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Cigar
09-05-2012, 06:52 AM
LINDSTROM, Minn. — Ki Gulbranson owns a logo apparel shop, deals in jewelry on the side and referees youth soccer games. He makes about $39,000 a year and wants you to know that he does not need any help from the federal government.

He says that too many Americans lean on taxpayers rather than living within their means. He supports politicians who promise to cut government spending. In 2010, he printed T-shirts for the Tea Party (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/t/tea_party_movement/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) campaign of a neighbor, Chip Cravaack, who ousted this region’s long-serving Democratic congressman.

Yet this year, as in each of the past three years, Mr. Gulbranson, 57, is counting on a payment of several thousand dollars from the federal government, a subsidy for working families called the earned-income tax credit. He has signed up his three school-age children to eat free breakfast and lunch at federal expense. And Medicare (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/medicare/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) paid for his mother, 88, to have hip surgery twice.
There is little poverty here in Chisago County, northeast of Minneapolis, where cheap housing for commuters is gradually replacing farmland. But Mr. Gulbranson and many other residents who describe themselves as self-sufficient members of the American middle class and as opponents of government largess are drawing more deeply on that government with each passing year.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us/even-critics-of-safety-net-increasingly-depend-on-it.html?_r=2

Older people get most of the benefits, primarily through Social Security (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/social_security_us/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) and Medicare, but aid for the rest of the population has increased about as quickly through programs for the disabled, the unemployed, veterans and children.

The government safety net was created to keep Americans from abject poverty, but the poorest households no longer receive a majority of government benefits. A secondary mission has gradually become primary: maintaining the middle class from childhood through retirement. The share of benefits flowing to the least affluent households, the bottom fifth, has declined from 54 percent in 1979 to 36 percent in 2007, according to a Congressional Budget Office analysis published last year.

Really good interactive map:http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/12/us/entitlement-map.html?ref=us

Irishman
09-05-2012, 07:02 AM
Sad that such a man is forced to use government assistance. I wish there were more people like him who really understood the fact that the assistance offered is short term and meant to help people when they really need it, not be their sole means of survival.

patrickt
09-05-2012, 07:11 AM
No one quibbles with a "safety net". Living on welfare forever isn't a safety net but it is a goal of the socialists. A lifetime on the dole is considered by the left as an entitlement, a human right.

I wonder if the DNCs media outlet, the NYT, would be interested in an article on the millions of fraudulent Earned Income Tax Credit recipients. How about people residing in prison drawing the credits? How about foreign nationals in the U.S. without permission who are guided through the process by Democrats? I wonder if dead people can draw the credits if they vote for President Obama again? Oh, silly me. Why would the NYT or their parent, the DNC, be interested in that.

The earned income tax credit is not remotely a "safety net". It is simply remedial action to try and lessen the impact of the beloved SS tax--aren't they all, though--of the liberals.

Cigar fails again.

Mainecoons
09-05-2012, 07:13 AM
How many people would need this help if runaway government wasn't lowering the standard of living for everyone?

Besides, next to you Cigar, your example is a real piker when it comes to living off government and favoritism. :grin:

Chris
09-05-2012, 07:27 AM
No one quibbles with a "safety net". Living on welfare forever isn't a safety net but it is a goal of the socialists. A lifetime on the dole is considered by the left as an entitlement, a human right.

I wonder if the DNCs media outlet, the NYT, would be interested in an article on the millions of fraudulent Earned Income Tax Credit recipients. How about people residing in prison drawing the credits? How about foreign nationals in the U.S. without permission who are guided through the process by Democrats? I wonder if dead people can draw the credits if they vote for President Obama again? Oh, silly me. Why would the NYT or their parent, the DNC, be interested in that.

The earned income tax credit is not remotely a "safety net". It is simply remedial action to try and lessen the impact of the beloved SS tax--aren't they all, though--of the liberals.

Cigar fails again.

Exactly. Cigar is getting desperate with his gotchas.

DonGlock26
09-05-2012, 07:27 AM
LINDSTROM, Minn. — Ki Gulbranson owns a logo apparel shop, deals in jewelry on the side and referees youth soccer games. He makes about $39,000 a year and wants you to know that he does not need any help from the federal government.

He says that too many Americans lean on taxpayers rather than living within their means. He supports politicians who promise to cut government spending. In 2010, he printed T-shirts for the Tea Party (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/t/tea_party_movement/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) campaign of a neighbor, Chip Cravaack, who ousted this region’s long-serving Democratic congressman.

Yet this year, as in each of the past three years, Mr. Gulbranson, 57, is counting on a payment of several thousand dollars from the federal government, a subsidy for working families called the earned-income tax credit. He has signed up his three school-age children to eat free breakfast and lunch at federal expense. And Medicare (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/medicare/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) paid for his mother, 88, to have hip surgery twice.
There is little poverty here in Chisago County, northeast of Minneapolis, where cheap housing for commuters is gradually replacing farmland. But Mr. Gulbranson and many other residents who describe themselves as self-sufficient members of the American middle class and as opponents of government largess are drawing more deeply on that government with each passing year.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/us/even-critics-of-safety-net-increasingly-depend-on-it.html?_r=2

Older people get most of the benefits, primarily through Social Security (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/social_security_us/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) and Medicare, but aid for the rest of the population has increased about as quickly through programs for the disabled, the unemployed, veterans and children.

The government safety net was created to keep Americans from abject poverty, but the poorest households no longer receive a majority of government benefits. A secondary mission has gradually become primary: maintaining the middle class from childhood through retirement. The share of benefits flowing to the least affluent households, the bottom fifth, has declined from 54 percent in 1979 to 36 percent in 2007, according to a Congressional Budget Office analysis published last year.

Really good interactive map:http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/02/12/us/entitlement-map.html?ref=us


This was the plan wasn't it? What else could be the result of sending the American manufacturing base to China?

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Irishman
09-05-2012, 07:29 AM
No one quibbles with a "safety net". Living on welfare forever isn't a safety net but it is a goal of the socialists. A lifetime on the dole is considered by the left as an entitlement, a human right.

I wonder if the DNCs media outlet, the NYT, would be interested in an article on the millions of fraudulent Earned Income Tax Credit recipients. How about people residing in prison drawing the credits? How about foreign nationals in the U.S. without permission who are guided through the process by Democrats? I wonder if dead people can draw the credits if they vote for President Obama again? Oh, silly me. Why would the NYT or their parent, the DNC, be interested in that.

The earned income tax credit is not remotely a "safety net". It is simply remedial action to try and lessen the impact of the beloved SS tax--aren't they all, though--of the liberals.

Cigar fails again.

It is a government run program after all, would you expect any less?