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Bo-4
01-18-2016, 01:02 PM
Not the first nutty Teahadist to invoke such revisionist history however. ;-)

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/18/3740392/ted-cruz-you-are-no-jack-kennedy/

Adelaide
01-18-2016, 02:01 PM
Seems... wrong.

birddog
01-18-2016, 02:20 PM
JFK would certainly be a Republican today, not sure if he would be a "Cruz Republican." That would be giving JFK more credit than he would likely deserve.

Cigar
01-18-2016, 02:24 PM
RNC Chair Refuses to Say Whether Ted Cruz is Eligible to be PresidentIn an interview with TIME magazine, Republican National Chairman Reince Priebus refused to say whether or not he thought Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz was eligible to be president.

“A topic in the news today: Ted Cruz was born in Canada,” TIME asked. “Is he constitutionally eligible to be President?”

But Priebus shot down the question. “Listen, I don’t get involved,” he said.

“I’m not going to get in the middle of all these candidate issues. It’s a bad place for me to be,” he added. “I’ll let all these folks argue about this stuff, and I’m going to stay out of it.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rnc-chair-refuses-to-say-whether-ted-cruz-is-eligible-to-be-president/


Ah, the sweet smell of schadenfreude! http://www.democraticunderground.com/emoticons/chuckle.gif

Tahuyaman
01-18-2016, 02:24 PM
Calgary Ted says JFK would be a "Cruz Republican" today
JFK's ideas on taxation and economic policy is very much in opposition to today's Democrat party leaders.

texan
01-18-2016, 03:53 PM
Not the first nutty Teahadist to invoke such revisionist history however. ;-)

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/01/18/3740392/ted-cruz-you-are-no-jack-kennedy/


Don't know about Cruz but his policies are definitely republican.

TrueBlue
01-18-2016, 06:26 PM
Time to put Cruz on "Cruz Control". JFK was not anywhere near Cruz with his goals and objectives. He was a Democrat, Ted, not a Republican. He would never be a Republican, fyi.

Matty
01-18-2016, 06:29 PM
Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.



JFK was the absolute last Good democrat.

TrueBlue
01-18-2016, 06:46 PM
Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.



JFK was the absolute last Good democrat.
Undoubtedly, JFK was a most wonderful President loved by ALL! However, we have had others who were also quite wonderful including Presidents Johnson, Clinton and Obama, let's not forget.

Matty
01-18-2016, 06:51 PM
Undoubtedly, JFK was a most wonderful President loved by ALL! However, we have had others who were also quite wonderful including Presidents Johnson, Clinton and Obama, let's not forget.



Obama. The worst ever!

texan
01-18-2016, 09:02 PM
Undoubtedly, JFK was a most wonderful President loved by ALL! However, we have had others who were also quite wonderful including Presidents Johnson, Clinton and Obama, let's not forget.



You our live in fantasy land with your same sex lover. Johnson was not so nice and Clinton was a sexual predator like Bill Cosby. You obviously have no clue what JFK stood for so don't talk for the rest of this ride and at least look smart.

texan
01-18-2016, 09:03 PM
Ohhhhh Exotix will call me joyless for this!

Tahuyaman
01-18-2016, 10:49 PM
JFK would certainly be a Republican today, not sure if he would be a "Cruz Republican." That would be giving JFK more credit than he would likely deserve.


It is true that JFK's economic ideas were quite similar to today's conservatives, but he was a Democrat. Chances are he would have changed his views along with the party over time, then denied his past. Rarely do you see a Democrat remain loyal to his ideals. They usually flip and flop right along with the current party line.

iustitia
01-18-2016, 11:18 PM
Kennedy had some good qualities, but in general he was a walking venereal disease and an irresponsible president. This is a man that risked nuclear war just so he could look tough for the press.

TrueBlue
01-18-2016, 11:26 PM
You our live in fantasy land with your same sex lover. Johnson was not so nice and Clinton was a sexual predator like Bill Cosby. You obviously have no clue what JFK stood for so don't talk for the rest of this ride and at least look smart.
Oh goodness! I can just see those piercing Green Eyes of yours that are filled with jealousy and hate because President Clinton left us in the black and with a tremendous amount of jobs and President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Now how does that compare with your Republican President Nixon? http://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/ahswen/80.gifhttp://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/ahswen/88.gif

iustitia
01-18-2016, 11:31 PM
What exactly did President Clinton do to create jobs exactly?

