt his reelection prospects.

[Bob]

....because when he was born, there was a conspiracy concocted that 40 years later he would be anointed as president? To what end? Just add this as another thing Obama has failed, in achieving the New World Order....

Again, since I have one of the old birth certificates, mine is typed out. Obama's proof was a computer driven one.

Maybe you are so young yours is also computer generated, but for those of us older than born in 1985, they typed them out. Seems so easy for Obama to have produced by telling them in Hawaii what he needed.

[Mark III]

Again, since I have one of the old birth certificates, mine is typed out. Obama's proof was a computer driven one.

Maybe you are so young yours is also computer generated, but for those of us older than born in 1985, they typed them out. Seems so easy for Obama to have produced by telling them in Hawaii what he needed.


As I said, in 2008 when the birther movement was getting going, the Director of the Hawaii State Dept. of Health was asked by the office of the governor of Hawaii to look for Obama's birth certificate in the archives. She FOUND IT Bob, and reported to the governor and the media that the orginal birth certificate for Barack Obama was in the state archives where it belonged.

Case closed.

Well except for the succeeding 7 years of insanity brought to us by people like ... you.

[Bob]

As I said, in 2008 when the birther movement was getting going, the Director of the Hawaii State Dept. of Health was asked by the office of the governor of Hawaii to look for Obama's birth certificate in the archives. She FOUND IT Bob, and reported to the governor and the media that the orginal birth certificate for Barack Obama was in the state archives where it belonged.

Case closed.

Well except for the succeeding 7 years of insanity brought to us by people like ... you.

Suppose the Democrats had not started the Birther movement including Suing Obama?

Don't you wish the Democrat had never done that?

By the way, given the modern machine called the copy machine and the fax system, don't you think she would have helped Obama a hell of a lot by producing a copy of his original?

[Mark III]

Suppose the Democrats had not started the Birther movement including Suing Obama?

Don't you wish the Democrat had never done that?

By the way, given the modern machine called the copy machine and the fax system, don't you think she would have helped Obama a hell of a lot by producing a copy of his original?

By law, she was not allowed to copy his birth certificate.

Why don't you just face the fact that the seven years you spent as a birther have been a complete waste of time and get on to something more meaningful?

[Safety]

By law, she was not allowed to copy his birth certificate.

Why don't you just face the fact that the seven years you spent as a birther have been a complete waste of time and get on to something more meaningful?

On the contrary, it has given rational people an insight into the level of irrationality a large segment of the population holds dear.

[Mister D]

On the contrary, it has given rational people an insight into the level of irrationality a large segment of the population holds dear.

Irrationality has been the story here today. Good God...

[Bo-4]

Bob's main report is not that Barry was born here or elsewhere.

My major theme is take responsibility for this Birther issue, your Democrats that worked for Hillary started this.

OWN it. @Bo-4 (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1297)

By - The Washington Times - Thursday, August 28, 2008
Pennsylvania’s former deputy attorney general and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (http://www.washingtontimes.com/themes/?Theme=Hillary+Clinton) supporter Philip J. Berg (http://www.washingtontimes.com/themes/?Theme=Philip+Berg) has filed a lawsuit in federal court in Pennsylvania accusing presumptive Democratic presidential candidateSen. Barack Obama (http://www.washingtontimes.com/themes/?Theme=Barack+Obama) of lying about his U.S. citizenship, which would make him ineligible to be president.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/28/lawsuit-questions-obamas-eligibility-for-office/?page=all

He was a Hillary supporter and 9/11 Truther. He did NOT work for Hillary Clinton and donated all of $200 to her campaign.

Get your facts straight @Bob (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1013) and start OWNING the Birther thing which was charged by RW nut jobs like Trump, Shuriff Joe, Alex Jones and Joe Farah.

:D

===

Mrs. Clinton, for her part, encouraged her supporters this week to back Mr. Obama.

“Whether you voted for me, or voted for Barack, the time is now to unite as a single party with a single purpose. We are on the same team, and none of us can sit on the sidelines,” she said during her address to the convention Tuesday.


Mr. Berg, who says he donated about $200 to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, may represent the fringe of the pro-Hillary faction that hasn’t warmed to Mr. Obama.

He has filed suits for clients against President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, claiming they knew about the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks before they happened.

[Chris]

He was a Hillary supporter and 9/11 Truther. He did NOT work for Hillary Clinton and donated all of $200 to her campaign.