birddog
01-18-2016, 11:45 PM
Oh goodness! I can just see those piercing Green Eyes of yours that are filled with jealousy and hate because President Clinton left us in the black and with a tremendous amount of jobs and President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Now how does that compare with your Republican President Nixon? http://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/ahswen/80.gifhttp://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/ahswen/88.gif

Pardon me while I throw up! Lies do that to me.:rollseyes:

texan
01-19-2016, 12:08 AM
Oh goodness! I can just see those piercing Green Eyes of yours that are filled with jealousy and hate because President Clinton left us in the black and with a tremendous amount of jobs and President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Now how does that compare with your Republican President Nixon? http://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/ahswen/80.gifhttp://smiley.nowdararpour.ir/ahswen/88.gif

You are a little light on you ur history and that explains you u comments on the here and now sweetheart. You might want to read up on Nixon and China. He also may have ended a war that your beloved JFK and LBJ got us into called Vietnam. Thanks for playing.

The civil rights bill? Seriously you want to debate that one?

80% of republicans voted yes to about 65% of dems. In fact republicans broke up the dem filibuster to get it passed. You want to discuss Lincoln now?

Oops!

You Might want to review how LBJ did not cooperate with MLK and basically allowed the brutal beatings like at Selma.

You really don't know much about our history do you? Might want to check on who ran the KKK.

iustitia
01-19-2016, 12:16 AM
Nothing quite like debates over which party is/was more racist.

texan
01-19-2016, 09:16 AM
Sorry for pointing it out but someone needed a history lesson tied to facts and not from some looney left website you see people use here for facts.

One of the few things I can say I made up once again in play:

"The world didn't start when you started paying attention."

Texan

Bo-4
01-19-2016, 09:27 AM
RNC Chair Refuses to Say Whether Ted Cruz is Eligible to be President

In an interview with TIME magazine, Republican National Chairman Reince Priebus refused to say whether or not he thought Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz was eligible to be president.

“A topic in the news today: Ted Cruz was born in Canada,” TIME asked. “Is he constitutionally eligible to be President?”

But Priebus shot down the question. “Listen, I don’t get involved,” he said.

“I’m not going to get in the middle of all these candidate issues. It’s a bad place for me to be,” he added. “I’ll let all these folks argue about this stuff, and I’m going to stay out of it.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/rnc-chair-refuses-to-say-whether-ted-cruz-is-eligible-to-be-president/

Ah, the sweet smell of schadenfreude!

Lol, Rice Pilaf is a funny dude - he knows that neither Ted nor Donald can win a national election.

Sooo, he'll stay out of defending either. http://www.democraticunderground.com/emoticons/chuckle.gif

Bo-4
01-19-2016, 09:30 AM
What exactly did President Clinton do to create jobs exactly?

Clinton was a supply-sider and distinctly moderate - barely left of center.

Safety
01-19-2016, 09:31 AM
You are a little light on you ur history and that explains you u comments on the here and now sweetheart. You might want to read up on Nixon and China. He also may have ended a war that your beloved JFK and LBJ got us into called Vietnam. Thanks for playing.

The civil rights bill? Seriously you want to debate that one?

80% of republicans voted yes to about 65% of dems. In fact republicans broke up the dem filibuster to get it passed. You want to discuss Lincoln now?

Oops!

You Might want to review how LBJ did not cooperate with MLK and basically allowed the brutal beatings like at Selma.

You really don't know much about our history do you? Might want to check on who ran the KKK.

Ah yes, here we go again...

Speaking of Democrats vs Republicans, yes the label would indicate that the Republicans have some catching up to the Dems in regards to racial bias and such. However, being intelligent beings, it's not really that hard to take a look past the surface and see the underlying substrate to what happened in the past. Now, there was an awesome thread recently about why the civil war was fought, and although the meme of the day is to allude that the North didn't go to war to "free the slaves", they also did not write letters explaining their reason on leaving the union because negroes were getting legal status. Now, put in perspective the division between the North/South of that time, and add the vote breakdown between parties in reference to the Civil Rights Act, we are able to determine that there is a correlation between the ideology of the South and today's Conservative.

See below a post I made long ago...


Below is the vote breakdown of the CRA by demographic region. If you read the "note" you will see how the members of congress from the respective "southern" states voted vs the "northern" states. Please, please, try and tell me that those guys in the south that were in the democratic party that voted "no" are the same guys that would have voted for someone like Obama.


Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

So, when you take into account the vote based upon "north/south" there is a glaring similarity to today's "liberal/conservative" breakdown, not just in posts we see here on a daily basis (which would be the best indicator), but in general statements about minorities (Trump?).