Get your facts straight @Bob (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1013) and start OWNING the Birther thing which was charged by RW nut jobs like Trump, Shuriff Joe, Alex Jones and Joe Farah.

:D

===

Mrs. Clinton, for her part, encouraged her supporters this week to back Mr. Obama.

“Whether you voted for me, or voted for Barack, the time is now to unite as a single party with a single purpose. We are on the same team, and none of us can sit on the sidelines,” she said during her address to the convention Tuesday.


Mr. Berg, who says he donated about $200 to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, may represent the fringe of the pro-Hillary faction that hasn’t warmed to Mr. Obama.

He has filed suits for clients against President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, claiming they knew about the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks before they happened.


He was a Hillary supporter....

Haven't you and others posted recently about judging Trump by some of his supporters?

[Bo-4]

Haven't you and others posted recently about judging Trump by some of his supporters?

Only the ones he hasn't denounced like oh, let's see ... the preacher who wants to toss gays over cliffs or stone them to death?

Trump has been all over those as many of those guys as he can get!

And again Chris, at the time Mr. Berg was playing Birther, Hillary was encouraging her supporters to vote for Obama.

The meme that Hillary started the Birther crap was disproven in 2008.

[Chris]

Only the ones he hasn't denounced like oh, let's see ... the preacher who wants to toss gays over cliffs or stone them to death?

Trump has been all over those as many of those guys as he can get!

And again Chris, at the time Mr. Berg was playing Birther, Hillary was encouraging her supporters to vote for Obama.

The meme that Hillary started the Birther crap was disproven in 2008.

Did Hillary denounce her supporters?

[Bo-4]

Did Hillary denounce her supporters?

She needs to denounce every nobody who donates a couple hundred bucks and then says or does something stupid?

No of course not, and especially when she's out there telling her people to vote for Obama.

[Chris]

She needs to denounce every nobody who donates a couple hundred bucks and then says or does something stupid?

No of course not, and especially when she's out there telling her people to vote for Obama.

Ah, but Trump does? Got it. Depends whose gore is oxed.

[Bo-4]

Ah, but Trump does? Got it. Depends whose gore is oxed.

Chris, you need to understand the difference between seeking and advertising a loon endorsement vs an unacknowledged loon endorsement.

Here's an example of the former:

https://www.tedcruz.org/news/troy-newman-activist-behind-planned-parenthood-videos-endorses-ted-cruz/

FYI - Troy Newman has long suggested that killing abortion doctors is justifiable homicide.

[birddog]

Obama is lying, phony crud, and you people who voted for him still owe the rest of us an apology!

[Bo-4]

Obama is lying, phony crud, and you people who voted for him still owe the rest of us an apology!

We can always count on Birdie for pithy commentary!

:rolleyes:

[Chris]

Chris, you need to understand the difference between seeking and advertising a loon endorsement vs an unacknowledged loon endorsement.

Here's an example of the former:

https://www.tedcruz.org/news/troy-newman-activist-behind-planned-parenthood-videos-endorses-ted-cruz/

FYI - Troy Newman has long suggested that killing abortion doctors is justifiable homicide.


No, you need to understand how you castigate Trump but give Hillary a pass for the same thing.

Abortion!

[Bo-4]

No, you need to understand how you castigate Trump but give Hillary a pass for the same thing.

Abortion!

Sorry, but it ain't the same thing and ya know it.

To his credit, at least Trump didn't accept or advertise hit looniest endorsements from skinheads and grand wizards.

But he's mighty proud of this crowd!

Duckboy Willy Robertson
Ted Nugent
Gary Busey
Alex Jones
Dennis Rodman
Mike Tyson

Motley crew eh? :)

[Chris]

Sorry, but it ain't the same thing and ya know it.

To his credit, at least Trump didn't accept or advertise hit looniest endorsements from skinheads and grand wizards.

But he's mighty proud of this crowd!

Duckboy Willy Robertson
Ted Nugent
Gary Busey
Alex Jones
Dennis Rodman
Mike Tyson

Motley crew eh? :)



No, it's NOT the same thing, bo, the way you play it. Hillary's supporter did something but it's not her responsibility. Trump's supporter did something but it's his responsibility. Hypocrisy.

[MisterVeritis]

Sorry, but it ain't the same thing and ya know it.

To his credit, at least Trump didn't accept or advertise hit looniest endorsements from skinheads and grand wizards.

But he's mighty proud of this crowd!

Duckboy Willy Robertson
Ted Nugent
Gary Busey
Alex Jones
Dennis Rodman
Mike Tyson

Motley crew eh? :)
Big tent.

[Bo-4]

Big tent.

LoL .. yeah, i'll avoid that tent if ya don't mind ;-)

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/64144135.jpg

[MisterVeritis]

LoL .. yeah, i'll avoid that tent if ya don't mind ;-)


I am not surprised.

[Bob]

By law, she was not allowed to copy his birth certificate.

Why don't you just face the fact that the seven years you spent as a birther have been a complete waste of time and get on to something more meaningful?

That is not true; she could have copied it for the POTUS.

I am not a birther. I told you, Philip Berg, a Democrat lawyer is the birther and he sued Obama. Bet that bites, eh?

[Bob]

He was a Hillary supporter and 9/11 Truther. He did NOT work for Hillary Clinton and donated all of $200 to her campaign.

Get your facts straight @Bob (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1013) and start OWNING the Birther thing which was charged by RW nut jobs like Trump, Shuriff Joe, Alex Jones and Joe Farah.

:D

===

Mrs. Clinton, for her part, encouraged her supporters this week to back Mr. Obama.

“Whether you voted for me, or voted for Barack, the time is now to unite as a single party with a single purpose. We are on the same team, and none of us can sit on the sidelines,” she said during her address to the convention Tuesday.


Mr. Berg, who says he donated about $200 to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, may represent the fringe of the pro-Hillary faction that hasn’t warmed to Mr. Obama.

He has filed suits for clients against President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, claiming they knew about the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks before they happened.

Are you kidding that he did not do work for Hillary? He tried to shoot down her opponent and paid money for the legal process.

When a republican goes after him over the birth issue, you go wild. But you seem not concerned when you learn it was your own Democrats suing Obama over the issue.

But we expect this from Democrats. Double standards and all.

[Bo-4]

Are you kidding that he did not do work for Hillary? He tried to shoot down her opponent and paid money for the legal process.

When a republican goes after him over the birth issue, you go wild. But you seem not concerned when you learn it was your own Democrats suing Obama over the issue.

But we expect this from Democrats. Double standards and all.
Bob, if you can't prove that he was a paid operative for Hillary's campaign then STFU.

He was a supporter who'd kicked in 200 bucks to her campaign and that is IT.

So cut it with the meme that Hillary's campaign started the Birther nonsense -- because it's debunked BS.

PROOF:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

[Bob]

@Bob (http://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1013), if you can't prove that he was a paid operative for Hillary's campaign then STFU.

He was a supporter who'd kicked in 200 bucks to her campaign and that is IT.

So cut it with the meme that Hillary's campaign started the Birther nonsense -- because it's debunked BS.

PROOF:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

You are such a fan of the black messiah you can't stand knowing it was a Democrat trying to shoot him down.

I for one am pleased to tell you to blame Democrats for the "problem."

[silvereyes]

There is plenty of time. Impeachment can be handled in a few weeks. There are many reasons to impeach the son/daughter of a bitch in the White House.

The bigger issue concerns the phony news sites that have cropped up. I tried to confirm this story by searching for other similar stories. I did not find any. Someone with more time could track down the freedom of information act and the organization that supposedly requested the information. FOIA applies to government agencies. Are universities subject to FOIA? I doubt it.
What. The. Hell. Is. Wrong. With. You?

[MisterVeritis]

What. The. Hell. Is. Wrong. With. You?
What.Do.You.Object.To?

[Bo-4]

You are such a fan of the black messiah you can't stand knowing it was a Democrat trying to shoot him down.

I for one am pleased to tell you to blame Democrats for the "problem."

Someone can present you with FACTS and you dissemble, dodge and declare victory.

Sadly, once again you have NOTHING and your premise was a bald-faced lie.

Carry on

[Bob]

Someone can present you with FACTS and you dissemble, dodge and declare victory.

Sadly, once again you have NOTHING and your premise was a bald-faced lie.

Carry on

I am rubber and you are glue.

[Bo-4]

I am rubber and you are glue.

Dude, just skedaddle before you further embarrass yourself.

Law of Holes :)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HkMRHah_E2U/TwMulca_DbI/AAAAAAAAVzw/wGAh6jAAcUA/s1600/Accidents+funny+pictures+%28204%29.jpg